Planar Progression  

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Information:
Level:60
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Guide
Quest Goal:
  • Advancement
Quest Items:
Related Zones:
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Related Quests:
Era:Planes of Power
Recommended:
Group Size:Raid
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Fri Sep 5 18:18:09 2003
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
When dealing with Planar flags, always go through ALL quest texts. Don't use shortcuts -- if you miss even one minor flag, you won't be able to progress through the Planes. You can always backpedal, but figuring out what you're missing can prove tedious. When in doubt, speak with Seer Mal Nae`Shi in the Plane of Knowledge at -40, -200. Say "Unlock memories" until the quotes repeat or you see:

You manage to recover some images from your childhood, but no recent events spark a memory.

If her replies are the same after multiple "unlock memories" and do not have the childhood quote, that is a clue to some flag(s) you are missing. Find the quote below for help on what to do. Now say "Guided meditation." to determine what flags you have or are missing. Here is a list of the Seer's quotes, along with an interpretation of which flags/steps you are missing. A quote in blue indicates that you have completed this flag and are ready for more. In many cases, after you kill a god you must either hail a Planar Projection to receive credit for the kill or speak with the NPC that triggered the event. Note that some of the quotes will disappear as you progress through the Planes.

Table of Contents:
Tier 1
  • Plane of Justice
  • Plane of Disease
  • Plane of Nightmare
  • Plane of Innovation

    Tier 2
  • Plane of Valor
  • Plane of Storms
  • Ruins of Lxanvom
  • Plane of Torment

    Tier 3
  • Plane of Tactics
  • Bastion of Thunder
  • Halls of Honor
  • Tower of Solusek Ro

    Tier 4
  • Elemental Planes

    Tier 5
  • Plane of Time

  • Misc Information




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Justice - PoJ Flag Guide

    The evidence of Mavuin is the only thing that can save him now.

    Preflagged from Mavuin, or have completed a trial but did not say "what evidence" to a Tribunal.

    Having endured the trials, the Tribunal has agreed to reconsider Mavuin's case.

    You have the preflag, completed the trial, and talked to the Tribunal, but have yet to go back and hail Mavuin.

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Disease - PoD Flag Guide

    Adler Fuirstel wishes you to obtain the Ward from the Plane of Disease and take it to his ill brother Milyk.

    Received Grummus preflag by saying "What ward?" to Adler Fuirstel next to Plane of Disease entrance. Grummus not defeated.

    You remember seeing a small trinket by Grummus' body and wondering what it was for. Perhaps speaking to someone near the Plane of Disease will shed some light on the situation.

    Grummus defeated, but you need preflag from Adler Fuirstel.

    For a moment you pause, sticking your hand into your pocket. Inside you find the small ward that was lying near Grummus' body, perhaps you should bring it to Milyk.

    Grummus killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not finished by hailing Elder Fuirstel in Plane of Tranquility.

    Grummus has been destroyed, about his corpse you found a small ward to protect from disease.

    Preflag done and Grummus killed, but you have not returned to the sick bay in Plane of Tranquility and hailed Elder Fuirstel.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Nightmare - Lair of Terris Thule Flag Guide - Go to Top

    Thelin being tormented by the imagery of Terris Thule needs assistance escaping from the Plane of Nightmares.

    Hedge maze preflag. You hailed Elder Poxbourne, then hailed Adroha Jezith and said "tortured by nightmares."

    Thelin has completed his pact with Terris Thule, but has been refused. The only way to escape his torment now is to destroy Terris Thule.

    Hedge event done, and you went back to sick bay and hailed Elder Poxbourne and Adroha again. You are flagged to enter the Lair of Terris Thule. Terris Thule not defeated in PoNb/Lair of Terris Thule yet.

    Terris still haunts your nightmares whenever you attemt to recall your battle with her.

    Terris Thule defeated, but either the PoN hedge event was not completed and or the preflags for it weren't.

    Terris Thule's grasp over Thelin has been released

    Terris Thule has been defeated, Hedge event and preflags complete, but you have yet to hail Elder Poxbourne in sick bay to complete cycle.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Terris Thule flag completed.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Innovation - Key to Factory Guide - Destroy the Behemoth - Go to Top

    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.

    Xanamech Nezmirthafen killed and Nitram Anizok hailed. You have access to the Plane of Innovation factory (not required for progression).

    Giwin's invitation to Drunder reminds you of some notes you found around Vallon's body.

    Received after talking to Giwin inside the factory, having already been flagged for killing the behemoth. Note: had to say "test the machine" to Giwin without prompting since he gives the alternate quest when hailed.

    Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek.

    Said to Giwin Mirakon, "I will test the machine." Manaetic Behemoth killed. Zoned into Plane of Tactics. You are flagged for Plane of Tactics/Drunder, Fortress of Zek, but haven't killed either of the Zeks yet.




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Valor - Go to Top

    You have defeated Aerin`Dar but have yet to learn the true meaning of Justice.

    Aerin`Dar killed, but you have not completed a Trial in Plane of Justice.

    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.

    Aerin`Dar killed. You are flagged for Halls of Honor (not actually required for planar progression, since you can use the 85% rule to get piggybacked into Temple of Marr once in Halls of Honor, then kill Mithaniel Marr there to get your flag).




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Storms - Go to Top

    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    You have not completed the Plane of Storms key quest for Bastion of Thunder.

    You have shown your prowess in battle to Askr, now you must make strides to get to the Bastion of Thunder.

    You turned in the bone, beard, and sash, but have yet to turn in the medallions, or you have turned in everything but have yet to complete a Trial in the Plane of Justice.

