Beware Capital One -- A Consumer's Story

Yeah I know this has nothing to do with EQ or DAoC, and I'm not normally one to use this as a pulpit for things like this, but after a couple of hours on the phone on this, I figured I would give people a heads up about this company's practice. I have (soon will have had) a Capital One Credit Card. You know the one with those cute "what's in your wallet" commercials. It's actually under my wife's name, which has some bearing on this. Well today I get a call from "Rod" from "The Account Solutions Group", a collection agency, stating that our credit card payment is overdue. Amazed, I tell him that this is impossible, since I pay the card off each month and in fact just sent in a payment last week. He of course insists, in very strong and insistant terms, that we owe Capital One money. Basically, he was rude as hell. Well after much hassle back and forth from him, I finally get out of him that he is looking for a "Tony Moyer", male, born in 1979, instead of "Toni Moyer", female, born in 1965. Great. So I figure it's just a stupid, if unpleasant, mistake. Nevertheless, to be safe, I call Capital One to make sure they do not have us listed as delinquent and that our credit rating has not been affected. After the usual wait on hold and a transfer, I finally get to "Kevin" of customer service. He tells me that there should be no problem with our credit report since the account would be under a different social security number. But I insist he look further since someone got our number to call us and harass us, so I figure someone thought that was our account. Then he says the most amazing thing: that if they can't track down the actual debtor, the collection ageny will typically pull every phone number in Capitol One's database with the same name as the person who owes them money and call them all to try to collect their debt. I'm like "are you saying that just because some Tony Moyer in Podunk owes you money, you called us and accused us of being delinquent?" Basically yes. There were 15 variations of Toni Moyer in their database and apparantly they called them all over this single debt. They didn't call us by mistake as much as mistakenly called us. He claimed that was the price we are supposed to pay for getting that low interest rate. So of course I told him to cancel my account. Then, after I had hung up, it occured to me that a company this unscrupulous and unethical could not be trusted to not somehow mess with our credit rating, so I decided I had better get a letter from them confirming that our credit with them was fine just to have on file somewhere. Plus, I had to make sure what he told me was truly correct, because it seemed so incredulous to me. So I called back and eventually got to 'Nancy" in customer service. Yes indeed she confirmed, we will call everyone necessary to collect a debt. "Even if the age, sex, and social security number all don't match?" You bet. That is apparantly a company policy. I believe the exact quote was "Capital One will do whatever is necessary to collect a debt". Apparantly even if it means hassling people who have absolutely no connection to the debtor beyond a similar name. So if you are considering getting a Capital One credit card, keep in mind that if anyone with your name owes them money, you can expect to get a similar phone call from a collection agency accusing you of not paying your debts. In addition, I ask you to consider this. If they will use the information you provide them in this unsavory manner, how else will they use it? I of course only know about this incident, but do you want to take the chance that this is the only way they will twist your data? Is this the type of company you want to deal with? You may want to consider a different company, and if you currently have a Capital One Card, you may want to consider another option before you too get a call like this.
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re: providian visa
# Mar 25 2003 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
was harrassed by online collections when my taxes were being filed and how much was i getting back. I told them nothing,this was for a providian account. I got calls every day 3 times a day. I finally got my refund check and offered to pay them over half. But the worst thing is that they took an old check of mine and sent 3 $60.00 payments out of my account, which caused me to have bad checks. I went to the bank and had to pay them more money to stop these payments. they were made out to:1. providian, 2. providian national bank, 3. providian bank. This took me weeks to get it straight. Then my state check came in and i called providian for a payoff. I sent it that day. I got a letter saying -o- balance I also told them to close this account, this week i recieved a statement from providian saying i owe them $61.25. service charge. what can I do now? thank you
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RE: re: providian visa
# May 13 2003 at 11:34 AM Rating: Default
I wrote earlier and now providian is charging me $200.00 . They claim I made a purchase of 78.38. something stinks.. They will not give me the correct address or someone higher than the reps. to talk to or send them a letter about this. I can't take much more.
MASHAL
# Aug 09 2002 at 4:38 PM Rating: Default

DEAR SIR MADAM
SORRY MY EMILE IS MONKYASS29@HOTMAIL.COM








THANKYOU
MASHAL
# Aug 09 2002 at 4:36 PM Rating: Default
DEAR SIR MADAM

EVERY TIME I APPLAY FOR CREDIT CARD MY APLICATION WILL BE DECLIND. SO PLEASE COUD YOU HELP ME.
yup me too
# Jul 23 2002 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
Yes,

I had a very similar experience with this company. Confuse my account with another unknown party, spam my account with these lovely $69 services that i did not subscribe to and then refuse to credit it back, their system kept a rotating balance of 25 dollars that would not go away and late fees when i would pay by phone the day i get the statment. This company is extrememly uncorropative would not hear my side of the story would not let me talk to a person of substance instead of "bill" the idiot phone guy.

