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Posted:Mar 08 2004 at 5:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 99% of you do not know anything about druids and their place in a group, nor do you know about a clerics place. Druids can take a clerics place in a pre-elemental group, for instance if you were killing in solro. however, i find it harder to keep up with the damage output of the mobs in a PoEarth group for example, therefor, a cleric is a much better choice in an elemental EXP group, with the exception of tables etc. in pof. my input on this item is, it should go to a cleric or a druid, a shaman would benefit much more from an item with hp and mana, though it is still nice for them also.
why are you talking about poearth and solro on an item from TOFS? whether or not a druid can take a cleric's place in the ele planes has nothing to do with this item at all.
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Posted:Feb 26 2003 at 5:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Man Why do druids get this friggin item they are NOT preists like clerics just wis users i lost this to a friggin druid a while ago GRRRR..... druids they get all the want they just keep crying to Verant there practically taking the jobs of Clerics. Well but druids have no parts on raid OK WELL u can port and u can solo soo easy while clerics can't! GRRR
I have to say that i see no reason why a druid shouldnt have this over a cleric. I have a 51 druid myself and I know that i would love him to have this. Now id be a bit miffed if a beastlord won it over druid or cleric, but then they shouldnt need it. Shaman have just as much right to it too.
Oh and druids ARE priests, Negotiator. Priest classes in EQ are Cleric, Shaman and Druid. They dont need to melee, unless they are poor players of the class, or in the case of shamans have a damn good ac and can take hits. Priest classes, along with pure casters, should be sitting on their ***** medding, unless they are not really struggling for mana, in which case go ahead and get weapon skills up. So for this reason why would a druid need an Akhevan priest staff, apart from the wisdom and mana. I think they'll find a prelates lantern or similar just as good in primary, and oooh look you can't hit with it. Maybe that will stop all the crap druids running around getting agro off tanks.
As for druids doing a clerics job, then I know a druid who has done this on many an occaison and done, IMHO a damn fine job. And that is pre druid CH level, but over 50. So don't slate druids, they are almost as underated in groups as the poor old ranger. In fact give this to the rangers, just to make them feel better, and to stop Negotiator getting it :)
Why do you sound bitter just because you lost a roll? Suck it up and try again. EQ doesn't revolve around you. A druid will get just as much use out of this as you will.
I think this item, you cant melee with, a druid might stick with 1hb weapon instead, ...Akhevan Priest Staff looks much better to DRUID, but 50 mana, thats good in CLERIC.
hmmm 'druid will never replace a cleric' and '1hb would be better for druid' sounds to me like neither of you play often enough to know that 60+ druids have complete heal and better buffs then cleric (imo). Also the only classes that could ever use a weapon over mana post lvl 20 are mellee classes.
Believe it or not cammoflage works on all the mobs on the 4th floor, even the mummies! It makes hunting 4 much easier. I'm not sure if intel caster invis does or not since I always run cammo on the entire team.
4 is extremely dangerous, odds are you'll get rushed within seconds of hitting the floor and the best way to (semi) control agroes is to keep the entire team against the wall you port in through and have one person pulling. The entrance is the best place to pull to we've found.
A suggestion for the entire tower to prevent nasty CRs... Ensure that yur team has at least 2 sets of keys with one of the sets in the bank! Trying to get to 4 when your only set of keys in on yur body blows... Also a tracker is very helpful, keep an eye on teams on 7 spawning Tserrina, if they lose control and fail, she will start summoning people from all over the zone. I keep track up if there's a team on 7 and when Tserinna spawns I keep her on track. If she doesn't die in a reasonable amount of time we evac. We had our shammy summoned from 3 once while we were hunting keys for 4. If not for a friendly Neckro he'd have been there a while :)
Cammo works on all mobs on 4th floor barring one wandering mummy who can see standard and ivu. Standard invis and druid camo works fine throughout floor.
