Just want everyone to know I am the reason for this nerf. Shakerpageing has been around for years and years until I found about it. I 5 box I had earthshaker on my war and the tulwar on my zerker. I had it down to a science where I was able to pull the entire zone of fire from C1 on and able to group my war with 5 others. I kept levels at 70 and below for massive XP gains. I was getting on average of 24 AA per pull. Every 30 minutes or so. I maxed out my warriors AA's in a couple weeks of pulls. Then I started working on all my friends toons and bots. about a month after I started they nerfed it. I guess someone found out what I was doing it was fine til I started then it got nerfed. I still do shakerpageing but without the warrior abilities. I cant do it as efficient as I used to do. but I do get about 7 or 8 AA per pull. Solo I can get up to 20 but I can not do it with every class. Tell ya what though. If you could make post on weapons that have Point Blank AE for each class. I will tell you how I do it. I am looking for weapons with PBAE for classes that cannot cast them normally like shaman or beastlords.
I am sorry but you were not the reason that the nerf had happend... Me myself being apart of the Ever Quest development team (my name will remain anon) I know exactly why it had happend, once and for all I will let the community know..
The Earthshaker also known as the "shakerpager" had been nerfed due to many complaints of many people across all servers. Due to the limited amount of weapons on each server people found it unfair...
The lead-developer of Ever Quest had decided to listen to the community and nerf the item. It would make it so people were not allowed to gain "x" amount of aa's in "x" amount of time no longer.
Sorry to my friends of the Ever Quest community, but this had to be done.
It was nerfed because it was being abused by multiple people. The OP might have had some cause in it, but he definitely wasn't the sole reason - far from it, I'm sure.
And as for the person who claimed to be a part of the "Ever Quest" team - learn to spell the games name correctly before making up BS stories.
***NOTE: this post is only as I have come to understand thing. Any information contained within may prove to be false. Viewer discretion is advised.***
The only thing about it that has been nerfed is how AE procs work. Previously, you could get charge disc (higher hit %) and rampage AA (AE attacks) and get some shammy buffs to increase proc rate. You then pull whole zones of mobs, pop charge and Ramp and theyd all die in like 5 seconds or less from AE procs bouncing off of all of them. This is know as "shakerpaging."
Now how it works is that you only proc on your target, even if rampage is active. The item still has the same stats, the effect is just not as good at drawing in tons of xp as it used to be.
Taken from the station forums, via a google search. Link to forums at bottom.
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"Some people might be alarmed by the change to fix shaker paging, so let me explain how shaker paging worked and how it will be affected by this patch.
Shaker Paging depends on a combination of an Area Effect melee attack combine with an Area Effect spell effect. The spell comes from weapon with a Point Blank Area Effect proc, like Earthshaker, which can hit every NPC within a small radius. The melee attack is an AE rampage ability which is available to warriors.
To do this right, you want to pull a huge train into a small space around the person with the AE weapon. The AE melee attack will hit every one of them. This can easily be several thousand melee swings in a very short period of time.
Prior to this patch, each of those melee swings would have a chance to trigger the weapon proc. So the Area Effect spell might be triggered many, many times. Since every AE affects every nearby creature, it would kill them all. So, with 10 NPC's nearby, you might do a nice amount damage from the proc. Pulling 100 mobs instead would do 1000 times as much damage.
This patch won't affect the number of melee swings. Warriors will still be able to do thousands of attacks in a short time. This is a relief to those who were worried that the rampage ability might get a cap on the number of targets affected.
When a warrior rampages, only a tiny fraction of those attacks actually affect the NPC listed in the warrior's target window. After today, those will be the only attacks which will trigger the weapon proc. So instead of hundreds of procs, the warrior will see a normal number of procs. Each proc will still be an AE spell which can hit many, many targets, so they would probably kill a lot of grey-con mobs.
There just won't be the massive number of swings which can trigger a massive number of AEs. AE melee won't combine with AE damage to produce staggering waves of death.
For every other purpose, the AE weapons and AE abilities will remain exactly as before. In fact, I hope they put Earthshaker back in the game and add some other AE weapons.