When i recieve their junk mailers, i remove all my contact information, put all the shreaded paper cigerette ashes whatever into the prepaid envelope and mail it back to them. At least the post office will get paid.

Edited, Tue Jul 23 10:04:56 2002
RE: yup me too
# Aug 15 2003 at 11:58 AM Rating: Default
how do we know these posted emails and the consumer letter is real? not generated by another company?
Just Mentioning
# Jun 09 2002 at 11:53 PM Rating: Decent
If anyone has a problem like this and doesnt know what to do about it send me an E-mail at
ccci_aub@bellsouth.net

This is what I do for a living and if I can help you out from this site, maybe just maybe my boss will give me a little less flak about playing everquest every weekend :)
My bad experience
# May 15 2002 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
49 posts
I have had both Capitol One and a Providian Account. Believe me, what has been stated above is actually UNDERSTATING how evil and wretched these companies are.

As the collection agent told me... "Once I pay off MY Providian card, I'm cutting it up and never using it again." And she WORKED for the dang company.

They have fees for everything, and they just decide how much to charge you, and if you don't like it, too bad, they WILL take you to court and ruin you.

Its better to have NO credit card than to have theirs. I have since paid them all off in full, and gotten legitimate cards, but I am about 3000 poorer for less than 1000 dollars of extended credit.

Thank you for posting this because people need to be warned.
End of Discussion
# May 15 2002 at 3:41 AM Rating: Default
I killed Capitol One today in Dreadlands. Dropped my epic. Now I'm uber at level 43. =)

Ghoste Spiritstalker
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7th Hammer
Something to grin evily about
# May 14 2002 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
On occasion, just for kicks, I will open the credit card offer and mail other's credit card offers back to them.

"Capital One! You are pre-approved for a Citibank Mastercard." -Dated material inside-
halgren
# May 13 2002 at 12:38 PM Rating: Default
For those who are interested I have 10 years experience in working fraud credit card claims and I have one piece of advice for all, take control of your credit, everyone is worried about their credit history. What every one should keep in mind is all credit bureau's are private companies that have some federal regulation's governing them. unfortunately it is a major pain in the butt working with these companies trying to straighten out mistakes. ( by the way they count on at least 8 out of 10 people dropping their complaints because it is so hard to fix problems, but stick to your guns and you can win) My first piece of advice is get a copy of your credit report from all three major credit bureau companies and any local ones that effect you. I know your thinking that's expensive, by federal regulation if you feel there is fraud or inaccurate info on your credit file they must supply you with a copy for free for you to review. They will make you run threw hoops to get it, but if your letter advises them that you feel your info has been defrauded and include all information they need to find your file { name, add, ssn } then may send it to you with little fuss. this is where the fun begins, if there is miss information you should start send letters off to all parties concerned advising them to fix the problem, send a separate letter for each problem, that way they get separate case files and get better attention. the request have to be in writing so don't bother calling until they give you a case number to track you by. this will getting you started on your quest, just remember all they report is what they are told, if you dispute it and they cant confirm it they are required to remove it. For those who are really in money trouble before you pay off those large accounts with money borrowed from a friend, get a letter from all companies you pay saying that they will remove there derogatory credit info from your credit files, { they do not care what your file says, they want there money} that way even if they don't you can send a copy of that letter tot he credit bureau's and get it done yourself, good luck
Halgren
# May 13 2002 at 12:37 PM Rating: Default
For those who are interested I have 10 years experience in working fraud credit card claims and I have one piece of advice for all, take control of your credit, everyone is worried about their credit history. What every one should keep in mind is all credit bureau's are private companies that have some federal regulation's governing them. unfortunately it is a major pain in the butt working with these companies trying to straighten out mistakes. ( by the way they count on at least 8 out of 10 people dropping their complaints because it is so hard to fix problems, but stick to your guns and you can win) My first piece of advice is get a copy of your credit report from all three major credit bureau companies and any local ones that effect you. I know your thinking that's expensive, by federal regulation if you feel there is fraud or inaccurate info on your credit file they must supply you with a copy for free for you to review. They will make you run threw hoops to get it, but if your letter advises them that you feel your info has been defrauded and include all information they need to find your file { name, add, ssn } then may send it to you with little fuss. this is where the fun begins, if there is miss information you should start send letters off to all parties concerned advising them to fix the problem, send a separate letter for each problem, that way they get separate case files and get better attention. the request have to be in writing so don't bother calling until they give you a case number to track you by. this will getting you started on your quest, just remember all they report is what they are told, if you dispute it and they cant confirm it they are required to remove it. For those who are really in money trouble before you pay off those large accounts with money borrowed from a friend, get a letter from all companies you pay saying that they will remove there derogatory credit info from your credit files, { they do not care what your file says, they want there money} that way even if they don't you can send a copy of that letter tot he credit bureau's and get it done yourself, good luck
CCs
# May 13 2002 at 12:26 PM Rating: Default
Yep, I work for a major credit card company, (as a project manager, not a customer service rep) but people just don't understand how things work. You're only liable for $50, if anything, for fraud, and you ALWAYS have to pay by your due date, not just when you receive a statement.