    You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.

    You have successfully completed assisting Askr and have entered the Bastion of Thunder.




  • Tier 2 - Ruins of Lxanvom (a.k.a. Crypt of Decay) - Go to Top

    Bertoxxulous has been slain by Soandso!
    A nimbus of light floods throughs the crypt in one magnificent wave as an earth shattering howl is heard. The bringer of plagues, lord of all disease and decay, Bertoxxulous has been defeated. Suddenly an urgent whisper fills your head simply saying, 'The Torch of Lxanvom shall burn bright again. Freedom is now ours, for that we thank you.'

    You say, 'Hail, a planar projection'
    Milyk Fuirstel's thoughts enter into your own. 'Bertoxxulous is slain, for this my brother and I are forever in your debt. Please, when you have the opportunity come visit me in the Plane of Tranquility. I would like to thank you face to face.'
    You've received a character flag!

    You say, 'Hail, Elder Fuirstel'
    Elder Fuirstel tells you, 'Welcome back friend. I must tell you that my brother and I shall never forget what you have done for us. We have since renounced our following of Bertoxxulous, for in him we only found suffering. We have joined a new following, learning from the gods without their direct influence over us. I shall not keep you though, thank you once again!'
    You've received a character flag!

    Milyk has been saved from certain death, but is not recovering. Only by destroying the ruler of all things pestilent will his curse be lifted.

    Bertoxxulous preflag: you killed Grummus and hailed Adler Fuirstel near Plane of Disease entrance and Elder Fuirstel in sick bay.

    You focus back to your battle with the Plaguebringer, memories of his death give you a moment of clarity. You now have the knowledge to help Milyk. - (We need detail on what this means)

    Bertoxxulous has been slain. The curse from Milyk has been lifted.

    Bertoxxulous killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not completed by hailing Adler and Elder.

    As you recall your memory of your battle against the Plaguebringer, an image of the Fuirstel brothers flashes through your mind.

    Bertoxxulous killed, but you don't have the Grummus flag.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Bertoxxulous flag completed.




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Torment - Go to Top

    Tylis is being tortured by Saryrn. The only way for him to get away from his misery is to escape from the Plane of Torment. See this quest entry for this portion.

    Saryrn preflag from hailing Fahlia Shadyglade and saying "I will go." (Saying "I will go to the Plane of Torment." puts you in a dialogue loop.) You must have Terris Thule and Bertoxxulous flags complete.

    Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are.

    You have killed the Keeper of Sorrows, but do not have the Saryrn preflag.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place.

    You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.

    Saryrn killed, but there's a problem with the preflag, postflag, Maareq the Prophet event, Terris Thule chain, or Bertoxxulous chain.

    You feel the searing pain of torment as half of the Cipher of the Gods glows on your arm.

    Saryrn chain complete. Mithaniel Marr chain incomplete.

    Saryrn has been destroyed. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.

    Saryrn completed, but you have not yet hailed Grand Librarian Maelin after completing the Mithaniel Marr chain.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed.




  • Tier 3 - Drunder, Fortress of Zek (a.k.a. Plane of Tactics) - Go to Top

    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Defeated Vallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian).

    Vallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but... well it's probably nothing.

    Vallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag.

    Tallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but well it's probably nothing.

    Tallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag.

    The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Defeated Tallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian).

    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    You are missing part of the Cipher and are not yet flagged for the elemental planes.

    Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek.

    You have defeated the Behemoth and have access to Tactics (Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek not killed yet).

    The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion in Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.'

    Have Mithaniel Marr/Saryrn/Tallon Zek/Vallon Zek flags (and prerequisites completed). Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Have not yet killed Rallos Zek the Warlord. Flagged to enter Tower of Solusek Ro.

    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.

    Rallos Zek the Warlord defeated.

    After killing Rallos Zek talk to Maelin and say "I have information"; you will receive a character flag. That will turn "The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk ..." into "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate ..."




  • Tier 3 - Torden, the Bastion of Thunder - Go to Top

    You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.

    You are flagged to enter the Bastion of Thunder, but have not yet completed Agnarr.

    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    You have killed Agnarr and talked to Karana, but aren't yet flagged to enter Bastion of Thunder.

    The information obtained from Karana is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Agnarr flag done. You have not hailed librarian after completing Mithaniel Marr path.

    As you think back to your meeting with Karana the Talisman in your chest warms and a light rain falls from the sky. When you look down, a small book written in a language you can not read, rests in your hands.

    Agnarr and Karana completed, but you have not said "what lore" to librarian.

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag.




    Tier 3 - Halls of Honor (HoHa) and Temple of Marr (HoHb) - Go to Top

    You have beaten Rydda`Dar in the first of Honor's trials.

    You completed the Rydda`Dar trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have saved the villagers in the second of Honor's Trials.

    You completed the Ogre trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have defeated the nomads in the third of Honor's trials.

    You completed the Madmen trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    3 trials in Halls of Honor completed.

    The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Mithaniel Marr done, but have not hailed librarian after completing Agnarr path.

    An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. You have yet to earn a place of Honor. When you have, we will speak again.

    You were piggybacked into Temple of Marr and killed Mithaniel Marr, but are missing one or more of the trials.

    An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. He looks up from a small book in his hands and smiles at you. You have not yet earned the Honor to see these words.

    You have killed both Mithaniel and Agnarr, but have unfinished Halls of Honor flags (usually seen together with the above). You can also see this without having killed Agnarr, but after being piggybacked into a Mithaniel Marr raid with the trials not completed.

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag.

    Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.

