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Scars of Velious
yes, I got 4 from AoW just minutes ago. What a shocker.
Could a 76 mage with no SoD take him out?
I might be able to have a friend help but idk which one would so=/
If i could solo him itd be great but i doubt it.
I might be able to have a friend help but idk which one would so=/
If i could solo him itd be great but i doubt it.
You're a bit low.....
.....My Lv.77 Zerker has a time with the Vindicator (easily take him down, but its slow go and merc LOM). But, If you brought your friend, you should have absolutely no problems. At 76, you MIGHT be able to solo him, but he's 3/3 of the spawns, so you have 2 more before him that you'll need to kill.
He is, although, on a 7-day spawn timer
.....My Lv.77 Zerker has a time with the Vindicator (easily take him down, but its slow go and merc LOM). But, If you brought your friend, you should have absolutely no problems. At 76, you MIGHT be able to solo him, but he's 3/3 of the spawns, so you have 2 more before him that you'll need to kill.
He is, although, on a 7-day spawn timer
I was casually browsing through the bazaar, looking for an upgrade for my main, and a friend pointed out to me a BoC. I had a quick look in baz list, and lo and behold, i found one for 2.5k. I know that sounds unlikely, but its true. I snapped it up and gave it to my alt warrior - 3 at the time. I tore through mob after mob with that :) Very nice sword
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I have bought this wep on Stromm for 60k call it a lucky day i guess but oh well i have kinda out grew it with my 68 warrior so i use it sometimes.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Level_75 Class_Shadowknight Race_Gnome Guild_<Black Dragon Legion>
Sir Salibus of Stromm
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Sir Salibus of Stromm
I have heard rumors that the next round of fabled mobs will come from Velious zones. I can only imagine what a Fabled Blade of Carnage might look like....
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I see. Well, I look forward to getting that fabled on my pally, but can you imagine how crowd'd it'd be to even see the mob? It'll be insane. Btw, nice Cleric, Xaanru.
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be a long time before that ever becomes Fable'd.
They already did fabled AoW, he dropped the ring, not the sword. Next up is fabled Luclin.
I really think Allas needs to update the AoW here, since GoD, OoW, DoN, all the old world mobs have become like a joke anymore. MPG or RS is more of a challenge than this guy is.
On behalf of the entire Drinal server, I would just like to apologize for so-and-so's cockiness, and just overall terrible attitude. Sorry we're not all 1337 and teh uber like you. Feel free to go solo the AoW with one hand tied behind your back now.
Laeliya - 46th season ranger - Drinal Server
- "May Tunare bless and keep the...jerkwad."
Laeliya - 46th season ranger - Drinal Server
- "May Tunare bless and keep the...jerkwad."
Sorry for the multiple posts. IE glitched up on me.
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Scholar
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What exactly is your point? The only reference Allak even makes on this page to the guy that drops it is that it's a raid mob - are you suggesting they drop the raid mob status of AOW?
I'm sure he'll be asking them to do the same for Quarm in another 3 years and 6 expansions.
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got this beast for my 54 warrior, that and a Copper hammer of striking that i will b etting rid of soon, both BoC and CHoS proc atleast 2 times per mob ......havent lost agrro yet. PS dex str sta and agility are at 305
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If you are a 54 Warrior how do you have 305 Dex, Str, Sta, and Agility?
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prolly with buffs.. lmfao
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Posted: Jan 21 2005 at 6:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i should get one of these
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Always use the BoC over Sotbs cause u will still do more dmg. Im usein BoC and Split-Blade of Destruction and the BoC procs a lot if its in ur Primary hand.
