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Down and Dirty Smithing ~ by Cormath Loremaster
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Of the trade skills, Smithing and Jewelcraft are worked in much smaller stages due to cost. When working Baking the cost of a Fish and Batwing are easily ignored, but by Banded Gorgets you will want to start selling what you make to comfort the finial cost of learning the skill. I sell to merchants since the time lost auctioning is time I could finish learning a trade and get back to hunting for better coin.
The items are scattered about on merchants and a few ooc/shouts in town can get you in the right direction. Once you have the items to combine and lots of water, combine them on a forge.
** All items also require one water flask **
Metal Bits (Trivial at 21)
2 Small Pieces of Ore
File (Trivial at 22)
Metal bit, File Mold
Studs (Trivial at 41)
3 Metal Bits, File
Toolbox (Trivial at 51)
Metal bit
Sheet Metal (Trivial at 68)
2 Small Bricks of Ore
Steel Boning (Trivial at 88)
Small Brick of Ore, File
Banded Gorget (Trivial at 102)
Metal Sheet, S/M/L Gorget Mold
Sewing kit, Small (Trivial at 135)
Metal Bit, Needle, Thimble
Banded Gauntlets (Trivial at 168)
2 Metal Sheets, S/M/L Gauntlet Mold
Banded Cloak (Trivial at 175)
2 Metal Sheets, S/M/L Cloak Sectional Mold
MQ, Folded sheet metal (Trivial at ???)
1 Block of MQ Ore (this will be trivial but needed to make next)
Fine Plate Collar (Trivial at 185)
1 MQ Folded SM, S/M/L Plate Collar Mold, Smithy hammer (not consumed)
Blacksmithing
Blacksmiths have the ability to forge their own armor and weapons both for personal use and for sale to others.
What are the best strategies for developing and using the blacksmithing skill? What items are the most and least useful ones to forge? Which classes are best suited to take up this trade? Can you make a profit off of blacksmithing, and if so how? Which cities are the best places to practice your trade?
Post your strategies on how to best use and develop the blacksmithing skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
Anonymous
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Appears that I used an old sorce and the trivials have changed. Please corrct as such:
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File (Trivial at 21)
Metal bit, File Mold
Studs (Trivial at 41)
3 Metal Bits, File
Toolbox (Trivial at 51)
Metal bit
Sheet Metal (Trivial at 56)
2 Small Bricks of Ore
Rings (Trivial at 82)
Large Block of Ore, File
Banded Gorget (Trivial at 102)
Metal Sheet, S/M/L Gorget Mold
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Hate not being able to edit my posts =(
Appears that I used an old sorce and the trivials have changed. Please corrct as such:
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File (Trivial at 21)
Metal bit, File Mold
Studs (Trivial at 41)
3 Metal Bits, File
Toolbox (Trivial at 51)
Metal bit
Sheet Metal (Trivial at 56)
2 Small Bricks of Ore
Rings (Trivial at 82)
Large Block of Ore, File
Banded Gorget (Trivial at 102)
Metal Sheet, S/M/L Gorget Mold
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Hate not being able to edit my posts =(
Erm...
You can edit your posts... You just click on the link and it opens for editing... I do this all the time!
Great guide BTW.
AlAaraaf.
"Death is coming..."
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Doh!
I just noticed why you couldn't edit! You didn't log in for the second post. Nevermind. Anyhow, since the changes to the forums, you have to log in to post anyway.
You can edit your posts... You just click on the link and it opens for editing... I do this all the time!
Great guide BTW.
AlAaraaf.
"Death is coming..."
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Doh!
I just noticed why you couldn't edit! You didn't log in for the second post. Nevermind. Anyhow, since the changes to the forums, you have to log in to post anyway.
Hi, I'm a newbie trying to learn how skills work, and am interested in smithing. So, if someone will indulge me and tell me how to start out in smithing I would be eternally greatful. Thanks for your time...
Anonymous
Where do I get studs to do tailoring??? I have looked many places,and still not able to find them. I need them for my barb to do tailoring. any help would be appreciated.
Anonymous
you have to make them also.using 3 metal bits and a waterflask
Anonymous
Anyone know where I can get metal bits in Qeynos? I'm a 5th level Cleric and I'd like to start training my Blacksmithing, but I cant find the cursed things.
