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Silver Blade of Thunder  
 

LORE ITEM PLACEABLE
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 27
DMG: 12 Dmg Bonus: 31 AC: 15
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +5 STA: +5 WIS: +5
SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5
Recommended level of 46.
Effect: Thunder Strike (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 46
WT: 5.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: RNG BRD ROG
Race: ALL
Deity: Karana
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:1H Slashing
Stackable:No
Tribute:15239
Proc Rate:110%
Lucy Entry By:Chromite
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 04:11:11
Page Updated:Thu Oct 25th, 2018

Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin


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Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 55

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This item is the result of a quest.
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Quest Name
Silver Blade of Thunder

Crafted: This item is crafted by players.

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Zone Name
Jaggedpine Forest
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OMFG
# Aug 29 2002 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
Holy shît that's a LOT of work for this crappy blade...damned nearly as hard as my SK epic and the stats are no where near as good...but then again..when I am bored as hell and got nothing to do for a few weeks, I might just sit around and do this one to sell em, or maybe twink up a newbie or two...even if the damned thing won't proc
Renmazuo Skoaldiak of TZSmiley: king

Edited, Thu Aug 29 17:44:33 2002
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 28 2002 at 5:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LOL fool. OMFG, oh hoo, look at my im a dumb a**. Your a shadowknight U cant use this u get enough uber weps for your non dual wield ability. This weapon does rock, 12 27 is not bad ration no its not reverse order ration, but if u are hasted, i am, who the F--k would not be now adays, it becomes ohhh lets rechk math for me 12 22 with SCHW is that right all? if so now u got Frostbringer with 263DD not 140 +100ft knockback+stun poison. and STATS AC15 str5 sta5 wis5 SVold5 svmag5 VS Frostbringer 12 22 ac7 proc 140dd, hmmm think id rather have the silver blade anyday :). OMFG rethink your posts before u do it fool, lol. ---dont be jealous you cant wield it, its ok---Muhahahahaha /nuff said out
RE: OMFG
# Nov 03 2002 at 12:21 PM Rating: Default
Moron...frosty is 60dd/-15ac debuff....you know rather than speculate on what the proc does and sound like a fool, you could just easily have looked up the procs effect on this database. IDIOT!!!
RE: OMFG
# Jan 28 2003 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
The only way to deal with a troll is not to respond to them.
RE: OMFG
# Oct 02 2002 at 12:49 AM Rating: Default
Word.
how disappointing
# Aug 25 2002 at 7:01 AM Rating: Excellent
This weapon is god-awful, especially for the effort involved. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand what makes certain melee equipment desirable. It would have to proc a 400pt lure dd to make up for that ratio, and even then, it would just be a toy for soloing when restricted to ranger, bard, and rogue.

I found this post humorous:
quote: "Although the dmg/dly of the weapon isn't spectacular for a lvl 50+ quested sword, the proc is amazing! Since rogues/bards/rangers typicaly have high DEX values, I can see this thing procing 2 times during normal exp fights, and maybe 5+ times for big epic mobs. That's a lot of dmg (and potential agro) from the proc."

Since when does a high level ranger, bard or rogue WANT aggro? Since never. Hell, rangers and rogues both have specific methods of REDUCING their aggro to allow them to do their jobs more effectively. i.e. do damage WITHOUT gaining aggro. A 250 dmg dd + stun is not that amazing, not when only rng/brd/rog can use it. Drop 5 delay off of it, make it warrior usable and it's decent. In its current form, this weapon is a complete joke for the effort involved.

- [link=www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=344004]Branagh Blackthorn[/link] -
:evil the black thorn on the White Rose :evil
RE: how disappointing
# Aug 30 2002 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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98 posts
I keep laughing when I read through this page and see people saying "this sucks this sucks this sucks."

Ok - IF you are a level 58-60 ranger AND you have really great armor with good stats AND you have access to the truly great weapons in the game AND you have your epic, then sure. Go ahead and call this crap, etc. And if that's the case, why not take what you've got, and quit pounding on this one? We don't all have the cash or the ability to raid zones to get the uber gear, so sometimes a quest sword like this is a good answer.

Funny, I remember when I first quested my LSOEE, somebody asked me the stats and I said "16/29" before saying anything else, and they promptly said "that blows" but once I reeled off the rest of the stats they were like "OMG!" The thing doesn't even proc, but I have it in my off hand and regularly whack for over 100 with it.