What did the last patch do to this. I just got a Coral Hilted Tulwar from Water and the PBAE from it works properly. I was testing it in Great Divide trying to get my Thurg faction back. I removed all Damage shields and use no nukes and seperated spells to one window. When it proced it didnt allways seem to hit all nearby mobs but it often did. Sometimes mobs at some distance from me got hit and aggroed because of the Proc . The range on the CHT Proc is 200 which is a hella long way. Couple of times I had two mobs on me and I never targeted the second mob but sometimes the second mob died before the mob I was targeting just from Crit Nuke from the Proc usually the weaker Kael Drakel wolves. Worked great. I went to Kael waxing bunches at a time went from REady to Attack to Amibable in very short time.
The latest patch has made this all but useless, as weapon proc's will now only effect the mob that is on target, so no more pulling entire zones and going furious disc.
well this puppy now sells for about 3-5 mil plat on the zek server now and you can get about 2-3.5 lvl's per pull from 50 - 53 in 1 pull or at 70 about 4 AA per pull enjoy and hope you guys get to gettin on a ES PULL some day so you can see for your self
Are there any decent write-ups on doing EarthShaker pulls? Several zones where I've tried this I've encountered some problems where mobs will easily forget about you and wander back. Also, does anyone know a good augment to put in this guy? Are there any augs that also proc some kind of AoE (I doubt it, but ya never know)?
Some of the places I've been thinking (but haven't tried) are CoDecay trying to get the skele's to chain spawn on FDs or maybe the caller quest in Fungus Grove to PL some 50ish alts.
OMG i am so sick of reading all these posts from you frickin newbs, LISTEN UP
this sword is uber and ill tell you why....its called an ES Pull
1 warrior takes this sword to Plane of Valor, pulls the ENTIRE zone, quickly gets slowed by a shaman (increases proc rates), then he pops Rampage and the Riposte Discipline, it procs so many times the entire group of mob dies in about a quarter of a second.
This can also be done in many other zones, first one i ever joined an ES group was Nadox, in a quarter of a second I went from lvl 46 to 49.5, 3.5 levels.....thats why its uber
and yes this weapon sells for a very large amount, im not sure about other servers but on Zek it goes for 600k, i have seen many people buy for that amount...it goes for so much for 2 reason, first BECAUSE ITS UBER AND YOU GET RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF EXP WITH IT, and second IT DOES NOT DROP ANY MORE
btw level 70's get 5 AA's per pull in PoV in a full group, thats 10 AA's an hour since you can only pop disc every half an hour, total between all level 70's thats 60 AA's in one hour for the whole group AND this is BEFORE Lesson of the Devoted or as i call it (Lesson of the Day) lol
anyways i cant wait to read all you dumb newbs out there try and argue anything i just said, because your arguing with someone that has been on over 500 ES Pulls. EAT IT
When the technique was originally done it was in PoFire, and those involved got 1AA exp from it. You say that in PoV they were getting 5 times as much experience. That doesn't make much sense to me...there'd have to be a Lot more mobs in PoV than PoFire, especially since the mobs in PoFire have more experience per mob.
Since you seemed a little...well...flustered in your post, i was wondering if you embellished the exp a little? I'd like to know the true amount of exp before paying up for one of these.
Old post I know, but as we now know, 7 AA's is easily possible with a PoV pull... not just 5. So he was definitely not embellishing. Been there, done it.... the experience in the flash of a second is insane.
Why pay so much for these? For Shakerpaging wouldnt Coral Hilted Tulwar from Water be better? This AoE is 246 and the Tulwar is 350. Never played a warrior so I dont know how maybe the slower dely might effect procs on this compared to the fast dely on the Tulwar.
I am on maelin server and looking to buy one of thease. If u have one and want to part with it send in game tell to Evilizard or Tallani! Or u can email me at jlashmit069@yahoo.com
Alla is saying this sells for about 208k. Anyone have current info on what it is selling for on their server? I know it is rare but people do sell them now and then.
never ever ever ever trust alla pricing. Or any online pricing really.
People that want to sell it mark it as selling high. Those who want to buy, mark it as low.
One on Drinal in baz for the last month or so, same person, never selling, marked at 400k Only time I saw one actually sold, it went for 30k about 2 or 3 months ago. I've gotten 3 over the years. Before knowing how much some were willing to pay for it, I've destroyed 1, gave my pet one, and sold one for 10k.(Ive spent a LOT of time in the hole over the years)
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saw it on maelin server in baz selling for abotu 700k about 2 months ago. didnt have the cash to buy it, wish i did, my war alt would love this to AA xp in fire