Blacksmithing
Blacksmiths have the ability to forge their own armor and weapons both for personal use and for sale to others.
What are the best strategies for developing and using the blacksmithing skill? What items are the most and least useful ones to forge? Which classes are best suited to take up this trade? Can you make a profit off of blacksmithing, and if so how? Which cities are the best places to practice your trade?
Post your strategies on how to best use and develop the blacksmithing skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
Anonymous
How do you obtain Smithy Hammers and Teir'Dal Smithy hammers?
Anonymous
Teir’Dal Smithy hammer: 10.5pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor (player reported info)
No one has reported any specific info on race specific hammers, just this info about different races. Be careful, these all may be general hammers. I've looked for northman hammer in Halas as I am a barbarian and no go.
Forging hammers, race specific:
Human Smithy hammer: ?race specific? Bought in north Freeport? General smith hammer is bought in Ikthors One player reports “wrong ingredients” with hammer bought in in NFP, presumably Groflah’s, making full plate (non race specific armor), so I conjecture he got a race specific hammer from Groflah’s.
Elven Smithing Hammer: 18.5pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Dwarven smithing hammer can be bought at Kaladim in mines near bank, 11.3pp, Kaladim 720, 210
Bloarn Norkhitter Ore Vendor.
(for dwarves presumably: scrap metal off clockwork in steamfront, give to Sanfryd Featherhead in Ak’Anon) Also dropped by dwarven smith in Crushbone. There are specific forging hammers for each race. I wonder if there is a recipe to make these in race specific forge.
Teir’Dal Smithy hammer: 10.5pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Iksar forging hammer: 12c?? East Cabilis -430, -40 Weaponsmith Grugl Forging Equipment Vendor
No one has reported any specific info on race specific hammers, just this info about different races. Be careful, these all may be general hammers. I've looked for northman hammer in Halas as I am a barbarian and no go.
Forging hammers, race specific:
Human Smithy hammer: ?race specific? Bought in north Freeport? General smith hammer is bought in Ikthors One player reports “wrong ingredients” with hammer bought in in NFP, presumably Groflah’s, making full plate (non race specific armor), so I conjecture he got a race specific hammer from Groflah’s.
Elven Smithing Hammer: 18.5pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Dwarven smithing hammer can be bought at Kaladim in mines near bank, 11.3pp, Kaladim 720, 210
Bloarn Norkhitter Ore Vendor.
(for dwarves presumably: scrap metal off clockwork in steamfront, give to Sanfryd Featherhead in Ak’Anon) Also dropped by dwarven smith in Crushbone. There are specific forging hammers for each race. I wonder if there is a recipe to make these in race specific forge.
Teir’Dal Smithy hammer: 10.5pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Iksar forging hammer: 12c?? East Cabilis -430, -40 Weaponsmith Grugl Forging Equipment Vendor
Anonymous
Smithy hammer: They are not consumed unless you combine wrong ingredients. I am assuming all the hammers sold at these locals are for fine plate/steel armor used in regular forge. This may be wrong.
Cabilis Warrior guild
East Freeport (15pp) at Ikthors
High Hold Keep near bank,
North Freeport -10, 470 at Groflah’s Kyrin Steelbone Ore Vendor.
Erudin: outside armory, my charisma 113 enchanter was charged 10pp, my charisma 66 barbarian was charged 18pp.
Halas: McDaniels, Ambril, 2nd floor
(Race Specific Smithy hammer: see under individual races.)
CAN A SMITHY HAMMER BE FORGED? This reported recipe gives a “wrong ingredients” message when made in regular forge: block ore (10pp), water.) wt 18
Block of ore: 3 large bricks of ore, water (cost to make 5pp) trivial below 157, wt 25
Large brick ore 1575-1975c wt 25.4 (Erudin, HH Keep, North Freeport at Groflah’s) East Cabilis -535, 20 Smithy Xzatik Ore Vendor
Recipe for Large Brick ore: 3 small bricks of ore (525c), water (cost to make 1948c) small bricks ore are sold by basic ore vendors in Erudin, North Freeport, HighHold Keep.
Cabilis Warrior guild
East Freeport (15pp) at Ikthors
High Hold Keep near bank,
North Freeport -10, 470 at Groflah’s Kyrin Steelbone Ore Vendor.
Erudin: outside armory, my charisma 113 enchanter was charged 10pp, my charisma 66 barbarian was charged 18pp.
