Primal Velium Claidhmore
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Scars of Velious14 posts
great item though now with PoP lot of better items out there, granted its not like a 46 can just go in and get them but if you can go into ST chances are you can get an upgrade weapon, however these bring something nice that most weapons dont, a damn nice proc buff, even if you have one of the best weaps from PoP or next expansion having the ability to cast avatar on yourself with out a shaman is priceless at least for the present time.
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Fist of all in the Eq noobie guide it says sumthing about a Artifact item anyone ever seen one? Second I heard that the sleeper went down on a server but it was some dudes using a bug they found and they all got kicked! Third I think the Epic needs to be like pro-nerfed if you know what I mean but make the quest harder by just a bit I am not trying to start a fight here but tell me what ya think and if that Sleeper did realy get taken down.
No, I seem to be saying this a lot, you cannot (currently) put enough people in a Zone to out damage Kerafyrm's regen rate.
What everyone seems to get confused about is Conquest's tactics on the Warders whereby they (supposedly) exploited a pathing bug and kept their clerics out of harms way. From what I remember reading they wiped on the 4th Warder, Sleeper awoke and killed 4th Warder, GM arrived and started handing out Bans and Suspensions like christmas cards at Kindagarten.
IMO, new quests should be made for Further upgrades on Epics, in a similar manner to how the Fiery Defender replaced the Fiery Avenger. It's really only the Weapons that suffer like this but you could still buff up the Caster items with the likes of focus effects or flowing thought, maybe even make the Duck stick useful....nah!
Edited, Sat Nov 23 11:09:31 2002
What everyone seems to get confused about is Conquest's tactics on the Warders whereby they (supposedly) exploited a pathing bug and kept their clerics out of harms way. From what I remember reading they wiped on the 4th Warder, Sleeper awoke and killed 4th Warder, GM arrived and started handing out Bans and Suspensions like christmas cards at Kindagarten.
IMO, new quests should be made for Further upgrades on Epics, in a similar manner to how the Fiery Defender replaced the Fiery Avenger. It's really only the Weapons that suffer like this but you could still buff up the Caster items with the likes of focus effects or flowing thought, maybe even make the Duck stick useful....nah!
Edited, Sat Nov 23 11:09:31 2002
Mostly correct.
What happened (I'm trying to achive truth by averaging what the guild said and what GMs said) was the guild had killed 3 warders, and were on the 4th (and hardest one).
It will never be known if they would have killed it. Some say they were close, others say they were about to wipe anyway (many who have killed the first 3 warders wiped on the last one who was much harder).
Then the GM showed up (one or more is not clear). One GM in particular decided that the guild should not be allowed to wake the sleeper (because the script controling it was apparently not quite ready, and because the guild had "cheated" to get this far).
So, they "/kill"ed it. For those who do not know, GMs get a command called /kill. It removes a mob from the game. No corpse. No loot. No exp. Pretty much what happens when an NPC KSes you.
So, that seemed like the right call. But it wasn't. Seems that the script didn't know the difference between /kill and a legit player kill, so the sleeper spawned. Said guild and GMs were all promptly DTed (yes GMs are not immune to DT) and the sleeper began its rampage until a GM put it down.
There's also the confusing fact that Verant had just patched the texture and model files to add the sleeper in, and the guild members who took screen shots had not yet patched. So, the screenshot showed "Kerafyrm"(sp? that's the Sleeper's name) as a naked, bald human. Those who know what a model-less mob looked like didn't get confused, but an awful lot of folks thought the sleeper was a human or that Kerafyrm was a whole other mob.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion. There's a lot of misinormation about this one, but I've collected info from Verant's official comments and the guild in question's Web site. Both of those I consider somewhat authoritative.
What happened (I'm trying to achive truth by averaging what the guild said and what GMs said) was the guild had killed 3 warders, and were on the 4th (and hardest one).
It will never be known if they would have killed it. Some say they were close, others say they were about to wipe anyway (many who have killed the first 3 warders wiped on the last one who was much harder).
Then the GM showed up (one or more is not clear). One GM in particular decided that the guild should not be allowed to wake the sleeper (because the script controling it was apparently not quite ready, and because the guild had "cheated" to get this far).
