Manaetic Behemoth  

According to the patch info April 07 2009:
*** Previously Hotfixed ***
- The Manaetic Behemoth should once again appear in the Plane of Innovation.

(Not sure the original 'hofix' date then, but regardless he should now be working again)

although alot of these posts are very helpfull, none of them say what the respawn time is for this guy , anyone know for sure what the respawn time is on MB, if you do know please send me an in game email at SOE.Saryrn.beinshady or post it here , thank you .

Duoed with 75 monk and cleric, both CoA geared but less than 700 AAs each. Cleric killed spiders on one side while Monk killed on the other, just outside of MB's room. As he becomes active the monk ran through the MB room agroing him and pulling him into the other doorway next to the cleric, and out of AE range as the spiders blow up inside the room that are coming in from the doorway left unguarded. As more spiders show up they agro the cleric and monk was able to burn down MB with the help of a few well timed Promised Renewals to keep him up.

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whats repop timer on this bastard?...raid i was on a few days ago wiped and he wasnt back up yesterday...someone said its supposed to be 3-4 hr repop.....any one know for sure?

Killed him on Tribunal just a few hours ago, dropped 2 of the hammers. Got everybody flagged for PoTactics and gratz to the winners of the hammers.

Just did this with 40 people. We had only one chanter who was in charge of Runing the MT. Honestly you dont need chanter's on the raid. Just a strong tank (pref pally or sk) that can aggro multiple mobs....the DPS group can get any adds that sneak by....MB should fall within 2 min or so after engage..just keep the MT alive and you will win

Some info on the gnome.

First, I have timed planar projections that appear on other mobs. Without fail, the PP despawns after ten minutes. This holds if someone hails the instant the PP pops, if no one hails at all, or any combination inbetween.

The gnome who pops after MB's death is different, though. On several raids I've been on, the gnome stayed up longer than ten minutes.

Yesterday, I led a successful raid against MB. When the gnome popped, I asked a necro to tag him, pull him into the corridor, and FD. (I was low on monks. ) As we were dealing with flags and finishing off the remaining aggro spiders, someone again aggroed the gnome, and I had that person die (he didn't have FD). I hung around to see how long the gnome would stay up.

By my logs, the gnome stayed up about 27 minutes after Behe's death. I don't know if this is because we aggroed the gnome twice (which may have reset the timer), or if he always stays up an extended period of time.

My guild can take down Guardian of the Seal in the Hole easy I know he is a lvl70 mob.

My question is I see MB is lvl70 how much harder is he, or if we can take down GotS we can do MB?

the gnome that spawns DOES NOT stay around forever like some believe. Even if you don not hail, he WILL depop after 10 minutes. A PU raid I was on found this out the other night. Afet BEHE went down, no one hail him and he depoped as we were finishing the spiders. So, if you expcet him to hang around, don't. Obviously he has better things to do. =)

Just lead a raid against him on Mith Marr. It is actually pretty simple. A few rules for MB are:
1) Put pet classes in spider groups (learned this the hard way) because some of them don't want to kill of their precious dogs and cats and pets vs MB = wipe.
2) Monks / Rogues should go with spiders too, as they hit more for melee than by throwing things at him.
3) A good spider group should look something like this: 1 Cleric, 1 Tank, 1 Enchanter, 3 DPS (NO rangers or wizzies on spiders)
4) 4 Spider groups, NE, NW, SE, SW. None in the two middle rooms.
5) Have a group of extra DPS to assist spider groups that get overwhelmed.
6) When MB spawns, wait at least 10-15 seconds for your MT to get aggro.
7) Nobody accept MT should be in e room with MB.
8) Again on spiders.. those groups should be at least 55+ on tank, cleric, and chanter.
9) MT for MB needs at LEAST 9k hp, 10.5k is a great number though.
10) Healers should have MT targeted while waiting for MB, When MB becomes argetable, ALL healers should cast quick heal spells (Cheal = BAD)

Anyways, as long as these rules are followed, and everyone listens to the RL, things should go smooth. Once again, pet at MB = wipe. BTW my raid failed because of a pet hehe. I will attempt again, and if anyone has a suggestion or two, post away. =)

no matter what you have said this guy is impossible=D,tried him 11 times with friggin retards that stick pets on him before we are ready.MB ran over and silenced all of our caster.we died very quickly

Well me along with about 67 others got messed over today. Was a pickup raid in POT for this guy. Took us 3 hours to get everything together and we finnally took him out. Then we had some noobs ninja his loot, then overhail the gnome. Then went ld and couldn't get a invite to try and hail him for the flag.