SBOT is 12/27 +11 dmg bonus. LSOEE is 16/29, magic bane+5. Centi LS 14/27 no bonus. Centi 12/25 no bonus. Hey, my Fluxbladed from Fear is 7/22 with a 150DD that procs like no tomorrow, but because I know how to manage my aggro, I use it.

A 46 ranger could get this sword. When my guild goes to Hate, we have been regularly pulling the mob to get the initial quest sword from within the first 25% of clearing the first floor. (so he is not "deep" in). The guy in SK is a pushover, as is the chick in Rathe and the Imp in the Hole (all 3 mobs can be achieved with single groups; the only one that takes any amount of time is the Hole). The only time-consuming factor about this quest is working up the Jaggedpine faction. Solo, it takes quite a bit. But if you get a group and really work at it, the faction (and exp!) can fly.

I did most of the factioning solo, and it took me a lot of time, but it was very satisfying to finally see that ally message. I don't have my epic yet, but I like this sword. If you worry about the proc - put it away during raids, especially if you don't know how to keep aggro off yourself. If you want to solo, this will help you do it - and soloing you're aggro central anyway unless you're fearkiting animals.

Procs seem pretty random anyway, regardless of weapon. I can have same gear/buffs and do the same raid twice, and be a proc'ing fool against a mob, and then next time, same mob, no proc. I'd never equip this on my rogue (if she followed Karana) as she has a hard enough time keeping aggro down when grouped w/tanks who don't know how to work with rogues. But my ranger... she will be happy to complete this.

Hmmm. How many of you bashing this blade NOW would have given anything to get it before you got too uber? :)


Uberness is in the eyes of the beholder. Quit blocking the view.


RE: how disappointing
# Sep 28 2002 at 5:39 PM Rating: Default
Hell yeah Navarra, WTG. Someone with some goddang intelligence or older then 12 posting, you Rock. And exactly, all I have to say, exactly. This rocks, anyone on drinal wants to see it rock get in a group with me and be like everyone else <all of a sudden stop fighting and jsut watch, hmmm never seen a centi ls do that> :)
RE: how disappointing
# Aug 28 2002 at 1:54 AM Rating: Decent
Everyone keeps talking about how hard this quest is.. after getting the blade from hate it took me all of about 4 hours to do the rest.. well or would if it hadn't been for the buggy SLY character in the hole... Will get him tommorrow..
Foliagwen Razorleaf
59th Outrider of Karana
White Wind
Wow, how sucky
# Aug 24 2002 at 8:12 PM Rating: Default
This is completely terrible for the amount of work you have to do for it. It's nearly epic level, in terms of the amount of time needed to get all the appropriate parts.

You must kill 4 50+ mobs in obscure places to get this. One is the DRot Knight in PoH, level 63 I think, and is on miniboss timer. He's a lot tougher than you think, because he has a strong lifetap.

And the weapon is a piece of junk. The ratio blows, the proc is decent, but for the classes that can use it, is not very useful.

If they would drop 6 off the delay and bump the proc to some sort of 120dd lure type proc, it might be worth going for.

The weapon is OK for show I suppose if you are the sort that likes to do big quests. This one isn't too terribly invovled, but nonetheless, the work/reward ratio is not very good. I would expect 2/3 epic quality for 2/3 epic effort.

Edited, Sat Aug 24 21:03:30 2002
RE: Wow, how stupid
# Sep 01 2002 at 2:17 AM Rating: Decent
"This is completely terrible for the amount of work you have to do for it. It's nearly epic level, in terms of the amount of time needed to get all the appropriate"

Umm... Have you even looked at the ranger epic? This is a piece of cake compared to our epic.

"The weapon is OK for show I suppose if you are the sort that likes to do big quests. This one isn't too terribly invovled"

First you say it's very hard and long, now you say it's easy. Are you saying completing epics are easy? Before you post, go and actualy do the quests.
RE: Wow, how sucky
# Aug 25 2002 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
What i think most people are missing is the situational use of this sword. I am 59 Karana ranger. I usually hunt with a group where either I or warrior friend is the tank... We almost ALWAYS have either a 50+ chanter or shammy with us.. They usually take over the slowing ability. I have BOTH epics, and love Earthcaller, but once a chanter or shammy have slowed the mob the proc from Earthcaller will not hold. Soooo the proc from it is eliminated. I am going to get this sword just for those occasions in hunting/exp parties where I am the main tank and have the agro anyway. THis will allow me to do more damage and the rare occasion i will actually interrupt a spell. NO, this is no substitute for the HotT, or the new bows, but its not worthless either
Foliagewen Razorleaf
59th Outrider of Karana
White Wind
Drinal Sever
BOGGLE
# Aug 21 2002 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
Peeps that post regarding the Earthcaller not haveing a damage componet...are misinformed.