10 42-56 ppl we raided 4'th floor, 2 Clr (50) 1 sk (48) 1 Enc (42 me) 1 dru (44) 1 war (46) 1 bard (45'ish) 1 Rng (45'ish) 1 Mage (50 something) 1 shm (50 i think)
We got a prochey scroll (a Clr won) 2 Ro's fiery Sundering 1 turning of unattureal 1 Enbalmer's skinning knife some gnome skin various shadowed weapons or whatever they called
GREAT place for raids we took 4'th e z we got stuck there campin 5'th key can't wait till next raid and we move on up.
ok so my friends and i--lvl 41 war 37 ench 37 rouge and me a 31 cleric ventured to the 4th floor last night and we got creamed......i'm thinking everyone needs to be atleast 40.
BTW still coming up with a plan to get our corpses out LOL since the one with the keys--ME happens to be decaying as we speak...=(
"an ancient mumie" is the PH for Amanhotep. That can be any mumie on the floor, so if it´s not up, just go camp one mumie (prefferably the one when you go all the way right from pop in for there are less roamer) if you kill more than one mumie in the spawn cycle (20 mins) Amanhotep can spawn in their place and for the roamer you never know where that is. Amanhotep will not roam. Dropt for us: Sparkling Soul Neclace first time, Prophecy Scroll second.
once Amanhotep is dead, Cara will spawn. and only than. she will be in the room just bevor the mirrors. She has not to be killed to respawn Amanhotep but killing her bevor killing Amanhotep is a good idea if you can handle to get past all the stuff in between (now you see why killing the one mumie near entrance is advised.. only 6 shadows in between there and Cara plus a wandering mumie and flesh) .. prolly the nicest item is her sorcerers bowl and you can see her wielding it when she has it. (Rogues really have an advantage on her, same on Daman on 5th, for they do not have to see her face ;o) One more noticable NPC is a named Armored shadow that spawns randomly with any normal shadow as his PH. Dropt a nice SK shield for us.
for all the Floor:
there are A LOT of hidden walls here and not one map i have found is good enough to help you learn to know this floor so just explore it if you can by sneaking or if you have to: the brutal way ;o)
there are some pit traps in here that all drop you in a hallway that leads to a room with a torch. that torch will port you to the floor entrance point.
have a Tracker with you or a rogue that knows this place GOOD (or both :o) And MOST importantly for this floor: someone that can EVAC! things on 4th will turn nasty at some point.
Be prepaired to fight in here. Rogue´s sneak and hide definitly worked for me (48th season, Sneak/Hide both well above 150) but moving through just using Ivu will get you killed once it runs out. I´m not even sure if it works on all mobs in here. Same with Camou. the mumies will prolly see through that but i was standing in front of Amanhotep with it and he did not. We had quite some argument about this in our group last night for it got late and we all needed to get through here real fast on a cr to 5th. (Pulling there is not a good idea when the Healer is afk. Sure you can handle any single mob up there. but when you get 2 enraged relatives in a row you know what i mean)
Nice guide! One small correction: I *have* seen Amanhotep roam, he was inbetween the shadows and carra's room last time I was there. The bad thing is that the 5th floor is so much easier than this floor. Maybe it was done to keep the farmers out of the wedding
Aye, I too have witnessed the named mummy roaming about. Killed him and looted the Neck item (cant remember the name). Killed Cara and won the roll on the bowl. Behold she was carring the Enbalming dagger and a key to the 5th. Great evening for me. LoL WoW all 3 items on the same MoB. Group was a 45 Warrior, 45 cleric, 38 druidess, 39 wizard, 38 chanter. No problems at all. Great exp and awsome PP drops from all MoB's
My group was collecting keyys for an up coming raid and inorder to get the key to level 5 you have to kill Amonpheta to get cara the key holder to spawn. we killed Amonpheta 3 times and twice she dropped a necklace and the thrid time was this scrool. equip by clr/drd/shm all races primary only
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Posted:Dec 04 2001 at 12:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh you poor poor put upon Asslings... after all, it's not as if the gem for YOUR racial imbued armor can be foraged and Wood Elves costs 15pp a pop... oh wait, yes it is... well then, it's not like there are about 6 or 7 Assling only items a Wood Elf druid would kill for... oh wait, it's that too... Well hmmm... I guess you should just enjoy what you have, and STHU... oh, and btw, when it was made druid usable, it was made Assling usable too.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Feb 21 2001 at 7:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh man, now I know it. Verant MUST be on crack or even worse stuff. WTH no Dr00ds...WTH no dorfs and Halflings??...AND, since when can Halfelfs be Shamans or Clerics.......*wants the stuff Verant takes too*
I got this nice item on 4th floor OTW to kill Cara. It has lovely stats..BUT It is Primary slot not range ... At least it says Primary.. Lol havent tried into range slot. Looks like a rolled up scroll. Maybe they nerfed it. BTW be careful on fourth is is very dangerous.