    Mithaniel Marr defeated, but have not hailed librarian after completing Saryrn chain.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed.

    To enter the Tower of Solusek Ro, you must have the following at a minimum: (Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, Tallon Zek, Vallon Zek)

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Terris Thule flag completed.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Bertoxxulous flag completed.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place.

    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    3 trials in Halls of Honor completed.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flags completed.

    The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion of Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.

    Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek flags completed.




  • Tier 3 - Tower of Solusek Ro - Go to Top

    Arlyxir's wealth of knowledge flows through your mind.
    Jiva's strength fills your body.
    The power of Dresolik surges through you.
    Xuzl's arcane wisdom pulses in your mind.
    Rizlona's song slips through your thoughts.


    The five ToSR minibosses and what you see after you beat each one (these will not appear if you have not hailed Miak in Plane of Tranquility for Doomfire, the Burning Planes/Plane of Fire preflag).

    Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit.

    Have killed Solusek Ro but the Tactics chain is not yet complete.




  • Tier 4 - Elemental Planes: Doomfire, the Burning Planes (Elemental Plane of Fire); Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind (Elemental Plane of Air); Reef of Coirnav (Elemental Plane of Water); Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands (Elemental Plane of Earth A); Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve (Elemental Plane of Earth B) - Go to Top

    Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine.

    Rallos Zek and Agnarr flags completed. Have access to Planes of Air, Earth (A), and Water.

    The portal into the Plane of Fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.

    Preflag to killing Solusek Ro.

    The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind.

    Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek defeated (and have all prerequisites). You are flagged to enter the Plane of Fire. The messages for the five mini-bosses disappear once you have this.




  • Tier 5 - Plane of Time - Go to Top

    Your soul has formed a bond with the Plane of Time. You can now pass through the portal in the Plane of Tranquility safely.

    You are flagged to enter the Plane of Time!

    After running the first trial and zoning back to Plane of Tranquility, this message displays.

    The cipher on your arm glows for a moment as the words of history fill your mind. The knowledge you have gained now grants you access to the planes of the Elemental Gods.




  • Miscellaneous information - Go to Top

    Access to Planes of Disease, Innovation, Justice, Nightmare, and Tranquility

    Levels 46 and up.

    Access to Planes of Storm, Torment, and Valor, and the Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay)

    Levels 55 and up.

    Access to Torden, the Bastion of Thunder and the Halls of Honor

    Levels 62 and up.

    Alternate access

    Certain zones are accessible through alternate means, although these do not count toward your planar progression. They do, however, count toward your charm power and AA rewards when talking with Gram Dunnar in the Plane of Knowledge. You are only rewarded once, for completing either the alternate access quest or the regular flagging. The zones with alternate access quests are Drunder, Fortress of Zek (Plane of Tactics), Plane of Torment, Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay), and Halls of Honor.

    Access to The Seventh Hammer in Plane of Justice (not required for progression)

    To reach The Seventh Hammer, you must complete the six trials and loot the Marks off the final boss of each. Say to The Tribunal, "I seek knowledge," and use The Mark of Justice on a portal to go into The Seventh Hammer's room.

    Access to Bertoxxulous once inside Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay)

    Kill Carprin Deatharn, Bishop Toluwon, Vindor Mawnil, Raex Pwodill and High Priest Ultor Szanvon (one spawns after the other). Hail Tarkil Adan after the High Priest's death.

    You say, 'Hail, Tarkil Adan'

    Tarkil Adan lets out a groan and then whimpers saying, 'Yes great ones yesss I was king once I wasss.'

    The creature then mutters under his breath and passes you a small glowing bone fragment etched in runes.

    Then speaks again saying, 'The tortured ones oh the tortured ones, you must go to the depths of Lxanvom and free them. Go to the bone throne at the ruins entrance there you will find access to the depths.'

    He then goes back to whimpering and rocking back and forth.

    You've received a character flag!

    Access to Saryrn once inside Plane of Torment

    Kill an Unimaginable Horror in the stomach of Baraguj Szuul and loot the container. In this container, combine the Orbs of Anguish, Agony, Pain and Suffering (dropped off the Avatars of the same names).

    Access to the Tower of Solusek Ro

    Must have every flag except Bastion of Thunder key, Agnarr, and Rallos Zek to enter Solusek Ro tower. You do not need Aerin`Dar, but you must have completed the three Halls of Honor trials and must use the 85% rule to get through Mithaniel Marr.

    Access to Solusek Ro's lair

    Rallos Zek in Tactics, and flags from The Guardian of Dresolik, Rizlona, Arlyxir, Xuzl and Jiva in Tower of Solusek Ro.

    Access to Plane of Fire

    Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek.

    Access to Planes of Water/Air/Earth (A) - Go to Top

    Rallos Zek and Agnarr.

    Access to Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve (Plane of Earth B)

    Complete the ring events in Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands (Plane of Earth A), and kill the Mystical Arbitor of Earth.

    Access to Avatar of Earth

    Kill the twelve members of the Rathe council.

    Access to Plane of Time

    Obtain the following items, received after hailing the Essence that spawns following the death of the corresponding god. Combine the following items in an Odylic Vial:
    Sphere of Coalesced Water (Reef of Coirnav)
    Globe of Dancing Flame (Doomfire, the Burning Lands)
    Mound of Living Stone (Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve)
    Amorphous Cloud of Air (Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind)

    Speak with Chronographer Muon in the Plane of Innovation:

    You say, 'Hail, Grand Librarian Maelin'
    Maelin tells you, 'The Quintessence! Oh my this is amazing! I have come into contact with Chronographer Muon in the realm of innovation. Go to him, show him you have the power to activate machine. I shall meet you there, this I must see!'