Earthcall
Description:
2: Decrease Attack Speed for between 20% (L1) to 50% (L60) in 25 ticks
3: DoT for 500 Hit Points (HP) in 25 ticks

Details:
Casting Time: Instant
Recast Time: 0 seconds
Skill: Instantaneous
Allowed Targets: All
Duration: 25 ticks (2.5 minutes)
Resist: Magic
Range to target: 200

Nuff said...nice weapon but karana rangers get poked in the pooper again.

Kinidil
Ranger 60
Proc is high damage, but...
# Aug 17 2002 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
After playing my wizard for 52 levels, I know the line of spells this proc comes from very well. Seemed to be the most resisted spell of any of my DD's, even against lower level underpowered mobs. It has a DD and stun combined, so the resist rate almost doubles, and it can't have partial resists either, it's full or nothing.

I'd guess a 60 ranger or rogue, fighting level appropriate mobs, would do nothing with this but draw crazy aggro from the resists. Not only that, but the ratio isn't good at all for the amount of work involved. I'll take an LSoEE any day over this one, or a club of ice ocean, 14/27 with a 149 DD that is resisted much less is a lot better in my opinion, it just lacks the stats of this one.
..............
# Aug 09 2002 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
it is dropable didnt see what lvl it was for the effect to go off but if it procs at lower lvl
then it would be great for a twink
Why is this better then most epics?
# Aug 05 2002 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
Damage: 12
Classes: Ranger Bard Rogue
Delay: 27
Ratio: 2.25 Excellent
AC: +15 Str: +5 Sta: +5 Wis: +5 Magic Resist: +5 Cold Resist: +5
Effect: Thunder Strike

Ranger Epic Primary
Earthcaller
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 14
STR: +15 DEX: +5 STA: +10 HP: +50 SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5 SV POISON: +5
Effect: Earthcall

Bard Epic
Singing Short Sword
Damage: 16
Delay: 26
Ratio: 1.625 Amazing
Str: +15 Sta: +10 Dex: +10 Cha: +15 Magic Resist: +10 Fire Resist: +10 Cold Resist: +10 Poison Resist: +10 Disease Resist: +10 HP: +100
Effect: Dance of the Blade

Rogue Epic:
Ragebringer
Damage: 15
Delay: 25
Str: +20 Sta: +10 Dex: +10 Agi: +10 Magic Resist: +20 Poison Resist: +20 Disease Resist: +10 HP: +80
Effect: Seething Fury

Now where the heck do you get that it is even close to better???

I am happy to see my fellow Rangers get some quests of their own but heck, I would much rather get the Tunare bows then this semi-junk weapon. Of course my fellow Rangers should have been smart to begin with and chosen Tunare =p
RE: Why is this better then most epics?
# Aug 09 2002 at 11:16 AM Rating: Excellent
Damage: 12
Classes: Ranger Bard Rogue
Delay: 27
Ratio: 2.25 Excellent
AC: +15 Str: +5 Sta: +5 Wis: +5 Magic Resist: +5 Cold Resist: +5
Effect: Thunder Strike

Ranger Epic Primary
Earthcaller
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 14
STR: +15 DEX: +5 STA: +10 HP: +50 SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5 SV POISON: +5
Effect: Earthcall

Okay lets break it down here.
1. 12/27 with a 200 DD effect. Or a 14/24 with an effect of slow. Both IMHO are great weapons with Swiftwind in your other hand and both are equally effective.

2. AC 15, Str, Stam, Wis, MR and CR all 5. Hmmm I like that AC on this one. Though earthcaller does admittingly make this eat dust in the bonus stats department for this weapon it is great.

3. Now I have to admit for the hassle you need to go through to get this weapon it is not an EPIC weapon, but I am sure that more rangers of Karana Deity will have this weapon and their EPIC. I plan on having both and it looks like it is a lot easier to get then Earthcaller has been.

As for the Tunare comment: When PoP comes out I will gladly watch you eat your words when you cannot hang in the Plane of Storm

#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 24 2002 at 7:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hi ... would u like some cash to buy a clue??
RE: Why is this better then most epics?
# Aug 13 2002 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
45 posts
Hmm how is this better?
not exactly better than epic but is easier to get, but for comparison sakes.

