Scars of Velious
Got this tonight!! Great, fast-paced raid clearing NTOV and our Raid leader decided to do the Vulak ring! Went very smoothe and in bewteen waves I decided to peek at his loot and saw this link, kept scrolling cause im a BST and this pic only shows MNK, but when it dropped!! Lo and Behold has Beastlord on it now, Gratz Me WOOT was very pleased with it 80 HP lifetap rules! Submitting new pic for Alla. The graphic is just a pulsing red orb on the hand nothing spectacular but when people inspect and I link it to them I almost always get a WOW! TY Wudan =p
Ewar Stooge
65th Season Beastlord
Rallos Zek Server
Edited, Fri Apr 23 02:36:59 2004
Gharn's Rock of Smashing
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24 posts
when you say vulak is broken what do you mean hes not spawning been nerfed i just wanna know b/c i wanna get a guild that can get this guy and go after eaither this rock or abashi's rod
Larynx Throatchop
58 monk
Ayonae Ro
Larynx Throatchop
58 monk
Ayonae Ro
They fixed the Ring of Vulak and yes he is spawning. Primal Evolution on Morell Thule has dropped him twice since Oct. 1st 2003. Everything went well, an abnormally long pause between waves, but it gave everyone a chance to talk. So far he's dropping spells more than anything, and we've seen none of his best goodies: Rod, Belt, Gloves. Just the Robe, a Dagger, and some iffy other bits. Most Pop Guilds these days able to Drop Saryrn or Agnarr should have little problems with the Ring or the big Lizard himself.
Master Aeldwan the Coercer and Decimator Buddercup Voxslayer of MT/Emarr
Glance the Stabber, Raiding Rogue of The Last Revolution
Kaarse the Ash Warden, Striker of the Black Desert
Keonka the Mangler of Drenden and Kager Ironveins Paladin of Arathor
Skuffal Skugbref of Chaos Wastes
Raene, Defiant of Harrow
Argus Grimm Elite Sniper of Auraxis and the 2RAF
"Doing the improbable daily to make the impossible seem easy"
Glance the Stabber, Raiding Rogue of The Last Revolution
Kaarse the Ash Warden, Striker of the Black Desert
Keonka the Mangler of Drenden and Kager Ironveins Paladin of Arathor
Skuffal Skugbref of Chaos Wastes
Raene, Defiant of Harrow
Argus Grimm Elite Sniper of Auraxis and the 2RAF
"Doing the improbable daily to make the impossible seem easy"
41 posts
Does anyone know the look on this wep? It just a glowing red fist?...or....
2 posts
Um if delay can't drop past 10, why is there a 1/4 dagger?
18 posts
Ok, im not here to offend anyone, but to those of you crying about it being monk only, you need to sit down and think about game balance before you go running your mouth about how monks get it easy, and to the warrior who said he doesnt understand why its not warrior usable, do you not think that wuld make you extremely overpowered? i mean having the most hp, best defensive capabilitys, and in my opinion, the best disciplines in the game.. isnt that enough to satisfy you? i mean damn can you imagine how easily a warr could keep taunt with this weapon, it would make the game too easy
7 posts
Greetings all..! (and the dumb people too)
This is argueably the BEST Monk weapon available for pure dmg output.
I think reading 20 lines of BullSh!t is funny as hell...
EverQuest has been out for over 3 years and the Formulas for damage output have ben known FOREVER..! So debating facts is poitless...!
For all of you who beleive that a weapons delay can go past 9... you have to understand what delay is..! a delay of 10 is 1 SECOND ...! Hard for clients to update to server & vice versa faster than that..
After a huge parsing done late in 2000 it was shown that the Moss Covered Twig(3/10)with 80% haste had no more damage output than with 40% haste. A HUGE debate ensued.. but in the end it was proven that a delay lower than 9 isnt possable.
So with that the only fact in Question here is the Formulas for the semi re-ignorant that have not the capacity to look them up.
DMG x 2 + Bonus (.78) / DLY(100/(100+haste))
For those of you not so savvy in remediel math I will us the Jade Mace as an example.