Anonymous
you have to make them.
Anonymous
*sheepish grin* Okay. Now I feel silly. :)
Thanks.
Sendari
Cleric of Karana, Quellious Server
Thanks.
Sendari
Cleric of Karana, Quellious Server
Anonymous
Anyone have a clue why my rusty Halberd (2hs, 10/59) will not combine with a sharpening stone in the forge?
I get a *these items will not combine in this item* message.
Thanks for any advise!
Myryah
I get a *these items will not combine in this item* message.
Thanks for any advise!
Myryah
Anonymous
what skill do i have to be at to make wepons and how do i do that
Anonymous
is blacksmithing worth all it and wher do i get scaller moldes i know ther in freeport i just dont know wher?
Anonymous
Scalar Molds are sold in East Freeport right next to the Alemakers, one building down from Armor by Ikthar.
Anonymous
If not, try Rivervale. That is where I got mine. It is only a few zones away from FP.
Bamore Braerithryn
Journeyman Smith
Bamore Braerithryn
Journeyman Smith
Anonymous
or just make them with a scaler mold. im a master smithing it gets you rich so hang in there my level is 150.
if anyone could tell me ingredients for making any imbued fine plate armor please send me email:
LaminiBraveKnight@yahoo.com
or here
I have 183skill in smithing
I sell FP armor all the time, i dont spend pp on skilling up, i sell, and skill up as I sell.
I know you have a cleric imbue using a "Diamond".
Now do you imbue the ore? the metal? or the BP itself after its all made already? Thanks
Please say that since I already have a set of fine plate armor, that I can imbue it NOW, after its all already been made.
Lamini - Lvl 40 Human Paladin Of Cazic Thule
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LaminiBraveKnight@yahoo.com
or here
I have 183skill in smithing
I sell FP armor all the time, i dont spend pp on skilling up, i sell, and skill up as I sell.
I know you have a cleric imbue using a "Diamond".
Now do you imbue the ore? the metal? or the BP itself after its all made already? Thanks
Please say that since I already have a set of fine plate armor, that I can imbue it NOW, after its all already been made.
Lamini - Lvl 40 Human Paladin Of Cazic Thule
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Anonymous
for imbued armor, you must imbued the gems.
you must give it to a cleric for that.
Brudin paladin of Brell Serilis in karana server
you must give it to a cleric for that.
Brudin paladin of Brell Serilis in karana server
Anyone know where to find sheets of metal in thurg? Bank doesn't have em... Can't find em anywhere. =(
Jarochai Alabaster
Jarochai Alabaster
In Thurgadin, you have to make your own sheet metal. Buy two small bricks of Ore from Nimren Stonecutter and combine with a flask of water to make a sheet. Trivials about 56, so if you are USING Sheet Metal, you should have no problem making these.
-It makes things a tad more complicated, but just a tad...
-It makes things a tad more complicated, but just a tad...
Question here is how can we create enchanted armor? I see something telling me I need a cleric of my deitie to do this? Somone can help?
You are really touching upon TWO things here:
1) IMBUED Armor/weapons
2) ENCHANTED Armor/weapons
Items that are enchanted are made from a racial metal, like Brellum for Dwarves, Mithril for Elves and Adamantite for Dark Elves. The items are basically made in much the same way as anything else, but the metal must be enchanted using the appropriate spell (Enchant Brellium, Enchant Mithrill etc), which is only available to Enchanters at lvl 49+. Enchanted items can only be used by the races that normally can wear that particular metal.
Items that are Imbued are also made much as you normally would, but have been imbued with the essence of a Deity. This is done by having a Shaman or Cleric of lvl 29+ cast the appropriate spell on the appropriate gemstone. Each Deity has a related gem (Amber for Cazic-Thule, Perridots for Bristlebane, Pearls for Prexus etc.), and you need to have a cleric/shaman who worships that deity cast on the right stone. The stone is then "added to the mix".