Halas: McDaniels, Ambril, 2nd floor
(Race Specific Smithy hammer: see under individual races.)
CAN A SMITHY HAMMER BE FORGED? This reported recipe gives a “wrong ingredients” message when made in regular forge: block ore (10pp), water.) wt 18
Block of ore: 3 large bricks of ore, water (cost to make 5pp) trivial below 157, wt 25
Large brick ore 1575-1975c wt 25.4 (Erudin, HH Keep, North Freeport at Groflah’s) East Cabilis -535, 20 Smithy Xzatik Ore Vendor
Recipe for Large Brick ore: 3 small bricks of ore (525c), water (cost to make 1948c) small bricks ore are sold by basic ore vendors in Erudin, North Freeport, HighHold Keep.
Anonymous
I've gotten a few of these from Everfrost when hunting down the crystals. Was wondering how can I use it to make folded sheets of metal. I can't seem to find the recipe for it on either Allakhazam's or EQCasters. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
Anonymous
SHEETS, FOLDED SHEETS
Sheet metal: 2 small bricks of ore, water (venders sell for 1295c) (cost to make 1313c) (venders buy back at 774c), cottage in qeynos hills, East Cabilis 230, -290 Klok Naloz Sectional Molds Vendor, East Freeport 70, -205 Issilyn Ristan Chain Sectional Vendor, 1.1pp
Folded sheet of metal: block of ore, water, smithy hammer?, cost to make5pp
Medium quality sheet metal: on vendor in High Hold Keep near bank, Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill, 4.5pp
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer. Cost to make 21pp Trivial below 127.
High quality folded sheet metal: block of (high quality?) ore, water, smithy hammer. Cost to make 10pp
BLOCKS:
Block of ore: 3 large bricks of ore, water (cost to make 5pp) trivial below 157, wt 25. Recipe verified.
Large block of ore 5830c
Medium Quality Block of Ore: 3 Medium Quality
Large Bricks of Ore, Water (this recipe verified by Eforty Ounce), on vendor in High Hold Keep, near bank. Cost to make 21pp
Broken block of ore: Herb Jar, South Qeynos, 1806c
BRICKS:
small brick ore 649-658c (to a high charisma erudite in Erudin 525) wt. 15,. East Cabilis ore vendor. (Erudin, North Freeport, High Hold Keep)
large brick ore 1946-1975c, sells back for 1162 so don’t buy it unless you need it. (to a high charisma erudite in Erudin 1575) wt 25.4 OR 3 small bricks of ore, water (cost to make 1948c) (vender sells for 1946) (Erudin, North Freeport, High Hold Keep), East Cabilis ore vendor.
medium quality small brick ore: on vendor in High Hold keep near bank
medium quality large brick of ore: on vendor in High Hold keep near bank. 7pp Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill
medium quality Small and large bricks ore reportedly at: kaladim, South Ro, Lavastorm at Gypsies, Rathe mountain at gypsies, East Freeport at Imported Goods, Qeynos, Paineel at merchant at entrance to Hole.
High quality small brick ore (silver in color)17pp (HH keep, Miner Harton) wt 7, permafrost goblins near King room, Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Enchantable with enchant steel. Vendor buys for 2818c.
High quality large brick ore (silver in color), wt 14, permafrost goblins near King room. Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Halas, magic shop 41pp (may not be regular stock item) Enchantable with enchant steel.
Sheet metal: 2 small bricks of ore, water (venders sell for 1295c) (cost to make 1313c) (venders buy back at 774c), cottage in qeynos hills, East Cabilis 230, -290 Klok Naloz Sectional Molds Vendor, East Freeport 70, -205 Issilyn Ristan Chain Sectional Vendor, 1.1pp
Folded sheet of metal: block of ore, water, smithy hammer?, cost to make5pp
Medium quality sheet metal: on vendor in High Hold Keep near bank, Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill, 4.5pp
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer. Cost to make 21pp Trivial below 127.
High quality folded sheet metal: block of (high quality?) ore, water, smithy hammer. Cost to make 10pp
BLOCKS:
Block of ore: 3 large bricks of ore, water (cost to make 5pp) trivial below 157, wt 25. Recipe verified.
