Evil Research  

Faction boosts for both greater and normal lightstones are the same:

Dark Bargainers +20
Dreadguard Outer +2
Dreadguard Inner +2

Can confirm that this npc, and the good version npc in north karana, are not in yet in classic era on phinny. I heard they get put in in kunark....

I have confirmed that she only says "Oh look, a talking lump of refuse. How novel!" when I hailed her. when she is considered, she looks my way apprehensively. Doesn't give the quest anymore from what I can tell (April 23rd, 2013)

Does this quest still exist since they changed they method of Spell Research?

-Scaryb

You can't do this quest if you are a troll Shaman. In fact, it appears you can't do any of the quests to improve your faction with the dark barginners. None of the Quest givers will talk to me.

Dark Elf camp, 2095.04, n12203.33, 27.50

New /loc, 2095, -1202, 27, due to the zone re-vamps with the release of PoR

Will wolf form work for doing these quests?

No negative faction hits makes this a good one. Gathering lightstones can be a pain, but if you are kos in Neriak and have a reason to go in there, I can't think of many other things you can do that will get you in without getting you bounced somewhere else.

For those of us who don't have track, theres a great lil island FULL of wisps. Usually, there arn't many people there either. Pretty easy to get to though, You can take the boat form qeynos, which should go directly to it. Or the boat from erudin, in which you will have to jump off the boat and make a bit of a swim in shark infested waters (quite a few of them at times -_-) The island will be off the right side of that boat, and will be in view.

Just be careful because its a really small island and when you attack one, you usually get the others. Hope this helps.

Here is an update: making the runes will definitely improve your research skill, however, there is a research skill level cap.

The formula is: (level - 15) x 5

So, at level 16, your research skill cap is actually 5! Since you are able to train research skill at level 16, your skill will be at 16, which is above the cap. This is a bit unorthodox, but it's true.

So, even if you get the concordance of research, you won't get any benefit out of it until at least level 19, at which point you can train research to 20.

It took me forever to figure this out, but it should help clear up some confusion.

Sylense, Enchanter of the 27th Circle

I just tried hailing Smith Tv'ysa several times, and she would not respond, even though my Erudite Necro (Cazic-Thule) conned indifferent.

I found that when I said "what concordance of research" to her, she spoke the first part of the quest text, to which I replied "I am interested" and she gave me the quest.

So to sum up, if you want to test if you can do the quest, and she won't respond to hails, try "I am interested."

and if you are "interested in what spell research is all about, try http://mythiran.allakhazam.com/index.html which is conveniently located on this very website.

Howdy ALL!
Popajorgio here to clear up information about this quest because after I read all of you posts I just got confused and so i did my own little investigation. (All i did took about 2 hours)

First off, to know to be able to do the quest you should go to the Dark Elf in the camp in the middle of the Southern Desert of Ro that name begins with Smith. Hail her, IF you do not get a response about this quest and instead insults you, you are not able to do the quest with the exception of the Invisability trick , BUT you will not get any book back (only EXP). If you hail her and she gives you the quest then obviously you will be able to do the quest and get EXP and the books.

Here is what I did:
1. Made sure that I could do the quest.
2. Bought GLS and LS (could kill for them ,
but that took too long and would
be frustrating if you dint have track)
* 3. I ran to the DE and gave her the GLS and
LS that I collected (had about 5 bags
5 bags full) and turned them in.
-Notes on number 3-
(did this with a lvl 12 iksar necro)

I got killed 4 times. South Ro and
Oasis are deathtraps at this lvl. The DE
camp is just filled of undead monsters
that can jump on you outa nowhere when
you are getting everything in your
inventory organized.(I had to hire a
warrior to help kill all the undead
camp so that i wouldnt get killed.
4. Got 1 yellow and 2 blues of exp from 5
5 bags of GLS and LS. (lose of EXP
included)
5. Sold back all the books and junk she gave
to me.
-Notes on number 5-
*SELLING*
The book you get from turning in LS
=
7 silver 7 copper (respectivley)

The book you get from turning in the GLS
=
9 plat 7 gold (respectively)

Selling the books back was just a
hassle because sometimes i would get a
container back from her from turning in
GLS and had no room so it made me juggle
with my inventory a little and also going
back and forth from the give screen to
screen and also whatching my a$$ for any
undead about to jump me.
(Primary reasons I died so many times)
6. Got my A$$ outa there.