Then there are the Enchanted Imbued items, and if you're really clever, you can probably figure out how these are made by yourself ;P
Look here for more specifics on the how/what/where: http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_smithing_cultural_main.htm
1) IMBUED Armor/weapons
2) ENCHANTED Armor/weapons
Items that are enchanted are made from a racial metal, like Brellum for Dwarves, Mithril for Elves and Adamantite for Dark Elves. The items are basically made in much the same way as anything else, but the metal must be enchanted using the appropriate spell (Enchant Brellium, Enchant Mithrill etc), which is only available to Enchanters at lvl 49+. Enchanted items can only be used by the races that normally can wear that particular metal.
Items that are Imbued are also made much as you normally would, but have been imbued with the essence of a Deity. This is done by having a Shaman or Cleric of lvl 29+ cast the appropriate spell on the appropriate gemstone. Each Deity has a related gem (Amber for Cazic-Thule, Perridots for Bristlebane, Pearls for Prexus etc.), and you need to have a cleric/shaman who worships that deity cast on the right stone. The stone is then "added to the mix".
Then there are the Enchanted Imbued items, and if you're really clever, you can probably figure out how these are made by yourself ;P
Look here for more specifics on the how/what/where: http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_smithing_cultural_main.htm
I have three questions.
1. How do you dye armour?
2. Are there a certain number of colors you can use, and if so which ones?
3. I have found armour that is MAGIC but doesn't increase stats or anything, what is so special about it then? Everyone was making a big hype about it.
I would also like to say that if you want to be able to smith some of the armours, you might need to take up tailoring bcause some armours require home made leaterh pads to make.
1. How do you dye armour?
2. Are there a certain number of colors you can use, and if so which ones?
3. I have found armour that is MAGIC but doesn't increase stats or anything, what is so special about it then? Everyone was making a big hype about it.
I would also like to say that if you want to be able to smith some of the armours, you might need to take up tailoring bcause some armours require home made leaterh pads to make.
1. You do this: http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_dyes.htm
2. These are the available colors: http://www.eqtraders.com/fashion/fsdyes_dwarven.html
3. Some things are magical without having stat-bonusses on them. Some have an effect, many are lightsources, for instance. It really doesn't make any kind of difference that a piece of armor is magical, except that some might have very very high ac and/or weigh less than you would expect.
The only real difference is when fighting pure magical creatures, like whisps and Ghouls. These can only be hit with an attack that is magical in nature which means:
a) A Kick (Including the rogue/monk skill "Instil Doubt") won't connect unless your boots are magical.
b) A Punch won't hit unless your gloves are magical.
c) A Bash won't work unless your Shield is magical. (Does anyone know how this applies to the large-race-skill "Slam"?)
True, Leather Padding is a must. Trivial at 41, I believe, so it shouldn't be too hard. Any serious smith will probably find that he buys 95% of his leather padding, however, since you need sooooo many to skill up.
2. These are the available colors: http://www.eqtraders.com/fashion/fsdyes_dwarven.html
3. Some things are magical without having stat-bonusses on them. Some have an effect, many are lightsources, for instance. It really doesn't make any kind of difference that a piece of armor is magical, except that some might have very very high ac and/or weigh less than you would expect.
The only real difference is when fighting pure magical creatures, like whisps and Ghouls. These can only be hit with an attack that is magical in nature which means:
a) A Kick (Including the rogue/monk skill "Instil Doubt") won't connect unless your boots are magical.
b) A Punch won't hit unless your gloves are magical.
c) A Bash won't work unless your Shield is magical. (Does anyone know how this applies to the large-race-skill "Slam"?)
True, Leather Padding is a must. Trivial at 41, I believe, so it shouldn't be too hard. Any serious smith will probably find that he buys 95% of his leather padding, however, since you need sooooo many to skill up.
For Slam you need magic shoulder armor.
Anonymous
How do i raise my blacksmithing skills between Level 120 - 180 (Banded and Fine Plate)
Banded doesn't triv at 120, so you just keep going. Before starting, however, I would suggest getting your skill as far as you can making "Crap". From 120 make pots for a few more points (1 Metal Bit, 1 flask of Water, Pot mold and Standing Legs mold) Triv at 122. Then do Sewing Kits (1 Metal Bit, 1 Flask of Water, Needle Mold and Thimble Mold) Trivial at 135 (Note: The Needle and Thimble Molds are usually found on vendors who sell TAILORING supplies, not the ones you normally go to for smithing molds).