And I believe that you need to look a little harder at the collection agency's practices. If the card company can't pass on social security numbers, then they give all the rest of the information they can to the collection agency. If the agency that called, mistakenly called you, it was their faulty research, not the card company's.

As for Capital One, they have some of the better practices in the industry. You'd be scared what some of the companies do, like Providian...
RE: CCs
# Jul 01 2003 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
RE: CCs
# Jul 01 2003 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
Your full of it. I also worked for A Major Credit Card (Crapital One) as most called it there. They do most of there colections and post collections (recovers Dept.) In house. I have walked the floors and heard things that some of these colectors have said to customers and it's crap. But as they say, what the customer does not know makes it easyer for me to collect there money so my bonus is bigger.

And yes, All the collectors and Recovery Reps get cash bonus on the amounts they collect.

As for Capital One haveing better practices then most ? Don't think so. They are there for one thing. The money. Fees, Fees and more Fees. They play the customer into thinking that they can handle more credit then they can realy aford. That is why they took such a big hit in the stocks last year.

Now the whole company is not bad. They have other divitions that do other things besides Credit cards. But as for the Credit (RISK group), They are just blood sucking until they dry the market. When they have destroyed to many lives with the bad practices of credit lending to get the high fees, That is when you will see the company go up for sale or crash very hard.

And I worked there so stop trying to play the big smart educated person your not. What you said in your reply was nothing more then information that is posted on the bullitenboards at all sites all the time.

So what do you think about that. BUSTED !!!!
okay, thanks for the warning
# May 13 2002 at 10:35 AM Rating: Default
well, i've read through a few of these and now i'll make sure to avoid capital one, seems a little strange there way of doing things but, hay, now we've been warned.
Credit Report
# May 13 2002 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
Alla, Don't forget to check online for your credit report after this mess. This way you can make sure the account is cancelled and dispute anything Capital One tried to bomb you with.

Try: www.transunion.com I got an instant report for $9 in response to an attemped fraud. No record of anything (including a simple credit inquiry) regarding the bank in question helped clear me.
CC has a fee for everything
# May 13 2002 at 6:03 AM Rating: Default
Yep, CC sucks... I received one about 2 years ago, started out with a $600 credit limit. I got the balance up to around 500 or so and had been paying 100 per month. So I stopped using it, still paying 100 per month, thinking it would be paid off in 6-7 months (intrest). After 6 months, balance was 800.... They have a fee for everything.. Don't you dare Sneeze with out checking to see if they charge you for it.... Ended up having to cancel the card and pay it off with my tax refund :(
Another Thing about Capital One
# May 12 2002 at 1:07 AM Rating: Decent
21 posts
I work for a bank and I see this one at least two or three times a month. Someone is applying for a loan and they're declined because of bad credit, and they throw a fit, get a copy of their credit report. Several of them come back after a few weeks with the same story:

"I once had a credit card with capital one and I paid it off in full, and asked it to be closed over the phone, but apparently the person didn't actually close it and I was charged $0.06 per day!!!"

