Edge of Eternity  

 

Here is what it looks like worn, for those curious: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/ErikVKing/EdgeofEternity-worn.jpg

For those of you who have yet to do weekly Time raids:

The simple reason this blade usually goes to a Bard (in DKP and GOD-loot guilds) is not just because of the Percussion mod, but because Bards are usually last on the list for all other weapons that drop in Time. In most cases, Bards only get to bid on a particular weapon if it would rot otherwise. In fact, "Edge of Eternity" and "Songblade of the Eternal" are the only Time weapons that most guilds will allow bards to bid on.

Why? well, all the other weapons are either class-specific (warrior-only, rogue-only, ranger-only), or have focus effects that are worthless for a bard or work better in the hands of another class. Rogues, for example, get priorty on piercers with backstab mods, warriors get priority on the "aggro" weapons with the huge DD procs, and Rangers get priority over Bards for all other weapons.

I know in my guild at least, Bards are always last to get a melee weapon upgrade. It stinks IMHO, because those two weapons mentioned above have less than a 10% chance of dropping (I have been doing Time twice per week for 3 months solid, and seen only 3 drops TOTAL). True, we are not a big DPS class, but it does get under my skin that other classes are awarded Time weapons for their offhand when I'm stuck using a PoP Tier 3 weapon for my primary (Epic 1.0 offhand)!

And if you think this is a warrior aggro weapon, the proc on this generates barely more aggro than the ranger "Call of Sky" proc buff. In fact, of all the "aggro" weapons that drop in Time, this is proably the one with the least amount of aggro.

Oh, and since I know many of you will tell me to just "go do Epic 1.5", let me clue you in. Bards are low priority in our guild (as they are in 75% of all guilds on my server). Guilds believe that the only purpose of a bard is to provide Manasong and AE Resists, and therefore anything that does not directly impact those two things is not worth the guild's time and effort.

Edited, Wed Oct 27 15:48:51 2004

I remember when this was so ubber... lol no it still is, but with OoW coming it won't be <sigh>

Firstly, Rox - you're 59 - be quiet, you haven't even seen plane of tactics most likely. While you talk about something from time. Big difference. Secondly, like stated before this has a 2.5 mod or 150pct. Before you open your mouth know what you're talking about.

This is a GREAT bard weapon. The best bard in my guild (MT bard*) does 130dps with this item including procs... Now excuse me if I'm wrong but that's better than most knight classes dps. Also makes a nice weapon for a bard because it gets us better agro - so we can actually keep the mob off of the cleric if tank goes down.

So ya this is a great weap for bards, one of few with percussion mod on it. Also, wars have tons of options in time - ie DBotWL - granted its rare - but it's still very nice, and EoE isn't common by any means either. Plus, wars do better dps with 2hs anyhow (assuming weaps are about equal in value).

Coming from a points based guild that is about to kill Quarm (1st try at him we got him to 40pct) and a guild that is doing ikkinz trials when not doing time - this weapon is good for bards and wars should realize this - it stinks when wars let bards sit back with our crappy weaps while they stockpile weaps as toys.

Melodico
65th Bard Quellious
Vis Maior

* MT bard refers to bard that sings specific songs for MTs - not a bard tanking. The MT bard tends to be the best equipped one in the guild.

Edited, Sun Apr 25 01:20:33 2004

Roxttar said: "That being said, a Bards desire for this wpn would almost soley depend on the instrument mod, which if it is indeed 1.5 then this thing SUX"

The modifier is +150%, i.e. 2.5, which makes this a very decent drum ignoring the fact it's a nice weapon.

It seems to me that in a guild run by a benevolent autocrat this weapon would go to bards first, but most guilds are using point systems where loot is awarded based on the oddities of EQ economics. The Dagger of Distraction is an 18 + 3 COLD / 20 weapon -- i.e. 21/20 -- that drops off multiple Tier 3 mobs and has a +12% Backstab modifier. Other melee classes should get this (probably cheaply) and leave the Edge of Eternity to bards.

I might also add that this weapon is desireable to bards more for xping than raid encounters, since a bard who melees is generally a bard who gets killed or needs more healing, and weapons with good instrument mods just encourage us ;)

Edited, Mon Jan 26 02:37:33 2004

lol...I didn't see where any actual Bards posted about this!

I know I can't speak for them all but most bards figure out pretty fast (post lvl 20) that we are not a melee class, meaning we dont do much damage with wpns. We are MUCH more effective using our songs. That being said, a Bards desire for this wpn would almost soley depend on the instrument mod, which if it is indeed 1.5 then this thing SUX. Nice stats, but if you are in PoTime you are prolly just about maxed accross the board anyway.

Before you flame me I know there are Bards out there who melee,(the ones who die alot and get their group killed as well) I myself fought reality for a long time. I would bet my left nut that the "good" bards out there would pass this up cept maybe for a trophy.

Coming from a Bard...Give it to someone who swings a sword for a livivg!



Edited, Sat Jan 17 18:31:23 2004

Any bard using an epic (at least in Elemental Planes and Time) will be constantly ******* at,
because EVERYONE hates that frigging proc. I spend half my time clicking it off.

Got this last night, Saryn was nice enough to drop two for us, first time we had gotten the drop. The blades went to my ranger, and to a warrior.

The proc really isnt a ton of agro compared to what a ranger normally deals with. Most of the spells we use that add a weapon proc are all 0 sec stun. It does add nicely for a warrior id guess, if you were off handing it with a boc, but its not going to get a ranger killed. Not with jolt and cinder jolt to contral agro.

Bards in our guild all have multiple weapons and items for song bonuses. By the time a bard gets to time, they have many many chances at those items.

Basically, who gets this weapon is going to be determined by your system. Its not automatically going to go to any one class, and is quite good for all that can use it.

ya know makes ya wonder......whats next?

I don't know of a single guild which will get this weapon that doesn't use dkp. And dkp doesn't care which class it's "best suited for", the only thing dkp cares for is who wants it the most and who's got the points to spend.
However a bard would likely spend more dkp on this than other classes would like to spend so it's probably going to go to bards first until they all have one.

I agree this is a bard wepon but after all your bards have this it should go to a warrior for secondary.

Sheesh. I love how some of the debates get started on here.

Bottom line : It's a Bard weapon first. With the Percussion effect, that's who it's primarily meant for.
Don't have a Bard with your raid? Or your raid bards all have this already? Fine, NOW you can award this to a different class.
Just like some of the backstab-modifying daggers that are dropping should go to Rogues first, THEN to secondary classes.

Wake up, people. This is NOT rocket science. If you awarded this weapon to a class other than a Bard, your guild Bards would be fully within their rights to train you at their earliest opportunity.

Bard or Warrior only should be awarded this. hands down