    Inside the factory in Plane of Innovation:

    You say, 'Hail, Chronographer Muon'

    Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Acquisition of power completed. Would you like to be transported to the time-projection chamber?'

    You say, 'Yes'

    Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Compliance.'

    You now get teleported to a separate part of the zone.

    You say, 'Hail, Loreseeker Maelin'

    Loreseeker Maelin fidgets about with excitement, 'So here you are, this is quite impressive. I cannot wait to see the results of this impressive machine! I have coordinated with the clockworks here that have not gone mad. We have set the machine to tear a point of time open that should be equal to that based on the cipher and history that we have [researched].'

    You say, 'Researched?'

    Loreseeker Maelin says 'Based on the findings from the information that you brought back to me I have determined the exact time to open. I believe the machine will work. Please step up and activate the machine! Once you have formed a bond with the Plane of Time you will be able to access the Plane again through the Plane of Tranquility. They have built a portal there, but no one was able to become attuned to that plane, until you that is. Good luck!'

    Click on the big machine next to Maelin.

    You have received a character flag!
    The ages begin to tear through your body. You wake to find yourself in another time.
    LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
    You have entered The Plane of Time.

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    librarian quote
    # Jan 21 2021 at 7:08 PM Rating: Good
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    "Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions."

    If you have this and the librarian says

    "Maelin tells you, 'More notes in the divine language? You are quite the intrepid adventurer I must say! I can tell from these letters that they are some communication between Tallon and Vallon. Why don't you go try to find the responses to these notes so that I can make complete sense of the dialgoue that is taken place. If I am not mistaken though, the fate of Norrath lies in the hands of Rallos and Solusek!'"

    When you say "new information" you're missing either TZ or VZ but have RZ and the rest of the tactics chain complete. Once I got the remaining Zek I needed I had to do unlock memories a couple times then go up to the librarian.
    Saving Yourself Time
    # Nov 30 2019 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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    IMPORTANT !! If you are doing Planar Progression to get THE ARTISAN'S PRIZE this will SAVE you TIME:

    This is a list of items that you should SAVE, if you run across them on your first treks thru the planes. I hope it will save you some time, otherwise you will HAVE to go BACK to these same zones for these items when you get to the Aid Grimel part of the Artisan's Prize quest suite.

    Hope Stone - any elemental plane
    Planar Fruit (foraged) - Plane of Justice
    Hero Parts - Halls of Honor
    Drop of Pure Rain - Torden, Bastion of Thunder
    Brick of Ethereal Energy - Torden
    Sandstorm Pearl - Torden
    Featherwood Staff - Eryslai, Plane of Air
    Chunk of Wind Metal - Plane of Air
    Air Arachnid Silk - Plane of Air
    Obsidianwood Sap - Plane of Nightmare (or Fire, maybe?)
    Fire Arachnid Silk - Plane of Fire
    Unbroken Eye Stalks, Tail Fins, or Starghliug Legs (from Starghliugs) - Plane of Nightmare.

    I am sure this list is not complete, but it will save you ALOTTA time.
    The WORST one is the Hope Stone. I let like 3 of these rot when I was on PoF and PoA, and had to go back for them. I had to clear the ENTIRE zone 3x to get 2.
    Starghliug Legs REALLY don't like to drop, but fortunately you can use tail fins or eye stalks to make the Poppers for the Bristlebane Party Platter, and the only reason I know that is because somebody else posted it. I killed EVERY Starghliug in the zone 3x before I got a single leg, but eye stalks are plentiful. Forget the legs, you will have 10 stalks before you have 2 legs.

    ALSO IMPORTANT :
    I was told you do NOT have to do Elemental Planes to get the Artisan's Prize, gonna see how that works out. So far, I've been able to finish Aid Grimel without it, so we will see. You only need to go Plane of Water, Air, and Fire to get parts for Grimel. If this is correct, you can basically STOP progression after you've killed Solusek Ro. I killed Fennin Ro on Plane of Fire as well, but don't remember if he is mandatory.
    I did not need more than 15 of any one item for 2 toons. Get yourself some Extraplanar Trade Satchels and save these items, save time. Profit from my pain, and good luck.
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    # May 15 2020 at 3:48 AM Rating: Decent
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    We got our Artisan's Prizes and can confirm:
    You DO NOT have to do the Elemental Planes or Plane of Time to get the Artisan Prize.
    You can stop after Tower of Solusek Ro. You will however need items for combines later, from the elemental planes.
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    # Oct 25 2019 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
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    "You can always backpedal, but figuring out what you're missing can prove tedious."
    Yeah, especially when this guide doesn't go in the EXACT order you need to do these things...
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    I have been soloing the PoP expansion for Time flagging. I clicked on PoT to run the raid, did the first trial, and when I zoned back into PoTranquility, this popped up:

    "The cipher on your arm glows for a moment as the words of history fill your mind. The knowledge you have gained now grants you access to the planes of the Elemental Gods."
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    CoD flag missing
    # Nov 22 2017 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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    I have the following in my "unlock memories" which doesn't seem to be listed, not yet sure what was missed. Will post if I figure it out...

