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Burning Embers  

WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Item Type:Misc
Submitted By:Fleven
Lucy Entry By:Chromite
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2020-06-25 00:19:26
Page Updated:Sat Sep 7th, 2019
Ruins of Kunark Item

Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 1

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updating spawn cycle list
# Aug 27 2017 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
10 posts
Just to update the span cycle list... on Aggnar server.

a scoriae hornet
an ember hornet
a sarnak zealot
a sarnak champion
greater plague skeleton
a forest giant ancient
a forest giant verdant
This might be worse than Quillmane
# Jul 15 2016 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
Been camping both spawn points and have killed over 40 named wurms so far between the two spots -- still no Burning Embers. Only had to kill Quillmane a dozen times or so before the cloak dropped, so this seems much worse to me.

And I agree with whoever said that the person who wrote this quest must have hated Mages.
This might be worse than Quillmane
# Mar 22 2017 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
25 posts
completely agree, this item drop rate is Ultra Rare....

and this mob has g○d d○mn PH....

this quest designer must really hate magicians....

and i don't understand why a MMO RPG most make players need to spend their most time to camp something? is player's time not time? or these designer think we players are some kind of trash, our time only worth for their XXX games? this IS unhealthy!!
This might be worse than Quillmane
# Oct 12 2019 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
14 posts
Considering you are probably so far above the level this was designed for, you might want to think about this: The quest was designed with the idea you would be leveling WHILE doing the quest, not already so high a level that these mobs are green or grey to you. Also, when the epics came out, Sony hadn't changed the experience gain to what it currently is, where you can level a toon from 0 to 45 in about 2 days. Back then, we would grind for days just to get from lvl 40 to 41!!! So quit your ********* and go do something else instead. Fing cry babies nowadays!
Named Wurms
# Feb 23 2015 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
Killed Nezekezena, looted everything and didn't click DONE...stayed on dead mob inventory till it vanished...seconds later Nezekezena popped again...and again...and again.... got my Burning Embers on like the 6th kill....all in less than a minute. WOW. Accidental trick.
Phur and Nez
# Dec 07 2014 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
8 posts
I have spent the better part of 6 hours on this camp. If you look at the map on magelo, it would suggest they both found in the Eastern section of the zone. For me they did not. After killing everything in this area, I tracked Nez and Phur to the North Western part of the zone about 3 times. I finally lucked up and found Nez on his spawn point.

They BOTH spawned off of the same point P2790 , P1030.

Place holders included basically every type mob in the zone: Sarnaks, Giants, Hornets, Gorillas, Skeletons

Spawn time is 64 Seconds.

Spawn rate was about 3 in 50 for either of the two named wurms.

I parked my mage at this point to keep the PH down and continued to run thoughout the zone with my Ranger and kill everything else that moved. I over 4 hours or so, I never had either name spawn from any other point in the zone.
Found the point
# Feb 02 2014 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
OK, found the spawn point, so I just parked my pet, merc and stop by every few minutes. Wow though, I am over 20 kills of Nezekezena & Phurzikon and still no embers yet. Half of the time (or more now) I have gotten the bard epic gut piece.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2014 8:48pm by lambardi
MQ on Xegony
# Oct 16 2013 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
MQ on Xegony

PM Fungess
3 nameds
# Aug 19 2013 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
56 posts
After 2 hours camping here I had 3 nameds spawn in a row 3rd named dropped burning embers on the rathe. Good luck.
# May 04 2013 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
4,445 posts
Well like every other blasted drop on this quest this item is no easier to obtain. I have downed well over a dozen of the named wurms. Have seen 4 guts for Bard Epic, one wurmscale cloak, and obviously 0 mage drops.

Seriously whoever wrote Mage epic 1.0 really must hate mages. Every single drop for this quest is a miserable camp. Took 19 kills on Phin Autodrops for the mage item to drop, weeks of camping for Quillmane.

