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Fireclaw Talons  

Lore Item Placeable
Skill: Hand to Hand Atk Delay: 26
DMG: 8 Dmg Bonus: 33
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
Effect: Fireclaw (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 37
WT: 2.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: MNK BST
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:Martial
Merchant Value:5 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Proc Rate:105%
Submitted By:Vhoghul Vondhum
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 06:59:31
Page Updated:Mon Sep 9th, 2019

Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin

Average Price: No Data Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 45

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This item is found on creatures.

Echo Caverns
NPC Name

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Zone Name
Echo Caverns

Uploaded September 9th, 2019 by stickleback
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# Apr 16 2005 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
i dont know if they changed this or what but i sware it could be used by a warrior today when it droped bye
# Sep 09 2019 at 6:08 AM Rating: Excellent
129 posts
Updated stats picture, just MNK/BST useable
This Doesnt Proc before lvl 30!!!
# Mar 08 2004 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
People my say that this procs at lvl 1 , but i am lvl 30 using it and it doesnt proc!
RE: This Doesnt Proc before lvl 30!!!
# Dec 11 2004 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
Actually I just bought this for 50 plat in the bazaar and it does say it procs at lvl 37.
RE: This Doesnt Proc before lvl 30!!!
# Mar 12 2004 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
70 posts
This weapon procs at level 37 according to Lucy.
RE: This Doesnt Proc before lvl 30!!!
# Aug 12 2004 at 11:01 AM Rating: Default
Well from the look of it, I'd guess it would be the level to attain number listed, which is 45
RE: This Doesnt Proc before lvl 30!!!
# Feb 02 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
its not the level to attain, thats just a recommended level to try to get this item, This is the bst/monk version of the short sword of ykesha which procs at 37 so i would assume that this would proc at the same level.
# Feb 07 2004 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
This has a 5% increased chance to proc over the default proc rate of weapons (according to unknown070 value).
RE: 5%
# Feb 08 2004 at 1:41 AM Rating: Decent
5%, Giving credit, where credit is due.
RE: 5%
# Jul 12 2005 at 11:11 AM Rating: Default
What magnificent irony is that that there's already a shadowknight with "Jinn" somewhere in his name.

I think mine is far more clever, however.

Just wasting time, no need to listen to me.
Fireclaws rotting in Echo
# Apr 09 2003 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
Hello all!,

I have been fighting in Echo Caverns for sometime. Very often this item is left to rot on the Fireclaw as it is a Lore Item.

Recommend you zone into hard side of Echo and wait especially on a Friday or Saturday. You will also be able to get a Fireclaw Carapace as well as an Orb of echo ore.

As long as you are patient.

Obviously these weren't nerfed, they were *fixed*.
# Jan 20 2003 at 11:40 PM Rating: Default
308 posts
Having a weapon that has no required level, and has a 75dd proc at level 1, is obviously overpowered and broken, no matter what damage or delay it is. These claws are so similar to Ykesha weapons, that it shouldn't surprise anyone that they would have a similar level requirement to proc. Smiley: oyvey

I'm still trying to get "Common Sense" to drop in-game, but apparently it's an ultra rare spawn from "a common player". I wish somebody would fix the drop rate, but if they did, "a common player" would probably cry "NERF!" about that too. Smiley: rolleyes
RE: Obviously these weren't nerfed, they were *fixed*.
# Nov 18 2003 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
There is no required level to do full damage but the proc DOES require a certain level, I was wondering what that level is. Anyone know. And who cares about the drop rate, you can buy em in the bazaar for cheap =)

Edited, Tue Nov 18 09:59:56 2003
RE: Obviously these weren't nerfed, they were *fixed*.
# Oct 19 2003 at 11:02 AM Rating: Default
like all the time complaining about drops and whatever just play the game by what ever the rules just quit all the whiningwhining god all might all the is whinning on these sights
RE: Obviously these weren't nerfed, they were *fixed*.
# Nov 17 2003 at 11:05 PM Rating: Default
RE: Obviously these weren't nerfed, they were *fixed*.
# Apr 09 2003 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
3,705 posts

200 damage DoT, and slow. Procs at lvl 1

9/19 ratio and stats.