There is 3 hours of my life Id like to have back *sighs*.

Since there is a slew of posts here with various strategies, my 2cp will be to affirm something:

MEZZ those spiders. Bring all the chanters you can. Keep them that way until you have dealt with MB or you will more than likely wipe.

Now, I realise many (if not most) flag raids are open pick-up affairs, and since they often end up being rather large... the temptation for blood-and-guts types is to just charge in, and try to nail the spiders at the same time as they engage the Behemoth. I personally consider that to be asking for a wipe... it would be like having everyone charge at Aerin D'Arr: you are dealing with some nasty AE's in this fight, and you should do everything you can to keep the situation from becoming desperate. Get as many chanters and ranged attackers as you can. And save some MGB's for the fight if you can.

Amongst many little sayings I have, this one applies well here: Control the game, do not allow the game to control you. <<wink>>

Now for some RAID TIPS...

Kill spiders until you can target this freak. No one should be in the room with the Behemoth except your MT. Absolutely no one... in fact, NO ONE needs to be in there AT ALL if you bring enough ranged attackers, which is the only way I would do this. Melee classes can help nail any stray spiders that may possibly get past the spider groups. No matter what, do not let any spiders get into the room where the MB is.

Casters and Rangers shine on this one. Everyone gather outside the door, in the hallway where the spiders path. Healers keep MT targeted... be ready to spam him with fast-casting heals as soon as the fight with the Behemoth begins.

Again... have a few groups who are totally dedicated to dealing with the spiders. These things give off a nasty blast when they die sometimes, so those groups should each have a mezzer and a couple of healer types. Pet classes also nice for those groups if you KEEP YOUR PETS UNDER CONTROL. Once the Behemoth becomes targetable, mezz the remaining spiders and keep them that way until the Behemoth is dead.

Just have someone keeping the door open to his room so you can all attack him from out in the
hallway with ranged attacks. Have Bards sing their various regeneration songs. Be sure that
everyone is nicely buffed up with hitpoints and resists. So long as you manage to keep the MB in one place, and away from the main raid force, it should not be very difficult to chop him down with ranged attacks. Wizards and other nukers can start blasting away once aggro has been firmly established. Just KEEP YOUR DISTANCE.

After the Behemoth dies, finish off the spiders if you wish. Drag the Gnome NPC around (see below) to each of the spider groups so that they can quickly hail him, and get their flag. Main raid force should quickly hail him right after Behemoth dies and as soon as the Raid Leader says to do so... then have a Monk FD pull the NPC to each spider group in turn.

Once everyone has gotten their flag, have a Wizard cast a mass Translocate to bind ("Teleport" spell) on the raid, and everyone can get out safely and cleanly.

Once you get your flag, go back to the Plane of
Tranquility, and zone in to Tactics (far right
stone in that cave). Then go back to PoK, and
get your free AA point (yay..!!!) from the dwarf in the bldg near the Soulbinder (say to him "I will tell you stories").

If you are there for loot, be sure you have all of that straightened out before you engage, so
as to make it quick once he is down.


~ Kj

Edited, Mon May 31 07:23:21 2004

well what i have concluded is the following;

1. have one group at each corner to take care of spiders.
2. have chanter in every group
3. have rest of raid engage and kick his ass
4. all healers use any heal cept Cheal
5. get lots of dps to make it go quicker
6. after he goes down have monk fd pull him to entrance of poi.

ok, now i've never done a behemoth raid before but i'm leading one next week =/. i'm talented u could say with leading raids but i do have a few quesitons. a) should i have a cleric in each group constatnly doing group heal and all druids and extra clerics healing main tank, and with wut, rotating cheals or just mass heals? i don't think i'm going ot have alot of clerics with MGB on raid, thats wut i'm thinkin b) i never really understood when it comes to the restis part of spells but about how much resits does one need in order to resits his dot, says like -150 wutever category, fire,cold, poison, disease? c) how much damage do spiders do if they get through and are they constatnly non stop coming till u leave his room? d)and like is thier one spider that comes eveyr 15 seconds or something? thnx for all info u guys can provide

To clear a few things up nice and pretty for people who get confused reading some of the nonsence here.