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I've finally aquired a BoC, i've worshipped them when they came out but because of work i can never dedicate to EQ. Well i finally have one and am discouraged by the proc rate it dishes when used with SotBS i can see 5 kills go w/o 1 proc, where as SotBS in primary and Frostbringer in sec. i sometimes looks like a fireworks display gone out of control per kill logic tells me to stick with that combo if i want to say HEY Mr. Mob forget me NOT *BOOM*, but i desire to use the BoC. Well i also have a Scepter of Destruction, and with it in the Primary BoC procs more now like it senses the SoD and responds accordingly. There's only 1 dly diff. in the SoD vs. SotBS but at times i'd like to use the SotBS for it's saves it has but not so if the BoC will not respond, what's factors in weapons deciding when to proc when combo'd with another weapon, on my DEX side with potions and food i can hit 245.
weapon affinity 5 (WA 5): 50% more procs. with 255 dex you get about 2 proc main hand and 1 proc off hand a minute (higher dex has no more effect on proc). with WA 5 you get 3 procs main hand, 1.5 proc secondary per minute. with extra aug in each weapon 6 procs main hand 3 proc secondary.
thats 9 procs per minute (about 6.66 seconds between procs, forgiving the randomness of it)
thats 9 procs per minute (about 6.66 seconds between procs, forgiving the randomness of it)
try throwing a secondary proc on there. i'm assuming your a warrior, or you wouldnt want this to proc, if thats the case, put an anger3 on it. 700/600 agro procs. my cord hilted spike driver procced like crap until i threw an a3 on it, now its wonderful.
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We did him for almost 2 months straight about a year ago and if u have the right people he will be easy to kill. As many of u may know he despawnes if u dont kill him fast enough so u need to be quick (little riim for mistakes). i main tanked him and he hit me first with a Quad(4) from between 890-1140 and a quick double after that. He attackes crazy fast and has a lot of hit points. Ur gonna need 2 seperate pools the big one on the AoW and the smaller one on the adds (and there will be a handfull or more) ull need a few max lvl clerics maybe 4-5 or so for each main tank and off tank fighting him and patch healers for the add tanks. You will need hella DPS and if i remember correctly he cannot be slowed or rooted fo clerics be fast. Again he will d-spawn if u dont kill him, i dont recall the time on d-spawn but if u engadge fast and fight fight fight u will kill him fast.
#Kepness,
Posted: Aug 27 2004 at 7:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) give me some raid info please? how many hp's, how much does he hit for, etc. Need the info, tired of posts drooling...
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Do a google search moron, this raid is almost 4 years old.
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Posted: Aug 14 2004 at 12:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i wanted to know if i can do thid with 3 groups how much time will it take to kill an estimate with 3 groups and how much hp does this guy have about?? and how hard does he hit
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You all talk about Anger 3 but where can we get it? I'm assuming its a ldon thing. How much is it n stuff?
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Btw I think you people are crazy and greedy. Went in the bazaar last night, saw someone say, now selling Blade of Carnage, look me up in trader, so me being a little curiose monkey, looked him up and saw, Blade of Carnage 500000p. Half a million plat? wtf, even if I had that much I'd just buy a bunch of armor instead, I hear this is easy to get for lvl 65ers. But I guess most people who buy it are those getting it for thier twinks anyways. But again if I was lvl 65 I'd just go raid for it, would never spend that much money one one weapon no matter how good it is.
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if you were all 65+...why would you want to raid for BoC for an agro weap when you could just go raid xtc or the cursed for Hategiver or Bloodfrenzy
cos as a warrior on that raid it would be your job to tank. To tank you need to be able to keep aggro. As a warrior to keep aggro you need good weapons and to get those weapons you listed you need to be in the raid.
hence why a 65+ twink might want a boc.
hence why a 65+ twink might want a boc.
Thats only because you don't HAVE that much money. When someone has 6 or 8 million plat, 300-500kpp for a weapon isn't so big a deal, when they are making their twinks.
Hardly easy to get, even for 65's.
AoW may be trival, but he's still a pain in the *** if he gets a few good rounds in. :P
AoW may be trival, but he's still a pain in the *** if he gets a few good rounds in. :P
One of the main reasons a lot of items go for such an outrageous price is the rarity of the item. Is this the greatest item in the game, or the greatest droppable in the game? Depends on your perspective and the needs of certain stats o the toon ... but for the most part this is not the best (admittedly on a dream list for me, but still not the best).
