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Paineel is home to Norrath's evil Erudite contingent, the Heretics. The most notable sites here are the Fell Blade (Shadow Knight guild), Abattoir (necromancer guild), Tabernacle of Terror (cleric guild), and the Athenaeum Necromantia (the local library).

Also here are two entrances to the Hole (one through an underwater passage; the other through a leap of faith), found through a network of tunnels extending out from the newbie area. The Warrens, city of kobolds, also connects to this same area.
The CourtyardThe Guard Captain Makes His RoundsAs You Enter the Main City...In the Vicinity of the HoleThe Fell BladeThe Poisoned PetalOutside the Dark GlomInside Fortunes FancyOverlord Virate ManaarThe Athenaeum NecromantiaInside the AbattoirTabernacle of Terror
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# Sep 15 2010 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
54 posts
Had Threateningly faction to the skellie guards to get key and went into warrens to kill kobolds, killed for about 20-30min, was easy kills then went into erudin killed about 6 sentinel guards and the 2 higher lvl guards at outside entrance and went back and had Amiable faction, said: i needz keyz to one of the skellie guards got key to elevator :)
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Duriek Bloodpool spawn timer
# Apr 13 2008 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know the spawn timer for this guy? cause i have been waiting 3 weeks for this guy to spawn and still has not spawned. Did he get moved to somewhere else?
# Dec 02 2005 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent

As a level 70 Orge SK I needed some faction for my epic. I killed in the warrens for an hour got it to dubious (I leveled up in the zone)...

Then I zoned into Erudian and killed every green sential I could find, once. When I came back to Paniell I was Kindly!

got my key..w00t
RE: Faction
# Feb 09 2006 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
39 posts
30 min in erudin killing sentials went from kos to ally!!
Enchanter perks
# Nov 03 2005 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
139 posts
Being an enchanter is a beautiful thing :) Being a gnome I wanted to get the hole key, and I've been reading all these posts of how long it took to get your faction up to get in and buy it. I just made myself an erudite with an illusion, taking me to apprehensible....then cast Benevolence on the guards....and viola, suddenly I'm amiable to everyone in Paineel.
Cast thee into the firey pit...
# Aug 16 2005 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
I fell into the pit. I can't get my body because the bottom of the pit is in a different zone. I have no money, food, or anything to purchase a key to the hole. How can I get my body?
RE: Cast thee into the firey pit...
# Aug 16 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
you are going to need to get a cleric to Divine Aura jump into the hole, once down there they can rez you, maybe get a druid to jump to his/her death as well if you cannot gate.
Paineel unreachable
# Jul 22 2004 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent

I reactivated my old account the other day, just to find out that i can t go to stonebrunts/warrens/paineel anymore !

I DL'ed the game frome the official site, and to my surprise it didnt download the 3 zones files sets. Cant create any evil erudite either. It sucks because warrens is tons of xp and SB very good for my ranger.

I dont have the LoY zones although, maybe it is related ?

any info would be much appreciated
RE: Paineel unreachable
# Jul 11 2005 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
Go into the optional zone downloading page, from the downloader program bit, and you should be able to download such zones.
# Jun 24 2003 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
16 posts
I need to know if a DEF Nec can go into Paineel or not. I hailed the skellie guards and they wouldnt even talk to me. Is there any way to build faction to get a key?
RE: Keyz
# Jul 30 2003 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
My 36 troll shaman of CT made kindly faction today. Last night I killed Sentinels in Erudin for about 2 hours and then killed in the warrens for about 2 hours. Today I went back and killed a few more guards, and that made approximately 24 to 26 total guard kills. Too many kobolds to count but not a terrible ordeal. The sentinels give MUCH better faction but if you care about your faction in Erudin I would not advise taking that route. Was amiable after that 6 or so hours of work. Hailed one of the guards in the newbie zone and said "I need a key." and he gave me a key. Found Royal Guard Lilkus on the upper floor of Darkglow Palace at location pos 1308, pos 683 and handed in 41 kobold molars to take me to kindly. The Darkglow Palace is in the area that the third teleporter takes you took me a while to find. Time to do my initiate symbol of cazic-thule =D Hope this helps everyone.

Salkan - 54th Druid of Tunare
Ulic - 54th Warrior of Rallos Zek
Crocodillia - 36th Shaman of Cazic-Thule
RE: Keyz
# Jun 24 2003 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
619 posts
kill in the warrens.

but not really worth it now they have added faction to the guards.
New faction hits
# Apr 27 2003 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
Went back to do some farming of the guards there on Povar today, and there is now a Heretics faction hit when you kill them - so if you're working in the warrens to get your faction up I'd almost suggest not to bother..

