New class confirmed on test

Tonight on test server, the UI files were updated. Included in the EQUI_CharacterCreate.xml file is a new class option at the character creation screen:
<Button item="CC0_Class2_Button"> <ScreenID>CC0_Class2_Button</ScreenID> <RelativePosition>true</RelativePosition> <Location> <X>102</X> <Y>92</Y> </Location> <Size> <CX>96</CX> <CY>24</CY> </Size> <Style_VScroll>false</Style_VScroll> <Style_HScroll>false</Style_HScroll> <Style_Transparent>false</Style_Transparent> <Style_Checkbox>true</Style_Checkbox> <RadioGroup>CC0_Class_Radios</RadioGroup> <Text>Berserker</Text> <TextColor> <R>255</R> <G>255</G> <B>255</B> </TextColor> <ButtonDrawTemplate> <Normal>A_BtnNormal</Normal> <Pressed>A_BtnPressed</Pressed> <Flyby>A_BtnFlyby</Flyby> <Disabled>A_BtnDisabled</Disabled> <PressedFlyby>A_BtnPressedFlyby</PressedFlyby> </ButtonDrawTemplate> </Button> New class name is apparantly Berserker. Further examination of the eqstr file reveals the following:
5791 Berserker 5792 Berserker GM 5793 Brawler 5794 Vehement 5795 Rager 5796 Fury
Titles perhaps? Edit, the character create on Test does strange things when you select Ogre, Troll, Vah Shir, Barbarian and Human - leading us to believe that those are the valid races for the new class

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Berserkers
# May 14 2004 at 10:34 PM Rating: Decent
Warriors are great in bed...
We have a winner.
berzerkers real and eq
# Jan 06 2004 at 1:41 AM Rating: Default
i didnt see this posted but the primary stats for the class is str sta and dex. you can see them for your self if you continually click on human until no class lights up. theyre primary weapon styles are 2hs and throwing. there will be new throwing items for them that are "larger" from what i have seen at gates of discord site. as for real berzerker info, they wore light armor and most of the time took it off at the begining of battle while "going into a rage". it was used as an intimidation factor since they used either one large weapon or 2 smaller weapons, took off theyre armor and charged any amount of soldiers without showing and sign of fear. the show on the history channel that came on after mail call last season did one of there shows on it and that is where i got the info about real berzerkers.
Congrats Gutts
# Dec 16 2003 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
Quote from Gutts "A warrior is not the best and is not a true melee"

If this is true, then what is true melee? Probably that nice Paladin, right? Oh wait, they cast spells, I guess that takes away the ability to be true melee. Well then what about the Shadowknight. Wait, wait, they cast too, doh. Hmmmm, what would we classify as true melee? Maybe someone whos only real ability is to "MELEE". This is an amazing concept, but warriors are the true melee.

They don't get wuss out options like monks (Feign Death). if a warrior has aggro, he holds aggro til he dies, the mob dies, or he zones.

I agree with whoever said you would be the village idiot for this reason and your spelling of "Mid evil", hehe. Good job Gutts, thanks for keeping us up to date on the cool spellings of the world.
a few thoughts
# Dec 16 2003 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
first things first medieval not mid evil - and when slaton said " [/b]2 - Beserker's fighting ability NEVER surpased orgianised military tactics (please see the early to mid Roman era's campaings in germany for examples of 'beserkers' getting the heads handed back to them on the end of pikes as they charged shield wall formations)".[b]the first thing that came to my mind was atilla kicking roman a$$ .. thats all i had to say peace
RE: a few thoughts
# Dec 16 2003 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
I think you should all be conservative christians!

Edited, Tue Dec 16 16:29:30 2003
im wiht him
# Dec 15 2003 at 10:31 PM Rating: Default
gutss if we were in " mid evil " times, as you say it, then you would indefinitly be the village idiot
castrate the ignorant
# Dec 15 2003 at 10:29 PM Rating: Default
"and if you know anything about mid evil time they used a sword and shield so you cant say they are only true melee. " you sir are an idiot and if you never spoke again the world would be a better place to live in.

P.S. its medieval u moron
just a thought
# Dec 15 2003 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
just a thought: mebe this will be like a all primal style class not a tank such as a all leather wearer with mad eapon skills kinda like a monk for the BIG races just with new abilitites like useing a 2hs in primary and a smaller 1hander in offhand? or soemthing like a flurry attack where the toons attacks can have a chance to strike any adjacent mob to their front. ya know? i doubt itll be another plate class as everyone allready can see we got plenty :P we need some chalenges and if its what im thinking of it should make for an awsome DPS class. i play a 62 rogue and my AC sux as well as my HP but i put out almost double the dmg of respective monks with half their aggro. its been tough to play it this way but alot more fun :) now toss an ogre in leather and give him special abilities such as enrage or flurry attacks but make them a bit higher aggro and pow! ya got a mad damage killer whos actually gota pay attention wo what he does and aggro has to be maintained on the MT as allways :P no unblancing of the game there and adds another good pure melee! just MHO
Gutss your and idiot
# Dec 15 2003 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
Hi would someon please remove Gutss's moronic post? it's beyond stoopid and i realy think that this sight is worse because he is posting here.

