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If all of us baker's sold it for more than 5pp then people would buy it for 5pp. Eveyone is just trying to under cut everyone else these days. I am trying to get all bakers to not sell these for less than 20pp. Maybe baker's can start makeing a profit once again.
Misty Thicket Picnic
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NOT that im complaining but there sure is loads to it! Seems like itd be more then 5pp which is what it usually is.
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I typed in the tradeskill search what my skill was (250) and it says success rate is 95% which is complete BS because I fail 50% of the time cause it's real trivial is 335.
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The trival used to be alot lower. The percent information you were given is just outdated is all.
With the new tradeskill window, it says these are trivial at 335
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I was using notebooks and a million different notes on diffrent pages for a ll the sub combines and ingredients flipping back and forth. Well DUH goes my brain I just clicked the expand all in the sud combines highlighted and printed IT's PERFECT once again premium membership pays its dues in time saved for me. I buy all the stuff with my lvl 40 with cha at 150 with opal steins and plop it all in the sharred bank for my baker/warrior lol great combo huh. And save tons of plat on the ingredients plus I can kill the dropped stuff with her. thanks alacazam
"once again premium membership pays its dues in time saved for me."
"To see what that looks like and how much more useful it is, we have hardwired misty thicket picnic to always show the premium version. "
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/Premium_Service_Index.html
"To see what that looks like and how much more useful it is, we have hardwired misty thicket picnic to always show the premium version. "
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/Premium_Service_Index.html
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I have finally reached 250 in my baking skills, but the combine rate still isn't that good. What can be done to imporove it? I also have the GM Spoon as well, yet the rate isn't good.
Edited, Mon Oct 6 20:18:33 2003
Edited, Mon Oct 6 20:18:33 2003
The highest ANY skill can go is 252.
While the mods will stack on Geerlok and GM, they will never bring the skill past the hardcap of 252.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
While the mods will stack on Geerlok and GM, they will never bring the skill past the hardcap of 252.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
That is true. What you didn't include is the WHY:
EQ looks at skills as an 8-bit value... If you know anything about binary, you know the # of possibilities is equal to 2^n where n is the # of bits. Thus, 2^8 (which is 2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2) equals 258. EQ needs a few "special" circumstances, three of them to be exact (I believe them to be: 1- Can NEVER Learn Skill 2- Skill cannot be learned at this time/lvl and 3- Can Train in skill, but requires at least one point from a GuildMaster in order to recieve skill-ups from use).
So you have 256 possibilities... take away three and you leave 253. So why can't your skill go to 253? Because good 'Ol zero is one, so you have 0-252 (253 values) plus the special values (3 of them) yields the Holy binarily-devisible number of 256 =)
Have a nice day, and I hope someone learned something =)
EQ looks at skills as an 8-bit value... If you know anything about binary, you know the # of possibilities is equal to 2^n where n is the # of bits. Thus, 2^8 (which is 2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2) equals 258. EQ needs a few "special" circumstances, three of them to be exact (I believe them to be: 1- Can NEVER Learn Skill 2- Skill cannot be learned at this time/lvl and 3- Can Train in skill, but requires at least one point from a GuildMaster in order to recieve skill-ups from use).
So you have 256 possibilities... take away three and you leave 253. So why can't your skill go to 253? Because good 'Ol zero is one, so you have 0-252 (253 values) plus the special values (3 of them) yields the Holy binarily-devisible number of 256 =)
Have a nice day, and I hope someone learned something =)
I myself like to buff up bfr i start any trades like dex,kei and cha buffs. I think it really helps i've noticed a major difference from when i dont have any buffs on. wisdom and inteligence really helps with success's 
Edited, Mon Mar 15 19:35:14 2004
Edited, Mon Mar 15 19:35:14 2004
You say you've already reached 250 so I'm not sure how helpful this will be to you since you've already most likely already got one. I would think though that the only way you might be able to improve your success rate at all is by using a geerlok, which should still increase your baking skills. The geerloks (there's one for each tradeskill) improve the skill by 5% when equipped.
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Can the geerlok and the GM Spoon work together. I was told that I can only use one at a time. I'll have to see what slot the geerlok will fit in as I have my GM Spoon in the range slot (I think that's the slot) at present. I'll try it tonight as I have 7 more stacks to combine.... I hate being broke
I've read posts from tradeskillers who swear they get fewer failures with buffed dex/agi.