I went to Tower of Frozen Shadow last night and what a let down. After about 6 Amons, he dropped the scroll. Got excited and tried to put in range slot. Welp, it is primary slot only. This needs to be taken out of the range slot section, it is incorrectly categorized.
CLR SHM HUM BAR ERU HIE DEF HEF .. only shaman race listed is BAR .. HEF can be neither CLR or SHM
(well.. I posted erroneously about the BCP having the wrong stats here, and not sure if it was corrected, but finding many Velious items with mismatched Race/Class combos )
I think that one might be right.. at this time Woodelves and Halfelves dont have a model display for robes, they were working on it before Velious was released but havnt heard anything about it since then. get a move on Verant!
#Anonymous,
Posted:Dec 20 2000 at 8:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not compatible? Shamans don't have crap for wisdom gear. And Clerics are freaking Verant pets.Druids do else wear besides range. Let us have our whole 1 slot. Lay off my class and shut up
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Posted:Dec 20 2000 at 6:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i am kuni !
sick of hearing Druids *****. i'm a shaman supposedly the best group buffer but do i get group sow or group regen...no druids get both. can i tp anywhere in Norrath. no. can i camp for named with my tracking skill. no. get the picture. shut up whining druids you make me sick. you're the most balanced class in the game and masters of utility spells. like the one guy said, if you want a good item you most likely have to buy from a farming druid.
my friend i feel your pain, my group killed this ph and i was only cleric in group, it is no drop and shami cleric wisdom item, sadly to say i looted it and couldnt use it, Dwarven race, that was lousey to find out that i couldnt use it, testament of veneer, still, oh well, ill keep searching, bonzz out here
Par for the course. Verant hates Druids! oh, so we fianlly got quest armor you say??? well...yes, but its about 20 levels harder to get than every other pre Velious quest armor. Or you could spend 10-15kpp (or $60.00 usd ;) on a totem that are farmed 24/7 in Kunark. And that about does it for anything of any use or value for driud ranged slots. oh well.
ROFLMAO hehehe its funny all u droods think your hard done by. 99% of the farmed items in the game are farmed by droods and now they complain when there is an item they cant use. We all know if we want one we will have to buy on off one of u farming droods.
I agree ... maybe you druids cant farm many dungeon drops (thank Rallos Zek) but you all farm the heck out of everything else you possibly can. You dr00ds think you have it so hard, whine whine cry for me, give me a break you can solo or group with the best of them so quit your whining!!!
Hate to break it to ya...post 50, mages and necros are the biggest farmers. I've never seen a druid farming for that matter. Druids just don't have the firepower or pet to get away with it after 50. Or in dungeons where they can't get room to re-root.
Forth floor, friend. Had one drop the other night, too bad no one in our group could use it. Some necro picked it up because he thought it was used for the 8th floor key quest. By the way, to get Amonepheta to spawn, your best bet is to kill all the mummy-like creatures on the floor. He will then spawn at the entrance to the forth floor. Good luck all.