    You focus back to your battle with the Plaguebringer, memories of his death give you a moment of clarity. You now have the knowledge to help Milyk.
    CoD flag missing
    # Mar 19 2018 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
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    I was getting the same thing, I went up and talked to the Grand Librarian, and did the guided Meditiation. it changed to the one saying i needed to hail the two guys again.
    CoD flag missing
    # Nov 26 2017 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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    Another quote that's not listed:
    Giwin's invitation to Drunder reminds you of some notes you found around Vallon's body

    Received after talking to Giwin inside the factory, having already been flagged for killing the behemoth. Note: had to say"test the machine" to Giwin without prompting since he gives the alternate quest when hailed.
    CoD flag missing
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    andashinycoat wrote:
    I have the following in my "unlock memories" which doesn't seem to be listed, not yet sure what was missed. Will post if I figure it out...

    You focus back to your battle with the Plaguebringer, memories of his death give you a moment of clarity. You now have the knowledge to help Milyk.

    Try using http://www.alkabor.com/flags.html It's pretty help trying to figure out what you are missing.

    Edited, Nov 25th 2017 8:20am by Barudin314
    CoD flag missing
    # Nov 26 2017 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
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    I appreciate the response, my point was this was a quote provided by Mal Nae'Shi that wasn't in the script or on this page.
    Tylis's Condition (Saryrn Flag)
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    please add this sub-quest:

    Tylis's Condition (Saryrn Flag) - https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2896

    to the Tier 2 - Plane of Torment section above, as well as the Related Quests section at the left pane.

    Also this PoP flag parser is very useful for figuring out what flags/hails you need still:

    http://www.alkabor.com/flags.html

    Edited, Feb 1st 2020 9:47pm by Zaztik
    Tylis's Condition (Saryrn Flag)
    # Feb 03 2017 at 5:09 PM Rating: Excellent
    Zaztik wrote:
    please add this sub-quest:

    Tylis's Condition (Saryrn Flag) - https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2896

    to the Tier 2 - Plane of Torment section above, as well as the Related Quests section at the left pane.

    Also this PoP flag parser is very useful for figuring out what flags/hails you need still: http://www.alkabor.com/flags.html

    Edited, Feb 2nd 2017 12:41am by Zaztik


    Thanks, added.
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    Add to Related Creatures list
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    Alekson Garn, Rhaliq Trell, and Trydan Faye should be added to the Related Creatures list since they are the quest givers for the three Trials in the Halls of Honor.
    Add to Related Creatures list
    # Jan 09 2017 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
    redriver wrote:
    Alekson Garn, Rhaliq Trell, and Trydan Faye should be added to the Related Creatures list since they are the quest givers for the three Trials in the Halls of Honor.


    Thanks, added.
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    After Killing Rallos talk to Maelin
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    After killing Rallos Zek talk to Maelin and say "I have information"; you will receive a character flag. That will turn "The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk ..." into "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate ..."

    Saying "what new lore" does nothing at this stage except produce some dialog from Maelin. I just tested it. I had two chars at the same stage.

    Edited, Dec 3rd 2016 8:39pm by Grigner
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    After Killing Rallos talk to Maelin
    # Dec 04 2016 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
    Grigner wrote:
    After killing Rallos Zek talk to Maelin and say "I have information"; you will receive a character flag. That will turn "The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk ..." into "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate ..."

    Saying "what new lore" does nothing at this stage except produce some dialog from Maelin. I just tested it. I had two chars at the same stage.

    Edited, Dec 3rd 2016 8:39pm by Grigner


    Thanks, added. Also formatted the quest a little bit to make it easier to read.
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    aa exp point from gram dunnar
    # Aug 27 2016 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
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    this post is only for the, curious of mind
    For those that remember to hail Gram Dunnar, when doing the planar progression and don't received a AA point an wonder why. I think I can answer that for ya. try spending the banked aa till your below 20. Reason is back when POP came out the max aa you could bank was 20. You will keep getting 1 aa every time you say "I will tell you stories" so long you stay below 20 aa he also stays kneeled I notice until you receive all the aa he can give ya via the flagging stage your at. He will stand, then sit once your at this point, of the aa gifts.
    he is also the same guy that advances the charm figurine which is so outdated these days
    Update to Tactics flagging
    # Oct 28 2013 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
    One thing I noticed missing from the guide was the step where you tell Maelin in the library, "I have information."

    My status at the time was: TZ, VZ, RZ all dead; I had the pack of notes comments in guided meditation for both TZ & VZ, but "your heart beats faster" from the RZ kill stuck in my "unlock my memories" at the time.
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    Hail, Grand Librarian Maelin

    Maelin tells you, 'Since we now know of the fate of Zebuxoruk I would suggest seeking those that could have had a hand in the planning and tactics of that situation. The Zeks are especially gifted at things of this nature. I would recommend trying to get any information from them that you can.'

    "I have information"

    Maelin tells you, 'This cannot be. You must hurry! Rallos Zek seems to be planing a massive raid on Norrath. He is tired of mortals overstepping their boundaries! You are the only hope! Go challenge Rallos, hurry!'
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    So I went back to the Seer for the unlock my memories and it finally corrected the stuck RZ kill flag, as you can see here:

    You say, 'unlock my memories'
    The Cipher on your arm glows for a moment, the booming voice of the Warlord rings through your ears, 'You have finally earned the right to claim you have 'defeated' me.'
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    After that, the seer's guided meditation showed "The parchments of Rallos Zek are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however..."
    and I was finally able to progress by going back to Maelin again for the "new lore" comment.
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    "I have new lore"

    Maelin tells you, 'A parchment of Rallos? Let me read it, it says that Rallos was not alone in his feelings about mortals. Solusek Ro also holds stake in the war to be led on Norrath. Not only this but he is channeling power from his father's plane into his own. He is taking that power and intensifying it through an artifact of grate power, and then focusing it onto one point. It is a detailed as a crystal that burns with all the powers of the plane of fire. It is said to have the ability to turn the face of Norrath into a charred wasteland. They plan for a manaetic behemoth to carry and deposit it upon Norrath. You must stop these plans, you must stop Solusek!'
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    Now off to kill Sol Ro, I guess.
    Update to Tactics flagging
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    Me was the same, but my failure was a nasty one.
    Missed always something even after killing Agnarr and Hailing Karana. Now I found out that:

    1. Kill Agnarr
    2. Hail Karana and say "I will follow the path of the Fallen" (!!!!)
    3. -> THEN get the Flag
    4. -> "I have new lore" to the Guy in the highest Tower
    5. -> Seer: Unlock Memories / Guided Meditation: The History translated for you revelas the fate of Zebuxoruk.....