So, they "/kill"ed it. For those who do not know, GMs get a command called /kill. It removes a mob from the game. No corpse. No loot. No exp. Pretty much what happens when an NPC KSes you.
So, that seemed like the right call. But it wasn't. Seems that the script didn't know the difference between /kill and a legit player kill, so the sleeper spawned. Said guild and GMs were all promptly DTed (yes GMs are not immune to DT) and the sleeper began its rampage until a GM put it down.
There's also the confusing fact that Verant had just patched the texture and model files to add the sleeper in, and the guild members who took screen shots had not yet patched. So, the screenshot showed "Kerafyrm"(sp? that's the Sleeper's name) as a naked, bald human. Those who know what a model-less mob looked like didn't get confused, but an awful lot of folks thought the sleeper was a human or that Kerafyrm was a whole other mob.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion. There's a lot of misinormation about this one, but I've collected info from Verant's official comments and the guild in question's Web site. Both of those I consider somewhat authoritative.
primal isnt that hard to get, my guild has 25 keys to ST and on average 2 groups raid ST every week, now the sleeper was woke up already so there are no warders to deal with sadly, but the other named that drop primal can be done with 12 peeps, with out to much problem. but primal drops are not as common as they are with the warders so it takes a couple kills before you will see primal weapons, and more 2hb and 2hs primal drop than anything else, we have seen some 1hb and piercing but 1hs has yet to drop. And no the sleeper doesnt zone wide dt but he does kill every mob in zone. poor peeps that didnt know he was coming hehe. rumor has it vex thal has a quest to recapture the sleeper so i guess we wait to see
#REDACTED,
Posted: Apr 24 2002 at 6:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is better then epic hands down. I have NEVER seen any player with a primal though. I see epics quit a bit on the other hand. I totally agree with updating epic. Make an add on quest that is just as hard as the original and requires you to have the original epic to complete it. I dunno if casters need this soo much as hybrids and warriors though since they already have insanely good weapons with hella mana/int/wis and awesome spells they don't get. Rangers, rogues, and monks also could possibly be ruled out. If they did get an update it would have to be a small one since their weapons are already very uber. 41% click haste is the best haste available on any item. Maybe make Ragebringer like 15/22 and ranger epics 14/22 and 13/20. The ones who would really benefit from this though would be sk and paladins. Maybe make paladin 35/36 with a 250dd. Just updating weapons wouldn't work. Think about it, making yaks 12/24 with superior ykesha effect (150dd for example), that would disrupt the economy way too much. There are way too many yaks out there already and if they had stats like this you would see every noob killing reds. On another note, I am sorry, but the weapon selection available to paladins is just pathetic. Why not go play another class? Becuase I like paladins, I just don't like their crummy weapon selection. SK have like 3x more weapons available and most weapons are better. Some examples are DB Rod, Soulbinder, Zealot Sword, Ebon Mace, MoSS, Noct Blade. Paladins get SoS, SoM and Baton of Faith. All of which suck, yet cost more then sk items of similar stats.
10 posts
Today i was lucky to get one, its
dmg 45 dly 44 all stats 8 all saves 8 mana hps 75 procs avatar
dmg 45 dly 44 all stats 8 all saves 8 mana hps 75 procs avatar
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I was told the damage/delay is 45/40 not 33/35
7 posts
I too agree verant should restore epics to their formor glory, thats what they were made for in the first place. this would be an awesome combo with swiftwind
#REDACTED,
Posted: Apr 16 2002 at 4:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Adaua, you moron. Learn how to read - 2 hand slash. FREAK!!!
#REDACTED,
Posted: Dec 22 2001 at 10:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ya it would.. IF IT WERE 1HS!!!!!!!!