It may do nothing at all, but it certainly would be worth trying if you're going to be doing large numbers of such an elaborate recipe.
It may do nothing at all, but it certainly would be worth trying if you're going to be doing large numbers of such an elaborate recipe.
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only because i sold her 400 bottles
no...ur prolly not on my server and it was the 3rd item the items u sell go on the bottom
u all prolly knew but u can buy jumjum spiced beer from the leafsway girl by the druid guild you dont have to make it...
it's a pity these things are selling for 5pp and less in the bazaar now. it's really now worth the time or the effort :( too bad people aren't at least getting compensated for the amount of money they put into it!
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Maybe i'm missing something. I combine the ingredients in an oven and hit combine, and get a message that I cant combine these items in this container type. all items are seperate, and are the correct items. Or so I thought.
Common mistakes:
Attempting to use Jumjum Cake instead of Slice of Jumjum Cake. Forgetting to use 2 Slices of Jumjum Cake. Forgetting that the 2 slices must be unstacked.
Edited, Fri Aug 15 20:13:56 2003
Edited, Fri Aug 15 20:13:56 2003
Illi, i know this is going to sound like a real pain. But i am liking the revamp for the skills and heartaches to find recipes. However, are you guys going to do the same for spells research post lvl 50 some them are a bit of a pain in the neck to find. But with quick reference tools that are posted on the site under the spells do not yeild most of the words or items needed to do the combines. but i do like the new recipes makes it better.
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Cudos again on making the site a better place, And the ability to hide combines, sub combines is great, But I personaly for quick reference think the sub catogorys should start out closed and be clicked to opened not vise versa. I want to point out that I am not crizing (sp) in any way but suggesting, this new system is awsome and I apreciate the time allakhazam and everyone else has put into it.
I concur. Your suggestion is a good one. If they start out closed, with maybe a small text message at the top saying, "Click []show for more info", then recipes that almost everyone knows about or don't need (ie water flask - most people will buy instead of doing the 4 pod combine...though I have done that one many times ;)).
I also Agree, as a premium member ( its worth it ) i think it would be MUCH MUCH better if they started closed, it would save a bunch of time ( cuz i close em to see basic ingredients anyway ) and it would be more convinent =)[Orange][/Orange]
Consider it done guys. first thing Friday I'll make it happen.
--Illia
Fumus, draco magus incoluit mare.
Myrx - 70 Holy Priest, Myr - 70 Resto Shaman, Gryd - 70 Prot Warrior
Fumus, draco magus incoluit mare.
Myrx - 70 Holy Priest, Myr - 70 Resto Shaman, Gryd - 70 Prot Warrior
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now if you could just fix the looping ore conversions in recipes (expand out Marmalade Sandwich -> Loaf of Bread -> Bread Tin -> Metal Bits -> Small Piece of Ore -> Small Brick of Ore -> Small Piece of Ore) all would be perfect :) perhaps stopping recipe expansion on hitting any sort of ore and including a link to ore conversion recipes?
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Thanks! Wonderful idea and bvery well executed. That is the way to keep a customer happy! :P
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Incredible upgrade to this site. I have to say this: I have played plenty of on-line games, and this is hands down the best support site I have ever used.
Great job and this latest improvement is HUGE!!!
Xting
27 Wizzard, Xegony server
Great job and this latest improvement is HUGE!!!
Xting
27 Wizzard, Xegony server
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rennet can be bought in pok at one of the venders near the brew barrel or if you have a map of pok then building 29 has a vender selling rennet
51 reaver
51 wanderer
51 heratic
and a lvl 3 enchanter :)
51 reaver
51 wanderer
51 heratic
and a lvl 3 enchanter :)
Well, after doing all the of PotC quest several times over, which the picnic basket is a part of, I have compiled a complete how-to-guide on a excel spreadsheet. This lists the trivials, skills needed, vendors, yields etc. Here is a link to it if you are interested in looking at it.
http://www.bayscenes.com/taushar/potc_list.xls
http://www.bayscenes.com/taushar/potc_list.xls
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what is PotC?
protection of the cabbage, also results in the earring of the solstice, an excellent earring for most any class.
--Illia
Fumus, draco magus incoluit mare.
Myrx - 70 Holy Priest, Myr - 70 Resto Shaman, Gryd - 70 Prot Warrior
Fumus, draco magus incoluit mare.