Just to refute a few other arguments over history, 1 - the vikings were not great warriors, when they attacked (Vary Rarely) it was almost exsculsively undfended coastal settlements, often by surprise (atleast they used good tactics), and left before any real military force showed to oppose them. Sorry but they were NOT great warriors of the sea as popular culture would have you belive.

2 - Beserker's fighting ability NEVER surpased orgianised military tactics (please see the early to mid Roman era's campaings in germany for examples of 'beserkers' getting the heads handed back to them on the end of pikes as they charged shield wall formations).

3 - Sony i belive will, if they impliment a new class, propably NOT make it a tank class, as they are some of the fewest 'new' charictors made. I play a 65 warrior, yes i have XX AA, and NO i do not have problems controling Agro, and NO i do not have an Enraging Blow weapon. Would i like more agro build, hell ya, but i will make due chewing my groups *** for 2 mintues when we first form up about giving me a 10 second head start. I also have a 65 pally and a mid 50's SK, and yea, they are all fun to play, and i can hold agro just fine without spells on any of them (although Pally and SK is good to make up for stoopid party members mistakes).

More than a new class however, i think we the EQ comunity needs to learn again some of the Kunark skills we forgot. Agro management being a key issue. I am often plagued on my warrior with stoopid level 65 noob casters who cannot keep a mob of themselves, and like to run from a mob thats on them....Didn't we learn this all back in Kunark era?

Thanks much for reading my post.

Slaton : 65 pally
Hiredtanker : 65 warrior
Ricko : SK somewhere in the 45 to 55 area.. depending on the time of day, cycle of trains, and how well my FD wants to cast.

Why not?
# Dec 15 2003 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
Ok maybe this is a stupid idea (won't be my first) if SOE is going to all that trouble to make a better melee class, why not just make all the changes, rename if you like, but just make it to existing warriors. Giving them whatever lvl specific changes, stats, disc., etc., but why put all their time and energy aside? There are many people, me included, that think this is going to nullify warriors, thus dismissing all the effort we have put forth to be what we are. New races? That's cool, but a new class formulated to exclude an existing one?...that sounds stupid to me. but hey, like i said, not my first stupid idea...

Baron Mekiku Thunderfoot of the 58th hand
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 15 2003 at 3:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you are going to complain and moan I have one thing to say STFU
Do YOU like EQ?
# Dec 14 2003 at 9:28 PM Rating: Default
Does anyone even like EQ anymore??? I mean you all keep complaining about it.. I mean come on... sounds like you guys have so many problems with EQ you should just quit. I like EQ and I am sure there are a lot of people that still do. But if you don't like it anymore don't post on here. We looked at this to hear about the new class not about how much you guys hate EQ because of the problems you have had. If you want to complain about EQ to someone go talk to your shrink... and i am pretty sure that none of us here are shrinks so if you would, leave your comlaining to your family and friends or something because there are many people that are tired of your comlaining please post it somewhere else, thank you and have a pleasent evening... oh and... FROGLOKS RULE!!!! BOW DOWN TO THE FROGLOKS!!!!!
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 14 2003 at 11:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am reading this and people are getting mad at the new class berserker well for all you who dont know what a berserker is and are getting mad learn what they are.
RE: Berserker
# Dec 17 2003 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
Dude you are an idiot. Yes you have a good understanding of what a berserker was but you need to look into your history. In medieval (yes that's how it is really spelled) times people used any and all weapons they would get their hands on. It is a common misconception that all a warrior ever used was a sword and shield. Unfortunately that is not correct as most combatants would use anything they could get their hands on to fight with. As for 2 weapon fighting we can go back to before medieval times and look to the gladiators (which are the basis for most successful military units in the medieval times) and see that even they used more than one weapon, and most didn't use a shield. Know what you are talking about before you start flaming others for being stupid. All you managed to do was come off as some half cocked kid who doesn't have 3/4 of the information, and is flaming people for not having all the info. And just so you know, before you talk about how great knights were.....it was common for a knight to get whipped by a farmer with a staff, or who used a rope and a stick. So much for your theory of sword and shield being greater than everything else.