Damage modal:
9/18
9 x 2 + 11= 29 (.78)
29(.78)= 22dmg (rounded down)
Delay modal:
22{dmg} / DLY(100/(100+haste))
22{dmg} / 18(100/(100+22% haste))
22{dmg} / 18(100/122)
22{dmg} / 18(.81)
22{dmg} / 15 [14.58 rounded up]
22/15= 1.46
There it is, FACT !
It was used a Bonus of 11 wich a lvl 60 Monk gets... for more info please visit Monkly Business and see the details.
Monk Epic's:
9/16
22/16= 1.37 (normal)
22/12= 1.83 (activating the Epic's haste 40%)
22/10= 2.20 (activating the Epic & FBSS)
now work your own abacus and figure out what Gharn's rock at 16/19 be ....
Edited, Thu Jun 6 16:12:25 2002
This is argueably the BEST Monk weapon available for pure dmg output.
I think reading 20 lines of BullSh!t is funny as hell...
EverQuest has been out for over 3 years and the Formulas for damage output have ben known FOREVER..! So debating facts is poitless...!
For all of you who beleive that a weapons delay can go past 9... you have to understand what delay is..! a delay of 10 is 1 SECOND ...! Hard for clients to update to server & vice versa faster than that..
After a huge parsing done late in 2000 it was shown that the Moss Covered Twig(3/10)with 80% haste had no more damage output than with 40% haste. A HUGE debate ensued.. but in the end it was proven that a delay lower than 9 isnt possable.
So with that the only fact in Question here is the Formulas for the semi re-ignorant that have not the capacity to look them up.
DMG x 2 + Bonus (.78) / DLY(100/(100+haste))
For those of you not so savvy in remediel math I will us the Jade Mace as an example.
Damage modal:
9/18
9 x 2 + 11= 29 (.78)
29(.78)= 22dmg (rounded down)
Delay modal:
22{dmg} / DLY(100/(100+haste))
22{dmg} / 18(100/(100+22% haste))
22{dmg} / 18(100/122)
22{dmg} / 18(.81)
22{dmg} / 15 [14.58 rounded up]
22/15= 1.46
There it is, FACT !
It was used a Bonus of 11 wich a lvl 60 Monk gets... for more info please visit Monkly Business and see the details.
Monk Epic's:
9/16
22/16= 1.37 (normal)
22/12= 1.83 (activating the Epic's haste 40%)
22/10= 2.20 (activating the Epic & FBSS)
now work your own abacus and figure out what Gharn's rock at 16/19 be ....
Edited, Thu Jun 6 16:12:25 2002
32 posts
hmm, i've hit for far over 22 or whatever the figure was with a 9 damage weapon, even at 56 where the damage bonus is only 10. dont think that damage formula quite adds up unless i'm just not getting what its formulating.
27 posts
OK, i dont claim to know alot about the technical side of this game. But i would like to point out to ALL of you who are arguing about the 10dly "cap". In sslanis's post he said that the moss covered twig ( 3dmg 10dly weapon) was parsed and shown that with 40 or 80 percent haste there was no differance. Whether this was actually done or not i dont know, but if it WERE true that dly cant go below 10 WHY DID VI NERF THE WEAPON?? if a weapon cant go below 10 dly , than this weapon with haste or without haste is still 3dmg 10 dly, and lets say a 10dmg 20 dly weapon with max haste is 10dmg 10 dly. Why in the hell would VI Nerf a 3dmg 10 dly weapon that cant be hasted, and leave in a 10dmg 20 dly weapon that can be hasted down to 10?? seems like they went out of thier way to nerf a crappy weapon huh? To me its VERY OBVIOUS that dly CAN go below 10 dly. Why else would they have nerfed this weapon. Common sense and awareness IMO.
7 posts
Greetings again...!
Because without haste and add a 10+ dmg bonus most melee get is would be a 13/10 weapon ..!
Like i stated previously is is rather hard to get below a 9 delay cause it means less than 1 SECOND, your client doesnt speak to the server that often and lag play a part in all of that. Most people know their DPS goes down on raids due to some sort of "server-bog" due to massive combat mechanics.