Myrx - 70 Holy Priest, Myr - 70 Resto Shaman, Gryd - 70 Prot Warrior
Hello,
I am a GM baker with skill of 250. I also have my GM baking spoon that give +5% baking mod. I have made 1,000's of these.
Enough of my credentials. Here are some yields for the sub items. This is important since you need the correct amount of everything or you'll end up with a lot of extra ingredients of one type and missing a few others.
Apricot Marmalade - Yield 6
Marmalade Sandwich - Yield 12
Jumjum Spiced Beer - Yield 10
Winter Chocolate - Yield 1
Jumjum Cake - Yield 20
Slice of Jumjum Cake - Yield 10. Note you need double the amount of slices as other ingredients.
Jumjum Salad - Yield 10
Royal Mints - Yield 10
Mature Cheese - Yield 10
Woven Mandrake - Yield 1
Steel Boning - Yield 1
Picnic Basket - Yield 10
So what do you do since some of these combines yield different amounts? Well a common factor in all ingredients is 6. This means make 60 of each ingredient to come out with using up all your ingredients equally (well close to it).
In otherwords:
Make 1 Apricot Marmalade combine to get 6 Apricot Marmalades. Make 5 combines of Marmalade sandwiches to give you 60 sandwiches. You will have 1 Apricot marmalade left over actually.
Make 1 Jumjum cake combine to get 20 cakes. Combine 12 cakes--one by one--to get 120 slices of jumjum cake. (Remember you need double here, that's why you need 120 not 60). Also note you get 8 extra cakes left over but I found this combine is very tough and I often fail a few times. Its nice to have a few extra in case.
Make 6 combines of Jumjum Salad to get 60.
Make 6 combines of Royal Mints to get 60.
Make 6 combines of Mature Cheese to get 60.
Make 6 combines of Picnic Basket to get 60. The sub combines on these are a pain but each yield 1 so they are also a factor of 6.
Now you have enough ingredients to fill 3 backpacks. Click away, 8 items in the oven and pray you succeed.
I have found that at my skill level I fail about 51% of the time. Because the yields of the subcombines are so high (10 usually) the price of the picnics are actually pretty low. The cost involved is more about the time involved to make all the clicks and gathing stuff. The brownie parts are not that bad since each one makes 20 cakes and each cake is 10 slices meaning 200 slices. You need 2 slices per attempt so that's 100 combines off one brownie part.
~Happy Baking~
Edited, Mon Sep 9 14:42:52 2002
I am a GM baker with skill of 250. I also have my GM baking spoon that give +5% baking mod. I have made 1,000's of these.
Enough of my credentials. Here are some yields for the sub items. This is important since you need the correct amount of everything or you'll end up with a lot of extra ingredients of one type and missing a few others.
Apricot Marmalade - Yield 6
Marmalade Sandwich - Yield 12
Jumjum Spiced Beer - Yield 10
Winter Chocolate - Yield 1
Jumjum Cake - Yield 20
Slice of Jumjum Cake - Yield 10. Note you need double the amount of slices as other ingredients.
Jumjum Salad - Yield 10
Royal Mints - Yield 10
Mature Cheese - Yield 10
Woven Mandrake - Yield 1
Steel Boning - Yield 1
Picnic Basket - Yield 10
So what do you do since some of these combines yield different amounts? Well a common factor in all ingredients is 6. This means make 60 of each ingredient to come out with using up all your ingredients equally (well close to it).
In otherwords:
Make 1 Apricot Marmalade combine to get 6 Apricot Marmalades. Make 5 combines of Marmalade sandwiches to give you 60 sandwiches. You will have 1 Apricot marmalade left over actually.
Make 1 Jumjum cake combine to get 20 cakes. Combine 12 cakes--one by one--to get 120 slices of jumjum cake. (Remember you need double here, that's why you need 120 not 60). Also note you get 8 extra cakes left over but I found this combine is very tough and I often fail a few times. Its nice to have a few extra in case.
Make 6 combines of Jumjum Salad to get 60.
Make 6 combines of Royal Mints to get 60.
Make 6 combines of Mature Cheese to get 60.
Make 6 combines of Picnic Basket to get 60. The sub combines on these are a pain but each yield 1 so they are also a factor of 6.
Now you have enough ingredients to fill 3 backpacks. Click away, 8 items in the oven and pray you succeed.