Large block of ore 5830c
Medium Quality Block of Ore: 3 Medium Quality
Large Bricks of Ore, Water (this recipe verified by Eforty Ounce), on vendor in High Hold Keep, near bank. Cost to make 21pp
Broken block of ore: Herb Jar, South Qeynos, 1806c
BRICKS:
small brick ore 649-658c (to a high charisma erudite in Erudin 525) wt. 15,. East Cabilis ore vendor. (Erudin, North Freeport, High Hold Keep)
large brick ore 1946-1975c, sells back for 1162 so don’t buy it unless you need it. (to a high charisma erudite in Erudin 1575) wt 25.4 OR 3 small bricks of ore, water (cost to make 1948c) (vender sells for 1946) (Erudin, North Freeport, High Hold Keep), East Cabilis ore vendor.
medium quality small brick ore: on vendor in High Hold keep near bank
medium quality large brick of ore: on vendor in High Hold keep near bank. 7pp Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill
medium quality Small and large bricks ore reportedly at: kaladim, South Ro, Lavastorm at Gypsies, Rathe mountain at gypsies, East Freeport at Imported Goods, Qeynos, Paineel at merchant at entrance to Hole.
High quality small brick ore (silver in color)17pp (HH keep, Miner Harton) wt 7, permafrost goblins near King room, Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Enchantable with enchant steel. Vendor buys for 2818c.
High quality large brick ore (silver in color), wt 14, permafrost goblins near King room. Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Halas, magic shop 41pp (may not be regular stock item) Enchantable with enchant steel.
Anonymous
hmm, maybe i should clarify what it is i'm after.
Is there a recipe to turn small bricks of ore into medium bricks of ore in order to get block of ore so i can make folded sheets?
Is there a recipe to turn small bricks of ore into medium bricks of ore in order to get block of ore so i can make folded sheets?
Anonymous
You 2 small bricks of High Quality ore and a water make a high guality sheet of metal. Worthless as far as I can tell cause all recipies discovered so far require only folded.
To make a folded you must combine 3 small bricks of HQ ore and a water to get a large brick of HQ ore. Then combine 3 large bricks of HQ ore and a water (no hammer) to get a HQ block of ore.
Then combine Block of HQ ore, water and smithy hammer in regular forge to get HQ folded sheet metal (not sure if will work in specialty forge but did this afternoon in regular forge).
Gzar Zigdog - Smith of the Kindred - Saryrn server
To make a folded you must combine 3 small bricks of HQ ore and a water to get a large brick of HQ ore. Then combine 3 large bricks of HQ ore and a water (no hammer) to get a HQ block of ore.
Then combine Block of HQ ore, water and smithy hammer in regular forge to get HQ folded sheet metal (not sure if will work in specialty forge but did this afternoon in regular forge).
Gzar Zigdog - Smith of the Kindred - Saryrn server
Anonymous
Can halfelves make anythis new armor?
Are Blue Diamonds used for Smithing?
Are Blue Diamonds used for Smithing?
Scholar
17 posts
If I understand it correctly, blue diamonds are a spell component for one o' the enchanter Enchant <insert name o' metal here> spells (Mithril or Adamantite or Steel, not sure which). Half-elves, not bein' one thing 'r the other, can't use either the elf or human cultural forges, but they kin do all the fine plate (the dyable stuff) plus some esoteric recipes that are tricklin' in as discovered.
Speakin' o' esoteric recipes - if ye give a silver bar ta the gnome werewolf-hunter in North Karana (they hang out near the north zone wall) 'e will give ye a book o' recipes fer enchanted silver weapons. I 'aven't been able ta try out any o' the recipes yet meself - they require HQ ore, and therefore a very high level enchanter in all likelihood ta enchant the ore. Worth lookin' into, tho.
Speakin' o' esoteric recipes - if ye give a silver bar ta the gnome werewolf-hunter in North Karana (they hang out near the north zone wall) 'e will give ye a book o' recipes fer enchanted silver weapons. I 'aven't been able ta try out any o' the recipes yet meself - they require HQ ore, and therefore a very high level enchanter in all likelihood ta enchant the ore. Worth lookin' into, tho.
Anonymous
tell us the recipes, please?
Scholar
17 posts
Okie, 'ere's a transcript o' the book ol' Fixxin gives ye fer the bar o' silver:
Fixxin Followig's Silvery Blades
Enchanted silver blades are a must for any would be monster hunter. A silver blade in the gut is the quickest cure for lycanthropy and undeath.