If you deal with capital one and wish to stop, get a letter in writing stating when and with whom you closed your card.

Just an FYI, you don't want a "deliquent" charge of $300 or so dollars keep you from buying a house, like this one poor lady :(
Capitol One suxor
# May 11 2002 at 7:19 PM Rating: Default
I had someone get a credit card in my name from Capitol One. I got a call from them because they suspected it was a fraudulent card before I even recieved a bill for the card.

Not exactly sure what cued them to the idea that it wasnt me using my card but if it was enough to call me asking if I owned the card then why did it get issued to someone else in the first place? Made no sense to me what so ever. I didnt have to pay the expenses made at least but I did have to make a lot of phone calls and such to credit reporting places informing them my name had been used fraudently. Only time can show if anything happens to my credit because of it.
I use cap... tol lozer
# May 11 2002 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default
Heres my 4pp on this whole ordeal. I believe there are RIGHTS of privicy and you cant fail a claims suit against capitol one IF they did not tell you about them being able to harass you like that. Now im not 100% sure, but id look into. Another thing i had a misshap with captiol one about 3yrs ago once they knocked my cridet half way decent and there was nothing i could do about it i payed all my depts on it and cancelled it 1 they have the worst cosmter sevice i thought sony was bad lol sheesh these people must not get laid at ALL. 2 watch your credit closely for some reason the figures never add up right well atleast mine didnt they always goofed something up :( .... my 4pp on this ordeal ( wondering when the government wake up, and make laws that soicty really needs ooo then thats when i wake up from my dream o well)

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torvonnilous
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# May 10 2002 at 8:59 AM Rating: Default
FYI...

I work at a major brokerage firm, one of the top on Wall Street. I have to tell you this, as it is VERY important. I strictly use a debit card for all purchases I make, primarily due to the points I get (miles/rewards program). I WORK WHERE MY CARD IS... I found out that it is possible, as it happened to a client of mine, that BANKS can NOT pay your debts if your debit card is stolen. There is the $50 liability for credit cards, but debit cards have unlimited liability, unless otherwise offered by your financial institution. Where I work, it is a zero liability card.

There is one exception to this, that I personally experienced. If you lose your card, whether it be credit or debit and someone manages to get/figure out your ATM pin, you are totally liable. Only BECAUSE I work here and could pull some strings was I able to recoup the $2K that someone pulled out of my account. Many banks have lower limits on daily ATM withdrawls, but financial institutions such as ours are guided under different laws and regulations and can therefore offer higher daily withdrawl limits. They took me for a ride (the thief) to the tune of $2k. Even though most ATMs take pictures and the investigators can get those pictures (if you report early enough) you are still liable for the withdrawl. The contracts we all sign and don't read usually state that your pin is yours and to protect it. They are not required to repay you if you are careless with your pin and that includes my situation where I stupidly used an easy pin to figure out.

Another CC rant...(Credit Card, not Crystal Caverns)

WTF IS UP!? Why do all my CC companies keep sending me "convenience checks"?! That is like..HEY STEAL MY MAIL and ACCESS MY ACCOUNT! Anything for a buck I suppose

Pardon the anon, but when discussing financial matters I think I would rather remain anonymous.
RE: ...
# Sep 11 2002 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
It's actually worse than that...you *do* realize that all your personal info is encoded on that magnetic stripe, don't you? A cheap flash reader, port over to a pc, and...voila! PIN number and everything! If ever you lose your card, don't waste anytime looking for it-report it right away and let the bank close it...otherwise you could be out more than 2k!
RE: ...
# May 14 2002 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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Oh man doesn anyone out there have Fleet? If you read the agreement for the debit visa card (totall access) they practicaly OWN you lol.