I have found that at my skill level I fail about 51% of the time. Because the yields of the subcombines are so high (10 usually) the price of the picnics are actually pretty low. The cost involved is more about the time involved to make all the clicks and gathing stuff. The brownie parts are not that bad since each one makes 20 cakes and each cake is 10 slices meaning 200 slices. You need 2 slices per attempt so that's 100 combines off one brownie part.
~Happy Baking~
Edited, Mon Sep 9 14:42:52 2002
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C'mon crankypants. He said he maid 1000's of PICNICS, not 1000's of SPOONS.
Sheesh... what a grouch.
Edited, Thu Jul 17 01:55:22 2003
Sheesh... what a grouch.
Edited, Thu Jul 17 01:55:22 2003
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Edited, Wed Dec 25 03:47:29 2002
Scholar
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Very nice and very helpful! I put together a shopping list, based on your recommendations for getting enough for 60 combines. Here it is along with a step-by-step following:
Shopping List for 60 Misty Thicket Picnics
6 Barley
6 Bottle
1 Brownie Parts
1 Clump of Dough
6 Eucalyptus Leaf
6 Fennel
12 Flask of Water
1 FORAGED Fruit
6 FORAGED Vegetable
8 Frosting
6 Hops
13 Jum Jum Stalk
6 Lettuce
5 Loaf of Bread
12 Mandrake Roots
6 Rennet
6 Small Brick of Ore
6 Spices
In addition, you will need the following:
1 Cake Round
1 Dairy Spoon
1 File
This seems to be the most straight forward order to proceede, listed as the number of Combines:
Forge
6. Steel Boning
Loom/Kit
6. Woven Mandrake
6. Picnic Basket
Brew Barrel
6. Jum Jum Spiced Beer
Oven/Spit
1. Apricot Marmalade
Mixing Bowl
1. Winter Chocolate
6. Jum Jum Salads
6. Royal Mints
6. Mature Cheese
5. Marmalade Sandwich
Oven/Spit
1. Jum Jum Cake
12. Pieces of Jum Jum Cake
60. Misty Thicket Picnics
Hope someone finds this helpful!
Rinalthelis Wolfbrother <Ancient Adventurers>
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=329060
Wood Elven Druid of Tunare from the Realm of Karana
Edited, Wed Sep 11 15:51:03 2002
Shopping List for 60 Misty Thicket Picnics
6 Barley
6 Bottle
1 Brownie Parts
1 Clump of Dough
6 Eucalyptus Leaf
6 Fennel
12 Flask of Water
1 FORAGED Fruit
6 FORAGED Vegetable
8 Frosting
6 Hops
13 Jum Jum Stalk
6 Lettuce
5 Loaf of Bread
12 Mandrake Roots
6 Rennet
6 Small Brick of Ore
6 Spices
In addition, you will need the following:
1 Cake Round
1 Dairy Spoon
1 File
This seems to be the most straight forward order to proceede, listed as the number of Combines:
Forge
6. Steel Boning
Loom/Kit
6. Woven Mandrake
6. Picnic Basket
Brew Barrel
6. Jum Jum Spiced Beer
Oven/Spit
1. Apricot Marmalade
Mixing Bowl
1. Winter Chocolate
6. Jum Jum Salads
6. Royal Mints
6. Mature Cheese
5. Marmalade Sandwich
Oven/Spit
1. Jum Jum Cake
12. Pieces of Jum Jum Cake
60. Misty Thicket Picnics
Hope someone finds this helpful!
Rinalthelis Wolfbrother <Ancient Adventurers>
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=329060
Wood Elven Druid of Tunare from the Realm of Karana
Edited, Wed Sep 11 15:51:03 2002
Corection for Shopping List for 60 Misty Thicket Picnics.
same as above with these changes.
12. bottle of milk
12. jum jum stalks (not 13)
9. frostings (not 8)
but the list is real good just fine tuneing it 8)
Hawk
same as above with these changes.
12. bottle of milk
12. jum jum stalks (not 13)
9. frostings (not 8)
but the list is real good just fine tuneing it 8)
Hawk
Excellent,Allakhazam,execellent :)
The premium service is worth every penny.
The premium service is worth every penny.
It's pretty rare now, so where can you buy "Rennet" exactly? I've once heard it was Shadow Haven only. Where can I get it now?
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Things to know:
Picnic Baskets are player made. Takes smithing and tailoring skill.
Dairy Spoons are smithed.
The baking combine for Jumjum Cakes also requires a Cake Round, which is made via pottery I believe.