Enchanted silver weapons must be forged from high quality or that has been enchanted by a master enchanter such as myself. A sheet of the enchanted ore must be melted down with an enchanted bar of silver into the appropriate molds and tempered with a flask of water.
Weapons crafted in the manner described will be quick and deadly to any supernatural beast in the hands of a skilled warrior.
May lycanthropes everywhere tremble in fear from the glistening of silver blades under the light of the full moon!
***
From the above, I gather that ye need 1 Enchanted HQ Sheet of Metal + 1 Enchanted Silver Bar + (Molds appropriate fer the weapon ye're tryin' ta make) + Flask of Water. No mention is made o' any cultural forges bein' necessary, but the enchanted HQ ore will be problematic - probably requires a 49th lvl enchanter and a really expensive gem (don't know the details yet meself).
Fixxin Followig's Silvery Blades
Enchanted silver blades are a must for any would be monster hunter. A silver blade in the gut is the quickest cure for lycanthropy and undeath.
Enchanted silver weapons must be forged from high quality or that has been enchanted by a master enchanter such as myself. A sheet of the enchanted ore must be melted down with an enchanted bar of silver into the appropriate molds and tempered with a flask of water.
Weapons crafted in the manner described will be quick and deadly to any supernatural beast in the hands of a skilled warrior.
May lycanthropes everywhere tremble in fear from the glistening of silver blades under the light of the full moon!
***
From the above, I gather that ye need 1 Enchanted HQ Sheet of Metal + 1 Enchanted Silver Bar + (Molds appropriate fer the weapon ye're tryin' ta make) + Flask of Water. No mention is made o' any cultural forges bein' necessary, but the enchanted HQ ore will be problematic - probably requires a 49th lvl enchanter and a really expensive gem (don't know the details yet meself).
Anonymous
Is it just me or is Verant trying to kid us again? First all they did was say how this would be a patch for 30ish lvl chars. Well the meant 30th lvl twinked characters. Very few at 30th lvl can afford fine plate and then they can find some that is better for much lesss or items like bronze for 10% the cost and only on average 10% worse than fine plate. It is just ridiculous how much effort u have to put into the obtaining of the ore and then the backings to turn around and charge 21 plat per folded sheet (and at 176 skill i have smithed 2 times with 15 backings each time and blown 40 plat on each round failing the combining of bricks into a bloack and the blocks into a sheet *very trivial*) so thats 80 plat gone with nothing to show for it before i even attempted armor. Then we have racial armor - for 30ish lvl chars ( i think the stats arent bad but have heard many gripes and considering the efoort required maybe they should be godlike) *also of note - many sites with people claiming to camp the stuff with 50plus lvl pets and then farming them - real 30th lvl stuff* Then the cost for it is huge - only higher lvl guys can afford the pieces and then hope u dont fail. I say at least let us make the brellium (or equivilant) using regular tempers (like instead of earthen temper use dwarven ale) and only use the rare stuff for the actual enchanted armor. PLEASE then that would help us smiths out who want to smith and not camp when we are sleeping with our pets.
What type of sheets you talking about? To make fine plate/steel you need MQ folded sheets that cost 21pp per attempt to produce (3 step process)
Sheets of metal cost 4.5pp to make (3 step process)
What sort of failure message are you getting. I suspect you have wrong recipes. To help you, write down specifically what you a doing, be careful folded, plain, MQ, HQ, no quality specified. Pay attention to forge.
Go to below web site for detailed info.
Sheets of metal cost 4.5pp to make (3 step process)
What sort of failure message are you getting. I suspect you have wrong recipes. To help you, write down specifically what you a doing, be careful folded, plain, MQ, HQ, no quality specified. Pay attention to forge.
Go to below web site for detailed info.
Anonymous
well I make lots of the folded sheets (mq) and get the message "you lacked the skill to make this item but have made an alernative product" being my hammer. Its just a plain failure is all and i seem to get one while making the first step (the large brick) and 1 making the 2nd step (the sheets) on every 15 tries and so far a whopping 1 gain for lots of work and my bank account almost dead ( i used half the armor i made for myself and my wife) Its the cost of the aRMOR IM TALKING ABOUT - 80 A TRY FOR BREAST PLATES AND COUNT ON 50% FAILURE and that makes it an avg 0f 160 plus the efort to get the backing and when u can buy a bronze bp for 15 plat and 15 ac not many want to pay 160 (no profit) for 2 whole armor class?