Ranger epic:
Swiftwind: AC 0
Earthcaller: AC 0
Silver Blade of Thunder: AC 15!

Damage procs?
epics: none vs 200+ DD

ya, this might cause agro but if your a smart ranger and have Jolt or Cinder Jolt up make agro non existant.

just my 2cp

Wixavion Arrowslinger
55th ranger of Karana
Mithaniel Marr

may the god of thunder bless your paths with life giving rain.
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RE: Why is this better then most epics?
# Aug 14 2002 at 2:59 AM Rating: Default
Why is this better than most epics? easy answer
IT ISNT, lets take a look here...

Damage: 12
Classes: Ranger Bard Rogue
Delay: 27
Ratio: 2.25 Excellent
AC: +15 Str: +5 Sta: +5 Wis: +5 Magic Resist: +5 Cold Resist: +5
Effect: Thunder Strike

good stats, but it's a bit slow and has low dmg,
AC+15 , sure ac is always good, but by the time your able to get this weapon, your not getting hit anyway nor do you want to, and wizard spells do draw aggro.

Ranger Epic Primary
Earthcaller
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 14
STR: +15 DEX: +5 STA: +10 HP: +50 SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5 SV POISON: +5
Effect: Earthcall

dmg /dly ratio is really nice, awesome stats AND
sacred resists , whether this is the slow or the haste weapon i dunno im not a ranger but a slow on one hand and haste on the other is pretty nice

Bard Epic
Singing Short Sword
Damage: 16
Delay: 26
Ratio: 1.625 Amazing
Str: +15 Sta: +10 Dex: +10 Cha: +15 Magic Resist: +10 Fire Resist: +10 Cold Resist: +10 Poison Resist: +10 Disease Resist: +10 HP: +100
Effect: Dance of the Blade

awesome stats, awesome dmg /dly ration , awesome resists, AND it procs GROUP HASTE!

Rogue Epic:
Ragebringer
Damage: 15
Delay: 25
Str: +20 Sta: +10 Dex: +10 Agi: +10 Magic Resist: +20 Poison Resist: +20 Disease Resist: +10 HP: +80
Effect: Seething Fury

15 dmg on a rogue weapon as far as i know is godly, i dunno what the proc is im assuming it's a dot.

how could one even consider the silvery blade better than most epics... and since on karana worshipers may use it , the chances of a bard or a rogue using it are slim to none and a ranger would want his/ her epics over this... sooo it's useless

RE: Why is this better then most epics?
# Aug 22 2002 at 2:15 PM Rating: Default
For the record the rogue epic proc is a worn effect: 40% haste, 9AC and 40ATK.

In short, that alone makes the rogue epic better than this weap. (And 15DMG is the highest possible for any rogue piercer. (Unless you include bane damage, but that's a completely different discussion...) )
RE: Why is this better then most epics?
# Mar 02 2003 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
wouldnt rogue want epic even more for backstabing purposes, just my 2 cents, i guess you might call me a newbie

schuepert zwargenmeiister
46 dwarf warrior
RE: Why is this better then most epics?
# Aug 22 2002 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
For the record the rogue epic proc is a worn effect: 40% haste, 9AC and 40ATK.

In short, that alone makes the rogue epic better than this weap. (And 15DMG is the highest possible for any rogue piercer. (Unless you include bane damage, but that's a completely different discussion...) )
RE: Why is this better then most epics?
# Nov 07 2002 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
At the time you wrote this, there had already been 16 damage piercers in circulation for a while.
What the??
# Aug 05 2002 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, there is a slight bit of a problem with this sword.

It's 1hs and is better then most epics.
A level 46 required weapon that outdamages a epic easy?? That's lame.

Plus it can proc a avg 250DD spell????

Geeze. Why just say to hell with other more challenging stuff to get.

To be honest, this weapon is too great for it's location and time to get as well as for level to be.

Sorry to be blunt and harsh. But even if it's Karana, you still have got to believe this is WAY too powerfull.
RE: What the??
# Aug 08 2002 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
Bah this is not better than any epic. Especailly for a Ranger this is not good. A 250 or so dd proc causes too much taunt and 12 27 ratio sucks.
A centi LS is 14 27 with no proc. The AC is nice on this sword, thats about it. Any ranger of sufficient level to get this sword should be able to do better.