While typing till 3 more named kills with nothing..
Map Point
# Apr 29 2013 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
Add this to your burning woods.txt in your map folder

P 2544.7681, 462.4556, -379.4064, 240, 0, 0, 3, Nezekezena's_PH
Burning Embers drop
# Aug 21 2011 at 2:42 AM Rating: Decent
1 post
Ok guys this is how you do it. The spawn point is -462, -2541.
First your going to have to kill everything around the area till you kill the place holder. then when the named spawns up kill him and stand on that loc that I posted. Place holders will spawn on the spot about every 1:30 min. Just kill them one after another and the name will spawn over and over again without haveing to run all over the place.
Alternate Neze/Phurz spawn point
# Jul 11 2011 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
153 posts
I have posted my experience with a second spawn point for Phurzikon and Nezekezena on Nezes page. The Location is Pos 2797 pos 1027 .

The link to the post is here .....

I hope this helps all you hunting this mob.
Focus on Loc -477, -2554
# Jan 03 2010 at 4:45 AM Rating: Decent
Just want to add another confirmation that Nezekezena & Phurzikon spawn, or at least can definitely spawn at loc -477, -2554. Ideally you'd want to have another person with you while camping for this piece, unless one of Phurzikon or Nezekezena are already up.

If neither of them are up, have one person stay at that exact location, and the other person just mass kill anything they can find in that general area, or anywhere I suppose, but I'd start there in that vicinity. Once you get a mob to spawn at that location, then THAT mob will start the PH cycle. Once the mob that spawns there dies, approx ~80 seconds later another mob will spawn. Most of the time this will be a PH (place holder mob such as a sarnak, hornet, giant, skelly, undead ape, etc.), other times it can be either 2 of the above named Wurms. While camping that spot, I never did see Gylton spawn there, but probably had a mix of at least 10-15+ spawns of Nez and Phurz.

I got the bard epic/gut item like 3 or 4 times before FINALLY getting the mage piece. Not a horrible camp once you kill the wandering PH mob, and have the rotation locked at 80 seconds. From that point it's just patience and being hopeful about getting the correct drop.

Good luck on your Epics! =)
Nez/Pher spawn loc
# Aug 28 2009 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
5 posts
+2788.36 , +1015.32 on the small dirt path kill everything around that area 78 second spawn time once you isolate the spawn you will get nez/pher 1 in 4 spawns afterwards.

Edited, Aug 28th 2009 12:43pm by Checkers
yes and yes
# Sep 11 2008 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
514 posts
Nezekezena and Phurzokon still drop.

I had to kill over a dozen of Phurzikons (never dropped the embers)
and half as many Nezekezenas (always dropped the bard epic item)...
until today.

First named wurm I saw today was Neze,
and it DID NOT drop the guts,
but it DID drop Burning Embers.

That's odd, but I'm happy!
~ Muse Temperance the Elf
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What luck!
# Jun 27 2008 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
Just as my high lvl berserker partner was about to leave cuz he had stuff to do(been campin this and dirt from slix for several hours) nez spawns again... and has it! almost had to solo em or get new help :0'

Edited, Jun 27th 2008 8:54pm by snarlinarlen
# Mar 12 2008 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
Does Phurzikon still pop? I've tried for two days to get this guy and no luck.
Any help would be appreciated!

If anyone knows the camp spot please let me know.