17 posts
Zone Wide death touch when the 4 warders are slain everything PC and NPC dies, he has not been killed and it would take a server-wide assault to take him down, I'm talking 300+ players (this amount of players would prolly crash the zone tho). The screenshots you saw in the now gone Da´Kor website are shots of him prior to his wakening, so he is basically sleeping and has never died to PC's. Primal/Priceless Weps drop off the warders and arbitrors, and cloth caps too!. The primal-priceless line of weapons is better than any melee epic quest WEAPON out there (celestial fists excluded). Hopefully Verant will restore the epics to their glory by implementing an epic revamp quest that increases your current epic's stats, say 14 20 for war 1hs and a better proc.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 06 2002 at 10:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I would be incilined to believe that, if they would stop competeing and work together... Reconstructed and Vane, along with some of the other high-end guilds on my server (Arete, Dawn of Redemption, even Honor Knights if we could ever get oragnized /sincker) could probably combine forces and defeat the sleeper. Vane and Recon can both singlehandedly take down Avatar of War, Recon (and probably Vane too) has killed Tunare etc. Though I cannot confirm this, from what I have heard, the Sleeper quads for 1600... now with defensive, this would be in the 1300s. Still ALOT of damage to take but with as many cleircs as you would have, and a MT with 6khp and 1600+ac (thats Recon's or so I am told, again, not sure about Vane though Vane is traditionally the more powerfull, they are primarily on Japanese time and well, I'm not), and other tanks with primals, epics, NToV drops etc (and 250+ to most saves), and a TON of nukers to burn him, it should be managable. The main concern would be lag, a typical raid from recon is about 65+ lvl 60s... also could be bad if the reports from which I received my info were flawed (ive never been attacked by the sleeper, just heard about it heh, lucky me i guess). About AoE deathtouch, from what I have been told, he goes to each zone in Velious, deathtouches, moves on untill he hits Wakenening lands, where he CAN be killed (its just insanely hard). He was killed using an exploit... There was a bridge under which you were invincible... Put a 55+ mage in each group and rotate the tanks, if a tank got in trouble, CoH him, if someone got summoned, CoH him (or her). The guild that did it was disbanded though.
36 posts
They did not kill the Sleeper, they used the bridge pathing bug on the Fourth Warder, which would of beat their asses had they not done it. A GM saw them being cheap and what they considered cheating(exploiting a bug/script error) and the GM finished off the fourth warder himself and released the sleeper, watched them all die, put the sleeper back to sleep and banned every member of the guild for exploiting the bug.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 15 2002 at 2:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey slein this space that allakhazam has designated for posting is for posting about this weapon you sob i could care less about what guild in your server can kill the sleeper or no so shut your mouth and talk aout the weapon not the sleeper
11 posts
the zone wide death touch is totally false...rumors and wives tales...gets bigger and bigger with each post..itrepid woke the sleeper on thouell server...zone death did not happen..but dont get me wrong..he does wipe out all in his path..but not zone wide
16 posts
right, since its possible to have araid of over 300 people, let alone a raid of 100 people, smart guy:) think about connections...
are you blind or retarded? Cause it has to be one, the guy said "it would prolly crash the zone though" so... umm STFU maybe? possibly? ... ... ok, pretty please? Next time you flame read teh whole friggen entry before you spout out nonsense.
18 posts
ok first off to the guy that wrote the first post, a warrior CANNOT get above 1300ac, so with your little 1600ac idea is wrong, are you a freaking newb or something, just figured i would let you know that there is no way for a warrior or any other class to rise above 1300ac... just figure i would put in my skinny
Orfeus-60 warrior
Pompus-60 magician
Punched-60 monk
Rezzing-60 cleric
Zebby-60 paladin
Kenny-60 ranger
Thiry-60 rogue
Kenon-59 enchanter
Tribunal
Orfeus-60 warrior
Pompus-60 magician
Punched-60 monk
Rezzing-60 cleric
Zebby-60 paladin
Kenny-60 ranger
Thiry-60 rogue
Kenon-59 enchanter
Tribunal
CodyR:
Orfeus-60 warrior
Pompus-60 magician
Punched-60 monk
Rezzing-60 cleric
Zebby-60 paladin
Kenny-60 ranger
Thiry-60 rogue
Kenon-59 enchanter
do they also have their epic?
if you do have this many character, let me tell you get a life !!!!!!!
Orfeus-60 warrior
Pompus-60 magician
Punched-60 monk
Rezzing-60 cleric
Zebby-60 paladin
Kenny-60 ranger
Thiry-60 rogue
Kenon-59 enchanter
do they also have their epic?
if you do have this many character, let me tell you get a life !!!!!!!