Behemoth starts out untargetable. He has a timer that resets every time one of the clock work spiders blows up in his room. You must keep all spiders out of his room for the length of the timer. once timer is up he becomes targetable and ready to kill.

That said while killing him you still need to keep the spiders out of his room because of their AE when they blow up.

MB himself hits for max of 818 that i saw could be higher. has a knockback so try to find a good wall put ur back to. Has multiple AE's that you can look up here. Has very few hp around 150k like previously said. just get him targetable and kill him fast. AE's will hurt your raid force and low health agro ping pong = bad for dps

We killed him with only 2 deaths... We had 4 groups killing spiders non-stop, then we had all the rest attack MB the leader told us what he expected us to do all before hand and repeated his instructions a few more times. I was in an assault group as a 53 Bst the fight didnt last more than 2 minutes max. i lost my pet during the beginning, there was a bunch of nuking, which didnt start until 15 seconds after the fight had begun, which i think helped keep Aggro on the MT i was kinda worried at the beginning... but it turned out great. As long as everyone knows what their supposed to do... it should go good..

Does he have any specific resists (magis, fire...) ?

This is how we tried to do MB. Had a few groups set up in corridors where the spiders path through, each of the spider groups had a healer and a chanter at least. The rest of the raid stood at the main door. When MB became targetable everyone ran to kill him except for the chanter in each of the corridors and thier backup healer. Chanters mass mezzed the spiders as they came through. The rest of the raid rushed in and beat on MB. Sounds like a good plan but we failed, some reasons why we failed which anyone reading this should learn from...

First off, patch heals are the way to go if you try to CH you will fail. Everyone should be taking a lot of damage not just the MT. The whole fight should last under a minute so dont worry about anyone going OOM.

Second, main tank keep MB in position dont try to move him you will lose DPS from the melee following you around, making the fight longer, taking more DoT damage. Casters should try to stay outside the door so if you move MB you will probably take the mob and everyone inside the room out of casting range exposing your casters to silence and other nasty things when they try to go in.

Third, double up on CC. Dont rely on one chanter to mez the spiders coming down one corridor, you need backup. In our fight one of the chanters went LD when we engaged so we were totally exposed from that side. Do it any way you can, get another chanter or a bard to mez, have someone root, or just try to keep them under control and kill them all. Do anything to keep them from going in the room if even one gets through that could mean the end of the raid.

Fourth, MGB Heals are very important. When the MB becomes targetable signal your cleric/druid/beastlord to cast thier MGB HoT's on the main raid force *before* they go in the room then you can run in and kill him.

In all, even though we failed at this guy for doing everything above the wrong way we got him down to 27% pretty fast. His melee is laughable, and it seems he doesnt have a lot of HP. If you can cover all the stuff like I said above then its not that hard to kill the Behometh.

4 Different versions of him can spawn, will spawn randomly with only 1 of the following AE's
Gas Leak http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1080&source=Live
Liquid Hydrokill http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1083&source=Live
Biomelt IX http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1082&source=Live
Deathfog IV http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1081&source=Live

And always proc these 3
Wave of White Noise http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1079&source=Live
Gyrosonic Disruption http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1078&source=Live
Mana Beam http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1077&source=Live

Could anyone give me any strategies for leading the mega raid to Kill behemoth?

I am wanting to lead the mega raid to get flagged.

so far i see that i need probably 10 groups of 60 plus chars..
6 for behemoth and 4 for the spiders

any ideas on startegiges? do i do a cch on MA or do i split clerics up amoung groups?

please help any strategies would be helpfull

He cast Silence also that stopes you from casting anything

Once you've killed the bish, have a monk pull the flag mob outta the room and FD. It works! $$