THEN onto banded armor. Make Gauntlets up to 168, and then finish off with Cloaks, which will take yo to 175. Then you can either do your cultural (If indeed your cultural is smithed and goes high enough) OR you can do Fine Steel Plate, the last of which (The cloak again) trivials at a whopping 242.
Have fun, and be ready to buy a new mouse when you're done.
THEN onto banded armor. Make Gauntlets up to 168, and then finish off with Cloaks, which will take yo to 175. Then you can either do your cultural (If indeed your cultural is smithed and goes high enough) OR you can do Fine Steel Plate, the last of which (The cloak again) trivials at a whopping 242.
Have fun, and be ready to buy a new mouse when you're done.
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Where can i find tacklebox
You can buy a tacklebox in The Ocean of Tears, in The Feerott and in West Karana.
Look here for more details: http://www.eqtraders.com/location/fishing.htm
Look here for more details: http://www.eqtraders.com/location/fishing.htm
Anonymous
Okay I gots lots of these bricks 20+.
What can I do with them?
What can I do with them?
I am not exactly sure because I have never had any , but I think you can use it to make large bricks or use them in velium armour and weapons. I am again not sure how to make it or get it.
They are used for making Velium Boning for high-end tailoring ( http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_conversions.htm )
Anonymous
http://lostplane.free.fr/tradeskill/blacksmithing.htm
Its in French but all the recipes are understandable.
Its in French but all the recipes are understandable.
Anonymous
hi.. could anyone tell me where to buy blocks of med quality ore? I tried steamfont mt. but he only have bricks of med quailty ore.. ty)
Anonymous
Go to highkeep to get MQ blocks (21pp) or MQ bricks (7pp) & sold near the bank.
Anonymous
you need to get 3 mq bricks and water to make mq block
Anonymous
Now my smithing is about level 45, and im wondering if i can put any practice points into the skill at this level, the guild is telling me i have to advance though. Any suggestions would be appreciated
Anonymous
Start making skewers and then move to 1 sheet banded armor ..
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nope sorry, u can only put practice points into a skill upto level 25 or 27, forget which one, from there up u have to do it the hard way :-)
Anonymous
well thanks :) with that information i'll use the points elsewhere.
Anonymous
Does anyone know if it is actually possible to make Steel shafts, for bowyering? Steel and Ceramic are both listed as possible materials for making bows with in the in-game Bowyers Guide, so I was wondering if they CAN be made or whether the recipie for them is broken. Obviously if anyone knows the recipie i would appreciate you telling me. :). I cannot smith myself but may well need the information so i can pass it on to a smith on my own server. Should anyone with a high pottery skill glance at this any information on a ceramic bow shaft would also be nice :).
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Yes you can and the recipe is right on allakhazam
Anonymous
YES IT IS TRUE, I REACHED 175!!!!
now the bad news, Im broke!
i plan on selling smithed FS to PC's in East commonlands because anytime i go there, people want them, but according to my calculations, its going to cost me roughly.. i dont know
1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000pp to get to lvl 242, im sry but i meet a few people who say they have grandmaster smithing at 250, and HOW did they do it? no one has that type of money!
is there something wrong with the info that im getting?
now the bad news, Im broke!
i plan on selling smithed FS to PC's in East commonlands because anytime i go there, people want them, but according to my calculations, its going to cost me roughly.. i dont know
1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000pp to get to lvl 242, im sry but i meet a few people who say they have grandmaster smithing at 250, and HOW did they do it? no one has that type of money!
is there something wrong with the info that im getting?
Congratulations... Welcome to Hell. :-) Nothing wrong with your info. As you get high enough in levels, the amount of money it takes to make a few pieces of FP doesn't seem quite so expensive anymore. For folks like me, though, it will make you twinge.
Actually, it's not the cost that's going to get you. It's the painful process you need to go through to make it. Here's the short version of my experience:
MQ Ores: In High Keep
Forge: In High Pass
Molds: Qeynos
So, if you make your folded sheets in High Pass, you need to zone constantly, and run through a dangerous zone. THe ore is VERY heavy, so you can't make much between zonings. I didn't want to do that.
1: I bought as much ore as I could store at the bank.
2: Gated to North Karana
3: Ran to the bank in Qeynos
4: Ran back and forth from bank to Firepride's forge, making folded MQ sheets.