And I agree, I think They do have it out for mages!
5 hours
# Feb 29 2008 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
74 posts
5 hours at the camp spot, 32 named spawns between Phur and Nez combined... no burning embers. With the trouble I've had from this epic in comparison to any other class, I'd have to say verant had it out for mages.
5 hours
# Mar 02 2008 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
200 posts
u've got the truth of it there... tho technically, verant's not in control any more... i do believe the dev's have all had it in for mages tho, cuz from everything i have seen, mages seem to have to work about 20 times harder for everything... spells/abilities, quests, gear, you name it, even just basic stuff... its sickening :(
Shadriel Valshara'Slyan - DE Cleric (EQ)
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Burning Embers
# Dec 19 2007 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
21 posts
Is this item Multi-Questable??
Dropped off Phurz in 20min...
# Nov 10 2007 at 3:05 AM Rating: Good
The previousely stated information about -455 -2550 is correct. I went near that loc (Solo, no tracker) and killed everything i could that roamed by - Hornets, gorillas, giants, sarnak knights, and paying special attention to wurms. A Sarnak Zealot walked by but he managed to slip away. The spot I was at had a building on either side of me in the near distance.

In the midst of fighting a Giant Arbor I saw Pherz off in the distance, approaching me from the building to the north... Popped just between it and myself. Phurz Con'd Light blue to my 57 mage. Dropped at loc -602 -2706 with embers and other misc fodder. 1 and done. Pet had 40% health but just got finished killing a few mobs in a row. I resisted all nukes with only 150 resists, had 80% health after getting hit a few times for roughly 120ish max but more around 80 avg... and had 70% mana as I unloaded shock of steel (scoring one crit of 2300 or so) out of concern for dirtball which had just taken out a few mobs in a row. I was there for roughly 20 min.

By the way... Phurz made no attempt to gate or Summon and tried to walk away at about 10%.

Edit: There was no noticable glow contrary to what some have said.
Hope this helps.

Edited, Nov 10th 2007 6:29am by PinnacleofRallosZek
Dropped off Phurz in 20min...
# Jan 25 2008 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah, that loc (roughly -450 -2550) is the magic spot. I parked my pet on it and killed anything that came near him. It got very hairy at times, and it took many sessions to finally get the dang embers to drop (I ended up w/ over seventy phosphorous).

Sometimes when you start a session you will wonder if you're at the right place. You've killed lots of mobs pathing right across the magic spot - so why aren't PHs spawning? Well, it can take a long time for the right PH to wander his slow butt around the zone and into your death trap. Like thirty minutes, maybe more.

You'll know you're on the right thing when about every 80 secs a mob "falls from the sky" (spawns) and stands there on the spot about 20 seconds - before wandering off. Just keep killin em til Phurz and N-dragon (forgot his name, Nemekenezer? something like that) spawns. They will not gate HERE low on health cuz this is where they gate to if you fight them elsewhere. P is not too hard to kill, but N is tough (was for me). I was 51 and had a druid helping - dotting and healing pet. N summons but will mostly stay mad at pet and not summon you if you play it right.

For me the right spot was just a place in the woods on grass (not black soil) - with no buildings visible to me (maybe the other poster's settings are different). Go by the loc - and be very patient. This was harder for me to get than Quill's cloak (maybe I got lucky on that - cloak dropped fourth or fifth kill). I had three or four long sessions (or was it five or six? I'm fuzzy) in BW killing mondo PH's. Went from lvl 47 to 51 just doing this - AND - got two AAs. You might get lucky, you might not.

Anyway, this system did work. Be patient - get to the point where the PH is dead and new PHs are popping right on that loc - and you will start killing named wurms - and eventually you'll get lucky. GL!

edit, Phurz never summoned me. N only summoned once, when we were fighting him way away from the spawn point. In that fight he summoned several times (we just backed away - pet kept agro) - and he gated low on health - 12%? Fighting on the spawn point was easy. Never summoned - either one - and they never gated (again, the spawn point is where they go if they gate). Keep them mad at your pet and you should be fine. Their attack range is HUGE, so stand well back.

Edited, Jan 25th 2008 5:00pm by IponemaGirl
Spawn point
# Oct 28 2007 at 11:36 PM Rating: Decent
The spot labelled is the correct spawn point, -450, -2550 if anyone doubts it. Mobs spawn very fast, maybe every minute, give or take (as I have 7 corpses laying at the spawn point, about the time one disappears the next mob spawns. "A wurm" is definately the most common spawn at this point, but I have seen all the others listed. Definately not soloable with a low 50s mage. Even if you have the timing perfect and get a new pet up before you are summoned, there is no way you could possibly keep up your mana long enough to win the fight. I don't care what armor you have. Simply not possible, it was designed to be that way.