Parse any weapon solo with no one around, then do same mob with Raid force tackling the mob... your DPS will go down slightly
It is safe to say most weapons will max at 10 dly...!
Edited, Wed Nov 13 18:57:34 2002
Because without haste and add a 10+ dmg bonus most melee get is would be a 13/10 weapon ..!
Like i stated previously is is rather hard to get below a 9 delay cause it means less than 1 SECOND, your client doesnt speak to the server that often and lag play a part in all of that. Most people know their DPS goes down on raids due to some sort of "server-bog" due to massive combat mechanics.
Parse any weapon solo with no one around, then do same mob with Raid force tackling the mob... your DPS will go down slightly
It is safe to say most weapons will max at 10 dly...!
Edited, Wed Nov 13 18:57:34 2002
you dont add the dmg bonus to the 3/10 making it a 13/10 you fugure the dmg off of the 3 then add 10
1) You're a moron because you are stating something you have no clue about as fact. Delay under 9 (or 10 or whatever number nutcases who like to make crap up come up with for the day) is possible. Don't believe me if you want, but that is the truth. Go try it IN GAME before you start spouting off crap. Otherwise you're saying the monk epic does the same amount of damage as a Jade Mace with the same amount of haste.
2) This weapon was changed to hand to hand.
3) None have entered the game recently because Vulak is broken :(.
Edited, Tue Jul 16 15:09:23 2002
2) This weapon was changed to hand to hand.
3) None have entered the game recently because Vulak is broken :(.
Edited, Tue Jul 16 15:09:23 2002
Actually, it is possible that 9 is the lowest delay. Parses have proven that delay can go below -10- but to my knowlege (and yes, I do read a lot) no one has ever proven that delay can go below 9. Maybe YOU should go try it IN GAME. How about you show me a parsed log proving you can have lower than 9 delay.
Idea time! Why don't we all stop bickering pointlessly at each other, that way maybe something will be accomplished! But as for the 9 delay cap, that just seems ludicrous b/c like the man said, why use monk epic when with the same amount of haste you could do the same amount of damage with a 2k Jade Mace? IF it's true, then go for the highest damage possible while keeping 9 delay with haste still possible... But the better idea is just to play the game. Really folks, it's a game, not a lifestyle.
9 posts
Actually lowest delay you can get is 6.
1 post
First of all, alot of you talk without knowing. Second of all, alot of you talk just to hear yerself talk. Monks can completely clear aggro with FD. If you have the skill points from Shadows of Luclin, you can fd every 5 seconds, if not, every 10 seconds. Warriors will always be main tanks cause of defensive discipline. 16/19 does rock, and when I get this, i'll have 2 16/19 weapons. Fist of Acrylia in main and this in offhand. 9/16 is NOT better than 16/19 for a few reasons, there is a LIMIT to the haste you can get and on 9/16, 9/10 is as best you can get. But on 16/19, you can get it down to 16/10..do the math... Doubling the damage or reducing the delay, either way, it comes out more damage..showing a reduced delay is just one way of expressing haste. "it just looks faster?", um, hello? re read what you said...you are attacking faster. This happens to be a rare drop off of Vulak'Aerr...and he's doable with 40 ppl.
Scholar
38 posts
Why would you put Fist of Acrylia in main ? both are 16dmg 19dly, 1 has a 150dd and other has a 100pt life tap. If I were you I would use Gharn's Rock of Smashing in primary provided you ever see it =)
Vulak is working on Mith, Afterlife took him down recently, its like 10th ring war now, or any of those Ring Quests in Acrylia. Something like 3 hours before he spawns. Check their site out http:www.afterlifeguild.org
As for Haste. /shrug. It all depends on who you ask. If you ask me, delay is harder to get lower than 10 because the lower your delay the less haste it takes off. Like a 100dly weapon with 50percent haste would be 50dly ( This is NOT how haste is calculated though. Just an example ) so if you do a 20dly, 50haste is only 10dly off. So lower the delay you have the harder it is to get it lower. And then soon you are only taking off smaller than 1 numbers.