40 posts
actually it is possible to get ac over 1300 for a warrior... ive seen a warrior with 1500+... with my own eyes
5 posts
Here is one
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=123895
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=123895
Just gotta say WOW!!!!! Now that's the most impressive ******* of gear I've seen on a warrior. Nice work gettin it.
10 posts
For those of you who do not know. Avatar is the ULTIMATE melee buff in the game. Its a level 60 shaman spell that gives the stats : +100 strength +100 dexterity +100 to attack +100 agility Lasts for a max of one minute and has a recast time of 3 minutes.
Even with only its one minute duration you could wreak havoc on ANYTHING no matter what level it is. :)
Even with only its one minute duration you could wreak havoc on ANYTHING no matter what level it is. :)
100agi/100dex/100atk thats it.. no strength, no stamina.
10 posts
These weapons have a right to be better than epics. You could get your epic in a few days of hard play time. These primal weapons would take weeks of hard play time and lots of help to get. So therefore they have a right to be better than epics.
Just my say so :)
Just my say so :)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 14 2001 at 3:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I agree that this thing is one of the most uber and disgusting things that I have ever seen come out by verant. I think that the epics should have something at least close on par to these kinds of weapons coming out of Velious. As far as the whole thing about the sleeper being so hard to kill and what not I am told that they are going to increase the player lvls to 100 with Luclin. Not sure maybe a rumor but it would seem that this would be a lot easier if you could get up that high.
No I have read the interview with the creator of Luclin. The lvl cap stays the same lvl 60 Im afraid. As far as what Ive read they have no future plans to up the lvl caps either. That way they can make it a grouping type game instead of soloing. Verant isnt going to let us get these great items that easy. Hehehe
Aamadanae Whirlwind
45th Paladin of The Knights of Burning Justice
Aamadanae Whirlwind
45th Paladin of The Knights of Burning Justice
remember what happened to naggy, vox and all thos old school mobs when kunark came out? well think of that type of thing, except for every good zone in the game. it would make the rest of the game way too easy. plus, there have yet to be ANY mobs on luclin that are the "unkillable" type. so there is no reason to raise the lvl cap
Lol not really flaming but they would do 70 next expansion then 80 and so on... But then that would make since and nothing verant has done ever has so...
Anonymous
i kinda thought epic weapons were supposed to be the best, i think its kinda stupid that verant made weapons that drop better than epics, but i guess it is Sleeper's Tomb. anyways, feel free to flame
Anonymous
I just got my warrior epic and I parsed my damage output (dual wielding) with another warrior of the guild that was using a Primal/Priceless combo (they each have the same dmg/dly) and he completely blew me away. The only weapon in the game thus far that I've seen that can replace a primal weapon would be the Swiftblade of Zek and even that's debatable and only if you already have a Primal in the other hand, cause Avatar is just too good to give up.
Anonymous
From what I've heard, the Sleeper himself does a zone wide death touch when he goes down. He's supposed to be an unkillable up there with Tunare and the Avatar of War so it seems likely that this might be true.
23 posts
Tunare will be killable when the Expansion comes out. The new magician spell stops mobs from summoning. What I heard is that Tunare is so tough becuase she summons a bunch of treants to help her. Without all her buddies I would say she will go down within the first 2 weeks of the SoL release. Thats if the bugs in the game won't be too bad.
46 posts
The trick to take down Tunare that was FAR overlooked before and no one knew was that you HAVE to clear the whole Plane of Growth to even get a chance to take her down. She does summon a few (under exaggerating here) mobs to come "help". Some conning blue to me at 60. She hits hard too, I MT'd and died halfway through the fight when she was half health and was rezzed before take down. I got the the last hit and killed her too, it was great. Anyways, Primal is alot easier to get if the Sleeper has not been awoken, I have most of all the pieces of primal and some I won't bother anymore since I wanna hit Vex Thal now for some stuff. Well, there ya go. A little clarification for the masses. ;)
-SpAz MuNk
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=247218
Edited, Wed Jun 19 17:42:16 2002
-SpAz MuNk
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=247218
Edited, Wed Jun 19 17:42:16 2002
Dude, where ya been? Tunare was killed 6 months ago, and a handful of times since then.
hehe caught me too 8)
6 months before your post ;)
Anonymous
for ages people considered the priest of discord unkillable.
but he dropped some day. and so will sleeper.
believe me.
but he dropped some day. and so will sleeper.
believe me.