Yes, even without failures, pricing is a humongous problem with fine plate. Those that are successful report brisk sales though, go figure.
Knarmon
Knarmon
Anonymous
anyone know where the vendor is that sells file molds in cabalis?
Scholar
17 posts
If memory serves, the vendor that has 'em is jes outsides the warrior's guild in East Cabilis
Anonymous
what is a scale temper? it says it is one of the ingredients for the enchanted iksar armor, i know all the other ingredients but can find out nothing about this scale temper
any help would be greatly appreciated
Scholar
17 posts
Scale Temper is made by brewing Iksar Blood + Froglok Blood + Sarnak Blood + Bloodwater together in a brew barrel. Evidently the trivial point for brewing tempers is 135, so ye might wanna make sure ye're skill is up ta snuff before tryin' ta brew this stuff.
Froglok blood is fairly common in the Guks, sarnak blood kin be found on most mid to high level sarnaks, and bloodwater is bought in several places in Cabilis. The Iksar Blood, however, is the rare one - it is a rare drop on 30th+ level iksar mobs and uncommon drop on 45th+ level iksar mobs. They are dropped rarely on Coerced Iksar types in Dalnir's Crypt, and more commonly on Iksar necromancers in Sebilis.
If anyone has found any other reliable sources o' the Iksar Blood, I'd love ta hear about it - a good friend is an Iksar smith lookin' ta make some o' the imbued stuff.
Froglok blood is fairly common in the Guks, sarnak blood kin be found on most mid to high level sarnaks, and bloodwater is bought in several places in Cabilis. The Iksar Blood, however, is the rare one - it is a rare drop on 30th+ level iksar mobs and uncommon drop on 45th+ level iksar mobs. They are dropped rarely on Coerced Iksar types in Dalnir's Crypt, and more commonly on Iksar necromancers in Sebilis.
If anyone has found any other reliable sources o' the Iksar Blood, I'd love ta hear about it - a good friend is an Iksar smith lookin' ta make some o' the imbued stuff.
Anonymous
The Iksar Exiles found in the swamp and in Warslik's Woods will drop Iksar blood, they are in the low to mid twenties.
Anonymous
I understand that this is the wrong forum to ask, but does anybody know what skill level is needed to successfully create the leather backing needed in forging FS plate armor? I made another post in the tailoring forum, but I feel that smithes would know just as well as tailors. Thanks.
Anonymous
I'm not sure of the trivial level, but I have no trouble making it at 30 skill.
I've made 4 stacks of leather backing, with tailor skill of 105, but suspect trivial is way below that. No failures ever. 1 silk thread (from 2 spiderling silks combined in sewing kit), and 1 low quality pelt (combined in sewing kit)
I found that I had to accumuate that many pelts I ended up using low, med, and high quality wolf, cat skins (and LQ and MQ bear), using a skinning knife to lower them a grade. Everfrost is great place to get pelts, as valleys heard the wolves and bears together and you kill them and spiderlings non stop without pausing almost. I tailored them into stackable leather backings on the spot. The threads stack, but the silks and pelts don't.
Skinning knife: use with tailor skill to lower grade of pelt one notch.
Small brick of ore 525c, Hilt Mold 648c, Dagger blade mold 13c, water. trivial at 37.
(See under weapons above for long list of mold locations)
Dagger Molds available at: Western Karana about –13,000 north side of main east west road. (by main east west road towards east end of zone, at -2000, -13000 (old weapon molds locations)
Hilt molds available at: qeynos Ironforge estates, halas (new weapon mold locations)
Using a skinning knife: in sewing kit place knife and MQ pelt to get LQ pelt, (HQ pelt give MQ, and LQ pelt gives ruined.)
I found that I had to accumuate that many pelts I ended up using low, med, and high quality wolf, cat skins (and LQ and MQ bear), using a skinning knife to lower them a grade. Everfrost is great place to get pelts, as valleys heard the wolves and bears together and you kill them and spiderlings non stop without pausing almost. I tailored them into stackable leather backings on the spot. The threads stack, but the silks and pelts don't.
Skinning knife: use with tailor skill to lower grade of pelt one notch.
Small brick of ore 525c, Hilt Mold 648c, Dagger blade mold 13c, water. trivial at 37.
