Karnor's Castle

Armband seems to drop off Drolvarg Warlord every time. I think your helpers weren't killing the right mob. Only the Drolvarg Warlord drops this as far as I know.

This is a component of the Greenmist quest, the final of the progressive shadowknight khukri quests in Cabilis. This particular item must be handed to Haggle Baron Dalnir in the Crypt of Dalnir. (along with quill and parchment).

I also would like to know. I tried to have a bard friend of mine pick it with no luck. Perhaps a 200+ rogue is needed or a key if it exsists.

Havent seen it myself, but yesterday someone shouted in KC that the book had dropped.
So yoou may start looking for a shave ;-)

its not a matter of how well you play

people dont want low level gimps in the group that can get feared, rooted, cant resist spells, cant land nukes, cant taunt, etc etc

If i saw you in karnors I would tell you to leave as well. All low level noobs do is cause trains

Just a quick tip for the trained: if someone's getting cute by FD'n at your feet, HEAL them. Back on the aggro list they go - you'll prolly still snuff it, but at least you'll have company.


Markoff Chaney
Gnecro of the 51st Corpse
(semi-retired)

Hmm. Looting NODROP stuff from mobs you didn't kill isn't really twinking- it's something different, called vulching (from vulture). This usually happens when the NODROP stuff is worthless (or nearly) to the people who are doing the killing, and they would just destroy it or let it rot. Vulching is usually tolerated and somewhat encouraged- I hear it all the time in KC, "Jarcrap *item* in *location*, come loot it before it rots". But there are a few guidelines for someone wanting to do this- I'll try to customize the list for KC, and let anyone else add anything I might have missed.

1. The KOS thing. If you have good VS (Venril Sathir) faction, about half of the mobs in KC will not agro you on sight, including most of the ones near the entrance. This makes it much easier to get in to wherever the item is without getting jumped, although you're still taking your life into your hands. If, however, you don't have good VS faction, you're asking for trouble for you and the zone, unless you get an experienced person to escort you in and out, preferably with an invis. Bind nearby and be prepared to die. If you get jumped without an escort, do the honorable thing and die- don't create a train in a zone you're not even supposed to be in. KC is deadly enough as it is- people go AFK at the entrance sometimes, and they will die if you train. That's not right, especially if you didn't fight to earn the item. For a 16 shaman, this is not really an issue anyway, as these mobs will annihilate you in about two seconds. Remember that ALL undead in this zone are KOS to everyone, and some of the dogs are too. And be sure to let them know that you're coming for the item, so you don't have people fighting over it, and so they don't destroy it.

2. Don't spam. In KC at least, people usually OOC what dropped where, so you probably won't need to ask. If you do OOC to loot Jarsath, don't do it more than once every half hour or so, and be very polite about it- these people have nothing to gain from letting someone else loot in their room, and they risk having a newbie create a train that will kill them all, just so you can loot something. That's pretty nice of them, so loot it, and then IMMEDIATELY get back to the zone, unless you see a KOS mob in your path. Once you're back at the entrance, thank them so the whole zone can hear, and maybe ask one of them in a /tell if there's anything you can do for them in return- maybe they need supplies from the store or whatever. They probably won't, but it's nice to ask anyway. Let me impress on you once more- after you loot the item, don't talk, don't bow, don't even scratch your nose- get back to the zone, unless there's a KOS mob in your path, and you would create a train. You can talk when you're safely at the entrance.

3. RTFM. Study the map of KC at http://www.eqatlas.com/kunark/karnors1map.html before you think of doing this. I wouldn't suggest a newbie go any deeper than the courtyards, unless maybe you have a very good escort- who knows KC- and some form of invisibility. Remember that mobs swim in the moat, and that there may be pops at places you didn't think of, simply because they weren't there when you entered.

4. Be ready to sit around. Jarcrap doesn't usually drop more than a time or two an hour, and there may be someone ahead of you. It PROBABLY won't take you terribly long to get an item, if you're not picky about which item you get, but it might. Just so you'll know. Sit at the southern zone- most trains go out the northern zone. Better yet, find out for sure which way trains go on your server.

Jarsath isn't really bad armor, it just doesn't rule. But to give you an example- our cleric got a Jarsath helm last night. It's something like 10ac 2int 2wis 5svm. She was using a runed circlet, 4ac 4int 4wis. Clearly, extra wisdom is more important for a cleric, but when she gets to 200 wisdom, the Jarsath helm will be MUCH better, with 6 higher AC and a nice boost to svm. And there will be a few people who are fighting in there for whom Jarsath will actually be a big step up from their old gear.

For folks looking to hunt there- remember, KC is a very dangerous dungeon, with bad pathing; lethal trains; casters who can gate, nuke, debuff, and complete heal; etc. If you get a group there, do what your leader says, or find another group- you can't afford to have dissention in the ranks. If you get a doofus in your group, politely have them leave (like our paladin the other day who kept demanding IN ALL CAPS that the leader go where he wanted to hunt, and who drank eight Honey Meads because he said getting plastered helped mana regen...*eyeroll*). If done properly, KC can be fairly safe and very rewarding, but it takes a lot more discipline and teamwork than an outside zone like DL. Most people in there are around level 50, but I started at level 38, so it can be done, if you're careful and respectful of your fellow players. Find out how your group is doing loot at the beginning, before some nice item drops. Above all, have fun- it's just a game. ^_^ \/

Teriuk / Terriuk / Tookus
Warrior / Warrior / Druid
Morell-Thule

Um, camp? Venril Sathir (normal) is roughly a three day spawn. He probably *could* be done by a 58+ group by themselves, if they have a chanter or two to chain-rune the tank. Otherwise, I think probably 3 groups of 53+ or even more groups of lower levels.

Have seen it go both ways. Just ask when you join the group what the loot rules are. If you don't like them you can always leave and find a grou you like better. Most of the groups I was in there limited it to people that could/would use an item rolling on it. If nobody in the group was going to use it then it went open roll. ie I believe its a druid bracer that sometimes drops in the hands room. We had no druid so all who hadn't already gotten something really nice got to roll.

But of course... (click below)

Laleldil's Journal entry concerning KC strategy

Very well done journal!
For those who wish to read his entire journal (it's worth a read!),
click on the following link to return to Laleldil's Journal


Edited, Tue Jul 9 22:18:24 2002