I really really truly agree with Gindayen. Tunare was on the unkillable list for awhile, as was AoW. They have both been killed. The sleeper WILL go down someday.
Everyone says the players will beat verants new mobs each time, but I don't think some of these mobs are killable. These new super uber mobs, like Tunare and Kerafym and the Sleeper have ungodly amounts of HP and cast Silence to prevent any spells from being cast. Zone wide DT's on top of that for sleepers makes it even more impossible.
1 post
Kerafym is the Sleeper, they are not different mobs. =P
Thee is no zone wide death touch, get it right.
Thee is no zone wide ceath touch, get it right.
Anonymous
From what I heard the Sleeper does zone wide death touches around every 30 seconds or so. Supposedly also has the highest amount of HP allowed by the current set up of EQ. But then again, I shouldn't believe everything I read.
Anonymous
from what i understand... the new system has no max limit.
Anonymous
Exactly.
Anonymous
I heard that if you wake the Sleeper then a lvl 99 mob comes out and kills everything and one..(PC and NPC)...this may be some dumb lie but if it is true..why would you wake him?
lvl 40 Iksar monk
Inno server
lvl 40 Iksar monk
Inno server
Anonymous
I have never heard of that ability/spell/skill before. Could anyone let me know what it does.
Kerrik the Unknowing
Paladin
Xev Server
Kerrik the Unknowing
Paladin
Xev Server
Anonymous
Assuming it's a proc of the lvl 60 Shaman spell Avatar then the effect is +100 to STR, DEX, AGI and ATK for 6 minutes
Anonymous
ohhhhhhhhhhh. Ouch....
Kerrik the Unknowing
Paladin
Xev Server
Kerrik the Unknowing
Paladin
Xev Server
29 posts
now you see why i say id take a primal weapon over ur epic any day :p
Anonymous
I am wondering as well.
Laceroy
Ranger 11th moon
Lans T'vyl
Laceroy
Ranger 11th moon
Lans T'vyl
Anonymous
I remember back when I was just a little woodelf warrior running around. I saw the stats on weapons like bladestorm and the razing sword of skarlon, and I thought to myself. "Someday I'll get one of them and then, oh yes, I will be uber." <sigh> those days are long gone.
Busefalis
43 woodelf warrior Xegony<retired>
Busefalis
43 woodelf warrior Xegony<retired>
25 posts
And this is much more difficult to get.
Anonymous
No epic in the game is on par with this when it comes to straight up power. The Paladin Epic is crap if you've got this, especially with the Avatar proc.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 06 2001 at 9:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hehehe, the pally epic sucks anyway =)
What the heck are you talking about the Fiery Defender is a great weapon. Granted this weapon is very very nice. Thats all I read on these posts how Pally items suck this and that. If you dont like being a pally change classes. I for one think our epics are wonderful. For one thing what are the chances of getting this weapon.. almost nil. If a large amount of players could manage to take these mobs down that drop it, and the different classes that can use it your odds are terrible for winning this weapon. I know someone has to win it, but give me a break here. Reminds me of a few pally's I talked with about Ro armor.. They said "Blah.. Ro sucks.. Im going to wait to get Deepwater armor!" Thats great I said.. in the mean time while Im wearing my Ro.. you are all stuck with Fine plate hoping to win your breastplate and any other piece that finally drops.. Not to mention the price of each piece of armor if someone happens to have it for sale. I must say Ive never seen a DW Breastplate for sale ever. So for the love of Jeebus before you go ragging on epic gear.. look at the facts first.
Aamadanae Whirlwind
Aamadanae Whirlwind
Anonymous
Hehehe, the pally epic sucks anyway =)
Atehn
Atehn
Anonymous
This weapon is on par with the Paladin epic. Only one word describes it....UBER!!!
29 posts
ok,,,, i would takk this over the epic any GD day! and im a high lvl pally! its not on par,,, its WAY better, but then again so are all the primal weapons seen so far :)
15 posts
This is far and away better then the Paly epic!
19 posts
yeah and far and away better than like hmmm all the epics maybe??
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