If this dropped commonly off of level 60 common mobs in BoT, the price would maybe be a quarter of what it is. Some people just like to carry the most rare pieces.
i.e. Rotting Eye Mask is not the greatest, and even though Allakhazam has it as being a common drop it really is not. I sold mine for 22k and kick myself because I had not even meant to sell it,but I could have easily gotten 30k+ for it...
If this dropped commonly off of level 60 common mobs in BoT, the price would maybe be a quarter of what it is. Some people just like to carry the most rare pieces.
i.e. Rotting Eye Mask is not the greatest, and even though Allakhazam has it as being a common drop it really is not. I sold mine for 22k and kick myself because I had not even meant to sell it,but I could have easily gotten 30k+ for it...
Summary:
On dual proc weapons. Secondary never goes off unless primary proc doesn't. When primary fails, secondary gets a chance to activate.(Thus, you never see BOTH effects on the SAME swing, and the second effect occurs slightly less often than the first.) Procs are on a 'timer' and have a reuse time before it can activate again. The Blade of Carnage is known to proc frequently.
Anger procs are INSTANT effects, and do stack. -But not if they go off TOO CLOSELY together. (which is rare, so it is GOOD to have dual anger on an item.)
Anger II = 400 anger, Anger III = 600.
As far as stealing aggro, I hold to the theory that mobs seem to recognize new threats that are being most deadly. -If you're a caster that has been taking aggro, take the sage advice and slow it down a bit.
Also - for agro management, try finding an item that has a clicky DETRIMENTAL effect. Click, reclick, click, click, click... If such an item isn't a weapon, then you're stacking an extra layer of aggro. Hotkey the clicky item so it can be activated by a number key. You DID do this with taunt as well, right? (Many Warriors don't, because they don't play casters and don't use hotkeys.)
Did you also make taunt into a repeating hotkeyed macro? Many melee classes don't know this can be done.
<example of command syntax>
/doability4
/pause 100
/doability4
/pause 100
/doability4
As far as those people that are aways saying, "Dude, you can just put an aggro proc on a different weapon man... save a lot of money." - Would you WANT to wield a different weapon? The BOC stats are rather outstanding and hard to beat. Also... How many weapons have a primary effect of causing hate, that you can add an extra hate aug to? - There ya go. There's no comparison.
Through this whole postboard, there is one general consensus. And that is that this weapon effeciently causes hate. But I'd like to bring attention to the stats. Scroll back up. That's +15 to all the combat stats, it's 100HP. and the swing speed is 20. 15/20 is Good for a 1HS. WITHOUT the anger proc, this weapon is still worth A LOT of plat. I think that ends the argument about it being overvalued. It's a weapon that is also an incredible hate tool that has a place in any warrior's ********
For those that have studied swingspeed, 10 delay is once per second, and EQ won't let you go faster than that. (reason why mosscovered twig didn't react to haste.) So you got 1 swing per two seconds. High ENC haste will take a BoC to about 13 delay. I don't want to start a flamewar about swingspeed, because everybody argues about it. Just making the point that this weapon is also pretty fast, and once hasted, is comprable with any other 1HS, even if it has lower delay.
Covering every angle, this weapon is one of a kind.
I'll end my post with one word:
Uber.
Edited, Sat Jun 12 19:59:29 2004
On dual proc weapons. Secondary never goes off unless primary proc doesn't. When primary fails, secondary gets a chance to activate.(Thus, you never see BOTH effects on the SAME swing, and the second effect occurs slightly less often than the first.) Procs are on a 'timer' and have a reuse time before it can activate again. The Blade of Carnage is known to proc frequently.
Anger procs are INSTANT effects, and do stack. -But not if they go off TOO CLOSELY together. (which is rare, so it is GOOD to have dual anger on an item.)
Anger II = 400 anger, Anger III = 600.