    Woooot

    One word here, it would have been so simple....
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    # May 25 2013 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
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    I have been running my 48 sk through pop flagging. I ended up with the " The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed. " message. I ran around for 30 mins trying to fix it. I checked my logs as well to make sure I got the flags for all the kills. some were checklist flags, some are outright character flags. I then gave up and went to try and I was able to zone into Solusek Ro anyways. I had just killed RZ and gotten the checklist flag an hour ago, so maybe after I get sol ro things will even out. I did not try going into the elemental plans yet. According to how I read it, I have a problem with my RZ flag still, but as yet cannot figure it out. Librarian Maelin tells you, 'As I have told you, you must retrieve the elemental essence from each elemental plane so that we can activate the machine in the Plane of Innovation that will open a portal into the shard of time that Zebuxoruk is held.' so I camped, went to home, ran back and I am able to zone into plane of water. I am flagged EP's even though Seer tells me my RZ flag is incomplete?

    My Full Seer comments under guided meditation are :
    Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine.
    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.
    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.
    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
    Tylis has been removed from his agony.
    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.
    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.

    I will come back later if I figure it out.
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    after doing all 5 sol ro minis and killing sol ro and hailing PP, my seer comment now is :

    Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine.
    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.
    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.
    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
    Tylis has been removed from his agony.
    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
    The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind.
    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'


    so that parchments of rallos zek comment is gone. it means I was not complete elemental flagged - missing fire.
    solo
    # May 03 2013 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
    So...with the level caps where they are now, and with mercs, can the entire planar progression be soloed or can it be done with a small 2 to 4 man group?
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    I finally, finally, finally caught the Fennin Ro event up, so I can truthfully answer "yes." No alternate access, full progression as a 95 ranger, group geared from HoT and a handful of VoA items with ~4500 AAs. I can't think of another class that could solo/molo Coirnav except maybe the berserker, and chasing down all the trash makes it seem unlikely. Headshot is very necessary to put out the DPS needed. Xegony could be problematic when dealing with her trash, too.

    On a final note, Vallon in PoTime is the only POP mob I haven't solo'd. Used my healer merc the first time on both Coirnav and Quarm, but didn't need them, and the tank worked better for Coirnav on the second pass anyway. Third pass was true solo (my ultimate goal).

    Edit:

    It occurs to me now, months later, that I couldn't have used my merc on Quarm, since they're not allowed in the raid instance.

    Edited, Dec 10th 2013 2:38pm by nyteshayd
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    # May 22 2013 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
    I spent the past couple of weeks working on the planar progression. As a lv 100 Bard with 5k+ AA's with a tank merc I managed to do all of the flagging molo style. I did the progression the legit way (no alternate access quests). Nothing really hard about any of the progression. I didn't do any hails unless I needed to. But don't ignore the projections and stuff after your kills. Missing one of them hails means killing that boss/mob/god again. Your biggest bottle neck is probably other players killing the Gods which put them on a 3 day +/-12 hr respawn timer. I don't care what anyone else has posted. Killing the frog will spawn Mithaniel Marr. Best advice I can offer is putting a toon in each plane with track. Camp what you need all at the same time.

    corrections
    # Aug 05 2012 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
    Out of boredom one weekend, i decided to see if this flagging stuff still works. Used a level 52 toon i was PLing in disease anyways.

    First of all this is incorrect
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    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    Flagged for elemental planes, but have not been flagged for Fire (need Solusek Ro and 5 minis).

    What this means is that you're missing part of the Cipher, in my case it was Agnarr. It does not mean you're EP flagged as the text says, that might be the case for some combinations of missing Ciphers, but not all.
    Also the requirements for entering the elemental planes are wrong, on my test toon I've killed everything tier 3 and below, except Agnarr (missed the flag due to being too lazy to look up what to do once he's dead - go figure), so I'm 100% certain that Agnarr is required for EP, not just as part of MM quest line.

    Also after doing Aerin'Dar, my toon got refused entrance to HoH from the portal at the end of the tunnel, says something like "You do not meet the requirements to enter Halls of Honor". Clicking the portal does give a yellow flag text though, but even after my toon still got rejected. The flag worked fine when using the stones in PoTranq, so no big deal.

    Doing the three trials in Halls of Honor posed little problems, although i did have to wait for repop of Alekson Garn (villagers trial), since mine depopped midways into first named. I figure it's because room 2 and room 3 has not been agroed, and once the nameds start popping the script buggers. Solution for me was to keep a toon in each room with a merc up.
    corrections
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    CenanofBB wrote:
    Out of boredom one weekend, i decided to see if this flagging stuff still works. Used a level 52 toon i was PLing in disease anyways.

    First of all this is incorrect
    Quote:

    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    Flagged for elemental planes, but have not been flagged for Fire (need Solusek Ro and 5 minis).