New faction hit is:

neg Heretics
pos Deepwater Knights
pos Gate Callers
pos Craftkeepers
pos Crimson Hands

Eccles of Povar.
Hole Key Merchant
# Mar 16 2003 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
The merchant that sells the Hole Key is Rallia Hapera at loc p939, p762, n79. When you look at her items for sell the key looks like a bag. That got me confused. She conned amiable to me and offered to sell me the key for 117pp 2gold 6slvr 2cpr. This was off a newly made toon. Btw, the key is No Drop. Hope that this information helps others.
RE: Hole Key Merchant
# Jul 30 2003 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for your info; she was easily found right near the bank. 106pp 4sp 9cp to my troll shammy at Kindly faction with 155 charisma. Now I won't have to shrink and do the shimmy to get into The Hole =)

Salkan - 54th Druid of Tunare
Ulic - 54th Warrior of Rallos Zek
Crocodillia - 36th Shaman of Cazic-Thule
Easier Faction Gain
# Feb 13 2003 at 1:13 PM Rating: Excellent
Doing much hunting in Stonebrunt, I wanted access to the city as it provides a much closer bank than Erudin. After days of trying to raise faction with the noobie area guards, someone suggested a certain Warrens quest. I did it (3 times) and had my key in one night. Go to the Warrens jail area and kill the Jailor (don't remember his specific name but Jailor is in the name and he is just between the pit fighters and the hallway swimming in rats). He drops up to three keys - give them to an Erudite imprisoned in one of the cells (he asks you for a key following a hail). You get xp from this quest but no visible faction modifiers - however, without killing anything more in Warrens I saw my faction rise to amiable from apprehensive in an hour). I have my city key now, wishing I had done this ages ago.
Easier Faction Gain
# Nov 04 2014 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
72 posts
Did this tonight on my necro iksar with DE illusion. started at indiff, and after 30-40 mins of slaughter and 4 turn ins, i was amiable. was def the turn ins that did it. no visible faction gain from turn ins.
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# Jan 11 2003 at 12:37 PM Rating: Default
I have a 37 Dwarf Pally and have always thought killing the guards in Paineel would be great cash. I went to the warrens to do a little faction work. I obviously started out as ready to attack to the guards so I kenw I had alot of work to go. After about 4 hours of killing I was at threatening. I thought wow that was alot fo work but shouldnt take that much longer. Boy was I ever wrong I stayed at doubious for about 5 more hours and gave up. About 2 weeks later I came back to get some cold Iron for a buddy of mine. I killed a few kobolds out of habbit, when I left I was Indiff. Woo hoo I said now I can turn in molars. So I gathered about 30 molers and when I conned the guards I found I was already Ammy. So now I am in paineel wreaking havoc and collection about 500pp a hour. Not bad for a easy days work. The best trick I have found is fear the guards and they will run to the elevator and get stuck, then you can just wack them from behind. Saves alot of Mana on heals. Our fear undead lasts along time and only cost 10 mana. Don't give up hope pallys this place is a gold mine.
I needz keyz. And how do you get out
# Dec 09 2002 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
Just for those having trouble trying to get a key to paineel the exact words are"i needz keyz" said to eithger of the skeletal guards in the noobie area. Now that bits done I've discovered a little proble with paineel. I got myself bound in there as im doing a quest in Stonebrunt. I let myself out of the city using my key. I died in Stonebrunt and of course respawn in Paineel with my LORE paineel key on my body in stonebrunt. cant get another (you already have this lore item when i ask guards inside). cant operate the lift to get out again. No-one else in zone to operate lift for me.. AAAARGGH I am imprisioned mayhaps forever in this damnable city.

So if your operating out of Paineel is probably a really good idea to get a caster to bind you in the noob area rather than using soulbinder in city proper. Ill have to wait till soneone else in zone to let me out or get a guildie to come halfway round Norrath to let me out.

Edit: and additional thing of note. I found that the skeles would not give me the key at indifferent I had to get to amiable before the would give me a key into the city. Not so hard to do tho took me about 4hrs killing in warrens to get to indiffe from threateningly and then got someone else to let me into city so i could hand in kobold molar and get faction to amiable. indiff to amiable 58 kobold molars.

Edit: If the skeletons will give you a key to paineel lift when asked then you should destroy your key every time you leave the city. That way if bound inside you will always be able to ask them for another so you can get out.

Edited, Wed Dec 18 22:11:26 2002
# Dec 02 2002 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
Me(52 human necro) and friend(54 war) decided to get some faction to get in this town well, i was KOS (especially to that ******* of dude close to N00B zone up the stairs he like to fear me and do all kind of stuff so one day i doted him for 5 K and see if he liked it ! LOLOL anyhow other story.

To get ya faction up just go in Erudite and kill guards down there. Took us an hour and i'm amiable now .... so make sure you INVIS up (DO NOT ATTACK the two that are in TOX ... con blue to 52 and quad for 250 .... YES 250 !!!!

Just go in Erudite and kill ONLY guards, not merchant or others. This way the high lvl dudes wont come.