Teiden Oakbear
56 Outrider of Karana
Evening Reign, Druzzil Ro
RE: What the??
# Aug 08 2002 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Not only does the proc have 250 dd, it also has a stun effect. Stuns are huge agro. Kinda funny that the 3 melee (LOL OK Bards are not melee, but it still applies) classes that most try to avoid pulling agro get a sword designed to to get it in one proc. (Well maybe not one proc. Exagerating for effect)
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Melee Druid of Karana
RE: What the??
# Aug 07 2002 at 12:09 AM Rating: Decent
ok....
Number 1, why in the world do you think this POS sword is better than any epic? Its ratio sucks, sure that nice dd is has is good, but 12/27 bah

If you want to go through all that for that crap sword you should be a follower of Karana and not Tunare. Besides without Tunare, where would Karana send his rains?

Adiien Leafblade
Outrider of Tunare
Bristlebane
RE: What the??
# Jan 17 2003 at 6:19 PM Rating: Default
Well, I'm sure without Karana's rain Tunare's homeland will be nothing but a desert. :P

There's only one thing I like about this weapon... It is tradeable. I can sell it to those people who thinks this is comparable to epics. I'll probably make a fortune. hehe :)

Honestly!

AC 15? If anyone plans on hunting in PoP zones, AC 15 will do so little to protect you. Now a days, people would rather have extra HP and STA.

Thunder Strike? Big deal! Thunder Strike gets resisted majority of the time unless you are like 55+ nuking light blue mobs. OR, have someone cast Tash on the target. Believe it or not, at level 65, D'vinn resisted the freaking spell! LOL
RE: What the??
# Aug 05 2002 at 6:42 PM Rating: Decent
"To be honest, this weapon is too great for it's location and time to get as well as for level to be."

Sure, it says RECOMMENDED LEVEL OF 46, but it does take a lot of time and effort, not to mention a LOT of friends, to get this sword - I say anyone who has this truly earned it...Just look at what you have to kill in Hate. A 63 SK thats pretty deep into the zone...that alone is pretty rough, and look at all the other 50+ mobs you need to kill. . .

Im not disagreeing with you or anything, I'm just being objective
i have the sword
# Aug 02 2002 at 10:29 AM Rating: Default
Im Glad...
# Aug 01 2002 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
Im glad that Verant finally got some good Karana diety stuff in game, but as a ranger of Tunare I dont think I've seen anything this good for us? If you know of anything let me know cause I sure as heck will go out and get that one.

Verecruz Briteblade
Druzzil Ro
RE: Im Glad...
# Aug 18 2002 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
Most Ranger equipment in the game is geared to Tunare. Even Surefall Glade is a rather backwater zone with little to no vender.

Compair
Kelekin
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A cultural forge
Bank
bakery
Kiln and wheel
full low to mid armor quests.

SFG:
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some low level armor quests
and 4 merchants in the whole of the zone.

most quest are not even religon based.

my 2cp,
Wageit
52 ranger
RE: Im Glad...
# Aug 02 2002 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
HEAR HEAR!!!!! omg VI remebered my god...no bloody way!!!! I'm tired of that HO Tunare getting everything .....jesus you would think that she was the only god! Why isn't there a helm compariable to "Helm of the Tracker"? or Blessed Faydark bow?...hummmm ...so you Tunare loves can rot on this one....bout bloody time is all i have to say!
RE: Im Glad...
# Aug 01 2002 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
27 posts
There's already Tunare ranger stuff. There's at least four crafted bows for Tunare only. There's also Blessed Champion arrows, Damage: 11, Delay:0
Ratio:0, Range: 170, which are Tunare only.

Edited, Thu Aug 1 16:39:43 2002
RE: Im Glad...
# Aug 05 2002 at 9:55 AM Rating: Default
Yes, that is all true but Tunare has no 1hs.

However, this is not RNG only.

But neither are the Cultural Bows.

If I just hadn't gotten Swiftwind to replace my Centi LS, I would be rather upset.
RE: Im Glad...
# Aug 06 2002 at 10:35 PM Rating: Good
How greedy can one be.

Tunare Rangers have had diety specific items for a year or 2 now and you'd be upset because you didn't get something else?
/cheer
# Jul 31 2002 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Oh my, I go away for a couple of months to find that my god has finally blessed us with an item /cheer. As the only level 80ish (60 and 20 AA) without my epic completed on my world (server), I think I may find the time to complete this little quest just to appease my god.

Although this weapon does not have the best stats, and sadly lacks the haste componant of swiftwind, this would have been a nice pre-epic solo weapon to work yourself through to level 55.

One can easily solo the animals in the Eastern Wastes for decent exp through level 50, and then move along to the moon and hunt the rock hoppers -- the world can use a few less of these smelly reptiles anyways.