As far as stealing aggro, I hold to the theory that mobs seem to recognize new threats that are being most deadly. -If you're a caster that has been taking aggro, take the sage advice and slow it down a bit.
Also - for agro management, try finding an item that has a clicky DETRIMENTAL effect. Click, reclick, click, click, click... If such an item isn't a weapon, then you're stacking an extra layer of aggro. Hotkey the clicky item so it can be activated by a number key. You DID do this with taunt as well, right? (Many Warriors don't, because they don't play casters and don't use hotkeys.)
Did you also make taunt into a repeating hotkeyed macro? Many melee classes don't know this can be done.
<example of command syntax>
/doability4
/pause 100
/doability4
/pause 100
/doability4
As far as those people that are aways saying, "Dude, you can just put an aggro proc on a different weapon man... save a lot of money." - Would you WANT to wield a different weapon? The BOC stats are rather outstanding and hard to beat. Also... How many weapons have a primary effect of causing hate, that you can add an extra hate aug to? - There ya go. There's no comparison.
Through this whole postboard, there is one general consensus. And that is that this weapon effeciently causes hate. But I'd like to bring attention to the stats. Scroll back up. That's +15 to all the combat stats, it's 100HP. and the swing speed is 20. 15/20 is Good for a 1HS. WITHOUT the anger proc, this weapon is still worth A LOT of plat. I think that ends the argument about it being overvalued. It's a weapon that is also an incredible hate tool that has a place in any warrior's ********
For those that have studied swingspeed, 10 delay is once per second, and EQ won't let you go faster than that. (reason why mosscovered twig didn't react to haste.) So you got 1 swing per two seconds. High ENC haste will take a BoC to about 13 delay. I don't want to start a flamewar about swingspeed, because everybody argues about it. Just making the point that this weapon is also pretty fast, and once hasted, is comprable with any other 1HS, even if it has lower delay.
Covering every angle, this weapon is one of a kind.
I'll end my post with one word:
Uber.
Edited, Sat Jun 12 19:59:29 2004
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Posted: May 11 2004 at 2:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Looking at this stuff makes me feel weak. I am a 65 beastlord and would like to make some serious plat? whats some great ways for a 65 beastlord to make Plat.
After using one of these, and using a cord hilted spike driver, I have to say I prefer the driver mainhand. It proc one hell of a lot more.
Also I have been dragging agro off of a warrior with one of these and a GBOS using a twisted steel ******* sword and anger 3 aug....without taunting.
Depending on the weapon, gimme 2hs in most zones =)
Also I have been dragging agro off of a warrior with one of these and a GBOS using a twisted steel ******* sword and anger 3 aug....without taunting.
Depending on the weapon, gimme 2hs in most zones =)
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Well, your not being tanker friendly to your warrior or your clerics. or anyone else in your group/raid. If you are not the designated MT, then why are you using weopons that proc a hate? You admit you have a weapon that has anger 3, that means that weapon in your ******* is to take taunt. No matter what you might think, you are WRONG for equiping this item and then wondering why the MT is losing agro. You did right by stating "depending on the weopon, gimme 2hs in most zones =)" as that is what you should be doing if your not the MT...the only damage you should be taking is rampage or other AOE style damage. Any direct damage from the mob you take, and you are not doing your job.
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Saying anger does not stack is totally wrong..
I am a 65 War on Mithaniel Marr with BoC:Anger3 in Primary and SobS:Anger3 in secondary slot.. Anger aug effect does stack, They can not proc in same combat round, But NO YOU WILL NOT get a message saying that your spell could not take hold or whatever... You get messages more like " A Vann Militis face contort's with rage " I have seen it multiple times in just a few seconds so according to the proc per minute allowance determined by your Dex, Haste, Weapon skill, weapon Delay, and your AA abillities such as Weapon Affinity from GoD, and Ambidextrious; It can not be just the Enraging Blow and/or Anger3 Aug on Primary but has to be the Anger3 proc on the secondary going off as well. Try parsing your log files and taking a look at them sometime when using an anger3 aug on primary and secondary if you happen to have a BoC. That ought to prove my point beyond any reasonable or unreasonable doubt..
