White Fire
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With the ability to research spells, Strike of Solusek is now far more accessible than White Fire... the only difference in the recipes to make these is that White Fire requires an additional drop (Strike of solusek only requiring the standard inks, parchment etc.)
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BAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHH ben looking at these post for a while now and i have to get this spell. now my guild raids Kotaz all the time now when we are not raiding time. I hear that this is a drop like a scroll from what i have gained in the info from my guild. SoS is still the best spell as for mana loveing. Although i kits alot in Fire so i need ice based damage.
65 Wizard OF THE NAMELESS
Wizards are the gateholders of the forgotten realm
65 Wizard OF THE NAMELESS
Wizards are the gateholders of the forgotten realm
With a damage to mana ratio of 5.7:1 For Strike of Solusek wearing maelin's gloves of lore non-crit nuke vs white fire's 4.28 this is a spell that I'll probably get, just not one that I will put effort into obtaining. In my opinion, its just a bone thrown to the non-elemental wizards out there that want to see a big boom crit while wearing lesser focus items.
Now, should the gloves utility expand beyond that of SoS only (getting a near-equal ratio), it would be more attractive, but still a far cry from the mana efficiency that wizards at this stage really deserve.
Edited, Sun Mar 14 16:31:09 2004
Now, should the gloves utility expand beyond that of SoS only (getting a near-equal ratio), it would be more attractive, but still a far cry from the mana efficiency that wizards at this stage really deserve.
Edited, Sun Mar 14 16:31:09 2004
You know, assuming that the person killing here doesn't have a Preservation of Solusek... of course they couldn't.
Even if they didn't, MP4 isn't that hard to come by. Don't blow it out of preportion. If you're going to count your MP for SoS, then count MP for this too. Don't forget to include Specialization and Spell Casting Mastery, by the way. Unless you don't know what they do =P
SoS has a base Dam / Mana ratio of 4.28 as well, by the way... So yeah, it's still a better ration, but the DPS on White fire is much better for the miniscule amount of mana increase... I actually think SoE did a good job of balancing this with SoS. Slightly better DPS. Slightly worse efficiency.
Even if they didn't, MP4 isn't that hard to come by. Don't blow it out of preportion. If you're going to count your MP for SoS, then count MP for this too. Don't forget to include Specialization and Spell Casting Mastery, by the way. Unless you don't know what they do =P
SoS has a base Dam / Mana ratio of 4.28 as well, by the way... So yeah, it's still a better ration, but the DPS on White fire is much better for the miniscule amount of mana increase... I actually think SoE did a good job of balancing this with SoS. Slightly better DPS. Slightly worse efficiency.
Erm:
Conservation of Xegony = 20% Mana Reduction of all spells
Preservation of Solusek = 20% Mana Reduction of detrimental spells
Inferno of Sol = 25% Mana Reduction of SoS
Also bear in mind that CoX and PoS are ALOT harder effects to get hold of than IoS.
White Fire = 704m - 140m (20%) = 564m for 3015 base damage
Strike of Solusek = 640 - 160 (25%)= 480m for 2740 base damage
Thats without considering Spell Casting Mastery or a possible crit with a Wrath of Ro (your likely to have if you have the CoX or PoS)
With a nice crit your looking at around
White Fire = 8000 for 395 mana
SoS = 6800 for 336 mana
So theoretically for an extra 59 mana your hitting for an extra 1200 at best.
Of course I could be completely wrong :p
Conservation of Xegony = 20% Mana Reduction of all spells
Preservation of Solusek = 20% Mana Reduction of detrimental spells
Inferno of Sol = 25% Mana Reduction of SoS
Also bear in mind that CoX and PoS are ALOT harder effects to get hold of than IoS.
White Fire = 704m - 140m (20%) = 564m for 3015 base damage
Strike of Solusek = 640 - 160 (25%)= 480m for 2740 base damage
Thats without considering Spell Casting Mastery or a possible crit with a Wrath of Ro (your likely to have if you have the CoX or PoS)
With a nice crit your looking at around
White Fire = 8000 for 395 mana
SoS = 6800 for 336 mana
So theoretically for an extra 59 mana your hitting for an extra 1200 at best.
Of course I could be completely wrong :p
6 posts
Can get the spell from turning in "Taelosian Geomancy Stone" - got mine from Kod'Taz
20 posts
what NPC to you turn the stone into?
where is this spell
6 posts
yeah, and 3x704 = 3k @@
it's just another nuke to finish a mob a bit earlier than sos, that's all.
it's just another nuke to finish a mob a bit earlier than sos, that's all.
With focus gear, AA crit abilities and bard song this can crit for over 8k. And fairly frequently.
With my present gear this would average approx 3600 DD for about 600 mana and crit for about 7k(rough guestimate). I'll take it!
Also, considering that these are not the lame Glyphed Rune lottery but a plain ol' mob drop makes it that much nicer.
With my present gear this would average approx 3600 DD for about 600 mana and crit for about 7k(rough guestimate). I'll take it!
Also, considering that these are not the lame Glyphed Rune lottery but a plain ol' mob drop makes it that much nicer.
7 posts
40 % fire focus + 25 % from bard song.
Max crit youll have at this point in
the game is 7990.
Max crit youll have at this point in
the game is 7990.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 10 2004 at 1:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually the ratio is 4.25:1 it has the same ratio as SOS
White Fire = 4.2826704545454545454545454545455
SOS = 4.28125
Not the same ratio. I'm unsure where you got 4.25 from...? White Fire has had this ratio for awhile now too.
SOS = 4.28125
Not the same ratio. I'm unsure where you got 4.25 from...? White Fire has had this ratio for awhile now too.