5: Took the sheets to Tin Soldier, bought molds
6: Went to forge outside Tin Soldier, and made Neck pieces.
I wound up with 3 neck guards and 1 skillup to 176. And it took forever with all the running.
I've got a feeling that making Fine Plate for the masses is NOT going to be our main source of income. :-)
Actually, it's not the cost that's going to get you. It's the painful process you need to go through to make it. Here's the short version of my experience:
MQ Ores: In High Keep
Forge: In High Pass
Molds: Qeynos
So, if you make your folded sheets in High Pass, you need to zone constantly, and run through a dangerous zone. THe ore is VERY heavy, so you can't make much between zonings. I didn't want to do that.
1: I bought as much ore as I could store at the bank.
2: Gated to North Karana
3: Ran to the bank in Qeynos
4: Ran back and forth from bank to Firepride's forge, making folded MQ sheets.
5: Took the sheets to Tin Soldier, bought molds
6: Went to forge outside Tin Soldier, and made Neck pieces.
I wound up with 3 neck guards and 1 skillup to 176. And it took forever with all the running.
I've got a feeling that making Fine Plate for the masses is NOT going to be our main source of income. :-)
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do i need a Kejekan Smithy Hammer or is there other smithing hammers i can use for smithing?
Anonymous
Not to sound totally ignorant, but I wanted to know what exactly do I need to make metal bits? I am trying to up my tailoring with studded leather and need metal bits to do so. ty:)
Anonymous
foget making bits if you are a tailor - jump past studded cause its a big ole waste of time and you dont need to do it to raise your level
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Ok.. I know this is goin' to result is a stupid question. But I would like to know if anyone knows how to do chainmail? I can't find anything on this.
- Aideen
- Aideen
Anonymous
You need FOLDED MQ sheets to make plate, that you have to make yourself from blocks of MQ ore. So what are the non-folded MQ sheets that the merchants sell used for?
Anonymous
You make banded armor with the sheet metal. You can raise you exp to around 175 with this..
Grundall Master smith Rodset nife
Grundall Master smith Rodset nife
They are used in some barbarian and freeport cultural weapons.
I have some questions about smithing:
Can you smith velium weapons?
Can you smith velium armor?
Can you smith Blackened alloy weapons and armor?
Can you smith fine steel great staffs?
And what is the best 1hb/1hs that you can make and what skill do you need to make it?
Hope You can answer these. Another thing I would like to say is a helpful hint. If you have high standings with dwarves (or low ones) and want a forging hammer but dont want to waste money to get one, go to crushbone and kill the dwarven smiths, they carry forging hammers on them. Hope this helps.
Can you smith velium weapons?
Can you smith velium armor?
Can you smith Blackened alloy weapons and armor?
Can you smith fine steel great staffs?
And what is the best 1hb/1hs that you can make and what skill do you need to make it?
Hope You can answer these. Another thing I would like to say is a helpful hint. If you have high standings with dwarves (or low ones) and want a forging hammer but dont want to waste money to get one, go to crushbone and kill the dwarven smiths, they carry forging hammers on them. Hope this helps.
1) Yes, there are several recipes for Forged Velium weapons. They are fairly ok, and most have the "Velium Shards" proc.
2) Yes and no. There is no true smithed Velium armor, but Velium is a component of some High end tailored items.
3) Nope. Blackened Alloy are only dropped by MoBs.
4) No, the only Fine Steel items that are smithed are the Fine Steel Plates...I know it makes no sense that you can do one but not the other...It might change some day (Shadows of Luclin?)
5) "The Best" is dificult to define. Here are the stats for most Smithed weapons: http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_smithing_weapon_stats.htm As you can see, they range from "Crap" to "Very nice indeed".
2) Yes and no. There is no true smithed Velium armor, but Velium is a component of some High end tailored items.
3) Nope. Blackened Alloy are only dropped by MoBs.
4) No, the only Fine Steel items that are smithed are the Fine Steel Plates...I know it makes no sense that you can do one but not the other...It might change some day (Shadows of Luclin?)
5) "The Best" is dificult to define. Here are the stats for most Smithed weapons: http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_smithing_weapon_stats.htm As you can see, they range from "Crap" to "Very nice indeed".
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