Its no like weapons with better procs at lvl 1 aren't already in the game.
The proc!
# Nov 16 2002 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
574 posts
My 40 BL has these and as you rightly said they begin to proc at 37. and they proc more often the higher you get. i would be lucky to see them proc once every 15mins at 37 now they proc up to 5 times a fight.

they are a decent wpn for a non twink like me, but the price is way of. you can pick these up in the bazaar for 20pp if someone wants to try and scam you. i got mine of a mate so im happy!!

anyways any beasts on Veeshan send Maylian a tell if you need a hand and ill be happy to sort you out.
The Real Iksar

RE: The proc!
# Dec 02 2002 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
When the website says Level to attain 45. That means that unless you are uber twinked or get the items through sale, friend (whatever) you will need to be level 45 (probably grouped) to get these by killing the mob. Level to attain doesnt mean the level that they proc.
Just to help those that do not read the discriptions properly

/bow thx for your time

Edited, Mon Dec 2 20:50:39 2002
RE: The proc!
# Dec 06 2002 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
574 posts
fully agree, but i managed to take Fireclaw as part of a twosome with a Pally, recquired some good timing and playing but wasnt as bad as i thought it would be.

anyways is a nice wpn 75pt proc and allows me to hit for mid 30's. just wish it was a bit faster but then life is full of things we cant have
The Real Iksar

RE: The proc!
# Jun 19 2003 at 9:50 PM Rating: Default
like Pamela Anderson. Anyway, I was just grouped with a 37 pally (I am 35 at this time) and we had little prob with Fireclaw, I wasn't touched and he got down to half. I have no idea why the level to attain says 45... Anyway, just some info about this guy being easy. Flame on! *whoosh*
Very Nice Proc
# Oct 04 2002 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
I use this as my primary and a centi hammer as secondary. I have gotten the claw to proc 3 times in one fight so far. The proc level is 37. As long as you keep the warder's haste pumped up - U will fly thru the levels.
Not That Bad
# Jul 17 2002 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
1,262 posts
Look at the stats. Nearly the same as the SSOY (which is 8/24 proc 75DD plus 0 sec stun) which also procs starting at level 37. Now my 42 rogue with 133 DEX sees the SSOY proc about 1 or 2 times per fight weilding it in his off hand. Working the numbers thats about 11% chance of the weapon proc'ing on any given strike. Then there is the resist check.

My own conclusion is that the FCT is not that great for monks. Run the numbers and Polished Steel Ulaks are just slightly better for overall consistant damage output.

The question is, do beastlords use the same hand to hand combat tables and damage delay ratios that monks use? If the beastlord is on a lower hand to hand rating then the FCTs would be quite good for beastlords.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 13 2002 at 11:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Its simple why verant nerfs items lie Venom axe and ssoy...u guys are retarted u ***** about. Oh why did verant nerf this blah blah blah ok look this is why
proc level
# May 04 2002 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
man i just got one of these for my monk and figrured it would proc in the mid to upper 20's. come to find out varant has made yet another useless weapon and cost me 300p for a peice of trash. Thanks varant.

RE: proc level
# Nov 14 2002 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
300pp? Got mine for 20pp :)
RE: proc level
# May 29 2003 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
"300pp? Got mine for 20pp :)" Well, when you respond SIX MONTHS after the post, prices are sure to come down! Obviosuly they're cheap now because PSUs are better and you have to wait for the talons to proc at like 37 or something, dont think anyone wants to use this for that long just to proc 75 once every five fights.
RE: proc level
# Mar 11 2003 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
Got mine for free. killed the bugger
500 tops
# Apr 25 2002 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
These talons have suffered the same fate as the SSOY. Not willing to pay more then 500 for them.
# Mar 14 2002 at 8:19 PM Rating: Default
Ok. How the poo can these get nerfed and the venom axe doesnt? thats a pile of shizwack.
# Feb 07 2004 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
I agree, and spent several minutes laughing about it too...
# Sep 16 2002 at 2:20 PM Rating: Default
54 posts
Shizwack is easily one of the best words...ever.
Price ?
# Feb 23 2002 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
I traded the Orb off the Snake Guy in next room to a guildmate Cleric for one of these. 1500 PP?... Not on Quelious. I ask 150 PP for them and get laughed at. Any of you out there paying 1500 for them give me a tell. What is the SERIOUS going rate on these now?
Fireclaws Nerfed
# Feb 19 2002 at 7:49 PM Rating: Good
This has been nerfed to proc at Level 37 now. The stats aren't all that great and it only procs a 75 DD spell.