( Oh and as far as I know The proc is still working for lower lvls, lvl 40war in guild Total twink case has one and still proc's just fine for him ) /shrug
Edited, Tue Mar 30 19:23:38 2004
I am a 65 War on Mithaniel Marr with BoC:Anger3 in Primary and SobS:Anger3 in secondary slot.. Anger aug effect does stack, They can not proc in same combat round, But NO YOU WILL NOT get a message saying that your spell could not take hold or whatever... You get messages more like " A Vann Militis face contort's with rage " I have seen it multiple times in just a few seconds so according to the proc per minute allowance determined by your Dex, Haste, Weapon skill, weapon Delay, and your AA abillities such as Weapon Affinity from GoD, and Ambidextrious; It can not be just the Enraging Blow and/or Anger3 Aug on Primary but has to be the Anger3 proc on the secondary going off as well. Try parsing your log files and taking a look at them sometime when using an anger3 aug on primary and secondary if you happen to have a BoC. That ought to prove my point beyond any reasonable or unreasonable doubt..
( Oh and as far as I know The proc is still working for lower lvls, lvl 40war in guild Total twink case has one and still proc's just fine for him ) /shrug
Edited, Tue Mar 30 19:23:38 2004
what he meant was, they will not proc at the same time if you have the aug on the BoC. In other words: EB and Anger3 will not proc on top of each other(same round) due to it being on the same weapon requiring the check. Having Anger3 on your off hand, however, will not be effected and requires a different check then having 2 effects on the same weapon. So you are right, but so is Walgurorf.
Edited, Sun Apr 18 15:54:22 2004
Edited, Sun Apr 18 15:54:22 2004
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Hi I got Boc for Twink =p Warrior is lvl 21 and BOC "DOES NOT PROC" Says ur Insufficent lvl " Blah blah....so yet again they nerfed it without sayin anything....anyone know when it procs NOW?
Thanks
Thanks
Procs just fine at 55. Really don't need the proc at 21 anyway. the damage this does should be plenty of aggro at that level.
Procs at 45. . . that is the new required level
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I cant believe that your complaining that a level 21 can't get this to proc. SHEES I think its obsene that a 21 can actually wield the thing. Count yourself lucky! More money than sense springs to mind.
The day will come so that people can't twink thier lvl 1 characters with a BoC. I think they should put a required lvl of 40 or 45 on it.
People used to say the same thing about centi Longswords. More likely, the day will come when level ones without BoC, are considered underequipped.
I've already seen a level 10 SK in the bazaar, looking to upgrade his MoSS. I remember when level 45 SKs were wanting to upgrade TO a MoSS.
I've already seen a level 10 SK in the bazaar, looking to upgrade his MoSS. I remember when level 45 SKs were wanting to upgrade TO a MoSS.
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i have a 65 warrior when he was in his 40s i had one of these but i gave it to friend he loves it is a nice weapon especially if alot of casters in group
Marshall anemic bloodlust 65 overlord of agnostic
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Vallon Zek
Marshall anemic bloodlust 65 overlord of agnostic
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Vallon Zek
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I realize I'm responding to an old post, but..#1 where is your punctuation? And #2 I'm glad your friend likes it, but why would anyone here care? I post this because I'm tired of seeing good, informational posts get rated to extinction while useless garbage like you are spouting remain.
hmm, seems to me someone was not hugged as a child. now unless i am mistaken, the guy was making a post about something he wanted to make a post about. since when was that illegal?
OK this is the deal with the EB proc on the BoC and the Anger range of aggro aug's from LDoN.
1/ No it is not a waste putting anger aug on a BoC
2/ No they don't stack
What I mean by that is on each attack round the system will check if the 1st proc takes effect, now if it does thats it, nothing more will happen untill the next attack round. If however it doesn't proc, it will then check if the 2nd effect takes place (in this case the Anger aug). Therefore the Anger aug will only proc if the Enraging Blow effect doesn't (this is true for all weapons with 2 (Combat) effects, whether it's aggro, DD, slow or whatever).