Cebkorle
65 Shaman
Maelin Starpyre
Berserker
# Dec 14 2003 at 11:31 AM Rating: Default
A berserker is better then a warrior if you dont know what a berserker is you should learn a berserker is a warrior that when you make them mad there HP and AC increses. They will be able to have plate armor cuz you cant stop them from having it. Yes they are 100 times better then warriors if you play a warrior and you know when you have 20 pct life left the warrior gose into a berserker rage and they hit faster well a berserker is like that but they are almost always in the rage so there dmg will be more and hp will be more. I am hoping they make this class better then warriors and let them have plate armor it will be a better class and funner to play.
Berserker
# Dec 14 2003 at 11:30 AM Rating: Default
A berserker is better then a warrior if you dont know what a berserker is you should learn a berserker is a warrior that when you make them made there HP and AC increses. They will be able to have plate armor cuz you cant stop them from having it. Yes they are 100 times better then warriors if you play a warrior and you know when you have 20 pct life left the warrior gose into a berserker rage and they hit faster well a berserker is like that but they are almost always in the rage so there dmg will be more and hp will be more. I am hoping they make this class better then warriors and let them have plate armor it will be a better class and funner to play.
STUPID!
# Dec 13 2003 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
lol that has got to be the dumbest thing ive ever heard in my life.... DOUBLE WIELDING BOWS!? i think im now more stupid for listening to that!
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 12 2003 at 4:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I ARGEE STOP ALL OF YOUR WHINING NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR IT!!!!!!!!! GO CRY TO YOUR GRANDMA!!!!
stop it
# Dec 12 2003 at 4:00 PM Rating: Default
I think that all of you complaining about the new class aer stupid... a new class wil be nice. Like everyone says just lower HP increase Strength or any other combo. I am just getting tired of al of you who keep complaining about EQ. If you don't liek it don't talk about it.....plain and simple.The rest of us are able to get along with our lives with whinning about new classes... whoever wants to whine can go cry to their mother cause the rest of us are getting bored of hearing it. All you asses out there who keep complaining about EQ and sony you can just Shaddup we are tired of it
High STR Low AGI and DEX?
# Dec 12 2003 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
Or how bout boosting STR 25 higher obove all the War's but taking 10 points off of their AGI and STA...
How bout this?
# Dec 12 2003 at 3:50 PM Rating: Default
wow that is pretty kool..a monk and War..lots o damage....but it would make it better to lower their HP. I think it would be pretty kool if they had like and AOE swing attack...or they could get reall angry and scare the mobs away like fear...but still have lower HP,AGI, and DEX
does it act like warrior?
# Dec 12 2003 at 11:50 AM Rating: Default
whats it supposed to do?
# Dec 12 2003 at 11:48 AM Rating: Default
ok i dont think i will like new class and i think it will be ok to group with one whats a beserker supposed to do in a group?
Odd choice
# Dec 12 2003 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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I don't think any reasonable player would dispute the legitimacy of the gripe that warriors have about their main function having been broken since aggro became such a struggle.
On the other hand, I personally can certainly appreciate the appeal of new material being introduced to the game "even though they haven't fixed what's broken" yet.. Fixing existing problematic issues and developing new ideas & material are not necessarily jobs that are performed by the same people. It's an expanding and continually changing game we play, so new material is going to be part of that as long as EQ is around (hopefully).
Certainly there will be problems and hopefully they will do all they can to fix those - Warrior taunt should be a priority among those untill that most basic class has been returned to ballance..
Given that..
I don't see the introduction of a new class as inheirently foolish - but it is odd (and I believe shows poor judgement) to have that new class be something that might further insult Warriors while their aggro issue stands as possibly the most glaring imballance presently facing a class.
I said before that the two jobs of fixing existing problems and introducing new material are probably not worked on by the same teams.. but they should still make every effort to communicate with eachother and make decisions accordingly! Unless Berserkers turn out to be something quite unlike the name suggests, it is (imo) a very odd choice as a new class to introduce, considering current predicaments.
Why not something that hybrids existing classes in a new combination and doesn't on the surface of things appear yet another slap to a class already struggling?
I thought the Beastlord was a creative new concept that combined two classes that had not previously been hybridized (monk & shamman) with a unique twist being thier warders. Pally, SK, and Ranger hybrids are part Warrior & part (fill in caster type here) - with bards being unique unto themselves.
Well, there are still several combinations available that have not been explored. Hybridizations with the melee basis of rogue & some caster types could potentially be very interesting, wouldn't you think?
Anyway, this is too long a ramble to basically say that I like new material coming into the game regularly even though problems still need working out with the old material.. but they should keep closer tabs on each of these areas and make sure they consider each others projects in what they decide to do.
berserker mad
# Dec 12 2003 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
when i said the 2 bow thing on iksar i havent been on in like 4 months so i forget if the bows just shoot or what not ... last i remember the bow just shoots u dont use your hand so i said double bow ... but i think it will be something that is special in throwing like a shadowknight ... they are best at it so far i THINK but like they would be abke t throw farther and do more damage ... say a 5 damage item would do 5 at luck with most and 10 with berserker and instead of 5 inches away berserker could go 10 or 20 .. just a thot
People People plz
# Dec 11 2003 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
For anyone knows at all they could have had this class in mind since the begining and never put it in because of bugs and possibly if this is true then they might have just fixed it all u warrior stop moaning and groaning and quit if it bothers u ppl just discovered how good they are at agro so SHUT UP
Berserkers Bad idea
# Dec 10 2003 at 6:39 PM Rating: Default
Looks like a monk with weapons to me. Now THAT is just horrible. Warriors do need to be upgraded, too. Or Shadowknight/Paladin need to get less aggro.
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