    What this means is that you're missing part of the Cipher, in my case it was Agnarr. It does not mean you're EP flagged as the text says, that might be the case for some combinations of missing Ciphers, but not all.
    Also the requirements for entering the elemental planes are wrong, on my test toon I've killed everything tier 3 and below, except Agnarr (missed the flag due to being too lazy to look up what to do once he's dead - go figure), so I'm 100% certain that Agnarr is required for EP, not just as part of MM quest line.

    Also after doing Aerin'Dar, my toon got refused entrance to HoH from the portal at the end of the tunnel, says something like "You do not meet the requirements to enter Halls of Honor". Clicking the portal does give a yellow flag text though, but even after my toon still got rejected. The flag worked fine when using the stones in PoTranq, so no big deal.

    Doing the three trials in Halls of Honor posed little problems, although i did have to wait for repop of Alekson Garn (villagers trial), since mine depopped midways into first named. I figure it's because room 2 and room 3 has not been agroed, and once the nameds start popping the script buggers. Solution for me was to keep a toon in each room with a merc up.


    Did you go see whatsisface who resets your flags if they've been screwed up? After that can you confirm that you cannot enter the EP's as mentioned above? Otherwise updated for now.
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    # Aug 07 2012 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
    Seer Mal Nae'Shi (aka whathisface) is all sorted; I've been very diligent with keeping track of which flags were missing, and have gone to see her after each flag kill.
    I can confirm that the text i quoted above does not equal EP flag. The Rallos text is connected to Sol Ro, as this is the only kill the test toon is missing for entire PoP flaggage, i'm guessing the text will change to the "Rallos and Sol Ro is planning an invasion..." once Sol Ro dies.

    Anyways, after getting Aggy flag, the Rallos text remains the same, i have however now got the text about "yadda yadda learning of Zeb's fate, find the stones, yadda", and this text seems to be the actual EP flag.
    The test toon is now only missing Sol Ro and the 5 minis for complete PoP flag.
    Any exclusive reward?
    # Sep 14 2011 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
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    Seems most of PoP areas are opened since 2008, no flag needed to enter them now.
    If so, is there any reward for completion PoP progression except the charm upgrades and AA?
    Both of them are not worthy for the time now, even the loots from bosses are pretty obsoleted.

    It sounds sad, but for the content that is 8 years old, everything seems outdated.
    Is there any reason to do this progression in 2011? exclude about making some personal achievements?
    Any exclusive reward?
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    zight wrote:
    Seems most of PoP areas are opened since 2008, no flag needed to enter them now.
    If so, is there any reward for completion PoP progression except the charm upgrades and AA?
    Both of them are not worthy for the time now, even the loots from bosses are pretty obsoleted.

    It sounds sad, but for the content that is 8 years old, everything seems outdated.
    Is there any reason to do this progression in 2011? exclude about making some personal achievements?


    I cannot speak of any reason for 2011 time frame but this is definitely relevant now in 2018.
    Planar Progression is one of the requirements to complete Signet of the Arcane quest line (achievement quest=8807 and item=20379) The signet is one of the pre-quests for The Artisan's Prize https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=8120

    You must achieve Elemental planes flagging to complete the Signet.
    You need to complete Time flagging or have someone who has help you retrieve a quest item for The Artisan Wares quest.
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    After all these years, I finally got Plane of Earth B (Council) done. I went and completed the flag as normal (so, it still works).
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    completed plane of storms
    # Dec 16 2009 at 1:59 AM Rating: Good
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    noticed that the lines received for completing assisting askr in plane of storms is missing... after completing and entering into BoT.. you will get this message from guided meditation. once you have completed that step of the planar progression.

    "You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder."

    hope this gets added to the listing.
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    joebarnes wrote:
    noticed that the lines received for completing assisting askr in plane of storms is missing... after completing and entering into BoT.. you will get this message from guided meditation. once you have completed that step of the planar progression.

    "You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder."

    hope this gets added to the listing.


    Updated, thanks.
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    Back in April of 2008 they changed the level access for most of the PoP Zones.

    So it should read like this instead:

    Access to Planes of Disease, Innovation, Justice, Nightmare, and Tranquility = Levels 46 and up.

    Access to Planes of Storm, Torment, and Valor, and the Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay) = Levels 55 and up.

    Access to Torden, the Bastion of Thunder; The Halls of Honor; The Temple of Marr; Tower of Solusek Ro; Drunder, The Fortress of Zek = Levels 57 and up.

    Access to the Planes of Earth, Air, Water, and Fire = Levels 60 and up.

    Access to the Plane of Time = Levels 62 and up.
    Information
    # Feb 16 2009 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
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    Minor detail: The key phrase isn't "what information?" it's just "information"--storywise, it should be said more like, "I found information!"

    There are MULTIPLE times during progression when you must say this to Maelin, at least twice. The last time is at the end of elmental flagging, as dafdaf pointed out:

    Quote:
    With both sets of seer messages still in my chat windows I can confirm that saying 'what information' to the librarian is NOT required for elemental access (though probably needed for time access) but will update the Seer from:
    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    to:
    Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine.


    This flag is required to get the bag for the Xegony key.
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    With Sony unlocking PoP so long as you are the correct level to zone in, it's much harder to determine the state of your flags. Well shrouding does bypass this! I shrouded myself and a PoP virgin box to lvl 50, and both tried to get into the Plane of Air. I was able to, but he was not. Both characters are normally lvl 85.
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    Among my seer messages I have these two, with the Alla translations included:

    The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind.
    Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek defeated (and have all prerequisites). You are flagged to enter the Plane of Fire. The messages for the five mini-bosses disappear once you have this.

