Echo Caverns

July 2014
Echo Caverns consists of two areas.

LOWER which is very near the zone into Shadowhaven from Plane of Knowledge and is behind a wall that you just walk through. Tends to be good from mid teens if your careful. Needlites are like giant Mosquitos that hit a lot but not very hard so any damade shield helps a lot. Then work up through Boglings. The walls have a plant like tentacle sticking out that can root and drain some HP. In the main Needlite cave you can sit in the front left safely and just clear the room for good experinece and some loot. If your using a mercenary then this area becomes much easier, a tank or healer would be great.

Breaking some of the areas can be challenging though.

HIGHER you get to this by moving in oposite direction m lower area when you zone into shadowhaven, and it is a tunnel of to the left that is reasonably clear - no secret enterances.

You get better experience here and tougher mobs. Umberhulks ( bugs ) , animated rockmonsters that drop enough coins to cover mercenary costs and fiends that are a bit of a pain but good experience.
Main problem is breaking the camps unless you are about level 45 in which case you can pull pretty easily no matter what. This is a zone for groups of mid 20 to solo at higher 30 combat. After 40 or so you can pull skeleton slaves that extend the zone and a ginat snake leader. Watchout if you get a thought horror pop as they are nasty and will charm and turn you on your friends. They do despawn after a while.
You can go easily to level 45 here allowing senior buffs to stick ( KEI etc) but unless oloing and churning through very quickly other zones are better. I went to Gulthank after level 45 with mercanery.

I got some coins, some vendor trash from mobs and some bits of defiant armour, mainly lower than than I needed but i guess the loot tables set for lower level groups rather than higher solo/molo.

Back in the lower are there is a hidden evil traing camp to the left as you zone in, click on the wall ( or U) and it moves across. I didnt hunt in here as didnt know about it. Some trainers MOBS are very very tough so be careful.

In higher is also a Gnome area you can hunt for higher expierience but again I know little of this.

I rarely saw anyone in these zones.. very few wandering mobs good steady exp and ok basic loot.

So, the plant is considered a trap? Do the Reebo spell work on it? I've never found a use for them, so I have no idea how they work.

anyone know at what rate the mushroom called the great saprophyte respawns? the room with four boggling cultist?

As I remember, General drops an ornate sword that most 1hs melee drool over. The General is behind the secret wall to evil vendors cave. He is in the far back building with the caster trainers.

Heres how I remember takin him down:

1: Get 2 groups of 55+ with one tank must be min. 59 and Chanter 59+

2: Park both groups far back left wall outside aggro range of the Melee trainers. There will be an obvious niche where the groups put there back up against.

3: Have 59+ tank in full base 100+ spell MR. The caster trainers will try to root you once you tag General.

4: run from General and his 2 Ascounds back to the waiting groups. Keep him near the wall, not in it away from the trainer building. You cant kill Marshal and don't need extra Ascounds.

5: Have Chanter mez both Ascounds that came with Genreal. Doing nothing but keeping them mezzed.

6: Most important: 59+ tank must hold aggro the whole time. Let him beat on General for a couple min.s both everyone jumps in. Wait for Tank to call it. General has 50k+ Hp

7: Kill General, loot the no drop, finish off both Ascounds. With out Aggroing trainers in the build next to camp.



If I missed anything please add to it.

I just dinged lvl 30 and my pet and I rock the place (as long as i have KEI and AEGO). Whether I kill mutants or bogglings I always use Screaming Terror to pull with; as it allows me to erase aggro and kill one mob at a time. (They haven't aggro'd singly yet) I DOT the mobs and then DD them while my pet is tanking. The mutants resist my Shock of Poison everytime, but the bogglings take normal damage from it tho. The xp here is very nice.

I think if one doesn't have uber buffs a group would be necessary for at least three or four more levels as these guys can really wail on ya.

If anyone is on Veeshan server and looking for a group send me a tell.

Yesterday a small group of a L40 cleric, L38 bard and L38 paladin did the Fireclaw room near the zone to The Deep and when our cleric had KEI, we had almost non-stop action and very good experience.

Paladins and clerics are perfect here because of their Soothe/Pacify line of spells which allow them to pull single mobs. There are NO wandering monsters here so its very easy to set up camp near the entrance and pull to there without fear of adds. We only got adds once when a mob resisted the soothe and a quick fear sent him out of harms way. In about 6 hours of this, this only happened once and was easily dealt with.

Fireclaw and Trilcor can be tough but with FM on the cleric can be handled. We found that chain stuns cast by the cleric decreased the attack rate of both dramatically.

Later with the addition of a L43 paladin, we solo'd the TM room without a problem too. The TM room is made for paladins and clerics with all the undead there.

Before I commit my small Halfling body to this thing, I'd like to know what's waiting for me. Where does it take me and who's on the other end?
Also, just an aside, I notice no one has posted much about the EC level that leads from Short and Stout in Shadow Haven. Doesn't anything go on there? Doesn't it lead anywhere? I'm there right now myself and I'll find out some things on my own, but I'd love some more experienced players' input.

someone tole me that u can lvl here form lvl 25 to lvl 50

You think anybody can find a group here lvls 32-39? Getting sick of sitting in Katta/Tenebrous/Twilight area praying for a group =)

Edited, Sun Mar 24 21:36:12 2002