Maybe both sides of the argument are right on this.
It is quite possible and probable that this word can have different meaning in the context that it is used, as well as have taken different meanings within different cultures and time frames. IE English and the traslation from Hebrew, Greek, Ancient Egyptian, etc (depending on which book your looking at).
That being said, wouldn't it be funny if soe planned this out and put thought into the name of the sword.
A sword that proc's a hate that ticks off the enemy and is a curse unto the enemy, but at the same time is a sacrafice and praise unto the god of Hate Innoruuk who delights in all things hateful.
There is a book of Judith. Depends qhich version of the Bible you read. Found this online:
A book of the Old Testament in versions of the Bible based on the Greek Septuagint, Judith is included with the Apocrypha in the Authorized and Revised Standard versions; it does not appear at all in the Hebrew Bible. The work of an unknown author, the book is a fictitious account of the deliverance of Israel from a foreign army by Judith, the devout and beautiful heroine who first beguiled and then beheaded the Assyrian commander Holofernes. The book is dated to the Maccabean period in the 2d century BC.
acording to webster thesaurus Anathema-Curse, imprecation,condemnation,malediction,damnation, 2-villian,foe,outlaw,heretic, bane
think ill go with webster on this one, athough im sure you are entirely more versed in word orgin. this is what it means today, words evolve and at this point in time, i basicly means curse, would explain the proc as well.
Wuben's post is bunk....just pulled out my old dusty King James bible and looked up Anathema in the concordance and Anathema is not listed. Not to mention that there is no chapter named Judith in the bible either. He's pullin our legs here. I did however look up Anathema on Webster's.com:
1. A formal ecclesiastical ban, curse, or excommunication.
2. A vehement denunciation; a curse: "the sound of a witch's anathemas in some unknown tongue"
3. One that is cursed or damned.
4. One that is greatly reviled, loathed, or shunned
5. An imprecation; a curse; a malediction.
Got one of these last night so I guess I'm cursed!
While I am not Catholic, and I guess you aren't as well... Wuben is posting information that is definitely in the Catholic version of the King James (Dusty as it may be...)
There are several books in the Catholic bible that were not canonized (approved by the protestant religious leaders of the time) and determined to be not true by the church and therefore removed by the protestants.
The books of Judith, Mach and a few others mentioned in Wuben's post are part of this "Apocrypha".
So while they are not known to you - they are nevertheless considered to be "The Written Word" of God by the Catholic Church.
Please do some research before you attempt to "debunk" someone else's post.
You know...if you take the meaning Wuben gave, and the meaning that Haarkin gave...and you take a look at what the weapon does (**** off enemies), one can conclude that a curse or a like thing would **** off (enrage) a mob more then an offering to a god. If someone wants to offer me something, I'm definately not going to agro them...
This is a place to post about the game, not religious study 101. I like Haarkin's definition better for what this actually does.
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Posted:Oct 09 2003 at 10:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey wuben WTF are you talking about that has nothing to do with this weapon. Anyway you don't need to write an essay about it.
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Posted:Oct 19 2003 at 5:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dude maybe he is explaining some behind meaning to why SoE might of put this on Inny i mean hence the god of hate. Why not grow up and get a mind and stop trying to put others down, which is a great way to show your intellect might i add >_> /rolls eyes.
A term formerly indicating offerings made to the divinity which were suspended from the roof or walls of temples for the purpose of being exposed to view. Thus anathema according to its etymology signifies a thing offered to God. The word anathema is sometimes used in this sense in the Old and New Testaments: In Judith, xvi, 23, it is said that Judith, having taken all the arms of Holofernes which the people had given him and the curtain of his bed which she herself had brought, offered them to the Lord as an anathema of oblivion. In II Mach., ix, 16, Antiochus promises to adorn with precious gifts (anathemata) the temple he has pillaged; and in Luke, xxi, 5, mention is made of the temple built of precious stones and adorned with rich gifts (anathemata). As odious objects were also exposed to view, e.g. the head of a criminal or of an enemy, or his arms or spoils, the word anathema came to signify a thing hated, or execrable, devoted to public abhorrence or destruction. "To understand the word anathema", says Vigouroux, "we should first go back to the real meaning of herem of which it is the equivalent. Herem comes from the word haram, to cut off, to separate, to curse, and indicates that which is cursed and condemned to be cut off or exterminated, whether a person or a thing, and in consequence, that which man is forbidden to make use of." This is the sense of anathema in the following passage from Deut., vii, 26: "Neither shalt thou bring anything of the idol into thy house, lest thou become an anathema like it. Thou shalt detest it as dung, and shalt utterly abhor it as uncleanness and filth, because it is an anathema." Nations, individuals, animals, and inanimate objects may become anathema, i.e. cursed and devoted to destruction. It was thus that the people inhabiting the Promised Land were anathematized as Moses says (Deut., vii, 1, 2): "When . . . the Lord thy God shall have delivered them to thee, thou shalt utterly destroy them." When a people was anathematized by the Lord, they were to be entirely exterminated. Saul was rejected by God for having spared Agag, King of the Amalecites, amid the greater part of the booty (I K. xv, 9-23). Anyone who spared anything belonging to a man who had been declared anathema, became himself anathema. There is the story of Achan who had charge of the spoils of Jericho; : "The anathema is in the midst of thee, O Israel: thou canst not stand before thy enemies till he be destroyed out of thee that is defiled with this wickedness." Achan, with his family amid herds, was stoned to death. Sometimes it is cities that are anathematized. When the anathema is rigorous all the inhabitants are to be exterminated, the city burned, and permission denied ever to rebuild it, and its riches offered to Jehovah. This was the fate of Jericho (Jos., vi, 17). If it is less strict, all the inhabitants are to be put to death, but the herds may be divided among the victors (Jos., viii, 27). The obligation of killing all inhabitants occasionally admits of exceptions in the case of young girls who remain captives in the hands of the conquerors (Num., xxxi, 18). The severity of the anathema in the Old Testament is explained by the necessity there was of preserving the Jewish people and protecting them against the idolatry professed by the neighbouring pagans.
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Posted:Mar 02 2004 at 3:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) heres a thought lehto, how about just reading the info provided to you an stfu? Honeslty ppl like you p!ss me off, and i could careless if this is a waste of a post. I just get sick of ppl like you an their synical comments. If you disagree or find otherwise about this post then state it. Don't critsize something someone took forever to write.
Yevun wrote : heres a thought lehto, how about just reading the info provided to you an stfu? Honeslty ppl like you p!ss me off, and i could careless if this is a waste of a post. I just get sick of ppl like you an their synical comments. If you disagree or find otherwise about this post then state it. Don't critsize something someone took forever to write.
as for the post, i've found similar meaning with that word...found it partially ammusing as to what the word means , to what the weapon does.
Is it ok to criticize someone's spelling then, or is that taboo as well? Capitalization of proper nouns is also necessary for the english language.
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Posted:Jul 25 2003 at 4:24 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wasnt Anathema like an evil version of Excalibur *you know, King Arthurs sword* or am I a delusioned freak? ;)