I presume that I would not use this weapon very much, since I do not solo much anymore at 60. When grouped, I fear with a high dex, I would have too many procs and it would cause undo aggro that would be tough to reduce, even with jolt/cinder jolt/jolting blades ...

Not having the weapon yet, perhaps someone could run the jolting blades and ranger weapon proc spells to see if they stack. Sometimes there are stacking issues.

I thank thee Karana for granting me at least one faith based item, and look forward to more delightful suprises almighty one ... /sucks up to her god ...

60 seasons and change begging her god for goodies ...


RE: /cheer
# Aug 01 2002 at 10:48 AM Rating: Default
Unfortunate as it is, Lady, Jolting Blades and Call of Sky/Call of Fire do NOT stack in any way, no matter which you cast first. Jolting Blades is the dominant self-proc, no matter that Call of Fire is a higher level spell. /sigh

Yet another of the connundrums the Gods have given Rangers when it comes to spells that would work wonderfully together, yet won't.




Edited, Thu Aug 1 11:37:16 2002
!
# Jul 31 2002 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
Even though I'm a Tunarean Ranger, I'm glad that the Karana bums finally make good on a deity specific item ^_^

What I fail to understand is ... why is this quest located near Surefall ( a community of Tunare-worshipping tree-huggers )? Shouldn't this quest originate in say ... Rivervale? Or maybe GFay ( not sure if GFay-ans are exclusive worshippers of Tunare or not ).

Khemosaabe "Tonto SPAM" Longbow (of Cazic Thule server)
Lvl 55 Ranger and Slayer-of-Bunny-Wabbits
"Ogre Ranga Powa!"
RE: !
# Jul 31 2002 at 11:41 PM Rating: Good
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Surefall Glade welcomes followers of both Tunare and Karana, since they kinda go hand-in-hand. Also, the Knights of Thunder are located in Qeynos, and have pretty close ties to the people of the plains. Basically, the rangers and druids protect the plants and animals and ecosystem of the plains, while the paladins and clerics are more geared towards protecting the people that live there; however, they do work together often, as seen when the plains were stricken with the plague.
RE: !
# Jul 31 2002 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
Gfay-ans aren't completely restricted to Tunare, but all the druids and rangers that start there are. Half-elven druids and rangers can pick their deity, with Karana followers going to Surefall and Tunare followers getting their pick. If all combinations were equal than Surefall would have a slightly higher Karana population.

Gfay IS more Tunare-based than Surefall.
heh
# Jul 31 2002 at 12:25 PM Rating: Default
hey this proc does over 200damage? this definitely beats the **** outta a crappy lsoee any day.
RE: heh
# Jul 31 2002 at 11:38 PM Rating: Default
are you kidding? 12/27 comapared to a possible 21/29? may i have what you smoke every morning please?

this thing is a joke. the dmg/delay is wrose then centi LS, and the proc is knockback so if you use this in a group/raid, don't expect to stay long
RE: heh
# Aug 01 2002 at 12:51 PM Rating: Default
Monk?? Did you say monk?? Sometimes I dont understand people.....
RE: heh
# Aug 24 2002 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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53 posts
its his tag line, he puts it at the end of every post he makes...

Besides, this is clearly an item for druids.
This weapon bites
# Jul 31 2002 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
For the levels needed to obtain it, YUCK. As a Karana Ranger, this weapon is not encouraging as far as future Karana only items. I have LSOEE and Guard Capt Mallet, hardly uber. I am level 48. Why would I want a Silver Blade of Thunder now, let alone in 5 or 6 levels? The proc is close to suicide as well.