/rant off. Show me some logs pls. =)
Brother Kayto 60 Monk Mithaniel Marr
Vulak is working on Mith, Afterlife took him down recently, its like 10th ring war now, or any of those Ring Quests in Acrylia. Something like 3 hours before he spawns. Check their site out http:www.afterlifeguild.org
As for Haste. /shrug. It all depends on who you ask. If you ask me, delay is harder to get lower than 10 because the lower your delay the less haste it takes off. Like a 100dly weapon with 50percent haste would be 50dly ( This is NOT how haste is calculated though. Just an example ) so if you do a 20dly, 50haste is only 10dly off. So lower the delay you have the harder it is to get it lower. And then soon you are only taking off smaller than 1 numbers.
/rant off. Show me some logs pls. =)
Brother Kayto 60 Monk Mithaniel Marr
3 posts
Actually you are partly incorrect. With timers and such it has been proven that the delay of the weapon can NOT go under or even to the damage with items or spells so the least you can go on this would be 16/17 which still is uber. The ONLY possible way to get your delay under damage is to actually have the weapon come like that (ton pon's bo stick of understanding for example ... it comes out of the mobs hands 44/40)
Yes, you are very wrong, with haste items/spells that dly can go below the dmg. And also there is no 10dly limit, most people just go around repeating this, but it was orginally thought there was a 10 dly limit because one you get the dly down that far you are usually near the haste% cap and you need more haste to make a noticeable difference.
Edited, Thu May 16 21:01:13 2002
Edited, Thu May 16 21:01:13 2002
What about that 2/6 dagger you can get on the plain of air? with haste you could get 2 or 1 haste i bet, because 75 percent haste would get it to 1.5 delay about, so i assume its possible.
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=741125
Kodest Mistsong
Kodest Mistsong
1 post
Edited, Sun Apr 7 04:38:27 2002
44 posts
The only limiting factor on delay is the amount of haste you can get and the original delay of the weapon.
There's NO hard coded limit on delay.
Want proof? use /log with and without haste and do it ya damn self, lazy bastards.
There's NO hard coded limit on delay.
Want proof? use /log with and without haste and do it ya damn self, lazy bastards.
22 posts
you're wrong, you can get the delay under the damage of a weapon, it has been proven
20 posts
Werid my wu's fist as been timed under 16 deley, but the damage is 16...so maybe your just going off something someone else was BSing about but anyway you look at it thats wrong... and back to the weapon were looking at, WOW darn you Arlos =)
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 04 2002 at 11:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I know a monk who has two of these.. seriously, but then he can probally tank better than most level 60 warriors i know. His guild gives him ever ubah monk item you can imgaine. Besides the fact that monks can FD to clear some argo, and any warrior fighting with a monk with these probally has equipment enabling him to keep the argo.
21 posts
I dont know if it has changed, but how can he have two of em? they are lore, according to the pic at least.
last time I saw this I belive it was 6/13 and all melee usable. now it's 16/19 and monk only? I generaly don't dream of putting monk only items on my warrior...and I tend to notice things like useable classes. Can anyone confirm the nerf? (like someone that had one of these in early 2001?)
Meirril, Fennin Ro
Edited, Mon Dec 31 19:44:03 2001
Meirril, Fennin Ro
Edited, Mon Dec 31 19:44:03 2001
15 posts
one of these awsome weapons rotted on Morrel Thule....
20 posts
Rofl..rotted on morrel thule? thats ********* It really rotted? Are you telling me that the raid you were on killed Vulak Aerr and had NO monk? Haha, I find that extremely hard to believe..
5 posts
Why dont they give this to a warrior and give the ungodly 2 hd weaopons to the monks. That way us warriors can do our job which is to keep the monks alive otherwise monks wont last with this weaopon on a tough mob.