Those of you that are thinking to do this quest can think to yourself if its worth doing all this. I was lvl 12 atm and and maybe it would have been a lot better exp at lets say 10 but i doubt you will last very long in south ro if you dont whatch your back.

For what I value this quest to be worth is not very much. The exp from it was a little less than decent for going through all those wilowisps (if i had done that)

Thats all my information for this quest. Sorry for the mistakes i made on this post. Its getting late here.If you have any questions just send me a tell.

Chwybones 12 necromancer
Happyfeet 49 druid (GATEKEEPER OF ALL COCONUTS!)
Gorlack 40 warrior
<Dun Tyr>
The Tribunal server

Hummm... I've at one time lost my faction with the Dark Bargainers. made the mistake of whacking Ratraz in the 3rd Qrt of Neriak.

It is really simple to get your faction from hated to ally in under 10 min. no kidding!!!!!

Lokar Tobiath in the library in the 3rd Qrt.
if you give him 4 red wines at a time (give him 1 and then put 1 in each of his remaining slots)
but their is a trick to this also.....instead of
1-1-1-1 do this 12-12-12-12(give him 12 red wines his trade window will open put 12 red wines in each of the slots for a total of 48 red wines) ive tried it with 16-16-16-16 but im thinking it only works at a max of 12 in each slot.
IF YOU ARE DUBIOUS OR WORSE TO HIM STARTING THIS QUEST. AFTER YOU HAVE GIVEN 12-12-12-12; HAVE SOMEONE CAST INVIS ON YOU BEFORE YOU CLICK THE TRADE BUTTON-THEN CLICK THE TRADE BUTTON. YOU SHOULD GET 48 POSITIVE FACTION HITS NOT TO MENTION 48 HITS OF LOW EXP. (CAN LEVEL A LEVEL 1 DE TO LEVEL 4 IN UNDER 5 MIN THIS WAY).
IF YOU ARE WORSE THAN DUBIOUS (KOS) YOU WILL NEED TO BE INVISED BEFORE YOU EVEN GET CLOSE TO THE LIBRARY. GIVING HIM WINES SHOULD IMPROVE YOUR STANDING AND NOT TO MENTION A NEW PLACE TO GET FOOD AND GET PROTECTION FROM THE GAURDS IF ATTACKED BY A CRITTER TO TOUGH FOR YOU
PERSONALLY I GAVE HIM 12-12-12-12 X 10 = 480 POSITIVE FACTION HITS . I AM THOUROUGHLY LOVED NOW. LOL
IT WORKS I HAVE A PALADIN FRIEND WHO WAS LEVEL 14 AND DECIDED TO TRY THIS. IT WORKED AND AT LEVEL 14 HE COULD WALK AROUND FREELY INSIDE NERIAK AND NEKTOLOS FOREST. IMAGINE THAT A PALADIN (LIGHT SIDE) PROLLY THE MOST HATED BY DARK SIDE DARK ELVES. WALKIN AROUND FREELY AND TO BE CONSIDERED AN ALLY TO US LOL.

ALSO NEGATIVE FACTION HITS ALSO OCCUR IF YOU KILL THESE CRITTERS:
ORCS IN LESS OR GREATER FAY (CRUSHBONE ORCS)
ANY THING INSIDE OF CRUSHBONE.
A FEW GOOD HITS IN FAYDARK BUT BAD HITS TO
INDIGO BROTHERHOOD - DARK ELVE'S WARRIOR GAURDS IN AND AROUND NERIAK-DREAD GUARD INNER/OUTER- THIS IS THIER MAIN GUILD!!!!!!