Edited, Wed Jul 31 09:36:10 2002
RE: This weapon bites
# Aug 28 2002 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
Guard captain mallet and LSoEE are two of the best dropable 1handers in the game. At level 48 that is uber. This weapon still sucks monkey butt though
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 3:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am an Erollsi Marr worshiping bard and I think I speak for the hand full of us out there that we get screwed when it comes to deity equipment. There is almost nothing good diety specific for E Marr worshiping bards. I looked at this and before I saw the diety I said finally a wep with a good dd proc bards can use. I shed a single tear when I saw the Karana diety. Oh well my friend has a halfling ranger and he says he going after it, so at least I can look at it when hes done /shrug
RE: Erollsi why hath tho forsaken me?
# Jul 31 2002 at 9:25 AM Rating: Default
you think you get screwed? what about the rest of us that from day one played an agnostic character. thereisnt any agnostic only gear at all so I dont want to hear you whine.
Originally, it was a role play thing. Now I wish I could go back and change it with all the cool drops that are coming out that are god based. oh well
RE: Erollsi why hath tho forsaken me?
# Jul 31 2002 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
Glad to hear faction is so tough to come by.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 3:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow, suckage. Drop the delay at least 5 points, then it might be worthwhile.
RE: /comfort Karana Rangers
# Jul 31 2002 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
If it were 12/22 with those stats and that proc, I'd wield it after Earthcaller proc'd. Jolting Blades and Jolt/Cinder Jolt would make it semi wieldable too, Salindrite Dagger procs all the damned time, so the agro may be unavoidable without liberal use of mana to deagro.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 2:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WOOT WOOT there ya go ya karana rangers ya got some diety only lewts woot woot now quit crying
wtf helm?
# Jul 31 2002 at 2:27 AM Rating: Default
I was looking through and saw a rant about helms?
erm... saying that such and such helm is better than this weapon?
Isn't that comparing apples and oranges?
Unless you're gonna go up to ssra and start bashing him with your head.
=D
Helms != weapons
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 6:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) against ssra I think you'd need a ssra bane helmet:)
complaing
# Jul 31 2002 at 1:44 AM Rating: Good
Just wanted to say looking at ranger items is like looking at armor that is light in weight. I have a 53 monk and a 15 ranger who yes worships Tunare. Under every light weight armor and weapon post i see why cant monks use this were getting screwed and under every tunare ranger stuff i see karana rangers getting screwed. It is a game you picked your diety that is your problem PoP will have Karana in it so you will finally get alot of Karana only items please i just wish posts were made without people complaining that they are always getting screwed. Just my thoughts thank you for your time. :)

Edited, Wed Jul 31 02:32:17 2002
RE: complaing
# Jul 31 2002 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, 325days played ago I picked Karana...When Deity wasn't even listed in the player info section of your inventory.

If you're gonna make deity matter, better make it fair for all people that play the game.

There is an imbalance, plain and simple.

On March 16, 1999, I picked Karana as my Ranger's Deity. Up until Velious, it didn't matter in the least. Did you know Deity would matter in March of '99? I sure as hell didn't, and anyone that says they did is lieing.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 12:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That item is ***, plain and simple.
RE: No Thanks, I'll fight bare handed.
# Jul 31 2002 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
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As a Tunare Ranger... I agree. Karana Rangers got gimped on some loot types, and while I was hoping it would be made up for in JP, if this is the reward for an equivelant to a HotT style quest... no thanks. Hopefully when PoP comes out they have some more quests for Karana Rangers to make up for it. I know I am looking forward to camping the old geezer... muahahaha
RE: No Thanks, I'll fight bare handed.
# Jul 31 2002 at 2:01 AM Rating: Default
go ahead and fight anyway you like. i for one wish this was SK equipable, 263dd stuns are great when soloing in seb or some other place where mobs are frequently casters. perhaps you should look again and see "either melee", DPS is only good for a primary hand where as this will make an excellent secondary. perhaps you should think again before knocking a wepon with this much dmg behind it. what were you expecting 12/15 with the proc?

gimps.

anyway where do helms come in while comparing wepons???? sure you can knock someone out with a helm but this isnt RL, its eq and a ranger with good dex can proc this quite often im sure.

Edited, Wed Jul 31 02:50:50 2002
RE: No Thanks, I'll fight bare handed.
# Jul 31 2002 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, I noticed it was offhand equippable, but the only place this ranger could equip it would be main hand. And it sucks as a main hand weapon.

Do you have experience with this proc?

Salindrite Daggers proc this spell, it's nasty agro, much like the agro on Call of Fire weapon proc spell Rangers get, 0.0s stun, only it does much more dmg and doesn't have Lure resist check.

Malevant is correct, there are better weapons for the offhand that already exist. Swiftwind comes to mind...for a quest that is similarly difficult as a matter of fact. You tellin me to unequip Swiftwind, 39atk and 40% haste 13/21 weapon with 15str 10sta 5dex 50hp and 5 all saves?

Tell me why, arguably, the best equipped ranger in EQ, Sean of FoH still uses Swiftwind when he can use any weapon in the game for his offhand. It's because it friggin parses out to more DPS than anything, period. We're talkin about Ssra, Ahkeva, Vex Thall, Ring of Vulak(NToV) items he's NOT wielding because they all pale in comparison to Swiftwind in the offhand.