I believe there are several statements in there that you agree to pay no matter what even if it is internal error on there part.. its crazy hehe
And since they're a major bank I would assume most others have similar or worse agreements, and we just dont read the fine print or cant find and institution that doesnt impose such outrageous guidlines.
Recording Telephones
# May 09 2002 at 10:01 PM Rating: Default

The law, both Federal and in all but a few states, say that it is illegal to record telephone conversations UNLESS at least one person involved in the conversation is aware that the conversation is being recorded. If you are recording your own telephone conversation, and you know it is being recorded, it is fine to use as evidence in court even if the person you are talking to has no idea. Some people get confused because it's illegal to record an ACTUAL CONVERSATION without all parties knowing that it is recorded. In other words hiding a tape recorder under your couch and recording a live conversation without everyone aware would not be legal and would not be admitted as evidence in court. The next hurdle then is to convince the judge and the other lawyer that the tape isn't either editted or somehow taken out of context, but that's something completely different.

You can trust me on this because I had to admit taped telephone conversations in a trial. My own lawyer wasn't sure if it would be admissable, especially since the conversation was accross state lines, and eventually I had to do the research myself. When I showed her the statutes she misinterpreted it, probably like alot of people. Look for the word "Unless" whenever a statute says you can't do something. The tapes were admitted into the trial once everyone was convinced they were complete and that at least one party (me) knew the tape was being recorded, and it was the only thing that tilted things my way in a case where it was my word against anothers. The important thing to the court (particularly in civil proceedings) is getting to the facts, if you have something that relevant it will get in.

The other thing to remember is that this statute is entirely separate from the laws that govern law enforcement, and they shouldn't be confused with each other.
RE: Recording Telephones
# May 12 2002 at 8:39 AM Rating: Default
Wow, I think you are right <NOT> Ask Nixon about recording conversations... If you are recording a conversation on the phone YES all parties have to be aware of it. Your comments are obsurd. If it is 2 people or 10 people they have to be aware of their being recorded
RE: Recording Telephones
# May 23 2002 at 6:46 PM Rating: Default
I work for a major telecommunications company that has thousands of representatives taking calls daily. It is correct, in most places, as long as one of the parties is aware, it is legal to record telephone conversations. We used to go round and round with customers on this, and finally got a clarification from our legal department.
RE: Recording Telephones
# May 16 2002 at 1:06 AM Rating: Default
it actually varies by state...some states permit taping people who are unaware they are being recorded. so watch your language, kids!

nimbledigits
returned after a long hiatus...

(f.y.i. nixon's troubles came not from the legality of the taping itself, but with the content of the conversation on those tapes and the fact that he would not release them when asked.)
credit Cards
# May 09 2002 at 5:25 PM Rating: Default
Just a little note for of you, some things to remember. 1) it is illegial for you to record a phone conversation WITHOUT notifying the other person. And if they say they do not give you permission, then that tape can not be used for anything other than a paperweight.

