when i said to them "you suck", they replied with "i know you do, but what about us?" that was funny! made me want to try it with everything i met in luclin ^__^
I can tell you from my friends experience, DON'T go into wolf form around the Hands of Serus gaurds.....luckily she was right next to Sanctus zone and was able to get out alive...barely.
I just to make sure this information is correct. Killing Seru guards raises Katta faction right? Katta has some pretty nice quests I'm looking to do, but thus far TMts appeared to be the only option to do in order to raise that faction. However those vamps are not easily soloable.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 24 2002 at 3:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just because the city of Seru is that of the Evil intended legions of the Combine Empire, doesnt mean they just love really evil race's/classes, they are just of more evil intent that those loyal to Katta.
On a side note of fact, your premise is completely wrong. Therefore, your conclusions are dubious at best. If you took 30 seconds to query any of the on-line Latin dictionaries, you would find something like the following:
sanctus : holy, sacred, /saint
So, Sanctus Seru means Sacred Seru not Song of Seru, and sacred and saints are decidedly NOT evil.
As long as we are digressing into the Latin origins of the Seru and Katta zones and their factions, here are a few more:
Katta Castellum
castellum : castle, fortress, fort, citadel/ shelter, refuge. Therefore, Castle of Katta would be a fair translation.
It’s bad enough when one has to wade through post after post of non-information, such as, “First post!” or “Bards suck!”, but posting false information is even worse, as some people will take it as fact and be led astray. You need to spend a little time in study and research before you post. That might also help you avoid using words like “devided” (divided), “themselfs" (themselves), and “there” (their) leader.
I’m considering whacking some of these Hand of Seru guys to gain faction with the Shaman quest NPCs in The Twilight Sea (Sarah and Halfron Jelnen)l, who I’m guessing are Katta Citizen faction *shrug*. I’ve heard that killing Coterie doesn’t do it. Since I’m a troll and KOS in Sanctus Seru already, I’d rather sacrifice Seru factions for Katta factions. Please note, I haven't killed any of them yet, so I don't know if this strategy is good for raising faction for the quests, but it's my best shot based on what I've read on these boards. If anyone has any direct experience, such as, a viable strategy for improving faction with Sarah and Halfron Jelnen, please post it.
The reason Katta and Seru did have disagreements was over the Darkelf introduction to the Combine Empire yes. Though, Katta is a city of good and Seru is a city of evil. It REALLY may look the other way around judging by the artwork (seru being prestine and katta being dark and dingey) but this is only because Katta Castellum has constantly been under attack by spies and agents of Seru and Seru's Allies (and possible creations?) the Vampires known as the Coterie of Eternal Night.
It is rumoured though that the Mayor of Katta Castellum is indeed inflicted with the Vampiric Curse, although obviously on the side of good (or so it seems?) He does seem to have a secret agenda though and you will be attacked if you approach certain locked area's of his mantion...
But anyways if you are of a 'Good' class (paladin cleric druid ranger yada yada yada) expect to make home with Katta Castellum, and if you are of an 'Evil' Class (evil cleric, shadowknight, necro yada yada), expect to make home within the walls of Sanctus Seru.
I am still searching for more lore on the ancient combine empire and what happened when Katta and Seru split ways ( /cough when seru tried to assassinate katta that is :) ).
I'll have to doublecheck, but the last time I went zoned into Sanctus Seru with my necromancer (to escape a train in DSP), I got the crap beat out of me by the guards inside. Strangely enough, the guards outside (in DSP) left me alone.
lol. Obviously the Hand didn't get the memo to kill anything that wasn't wearing shiny armor and wielding a Ghoulbane. Had the same experience as most everyone else, Hand indiff and zoned in to a welcoming committee that wanted blood. /sigh. Went back with my half-elf rogue (Bristlebane), nothing worse than dubious...went down near the jail cells and found some netherbian prisoners that had keys to the cells, and the guards just stood there like the morons they are.
IMO, there's nothing to see here...Seru doesn't wish to detain me any longer...and they'll be hiring more guards soon.
Now who on the VI staff could be a Monty Python fan? After one of the guards took out a Zelniak Ripper by Netherbian Lair zone, he said "nobody expects the seru inquisition!" That was my chuckle for the day hehe
If you want the shield from this guys, dont bother. The shield and weapons they hold ar NO RENT. I found out the hard way. I was indifferent before i killed him. Now im apprehensive. Ouch!
If you're looking to raise faction with the hand, go into Marus Seru and hunt Recusos....the recondite/dervish-like bandits that reside there. This will raise faction for Sanctus Seru AND the Hand of Seru guards in Marus Seru.
Half elf Warrior dedicated to rallo zek - indiff to outside guards, indiff to everyone else in sanctus seru. I've killed many recuso so that may have something to do with it.
Very little seemed to see invis while I was here, but they do hate the darkys. My ERU SK was indifferent outside, but not well recieved inside. Did notice something interesting though. Some of the guards appeared to be erudites, so it has to be mostly a god thing. They really don't like Cazic or inny, or other not-so-good guards.
PS Did you notice the erudites were dule wielding? Damn you VI. I want a dule wielding pally too!
If I recall from reading some of the descriptions of zones, Santus Seru was founded by a group that split off from the people at Katta Castellum. The disagreement was over the fact that Katta decided to allow dark races into the city. The Seru group even tried to assassinate the leader of the Katta group. Given that fact, it would make sense that evil creatures would not be received too well by the guards or anyone within Santus Seru.
For what it's worth, they were all pretty much dubious and apprehensive to a barbarian shaman. Maybe they are just ticked off at visitors for tracking mud into their pristine city.
Whilst exploring the new zones on the moon and after reading Verants post about everyone being welcomed to the city zones including Iksar and Dark elves no matter what god you worshipped, I decided to take a peek inside this place. I conned the guards at the entrance and showed up as dubious, fine so far all the guards had showed this as well. Upon zoning I got whakced for 190 damage multiple times from a wood elf and human guard and managed to zone out with 30 health left. If you are a Dark Race then enter with caution. Now that I know I am KOS to them its open season in Sanctus Seru.
Trying to do lightcrawler quests as a gnome necro, I conned the guards in Dawnshroud. Indifferent. Walked into Sanctus, took 950 damage in 3 seconds. Dead. Tried to do CR, large aggro range, got whacked. Pulled corpse to a corner, looted, got rooted by a see-invis dr00id guard, got whacked. Sanctus Seru is not a good place to be evil.
K Inside the city I hear it isnt just DE's its all elven races.. could be wrong though.. does anyone happen to know offhand what raises faction with them ? By killing what? Also .. DEs of Innoruuk are welcomed just fine in Shar Vahl.. so we isnt KOS everywhere.. just most places.
If you'll notice, all the parts of Seru faction are parts of the body. There is Hand of Seru, Heart of Seru, etc. Tomorrow after the patch I am going to test the faction hits on these (Thank you Verant for making Dark Elves who follow Innoruuk KOS everywhere but Shadow Haven.) So I can go turn in the stuff for EB necklace and quest the 10 slot 85% reduction pack from Katta.
Darkfenix Mindreaver, 55th Beguiler of Cascade Point, Rodcet Nife