Current max price is 1K and falling.

Edited, Tue Feb 19 19:50:00 2002
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 23 2002 at 12:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) proc at lvl 10 folks
RE: Level 10
# Jan 29 2002 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
If it procs at lvl 10, my lvl 15 beastlord would be able to proc it. So i don't think it procs at lvl 10.
Verant strikes again.
# Jan 18 2002 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
What a complete ripoff, this weapon was sweet one to have before the Wu's started procing, now it's just another piece of crap to toss out with the rest of the trash. You get better dmg from using your bare fists.
Re: Proc
# Jan 12 2002 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
They proc at 37 now? Was a shock for a poor monk who was used to seeing these things proc 4 to 5 times a fight to suddenly have them stop working.....thought the batteries had worn out, hehe.

Edited, Sat Jan 12 00:11:31 2002
Isn't Level 37 A Bit High For Proc?
# Jan 11 2002 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
I would figure these would be a Level 30 proc weapon due to the 8 damage and 26 delay.

It's a bummer though that these got nerfed. I'm now finding out what a hassle it is to level a 14 Beastlord when the only good place to hunt is Hollowshade.

I bought my pair for 1K while I was level 2 and it was da bomb! LOL!

Edited, Fri Jan 11 12:09:08 2002
# Jan 08 2002 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
as of patch on 1/8/02 talons will no longer proc for my lvl 28 beastlord. do not at this time know what lvl they will start proc'ing again.
# Jan 13 2002 at 2:02 PM Rating: Default
263 posts
The silent nerf bat strikes again. I really thought these would stay low on the level to proc. The icegrinder was still proccing at level 1 a couple weeks ago (haven’t used it for a while); same as it had been for the past year.

/nod, 37 is way too high for this. It is primary hand only, poor dam/delay for the level, and there are many alternatives to this.

Edit Stuff:

I submitted feedback to Verant on this. If you want to have an impact on the game, use the /feedback command or a regular email. Be certain that you are articulate and concise; that will add credibility to your complaint. I made the suggestion that this should be pri or sec with a dam/delay ratio of at least 2.5 and/or a level 25 proc.

Edited, Thu Jan 31 13:21:07 2002
# Jan 09 2002 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
I wouldn't say the weapon price should be reduced. The Tranq Staff has a similiar proc and damage output. This weapon should easily be good through level 45 or so, giving a Monk a proc for about 10 levels at least, and will always be a nice weapon for a Beastlord IMHO.

It's just a shame that we are so stupid and post about these weapons openly on boards that Verant monitors. They see these posts about a weapon procing a 75dd at level 1 and BANG - Nerf. Heaven forbid there might be a weapon that gives a noobie an edge. Oh well, such is life.

Feelsgood Rezzman
58th Cleric of the Dark Family
# Jan 10 2002 at 2:31 AM Rating: Decent
19 posts
The problem is that there are now better and much cheaper weapons for those below level 37. Polished steel ulaks come to mind.

Once you hit level 37, you can likely afford better weapons than this, thus driving down the price.

I certainly don't want to see that happen, as I happen to have one, but I'm also willing to be honest about it.
# Jan 09 2002 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
19 posts
You're right, which I'm afraid probably reduces the value of this weapon.

It now procs at level 37.
# Jan 09 2002 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
I can confirm this stopped procing for me at level 36, dinged 37 and is procing again.
Not for high level monks
# Jan 02 2002 at 10:38 AM Rating: Default
This is just my opinion.
I ran around with this for a week and noticed two things. Though the proc is nice, it barely makes up for the slow delay and damage (compared to fists), and its a bit heavier than a fist. I ended up twinking it over to my beastlord, and he rocks with it.

If you add all the the fist hits with the time it takes to cast the proc, you probably get about 200 points of damage from a fist.