Lettuce is purchasable in ShadowHaven. Same merchant as Jumjum.
Bread is also purchasable, why you'd go through the hassle of making it yourself I have no clue.
Edited, Sun Sep 8 14:21:28 2002
Picnic Baskets are player made. Takes smithing and tailoring skill.
Dairy Spoons are smithed.
The baking combine for Jumjum Cakes also requires a Cake Round, which is made via pottery I believe.
Lettuce is purchasable in ShadowHaven. Same merchant as Jumjum.
Bread is also purchasable, why you'd go through the hassle of making it yourself I have no clue.
Edited, Sun Sep 8 14:21:28 2002
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Lettuce and Jum Jum can also be purchased in Rivervale. What is the recipe for the Picnic Basket, as I've been unable to find anything on them?
Nm, I found it. Just click on the Picnic Basket in the above recipe and follow the thread.
Edited, Sun Sep 8 15:07:18 2002
Nm, I found it. Just click on the Picnic Basket in the above recipe and follow the thread.
Edited, Sun Sep 8 15:07:18 2002
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Rennet still sold in ShadowHaven. Merchant's name is Granger Kenforth. Located in one of the shops off the side of the little spires.
On a side note, I'm not impressed at all with the new addition. EQ Traders does an absolutely amazing job with tradeskills, why duplicate it all here? And as a highlight, you link specifically to the recipe for Misty Thicket Picnics... only it has errors.
Edited, Sun Sep 8 17:58:52 2002
On a side note, I'm not impressed at all with the new addition. EQ Traders does an absolutely amazing job with tradeskills, why duplicate it all here? And as a highlight, you link specifically to the recipe for Misty Thicket Picnics... only it has errors.
Edited, Sun Sep 8 17:58:52 2002
#REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 07 2002 at 7:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is without doubt enchater item ))
One of these days, I'm going to write a filter that catches "soandsoClass Item" posts and kills them before they can be seen.....
--Illia
Fumus, draco magus incoluit mare.
Myrx - 70 Holy Priest, Myr - 70 Resto Shaman, Gryd - 70 Prot Warrior
Fumus, draco magus incoluit mare.
Myrx - 70 Holy Priest, Myr - 70 Resto Shaman, Gryd - 70 Prot Warrior
Heh heh heh
I dunno, Ilia... you write the filter, and the monk-item posters will just find a way around it
m0nk item... m@nk item...m*nk item........
Bluudnitsa, knowing that as soon as you devise an idiot proof system along comes a new and improved idiot
Never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity
I dunno, Ilia... you write the filter, and the monk-item posters will just find a way around it
m0nk item... m@nk item...m*nk item........
Bluudnitsa, knowing that as soon as you devise an idiot proof system along comes a new and improved idiot
Never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity
LOL... PLEASE do, Illia. That's been my only gripe in the last three years of using this site- "This item should be a Monk Item".... "This should go to Monks first b/c it's low weight".... BAH! I'm a Monk myself (anyone don't believe me, come to Rodcet and lemme kick you in the head, *grin*), and that stuff just gets on my nerves. Who cares what class/race something "ought" to go to anyhow? There's far more gear in the game than 98% of the players will ever see anyway. I'll take the best I can acquire when it comes to me, and the rest I'll just drool over when I see it here :)
Amen! Need any help with this? ;)
/cheer
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This has to be one of the best bargains around. I really do like this web site and will remain a member of your premium service. The time it saves more than pays for the service.
Great Job!
Great Job!
I became a premium member mostly to support Allakhazam.com mostly cuz you ask so little for it and I wanted to help out (i have extra money and don't like to feel like a mooch).
I have to say, it's well worth the price for premium. It's the best eq reference site for free and even better with the bells-and-whistles of premium. The recipes addition is nice, thanks!
I have to say, it's well worth the price for premium. It's the best eq reference site for free and even better with the bells-and-whistles of premium. The recipes addition is nice, thanks!
I just posted a link to this on the [link=www.eqtraders.com]EQ Traders[/link] message board. I think I hear the rumble of hordes of tradeskillers running full speed across the Internet, credit cards in hand. Very, very well done.
That is great!! Man do I really love my premium membership now.
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Thanks! This is great!...everything on one page clear and concise!
Love it, thanks for the service ;)
Love it, thanks for the service ;)
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This is great, beutiful. Please renew my membership. Hehhehhehheh. Thanks, I needed this.
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