This is definately soloable at 60+. If you stand on the spawn point you will get very few adds, but some mobs do wander close enough to aggro. When you get to the spawn point DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE A MOB THERE. Everything wanders.

Edit: Also, there is a theory below about when named wurms will spawn. Its bunk. Phurz just spawned at 3:41 EDT. Definately not time dependant, totally random.

Edited, Oct 29th 2007 3:44am by FanamyenKaioshen
PH camp
# Jun 08 2006 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
I had an interesting experience with this one. After scouring the area I finally found the pop point (some mobs seem to pop about the ground and fall, a skele did that and that's how I noticed the spawn). After about 10 ph's, I got two nez and then a ph, a phur and two more nez. Completely random.

Also be sure to watch for bees if you aren't kos to them, as I almost had one get away from me while relying on my pet to kill them after they aggroed.

I was more or less right at -450 -2550 and although I won't say that's where they spawned exactly, they were right in my face and were quick to attack once spawned.
Spawn timer, Place holders.
# Jun 07 2006 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
12 posts
I have been killing the Gylton/Entalon spawn cycle for sometime but have come up empty after 20+ hours total. Since then, I have moved onto Nekenezna and Phurzikon. Here is what I found:

These are definite place holders:

wurm (the least frequent for me)
ember hornet
forest giant verdant
forest giant ancient
moldering gorilla
tattering gorilla
sarnak zealot (these were most common so far)
sarnak avenger
sarnak champion
greater war boned skeleton
greater plague skeleton
scoriae hornet

Once I found the place holder, it is very simple. -450, -2550. I have killed Nek/Phurz about 10 times so far and no embers, only guts for the Bard epic.

Spawn time is 78 seconds per mob... just like the Quillmane cycle!!!
RE: Spawn timer, Place holders.
# Jun 08 2006 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
12 posts
Update: The spawn cycle seems to vary from the 78 seconds, + or - a few seconds every now and then.

A group of us found the place holder and it took us approximately 20-30 Nekenezna and Phurzikon kills before they dropped.
# May 01 2006 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
I camped Gylton and his PH Entalon for about 6 hours total... no drop. So, i went to Nezekezena, killed everything near the loc -450, -2550. once u identify the PH watch carefully bcause they spawn quite quickly, about every 3-5 mins if that.Took about 30 mins to get him to spawn, only the funny thing was he didnt spawn at that loc when he had my embers. he spawned about 300 ft north of the loc through the trees i saw a wurm glowing, i have confirmed that he only glows when he is carrying the embers, so i targeted it. It was him... i engaged... nuked to pull thinking it would b easy... bad idea. he has alot more hp than u think and nukes for about 700-900 dmg about every 12 secs or so. luckily i had Cele health IXs on me at lvl 61. i had 4.5k hp and he almost killed me with the potion going even. then he immediately repopped at the PH loc upon hitting the ground so i repulled and let pet tank this time. much easier. let the pet tnk if u r soloing lol thats what he is there for. anyway when i fifnished killing this pop he dropped the Guts for bard epic. im sure i just got lucky but the second spawn was not glowing. if u ever c a glowing wurm kill it, it may have the embers. anyway i hope this is helpful.


Edited, Mon May 1 19:38:16 2006
Pain in the butt
# Jan 16 2006 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
I had no trouble finding the PH's for the named wurms, it took maybe 20 mins to find. Takes about 20 mins on adverage to get one of the named wurms to spawn. Only once in 6 hours have I had 2 names spawn back to back. After about 10-15 named kills I still dont have Burning embers ... Guts drop almost every kill though
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