10 posts
Um, have you people noticed it says 16/19 and not 6/19? SIXTEEN damage, NINETEEN delay. SIXTEEN/NINETEEN got it? good.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Nov 15 2001 at 9:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well i was on my cleric (lvl 18) soloing in west waste but i get bored there so then i go solo in temple of the veeshan dragon for a while then i look for a group so im /ooc 18 cleric LFG and i obviously being a cleric got like 10 tells so i said is there somebody camping the vulak`errr so this 12 necro sends me a tell and then we grouped and i won the roll on this it is about 80% haste i think im not sure my pet was hitting faster with it for sure but its ok thx
24 posts
If you ever learn to read you might notice its monk only...aka no frikken Rangor or drooid or Bard will ever lay hands on this nice weapon...
eh as i recall, this item was revamped to be monk only and have much better stats than its earlier version. don't remember the stats but i'm pretty sure it wasn't monk only=P
32 posts
You must be STOOOOPID too, you obviously can't spell.
Anonymous
arguably the best 1hb in the game...
NOW.....no doubt
*cough *cough
http://pub38.ezboard.com/fmonklybusiness43508frm3.showMessage?topicID=4617.topic
NOW.....no doubt
*cough *cough
http://pub38.ezboard.com/fmonklybusiness43508frm3.showMessage?topicID=4617.topic
ummm... NO! there is a 60 40 1hb that is nec/wiz/enc/mag only but it gives -50 int so no one in there right mind would use it unless oom. If you say, "that's for casters, it doesn't count," then take a loot at the sledge of smashing.
Sledge of Smashing
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Skill: 1HB Atk Delay:25
DMG: 27 WT: 0.0 Damage per sec:22.00
AC+25 INT+9 WIS+9
Effect: Wrath (unlimited charges-combat)
Class: PAL SHD
Race: ALL
Wrath: 218 points of damage instantly
Sledge of Smashing
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Skill: 1HB Atk Delay:25
DMG: 27 WT: 0.0 Damage per sec:22.00
AC+25 INT+9 WIS+9
Effect: Wrath (unlimited charges-combat)
Class: PAL SHD
Race: ALL
Wrath: 218 points of damage instantly
26 posts
Ok, people, you have to realize that you get a damage bonus on every hit with your main hand. This is why you want delay over anything else in your main hand, as it will up your overall damage over time. Also, you have to keep in mind that the more you hit, the more chances you have to double attack. This vicious little weapon would actually outdamage Celestial Fists, which are 9/16. Sure, they have the superior ratio, but it comes down to that 3 less delay. That adds up to a lot more hits over a long fight. The rule of thumb is lowest delay in the main, best ratio in the off. This is why Wurmslayer isn't as godly as it seems, because it's primary only. The slowness of it offsets the fact that it has an excellent ratio. Just wanted to clear up all these little newbie posts on this thing suckin, I think it's probably the best 1hb in the game.
36 posts
This is probably most likely not going to a warrior, because it won't taunt, unless the warrior isn't the main tank =) ever..... This will probably go on a monk, bard, or ranger
Imagine how fast i could kill those pesky mobs when i run outta mana and they just start running away after a long kite and with snare they just stand there while i beat on it for 5's and 10's with my 6/33 weapon! woohoo rofl
Teadyn - 43rd Druid
Imagine how fast i could kill those pesky mobs when i run outta mana and they just start running away after a long kite and with snare they just stand there while i beat on it for 5's and 10's with my 6/33 weapon! woohoo rofl
Teadyn - 43rd Druid
1 post
Some of you guys don't realize that direct ratios aren't the only measuring tool for how good a weapon is.
15 posts
Trust me, that awesome low delay beats the crap out of my iksar bezerker club (which I still use BTW mainly for PVP)... talk about major interrupts with that bad boy, stick it on a bard, and watch them swing like mad. =)
6 posts
The fact that most of the people who post on this site don't realize is that yes there may be better items in the game for a specific perpose, whether be it taunting damage dealing or just plain stat mod *cough*casters*cough*, This weapon seems to have been set up w/ a specific purpose in mind by VI. Granted everybody seems to get their jollies by badmouthing VI about these kind of things, they just don't sit back and say Hey that's a nice weapon or i think i could use that, they just flame it, and petition till it gets nerfed just because they don't like it. I like this weapon. It's a tank weapon. Taunt, Hp, Ac (small plus due to agi addition). What warrior could want more.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Aug 16 2001 at 8:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There's at least 4 easier to get weapons that both taunt and outdamage it. Scepter of destruction, for instance, has it beat both as a damage dealer and a taunter. They should have given it a decent taunt proc.