Effectively adding an Anger aug will at least double the chance of an aggro effect taking place, I say at least double because in my own experience the Anger 3 aug procs more often then the original BoC proc.
1/ No it is not a waste putting anger aug on a BoC
2/ No they don't stack
What I mean by that is on each attack round the system will check if the 1st proc takes effect, now if it does thats it, nothing more will happen untill the next attack round. If however it doesn't proc, it will then check if the 2nd effect takes place (in this case the Anger aug). Therefore the Anger aug will only proc if the Enraging Blow effect doesn't (this is true for all weapons with 2 (Combat) effects, whether it's aggro, DD, slow or whatever).
Effectively adding an Anger aug will at least double the chance of an aggro effect taking place, I say at least double because in my own experience the Anger 3 aug procs more often then the original BoC proc.
That's not true, I have had up to three procs go off simultaneously, all from same weapon. Now whether or not this is true for anger generating procs.. I can't say for sure, but I don't see why it would be any different. The proc check is on a per-proc basis, they all operate independantly from eachother.
Old news for a year old post... here's what they don't mention... dual weild, double attack and flurry.... Everything checks off your first swing with primary hand so if you get a successfull double attack and a flurry with htat swing your primary hand strikes 4 times. Thats 4 chances for procs and 4 chances for crits and 4 chances for a crit proc if you have the right AA's. It might seem like 3 effects went off at once but its probably one hell of a round setting everything off at once.
I love when I get dual weild double attack and flurry to land all at once and see all 4 of my procs go off with a couple crit procs and crit hits in the mess as well... makes me proud to be a warrior when that SK just landed one 2 blows in the same time.
I love when I get dual weild double attack and flurry to land all at once and see all 4 of my procs go off with a couple crit procs and crit hits in the mess as well... makes me proud to be a warrior when that SK just landed one 2 blows in the same time.
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What level does BoC proc at?
#REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 10 2004 at 2:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) FYI Anger does not stack, so anger 3 aug'ing would be a waste, anger will say "the spell did not take hold" , only good thing would be anger 3 proc'n 1st to get agro quicker.
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Anger procs are not DoTs. What you are saying is will a "Permafrost" DD stack with a "Ice Bolt" DD, the question is meaningless.
You can have two procs on a single weapon. They will never both proc on the same swing. They will behave independently of one another.
With regard to procs, extensive log parsing experiments have demonstrated that procs happen at an average rate of 2 per minute primary, and .8 per minute secondary.
305 Dex has only minor improvement over 100 Dex.
All things that proc, do so at the same frequency as all other things that proc.
There is now an AA that will improve proc rate, but anything you think improves your proc rate now is simply a statistical fluke or wishful thinking.
You can have two procs on a single weapon. They will never both proc on the same swing. They will behave independently of one another.
With regard to procs, extensive log parsing experiments have demonstrated that procs happen at an average rate of 2 per minute primary, and .8 per minute secondary.
305 Dex has only minor improvement over 100 Dex.
All things that proc, do so at the same frequency as all other things that proc.
There is now an AA that will improve proc rate, but anything you think improves your proc rate now is simply a statistical fluke or wishful thinking.
If you are talking about Anger 3 in relation to both Enraging Blow or GBoS stun/DD proc then you are wrong. None of these 3 last any longer than 'instant' duration and their effect is done once it hits the mob..there is no need for them to 'stack'. The only way they would interfere with each oither would be if one of them was fixed on the mob like a DoT...but that's not the case.
Anger 3 will proc in addition to BoC and GBoS regular proc's. This combination of weapons can dish out an amazing amount of aggro for the character using them. I would recommend augmenting them both with Anger 3.
Anger 3 will proc in addition to BoC and GBoS regular proc's. This combination of weapons can dish out an amazing amount of aggro for the character using them. I would recommend augmenting them both with Anger 3.
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