Worked for me ! (Then again Erudin all hated me ANYHOW so .... i chose Paineel over Erudin) hehehe
and im free, free faling
# Nov 23 2002 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
One of the worst things about this City. This hapend to me. woot im lvl 10 AND im twinked now to go get some skills . sliped into the hole. zoned fell for 20000 and never got back my stuff. not to fun eh? So wach what your step peopel
RE: and im free, free faling
# Nov 25 2002 at 4:45 PM Rating: Default
Opps, you fell into the hole. That is not the way to Painheel
How do you get into the city?
# Nov 11 2002 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
I know I need a key to get the elevator to move. I know I get this key from a guard. What I do not know is.....where the guard is. Where is the guard that I ask for the key?
RE: How do you get into the city?
# Nov 13 2002 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
40 posts
Hail the guards and say I need keyz. Then put key on cursor and click the stone - that's what I did.
Hole Key
# Nov 09 2002 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
199 posts
Hello all, well after getting my faction up to Kindly to Paineel went to the Superior Suplies looking to buy a key to The Hole. after hailing the downstairs vendors and saying "I need a key" and some other veriations I have yet been able to get a key. I have also gone upstairs to the alchemy vendor to ask the same questions, does anyone know if they have stopped selling the key or is it a bug, or am I just not saying the right thing to the vendor.
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RE: Hole Key
# Nov 13 2002 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
40 posts
I saw it for sale on a vendor - dunno which one. Didn't cost too much to my pally.
RE: Hole Key
# Jul 15 2003 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
Wait........ you have a pally in Paineel? How did you get ur faction up?
How to leave the observatory
# Nov 05 2002 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
40 posts
I crept thru the city with my paladin glow hidden and my heart in my throat. Oddly all were amiable but one area of what looked to be necros. Fearing falling asleep in such a place during the patch, I tried to leave the city. Somehow I took a wrong turn and found myself in the observatory.

The Tunare worshiping paladin is trapped having tried everything she could think of. Can someone quit laughing long enough to share the method of leaving said observatory?

Thank you ever so much!
RE: How to leave the observatory
# Nov 05 2002 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
Your technical stuck in that observatory because of a bug with the portal. You can either call the GM to assist you out or have druid friend of yours port you out... Those are the only 2 ways out of the observatory.

-11 Erud Necro - Berduso
RE: How to leave the observatory
# Jan 14 2003 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
accually a wiz port would work fine, and a gate potion. So there are 4 ways out.
Can a chanty kill in Paineel?
# Oct 03 2002 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
Hi, have lots of friends who do the paineel for making some cash. If i raise my faction killing in the warrens what do you think my odds are off taking these guards or skeles for cash ?and whats the best method? probably should take a melee of somesort with me just to be safe. Also once i am able to get in can i buy a hole key? I would think so since i have my factiong ood enough to get in painee? Just curious if this will work for me before I spend hours killin in the warrens :) . thanks !
iksar sk kos
# Sep 27 2002 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
are iksar sk's kos in town
# Sep 17 2002 at 2:13 AM Rating: Decent
is a troll KOS in Paineel (or other evil race) ?
1K Kejekan tool kit
# Jul 30 2002 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
The bar keep in the tavern/inn sells a "Kejekan Tool Kit" 30% WR capacity 8 medium container. Anyone know anything about this item other than the stats? Associated with any particular quests anyone knows of etc? It wasn't my 1000 pp so I'm happy with it either way;)
how to get into panieel
# Jun 16 2002 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
I have not played my necro in a while, i remember how to get into paineel. i got a key and don't know if it is the right onew or not. Did they change the key or how it is used or did i just forget. what is the name of the key and were can i get one if i lost it? any help would be appricated
# Jun 12 2002 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
Has anyone ever gotten a response out of Taltlros the cruel? And in the bar with the dancing skeletons the barkeep offers to sell you a Shar Vahl artifact for 1000 pp anyone know what it is? ( before i drop 1k pp out of curiosity)

Norden 54 Reaver of Fennin Ro
using lanterns?
# May 25 2002 at 4:30 PM Rating: Default
OK total newbie question here: I have a lantern but how do I get it to light up? Not finding this in the manual and the tutorial keeps crashing on me (buggy?). What's the trick? There are a lot of very dark places in Paineel I want to poke around in....
RE: using lanterns?
# Jul 15 2003 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
if your lantern is eqquipped and there still is no light, you probably went into water and it went out. Unequiep then re-equip to re-light it.
RE: using lanterns?
# Jul 30 2002 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
equip the lantern and it will provide what light it can

no need to light it at all
RE: using lanterns?
# Jun 13 2002 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
I had that very question myself. It's not that they don't light up it's that they don't light up enough. Try fire beetle eyes, lightstones (reg and greater from WillOWisps) and torches. Also you might want to look into the stein of maggok quest as the items serves as a light source but you do have to travel a bit and have several variant factions to complete.

Also consider traveling with someone who has nightvision or a light source. And get really good at using maps and the /loc function. It helps to have good telemetry just incase you gotta make a fast break and if you have enough skill (you as in the person with the keyborad not the scion) you can manuver pretty well in the dark just mind drops.

If you can afford to, try the different light sources to find what works or just ask around there will be some one willing to help.

PS if you can cast most groups get a light source spell of some sort before lvl 10.
RE: using lanterns?
# Nov 08 2002 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
The Paineel key is a wonderful source of light :)
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