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag.


    These two translations are mutually exclusive as I can't have killed Rallos Zek but not killed Rallos Zek! Incidentally I clearly remember killing Rallos Zek, albeit a good 5 years ago. It may mean I'm missing a hail or mini kill or something else however.


    Update:
    As it turns out, I was able to determine that I was fully elemental flagged (via the shroud trick I mention above). After further investigation I discovered the missing flag! While I had said to the librarian 'what lore?', I had not yet said 'what information?'. With both sets of seer messages still in my chat windows I can confirm that saying 'what information' to the librarian is NOT required for elemental access (though probably needed for time access) but will update the Seer from:
    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    to:
    Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine.


    Edited, Feb 7th 2009 12:07pm by dafdaf
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    # Oct 19 2007 at 5:57 PM Rating: Default
    Ok... I'm trying to figure out how people are zoning in to PoFire without finishing their progression or killing fennin ro. Some of them even have major holes in flags. Did they unknowingly get willed in and confused this with PoFire flaggage. Or is there some new trick to it?
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    # Dec 04 2007 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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    There is an Alternate Access for PoFire. Through Cobalt Scar to ?western wastes? kill the named Djinn north of the biggest volcano... mob is a cake walk to a necro at 68, druids as well.. getting there was hardest... loot the heart, turn into PoFire mob in PoTranq.

    Its here on alla... alternate access quest starting in PoTranq
    PoFire
    # Dec 13 2007 at 3:27 PM Rating: Default
    hehe, you're mistaken. That's Tower of Solusek Ro alt access. But it might be part of it I think. Anyone try jumping in fire pit after ya beat Solusek Ro? By fire pit I mean the thing that takes you to PoFire from Solusek Ro's room.
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    # Jul 12 2011 at 11:45 PM Rating: Decent
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    Yeah, that does the trick (assuming prereq's.)
    crapy info
    # Apr 20 2007 at 8:24 PM Rating: Default
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    all this is fine and dandy but one would think that what 3 years or is it 4 years ... what ev. that you guys at ala would have the F,,,,, Hails and say text needed for this not just the Seeiers Text and the translation i hate spending 20 mins clicking here and there reading post and such to find the spoken text for the PoP progression Hell this is IMO BS i pay for this sight and this part of it is totaly useless to me i cant rember what is needed to say to foloow all this text wow this just blows my mind.... old **** content ... that i cant get the easy walk though but heaven forbid New shiiiiit you have the hails and all. get to work slackers read the post on your Site and put it to getther or am i just paying to have No popups and to use the search that works 40% of the time ( try searching for a Class item in a spefic zone worsk 40% or less yet remove the class and it works wow crappy codeing) i migh as well not renew my scrip been paying for year but now when i need something i have to spen more time that it taks to kill 5 pop progression mobs searching for what i need to say to the npcs wee ... you are welcome for the money
    Info
    # Jun 13 2007 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
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    This is not really just one quest. It is a series of quests that you can look up elsewhere on an individual basis (such as the related quests links).



    Edited, Aug 1st 2019 4:16am by GOMN
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    # Jun 13 2007 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
    First off Ranger Rick, you pay for this website because you choose to. 2nd, bottom of their page says "We're still missing some seer quotes for various scenarios. If you know of a missing quote and what it represents (or any errors!), please send it in to AllaKhazam." That means that maybe instead of whining on the website, go out and figure it out yourself. There's guilds that don't even look at PoP anymore but Captain Kangaroo here can't seem to do anything for himself. When PoP first came out, there was no helpers. No easy list of flagging text. There was 3 guilds racing to Time with nothing but their drive to help them. If you can't figure something out, it's YOUR fault. Not this site's, not the people who post here, yours.

    You wanna complain about how bad this site is, then you have 3 options. 1, help make it better by emailing them missing content (which is what keeps this site moving), 2 shut the hell up, or 3 make your own friggen site so the rest of us have somewhere to go when we need some one to laugh at. Stop relying on others to play the game for you and learn something on your own.
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    # Jun 08 2007 at 12:30 AM Rating: Decent
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    Think you need to type in English so they can understand what your trying to say.

    But really, why would they bother updating content that is 4 years old just for one person who has an attitude problem. Try counting to ten, breathing slowly and then speaking, might find it helps.

    Keep up the good work Alla's
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    # Jun 08 2007 at 2:11 AM Rating: Decent
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    i don't pay and i don't have pop ups
    mozilla AKA seamonkey for the win

    Edited, Jun 14th 2007 11:31am by DukeLatan
    Confirm Mith Marr message
    # Dec 30 2006 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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    I can confirm the text in red. Tonight I was piggybacked into a Mith Marr backflag raid with no trials (we killed MM easily), and got this message without having killed Agnarr.
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    confused
    # Nov 29 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
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    i keep getting
    Quote:
    The information obtained from Karana is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.
    and i cant seem to get past that, what do i do? i've hailed the librarian to no avail.

    also, i have killed agnarr and rz, so why cant i zone into poair?
    confused
    # Nov 29 2006 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
    The blurb about karana just means you've complete PoJ, PoS, and BoT. You say you've done RZ. Does that also mean you've done TZ and VZ? What about MB? You also need to have completed the Saryrn flag (PoN, PoD, CoD, and PoT).

    Further down in the comments, I've mentioned a program that you can run that will look at your flag messages (from your log file) and tell you what you still have left. Look at the ItemDataManage program on www.eq-manager.com.
    confused
    # Jan 30 2007 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent


    How neat! Thanks for your time and hard work to create your program.
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