(See under weapons above for long list of mold locations)
Dagger Molds available at: Western Karana about –13,000 north side of main east west road. (by main east west road towards east end of zone, at -2000, -13000 (old weapon molds locations)
Hilt molds available at: qeynos Ironforge estates, halas (new weapon mold locations)
Using a skinning knife: in sewing kit place knife and MQ pelt to get LQ pelt, (HQ pelt give MQ, and LQ pelt gives ruined.)
Anonymous
Leather padding becomes trivial at a skill 31
Anonymous
Does anyone know what skill you need to make the Teir'Dal Chain Tunic and how hard is it to get the items needed from a brewer?
Anonymous
Dear Aunt May,
Grrr... I was offered 100 for a RED FINE PLATE BP.... I explained what was involved and he went up to 175. I feel a little insulted. Should I?
Grrr... I was offered 100 for a RED FINE PLATE BP.... I explained what was involved and he went up to 175. I feel a little insulted. Should I?
Anonymous
I think he -like other people- doesn't know what a effort to take to create FS armor. It sometimes makes me mad too. I had one guy came up and said 'could you make me red fs helm?' when I explained it will take sometime for me to make... he said NM... Yes, lots of people think we can make FS armor and dye them right here and right now. I try to make my invnetory well maintained... but still no room for everything :(
I charge BP 300pp...100pp is my cost to make. 100pp for if i fizzle. 100pp for my time running around :) If they offer less than 200pp, its not worth of making BP for them, unless they are your friends. If they don't see it worth paying 300pp, fine :) they don't have to buy it.
I charge BP 300pp...100pp is my cost to make. 100pp for if i fizzle. 100pp for my time running around :) If they offer less than 200pp, its not worth of making BP for them, unless they are your friends. If they don't see it worth paying 300pp, fine :) they don't have to buy it.
Hard to be patient sometimes as these are future customers. I hate it when peppered with half hour of questions, they insist on you traveling to THEM as they don't know the zone, then you discover they don't have one tenth the money they need, which you told them up front. Then they call you a thief. Heh, let the water roll off. I wish them well and disappear.
Anonymous
Okay, maybe I'm just silly but... how does one acquire the imbued gems to make the enchanted armor, most specifiaclly for the iksar?
Slarth Razorclaw
Slarth Razorclaw
Anonymous
these are from my notes, second hand information, seems reliable.
Imbued Amber, Jade: will be used by Iksar
Imbued items general comments:
These are for race specific smithing recipes. The components are made with level 34 Halas Shaman spell, or level 28 Cabilis shaman spell, or level 28 cleric spell from West Freeport Temple of Marr.
In Barbarian specific armor, there is imbued ivory and imbued jade that is part of recipes. Components and sources for these high level spell (shaman levl 28-34 depending on race) made items unknown. Other racially specific armor had imbued components also, amber, titanium etc.
Logged Thunndaar writes: There are LOTS OF IMBUE SPELLS. Check with your local cleric. Imbued is deity specific.
Imbued stones, and diety: Ivory - The Tribunal (verified) (vendors buy for 6pp), Jade - Rallos Zek, Amber - Cazic Thule, Sapphire – Innoruuk Plains Pebble (foraged) – Karana, a diamond 211pp - Mithanial Marr. Bertoxxulous - black sapphire, 105pp. Bristlebane - peridot, 10.5pp.
There is one likely one stone per diety.
Clerics and Rangers only wear the imbued. Imbued armor is diety restricted.
If agnostic, no beliefs, no armor.
Imbued Amber, Jade: will be used by Iksar
Imbued items general comments:
These are for race specific smithing recipes. The components are made with level 34 Halas Shaman spell, or level 28 Cabilis shaman spell, or level 28 cleric spell from West Freeport Temple of Marr.
In Barbarian specific armor, there is imbued ivory and imbued jade that is part of recipes. Components and sources for these high level spell (shaman levl 28-34 depending on race) made items unknown. Other racially specific armor had imbued components also, amber, titanium etc.
Logged Thunndaar writes: There are LOTS OF IMBUE SPELLS. Check with your local cleric. Imbued is deity specific.
Imbued stones, and diety: Ivory - The Tribunal (verified) (vendors buy for 6pp), Jade - Rallos Zek, Amber - Cazic Thule, Sapphire – Innoruuk Plains Pebble (foraged) – Karana, a diamond 211pp - Mithanial Marr. Bertoxxulous - black sapphire, 105pp. Bristlebane - peridot, 10.5pp.