Like I said, just my opinion.
Will they ever drop for me???
# Dec 28 2001 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
I've killed this guy countless times with guildies and some new friends from Freedom Fighter, thanks guys, and have yet to see the Talons drop.

Then when I leave the group late one night he dropped the Talons 2 times, just my luck. >=/

Back to camping him I guess.

Lochru Silvermist
51 Druid of the Mystic Runners
7th Hammer
RE: Will they ever drop for me???
# Dec 31 2001 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
Well, we decided to hit Fireclaw hard this weekend and not only did we get 1 Talons, but at least 7 throughout the weekend. Yay!

Also killed the super nasty named spawn that pops sometimes where the Taskmaster does and we got the hella nice boots from him. Check out my post under his bistiary description for more info on this guy.

Lochru Silvermist
51 Druid of the Mystic Runners
7th Hammer
Yay, nicey proc
# Dec 25 2001 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
The proc is VERY nice, my beastlord obtained this from a guildie hunting in echo caverns, I got this for only 15 peridots! YAY!! Thats only about 200pp while most people are paying 2k... anyway the proc starts at lvl 1 and gave me a huge fright when I was hunting a little scorpion, yellow to me, was about to die. Suddenly this huge burst of flame came off my hands and ignited the scorp and saved my life hehe. 75dmg at lvl 1, still 75dmg at lvl 9. I am very glad I bought this, I think I'll use it until I get something very uber, it'll take the place of my reinforced claws when I get them grr, I've already failed 10 times making leather strappings for them.... and I need two..... oh well, good luck to everyone trying to grab this uber procing lvl 1 Powerlvling claw!
Talons do indeed...ummm...ROCK!
# Dec 22 2001 at 5:50 PM Rating: Default
I was finally able to get a pair last night. I slew Fireclaw 6 times and looted the Carapace 5 times and the claws on the sixth. They strike for 75 points when full hit and I imagine starts at level one as hit it hit twice in a row the first time my level 12 beastlord tried them. Imagine Grexel Drah's (sp?) surprise when the litle ole green Barbarian whacked him for 178 points in his first TWO hits! Muwhahahaha! Deffinately worth 2k and it procs ALOT more than my Trance stick. Odd point on that, my BST has a dex of 91 and it procs at least once a fight. My Monk has a dex of 143 and his Wu might, MIGHT, proc once every 3 fights. Curious.
# Dec 21 2001 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
I am 34 monk on Prexus and I just got one of these. I have been using it to kill avocets in SK. The proc is only partially resisted about 1/3 of the time.
RE: Rocks
# Dec 21 2001 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
Can you tell us how many kills it took to obtain? I know this isn't completely accurate but may help a little on determining their rarity
RE: Rocks
# Dec 29 2001 at 11:27 PM Rating: Decent
Just had him pop on us while camping the taskmaster. killed Fireclaw and the talons dropped. MoB looks just like a large underbulk, and can confirm that they proc 75dd at lvl one, and proc quite a bit. Not a hard Mob to kill either. Me and a level 40 Cleric were able to kill it without much trouble.

-==Krellian Ironheart==--
Dedicated Warrior of the Tribunal of Norrath
41 Seasons journeyed
RE: Rocks
# Dec 27 2001 at 8:19 PM Rating: Default
We killed Fireclaw 2 times in 1 afternoon and he had this both times. I got one, gonna make a monk now. Of course i had a 54 monk and a 40 druid beside me -didnt solo it.

Ravenia Dragoonslayerr
41st Rank Soldier of God
Paladin of the Angels of the Mist
RE: Rocks
# Dec 22 2001 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
Actually I can't. I bought this puppy off of a 51 ranger named Chases on prexus for 1700pp. =(
Claws rare or Carapace
# Dec 21 2001 at 3:02 AM Rating: Decent
I hunted Fireclaw for about 4 hours tonight and slew him trice. Each time I looted a Fireclaw Carapace and never once saw the Talon, the item I was seeking. I believe the Talons to be the rare and the back piece the common. If anyone on Mith Marr has one fore sale/trade, please send me a /tell in game.


Allaron Mystweaver
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