Wouldn't a Scepter of Destruction be HARDER to get????????
Anonymous
Nah, you can get the scepter of destruction with only 3 full grps or less, while it would take like 10-15 full grps to get this.
Scholar
42 posts
Vulak is doable with 8 groups, not 10 - 15. Also, 6/13 is the most massive taunt there could be, short of maybe a SoD, maybe. But now that its 16/19, procs 80 dam lifetap, it should outtaunt a SoD.
22 posts
Im my seasoned opinion, i think this is the lowest Development is will to go as far as dly. Coming from a person who has played with twib/branch/standard i can safely say this weapon pushes the envelope but still remains sensible.
The weight is pointless to argue, mainly because zero stamina does affect you with more than 100 sta, which better! be everyone who is at a Vulak raid. Secondly, most 1h weapons are 2.5 - 4.0 so 5.0 is nothing, even with a dly of 13, so it will not drain your stamina fast at all...
Next, there are only 5 or so guilds capable of killing all of North ToV and Vulak (you know who you are). So this weapon is in a skill bracket that most of you will never see, and is VERY fitting to its risk/reward.
The only reason the Moss Covered Twig,Branch were nixed is because they were dropping from mobs that were a joke to a few low 50's. The standard was nixed after the fact when the moss' was long since nerfed. They didnt intend for a quest item to be used like that, and was long since forgotten. So they took care of it, eventhough the risk/reward for the battle was relatively fair, considering the weapon was not magical.
I am actually applauding (its rare) the Development crew for their well thought out planning of the reintroduction of a moss-like weapon, and putting it in an appropriate skill bracket so it would only be obtainable by those who have earned the right to weild it. Until you have fought and defeated a mob of this calibur, i urge you to silence your jealousy and realize the effort it takes to accomplish a goal such as this, and to recieve a reward as just as this one.
Well done...
The weight is pointless to argue, mainly because zero stamina does affect you with more than 100 sta, which better! be everyone who is at a Vulak raid. Secondly, most 1h weapons are 2.5 - 4.0 so 5.0 is nothing, even with a dly of 13, so it will not drain your stamina fast at all...
Next, there are only 5 or so guilds capable of killing all of North ToV and Vulak (you know who you are). So this weapon is in a skill bracket that most of you will never see, and is VERY fitting to its risk/reward.
The only reason the Moss Covered Twig,Branch were nixed is because they were dropping from mobs that were a joke to a few low 50's. The standard was nixed after the fact when the moss' was long since nerfed. They didnt intend for a quest item to be used like that, and was long since forgotten. So they took care of it, eventhough the risk/reward for the battle was relatively fair, considering the weapon was not magical.
I am actually applauding (its rare) the Development crew for their well thought out planning of the reintroduction of a moss-like weapon, and putting it in an appropriate skill bracket so it would only be obtainable by those who have earned the right to weild it. Until you have fought and defeated a mob of this calibur, i urge you to silence your jealousy and realize the effort it takes to accomplish a goal such as this, and to recieve a reward as just as this one.
Well done...
Anonymous
Guys, there's no delay cap, first off.
Secondly, this wep is very good due to the primary hand dmg bonus, and also taunt factor.
It's not that hard.
Secondly, this wep is very good due to the primary hand dmg bonus, and also taunt factor.
It's not that hard.
4 posts
Recent tests on the monkly-business newsboards have shown that as the difficulty of a mob increses, lower-delay weapons do relatively more damage (in the main hand). This is as a because you hit for the minimum damage so often, the damage of the weapon becomes less important. These studies showed that a 9/16 weapon did more than a 13/20, so it's quite possible that against very hard mobs the 6/13 does even more damage than the 9/16.
Palanka Wu
Lvl 59 monk on Brell Serilis
Misericordia
Palanka Wu
Lvl 59 monk on Brell Serilis
Misericordia
22 posts
Ok, the damage suxs, but the 15 agi means roughly plus five to your over all ac, maybe more. I would use this weapon even if it was just to increase my 1hb skill.
Clevner Oakthistle, ranger 49
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