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RE: No Thanks, I'll fight bare handed.
# Aug 05 2002 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I would not call Swiftwind "similarly difficult." Not by a LONG shot.

Swiftwind is one of the two ranger epic swords. Among the various mobs that must be killed in order to get pieces completed (VSR, Jael in the Hole) requiring raid forces, Swiftwind/Earthcaller also require 3 difficult/rare pieces to obtain: Jade Reaver, a stone from the 4th or 5th isle of Plane of Air, and a stone from Hate. I've been hunting a JR for 8+ months (no joke... believe me, if I had the money for what farmers charge for one, I'd buy one in a hurry). I've been to Hate far, far too often as well, I hate the zone (and to think I have to go back for my chanter and rogue epics... /shudder...), but the stone is so rare!

For the Silver Blade of Thunder, aside from getting the blade needed to start the quest (Blade of Rot from Hate), this entire quest can be done with ONE solid 50's group. The factioning you can do for this quest solo in Jaggedpine (although I highly recommend grouping as it goes much faster). The Hole mob requires either one or two groups in their 50s. (the mob itself isn't difficult, it's making it up to that point in the front of the castle, 3rd floor). The SK mob can be done with 3 people (shaman, melee, cleric/druid). Please do not call this quest equal to Swiftwind.

As for comparing it to other swords... the proc may be an aggro generator, but I will take it, especially to improve my soloing. I can't afford or cannot hunt the zones to get better ("uber") gear yet, so I will be very happy to have completed this quest and weild this sword alongside my LSOEE (self-quested, not bought!). I tried a Centi LS for a while and quite frankly, I don't see what the big deal is.



RE: No Thanks, I'll fight bare handed.
# Jul 31 2002 at 2:20 AM Rating: Good
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Ratio = All in offhand. You can get better ratio for easier elsewhere. The stun is great, but how often does it proc? An LSoEE would be better than this offhand, and mainhand it is way too slow to be attractive to me at 55.

The comparisons to helms come from the Helm of the Tracker Quest, which yields a very respectable helm for a Ranger, yet is Tunare only. In the high end there are better, but HotT remains as one of the better helms out there for a Ranger who is not in a large guild... as long as he worships Tunare. You will not see Tunare Rangers envying Karana this weapon; given the choice, I would take the helm.

You want this to appeal to a majority of Rangers? Drop the damage by 4 and the delay by 10 or 11, increase the damage so it at least has a decent offhand profile, or add a respectable chunk of HP to it.

Thanks for the gimps comment, though. As an SK I am sure you are far more knowledgeable about what Rangers want or need than someone who has actually played the class for 50 or 60 levels. Your wondrous knowledge of the equivelant Tunare quests is a great testament to this. Do some research in the future before harping on legitimate concerns of classes actually affected by VI's screwy risk v reward system in these quests, you won't appear as clueless.
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# Jul 30 2002 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
A rogue who worships Karana? Is that even possible?
RE: =/
# Jul 30 2002 at 11:49 PM Rating: Decent
Yup, but no rogue in their right mind would use a weapon with this big of a proc.
Nice Proc
# Jul 30 2002 at 4:20 PM Rating: Default
Although the dmg/dly of the weapon isn't spectacular for a lvl 50+ quested sword, the proc is amazing! Since rogues/bards/rangers typicaly have high DEX values, I can see this thing procing 2 times during normal exp fights, and maybe 5+ times for big epic mobs. That's a lot of dmg (and potential agro) from the proc.

And no one will complain about the AC!

RE: Nice Proc
# Jul 30 2002 at 11:20 PM Rating: Default
yep, being a ranger of karana i am finally glad to see the tunareans get screwed out of a nice item. too bad we still get screwed out of the helm of the tracker :/

to me the proc just about makes up for the dam/dly ratio. this would go great with my LSoEE.

PS:Now im finally not so regretful of worshipping karana. best wishes to all u rangers of tunare and enjoy ur helm of the tracker :)
Karana
# Jul 30 2002 at 3:49 PM Rating: Default
This nice weapon is just the start of the Karana Ranger invasion. I would expect to see a lot more Karana only items in the future.
RE: Karana
# Jul 30 2002 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
Yes it would be nice to see some more items for us rangers that worship Karana.
RE: Karana
# Aug 03 2002 at 3:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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I find it funny that we have been reduced to complaining about a Karanan Ranger being screwed more than a Tunarean Ranger and visa versa. We're Rangers, get used to being screwed. If you have any suggestions on how to make the game better e-mail it to eqmail@soe.sony.com
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