Ruins of Old Paineel (The Hole)

well i know yesterday, me(61 druid), 65(druid), 65(pally), and 65(rogue) went through killing in this zone. Not that bad as long as you dont get too many adds. we did end up dying, due do too many adds at one time. but we took out the enchanter epic mob, we stopped after we died and rogue pulled our corpses back to zi and pally rezed us. but we are planning on going back and going after bigger mobs.

also The crazed guy was on my track the whole time too, and we were trying to work our way too him when slipped up and got adds.

Just wondering about this guy if anyone knows.

With all of the talk about how much harder the epic raid zones are now, I wanted to let everyone know that a typical 3 group raid with an average level of 51 CAN still successfully raid the Hole and kill Jaeil the Insane for the Ranger epic drop.

On Tues 10/14/03 the Union of Heroes Alliance on the Seventh Hammer successfully raided the "new" Ruines of Old Paineel and secured for Danian Trackmore his Soulbound Hammer.

The raiding party had an average level of 51, ranging from a high of 62 to a low of 43 (two of our three clerics btw). Our main tank was a 51 Warrior. In addition to these 4 had a couple of shammans and druids, one of each int class except enchanter, with the rest of the party consisting of various melees (War, Mnk, SK, Rng).

We killed a total of 77 Mobs including various Elementals, Spirits, Ratmen, Gargoyles, Constructs and of course Jaeil the Insane. We suffered a total of four deaths in our party; one to a construct that poped literaly right on top of our middle cleric, one to a gargoyle, and two to a construct that poped during the Jaeil fight. The entire raid from zone in to port out took about 2 1/2 hours but we wasted about 1/2 hour at the begining when we started in the wrong way (we crossed the first bridge into the castle instead of going down and left to the castle courtyard.)

I hope this gives all of you the confidence to know that you can still do your epic quests dispite the "new" revamped zones. It does take a good raiding party with people that know what they are doing. But you don't need 30 level 65 characters. You can do it with a standard 3 group raid of low 50s.

Thank you,
Danian Trackmore
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=629111
Level 46 Half-Elf Ranger of Karana

Event Coordinator for The Order of Loki
http://www.theorderofloki.org

Proud member of the Union of Heroes Alliance
http://pub128.ezboard.com/bunionofheroes

Resident of the Seventh Hammer
http://pub148.ezboard.com/b7thhammer


Edited, Fri Oct 17 17:44:57 2003

This Mob Was on my track last we raided Hole, October 4, 2003 Tzitzi the Cursed ... never got to see em, but was on track next to high scale kirn

Hi all,

Is the ratmen guard a roamer now because i see alot of ratmen inhabitants wandering around. Someone mentioned inhabitants were place holders for him so does that mean just kill them and he will pop as wanderer? Ive been looking for the bugger forever and no luck.

Thanks

Steel

Does Slizik the Mighty still pop? I haven't seen any ratmen in the revamped hole.

Thanks,
Menlaan

There is a small section with low level undeads called "a citybound spirit". Decent drop rate of the old Withered leather stuff; 1-2 pieces per clearing of the small area (a total of 11 ghosts). Their area is located in the 1st building, through the grate underwater, which is now unlocked. Cleared these 4 times so far looking for Kindle but no luck thus far.

We took a couple groups down simply to see what changes there had been here...

Basically The Hole is now filled with a bunch of cool-looking steel golems (constructs) and there's a new big steel guy down at the bottom (lvl 70)...we only had 10 people by the time we got down to him, so we didn't engage :)

We will be going back though :)

Nice how they are making the epic quests harder, but not making them any better.... heck, it's hard enough to get that stupid emeral in hate.. glad I already have my swifty.. I dunno if i would have the heart to do it if both Com and Hole are any tougher than they were for me and my guild when we were all in our low 50's and upper 40's.. And if they want people to hold off till higher levels, the Epics need to be drastically improved.. they reall are sub-par comnpared to even much of the gear coming out of vex thal, let alone PoP....



Edited, Wed Aug 27 22:59:50 2003

There's actually two new quests, which start off differently but might ultimately become the same quest. There is a new erudite, named Protector of the Ruins, who admits in a long story that he was responsible for creating the new mobs in the zone and they are responsible for killing Yael and his elementals. Behind the erudite are three portals, one goes to new Paineel, one goes to Erudin jails, and another goes to Neriak. He says if he could get his "tome of research" and his missing spell pages, he could put a book/spell back together to get himself out of The Hole, and would pass along the book/spell to you. Then he gives you a 4 slot container. Now, from what he said in his story, the new boss mob that "killed Yael", named Guardian of the Seal, has the tome of research. This guy is a large black reaver clone that stands in front of Yael's old spot and cons indifferent. He has two gargoyle buddies, also con indifferent, that are unmezzable and unlullable, as well as being seemingly soulbound to the Guardian, which means you need a 3 grp raid force at least to add tank the gargoyles and then finish off the Guardian. Gargoyles are pretty easy, seem to be wizards, but con blue at 65. The Guardian is red at 65, hits for a maximum of 980, and may be slowable.

Now, the other quest I spoke of involves a gnome named Pellio Cogswin, or something similar. He and his brothers came to The Hole to find out what was going on recently, and they found a spell on a dead elemental. They fought over what to do with the spell, and it was torn in half. Pellio gives you two letters and asks that you seek out his brothers, Tani and Stiggle. None of these Cogswin brothers have anything to do with the one in PoK, they have the same last name but are unrelated quests. Tani has been located near the Bridgekeeper in Chardok, and after you hand him his letter, he says his spell page was stolen by the chardok Queen and given to Historian Selrin, who may have given it to the Prince, or else the Historian will be in Chardok library. As for the 2nd brother, Stiggle, he is as of yet undiscovered. My guess is you take the spell pages, the Tome from the Guardian, and combine them in the Protector's container to get a purecaster only spellbook or a new spell, which may have something to do with new portals.

Edited, Wed Aug 27 06:32:56 2003

Just went to try and kill the ghost of kindle, and I can assure you this zone is harder. Took a 65 war, 65 cleric, 65 chanter (me), 65 monk, 61 rogue, and 62 druid. first try we had to evac, cleric oom. Second try we had 3 deaths, evac. Reaching the base of the undead tower was still doable, however the new construct mobs are almost entirely magic resistant and are unmezzable. there are three who wander, and way too many mobs to deal with. anyone know is if the quest mobs have been moved to new areas? I hope so or sony just screwed me over good.

With the new patch this zone is now called "The Ruins of Old Paineel" seems to just have more drops of old items, new mobs, and that is about it.

Does anyone know where you can find a key for a door IN the hole. I can squeeze into the hole past the rocks in that pool but once inside, if you jump down to a point of no return, you either need a rogue, wizard, or druid or find a key. Anyone know where to find that key or is it the same key you can buy at a vender in Paineel by the bank???

Why doesnt Kyreena show up here? You know, one of the SK epic mobs? And BTW you spelt Caradon wrong lol

Howdy, am in the Hole as a lvl 1 rogue to learn the area, and I found this named. Anyone have any information? Graphic is as an imp.

Woot! Found out he is a mob that needs to be killed for the Quest to get The Silver Blade of Thunder. From another post looks like he is around lvl 52


Edited, Thu May 1 00:35:21 2003