Another thing.. to the person who stated that CC can have $1000 fraud liability.. actually it's federally regulated that the max a person can pay is $50.
RE: credit Cards
# Aug 21 2002 at 9:54 AM Rating: Default
Sorry but you're at least partially wrong in the part about notifying someone. Not in this state. I just got out of a court case with a stalker who had been calling me. After getting scared, I got mad and started taping his calls and taking them to the cops. He was convicted and sentenced three week ago, in large part because of those tapes. And nowhere in those conversations did I ever notify him of anything...well, other than of my intent to do him serious bodily harm if he ever showed up at my door. ;-)
RE: credit Cards
# May 09 2002 at 7:10 PM Rating: Excellent
16 posts
The rules of evidence in the US (what I assume you're talking about) are a bit slippery when it comes to recordings made without the other person's knowledge. True, they cannot be used directly as evidence, BUT they can be used to discredit a witness. Also, I believe that if they mention the possibility that the call may be recorded (most big companies have that kind of message for all incoming calls), then you have received their implicit permission to record the call.
Captial One
# May 09 2002 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
I remember when I had Capital One. I dropped their asses like a bad habit when, out of the kindness of their own hearts, they would raise my credit limit without asking me.... and then charge me a processing fee for raising my limit. The straw that broke my back was that they raised my limit a whole $100 and charged me $175 for the "favor".
CC/Banks
# May 09 2002 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
I seem to have ok luck with credit cards (when I have one though, I do tend to charge a bit more than I should....hence a huge 20k debt right now <sigh>). But banks and checking accounts. I have the worst luck. My first account at 18 got closed suddenly by Wells Fargo. Why? Someone with my exact name, one town over (and I have a very unusual last name!) bounced checks, and they thought she had a double account somehow. So I bounced checks. Got that straightened up. Then went to the credit union that my mom worked at. Got an account. All was going great until, you guessed it, the same name girl opened one also. Thankfully, my mom checked frequently enough that there wasn't any trouble. Well, on a few years, I get tired of my mom knowing all my financial data, and open an account in California at Bank of America. No biggie...joint account with my ex-husband (husband at the time). We split and divorce, I notice the account is still open, get the forms, we both sign to close, account closed, end of story. I move to Texas. Go to open an account with some settlement money, and guess what? Can't. BoA has me listed as a deliquent deadbeat. Make a few phone calls, determine my ex bounced a single check, which he then cleared up (he swears it was an accident...I believe him, as he had another BoA account). Only way to clear it up was to go down to the branch that I opened the account at and speak the the manager. Umm..I'm in Texas....you are in California...can't this be done on the phone? I was told no, I had to go into the branch. Well, Ok...call BoA headquarters in San Francisco and explain to them...same thing. I finally asked if they were aware that to get to California I would either have to fly in a plane at a cost of several hundred dollars, or drive through 3 states, again at a cost of several hundred dollars. I got hung up on. So, I figured hell with it. Finally found a bank, opened an account, and all was going well. Took a 10k cashier's check, drawn on a major financial institution, and deposited it. Was told funds would be available the next day. Wrote out checks for bills (including rent) and guess what? Same as another person. Cashier's check (which cleared the other bank that night) was being held for 10 days "because we can do stuff like that". That was 4 1/2 years ago. I'm still dealing with that one. At this point, we (my husband and I) had given up on bank accounts. Well, he got a job and it was required that he have one, so we got one with his jobs credit union. And guess what? That one got messed up thanks to U-Haul putting through a 600 dollar charge on our debit/visa card that wasn't authorized.

I quit....I give up on checking accounts.....I'm obviously not meant to have one :)

I hate them too >:-)
# May 09 2002 at 11:05 AM Rating: Default
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I have Capital One and they really Suck balls ... Opps not supposed ta say that but hey they do.

:-) I would say you should get other credit services than Capital One
Bad banking practices
# May 09 2002 at 9:42 AM Rating: Default
I can tell you that I just went through some ****** stuff with banking!

I got a large check from some stock I sold. I deposited the check in my bank account. The check was for 7K and was a Cashiers CHECK from Solomon Smith-Barney.

Upon deposit, I scheduled some online payments to my credit cards for 2 days from the date I deposited the check (total amount about 1.5K, WELL under the 7K I deposited) and I sent my Grandmother a check for $100.00 to help with some medicine and stuff.

About a week later I get a call from my Granny and she tells me that her bank charged her cause the check I gave her bounced and therefore all her checks bounced...

So, I immediatly get online and check my bank info and low & behold.. my account balance was NEGATIVE 2K... This included fees for overdraft protection, NSF charges etc. I was FURIOUS.. I keep looking and don't see the check deposit for 7K anywhere so I went down to the bank.

At the bank, the manager informed me that anytime a large check is deposited the funds are held BY THE BANK for 10 business days. An argument insued that their absurdity to hold a check from a MAJOR institution such as SS-B was rediculous. I called SS-B and verified that the check had cleared their account the next business day after I deposited it (as it should)... I had SS-B fax me a copy of the transaction and I took this over to the bank.

After a bit of arguing and threats of FDIC inquiries we got it straitened out. They reimbursed me all of the fee's they charged, a letter of apology to my grandmother AND they paid for her fee's that her bank charged.

Since this happened, I have verified from a few friends who do work for the FDIC and FTC that this is a common practice... Just know that if you deposit a large sum, it could be held for a period..

Later,
Looseleaf Binders
Lost Souls of Glaznor
56 Druid Innurruk server
RE: Bad banking practices
# Sep 11 2002 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
Ah, the float! It's a wonderful thing :)
blah
# May 09 2002 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
Move to Canada. ..

Up here they cant do what they did to you. Well sometimes they might try but if you know your rights you can get them in a lot of trouble. The easiest way is to pretend you are that other person so that they divulge more of the other person's private info to you, then you report them, they get big fines, the person who called you gets fired.

Also, if the collection is ligit but they are harassing you, you can tell them to not call, to do everything by mail, if they call after that you again can get their *** hung out to dry.

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