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I have GOT to get me one of these. Where do I buy it??? What mob drops ?? What adventure camp carries it??? MORE INFO PLEEEEEEZZEE!!!
Well, the King is dead. It had to happen sooner or later. I guess I will be the first, if anyone has it where did it drop, off of what, what runes does it take to make it, how many adventure points. Graffe dosent have anything of yet, so no spoilers....
3014 DPS for 704 mana. 3:1 raito, makes FT items all the more useful, bigger boom, more aggro, more concuccion spells between nukes. Wonder if Sony is changing the damage cap. Looks like they might be, wonder what it will be, 8-10K? Your guess is as good as mine. I can see this spell now being augmented by ID IV and the AA damage line.
Kinda makes you wonder, if we get to hit this hard now, whats comming back at us? Are mobs finally going to figure out how to beat the "ambush" of one person pulling the mob back into a kill sack?
Is this going to unbalance the game, not likely. What the designers put in, they usually tweak something else later, to throw us for a loop.
And as a disclamer for anyone who now thinks that this is the tell all end all spell, wait a year or two. It will change, again. First there was Ice Comet then there was SoS, so before we all start flamimg Sony for changing out our comfortable, patterns of nuking the hell of of mobs, I have one last piece of advice: Stay Flexible, Stay Sharp, and Stay Safe.
Korosha Arkenrae
Arcanist
Phoenix Legion
Tholuxe Paells
Edited, Tue Feb 10 14:41:05 2004
3014 DPS for 704 mana. 3:1 raito, makes FT items all the more useful, bigger boom, more aggro, more concuccion spells between nukes. Wonder if Sony is changing the damage cap. Looks like they might be, wonder what it will be, 8-10K? Your guess is as good as mine. I can see this spell now being augmented by ID IV and the AA damage line.
Kinda makes you wonder, if we get to hit this hard now, whats comming back at us? Are mobs finally going to figure out how to beat the "ambush" of one person pulling the mob back into a kill sack?
Is this going to unbalance the game, not likely. What the designers put in, they usually tweak something else later, to throw us for a loop.
And as a disclamer for anyone who now thinks that this is the tell all end all spell, wait a year or two. It will change, again. First there was Ice Comet then there was SoS, so before we all start flamimg Sony for changing out our comfortable, patterns of nuking the hell of of mobs, I have one last piece of advice: Stay Flexible, Stay Sharp, and Stay Safe.
Korosha Arkenrae
Arcanist
Phoenix Legion
Tholuxe Paells
Edited, Tue Feb 10 14:41:05 2004
Well, the King is dead. It had to happen sooner or later. I guess I will be the first, if anyone has it where did it drop, off of what, what runes does it take to make it, how many adventure points. Graffe dosent have anything of yet, so no spoilers....
3014 DPS for 704 mana. 3:1 raito, makes FT items all the more useful, bigger boom, more aggro, more concuccion spells between nukes. Wonder if Sony is changing the damage cap. Looks like they might be, wonder what it will be, 8-10K? Your guess is as good as mine. I can see this spell now being augmented by ID IV and the AA damage line.
Kinda makes you wonder, if we get to hit this hard now, whats comming back at us? Are mobs finally going to figure out how to beat the "ambush" of one person pulling the mob back into a kill sack?
Is this going to unbalance the game, not likely. What the designers put in, they usually tweak something else later, to throw us for a loop.
And as a disclamer for anyone who now thinks that this is the tell all end all spell, wait a year or two. It will change, again. First there was Ice Comet then there was SoS, so before we all start flamimg Sony for changing out our comfortable, patterns of nuking the hell of of mobs, I have one last piece of advice: Stay Flexible, Stay Sharp, and Stay Safe.
Korosha Arkenrae
Arcanist
Phoenix Legion
Tholuxe Paells
Ya the Dps were a bit off. Everyone is a critic.
3014 DPS for 704 mana. 3:1 raito, makes FT items all the more useful, bigger boom, more aggro, more concuccion spells between nukes. Wonder if Sony is changing the damage cap. Looks like they might be, wonder what it will be, 8-10K? Your guess is as good as mine. I can see this spell now being augmented by ID IV and the AA damage line.
Kinda makes you wonder, if we get to hit this hard now, whats comming back at us? Are mobs finally going to figure out how to beat the "ambush" of one person pulling the mob back into a kill sack?
Is this going to unbalance the game, not likely. What the designers put in, they usually tweak something else later, to throw us for a loop.
And as a disclamer for anyone who now thinks that this is the tell all end all spell, wait a year or two. It will change, again. First there was Ice Comet then there was SoS, so before we all start flamimg Sony for changing out our comfortable, patterns of nuking the hell of of mobs, I have one last piece of advice: Stay Flexible, Stay Sharp, and Stay Safe.
Korosha Arkenrae
Arcanist
Phoenix Legion
Tholuxe Paells
Ya the Dps were a bit off. Everyone is a critic.
"3014 DPS for 704 mana. 3:1 raito"
uhh...? Check your math again...
uhh...? Check your math again...
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 19 2004 at 6:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This spell is still in the 4/1 ratio which is cool and all Butttttt man o man why cant you lower the Delay granted we wizards i do beleive have spell haste as an AA when maxed lowers it by 10 percent which isnt much which drops it to 7 WOWWWWWW but comeon at this caliber yes with higher end mobs more wizard you have the faster the mob drops this spell is great.. Now if you compare SOS and this little beauty its the same ratio... Granted with ID4 and every single casting fury AA's you get would prolly push this spell mid 7k ish range maybe low 8k's range because i have seen SOS do low 6k now if spell doesnt crit in that range it wouldn't even be werth the pocket change or time to get this spell since they bith have the same efficency.. Forgot to add that this is in Test and wont be out tell expansion it will either be LDON or rune drop
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