There is one likely one stone per diety.
Clerics and Rangers only wear the imbued. Imbued armor is diety restricted.
If agnostic, no beliefs, no armor.
Scholar
17 posts
One 'r two points o' clarification...
Each o' the gems is specific to a deity, and anything made with a perticular gem will only be usable by followers o' that deity. There are, 'owever, a number o' cultural armor (and likely weapons) types that only use stuff enchanted by Enchanters (no imbued gems) and are therefore not deity specific (i.e. even the Agnostics out there kin use 'em).
Dwarven armor, fer instance, comes in two magic flavors - enchanted and imbued enchanted. Ye kin choose ta make it with or without a gem (the imbued enchanted is 'arder ta make than the plain vanilla enchanted version accordin' ta Yakatizma, wouldn't know meself).
Each o' the gems is specific to a deity, and anything made with a perticular gem will only be usable by followers o' that deity. There are, 'owever, a number o' cultural armor (and likely weapons) types that only use stuff enchanted by Enchanters (no imbued gems) and are therefore not deity specific (i.e. even the Agnostics out there kin use 'em).
Dwarven armor, fer instance, comes in two magic flavors - enchanted and imbued enchanted. Ye kin choose ta make it with or without a gem (the imbued enchanted is 'arder ta make than the plain vanilla enchanted version accordin' ta Yakatizma, wouldn't know meself).
Woo Hoo!! (Pats himself on back)
Made my first Imbued Koada Dal Falchion
dam 7 delay 24, wt 5, str 3, wis 3.
Skill gain to 176. By golly that was effort.
Makes a fine 2nd weapon for my ladies Ranger to go with her Ebony blade(same delay/damage stats), well not all of us can afford 2 yaks yet.
BTW the standard falchion was trivial at 175 and its non magical and expensive (about 60 plat to make) so I would say dont bother.
On a side note I was told by a wood elf making weapons that the Rapier is a very nice weapon something like 20 delay, 6 dam, and cheaper and easier to make. - Will try and find out more though.
Made my first Imbued Koada Dal Falchion
dam 7 delay 24, wt 5, str 3, wis 3.
Skill gain to 176. By golly that was effort.
Makes a fine 2nd weapon for my ladies Ranger to go with her Ebony blade(same delay/damage stats), well not all of us can afford 2 yaks yet.
BTW the standard falchion was trivial at 175 and its non magical and expensive (about 60 plat to make) so I would say dont bother.
On a side note I was told by a wood elf making weapons that the Rapier is a very nice weapon something like 20 delay, 6 dam, and cheaper and easier to make. - Will try and find out more though.
Anonymous
Are these the same? Since the former takes an imbued emerald I would assume yes.
Koala'Dal Falchion Enchanted Koala'Dal Falchion, Imbued Koada Dal Falchion
Do I have any errors in recipe below? (from my notes)
Koala'Dal Falchion Curved Blade Mold, Hilt Mold, Pommel Mold, Morning Dew, Folded Sheet of Mithril. Seagull reports trivial at 175, non magical, dam 7, delay 24, wt 5. Cost 60pp to make.
Koala'Dal Falchion Enchanted Koala'Dal Falchion , same as above, add imbued emerald, and moonlight temper. Cost 85pp.
Imbued Koada Dal Falchion: ?same as enchanted? Made by Seagull who reports: dam 7 delay 24, wt 5, str 3, wis 3. Non trivial at 175.
Koala'Dal Falchion Enchanted Koala'Dal Falchion, Imbued Koada Dal Falchion
Do I have any errors in recipe below? (from my notes)
Koala'Dal Falchion Curved Blade Mold, Hilt Mold, Pommel Mold, Morning Dew, Folded Sheet of Mithril. Seagull reports trivial at 175, non magical, dam 7, delay 24, wt 5. Cost 60pp to make.
Koala'Dal Falchion Enchanted Koala'Dal Falchion , same as above, add imbued emerald, and moonlight temper. Cost 85pp.
Imbued Koada Dal Falchion: ?same as enchanted? Made by Seagull who reports: dam 7 delay 24, wt 5, str 3, wis 3. Non trivial at 175.
Anonymous
Imbued = enchanted.
Moonlight temper REPLACES the Morning dew.
Recipe above is otherwise correct(AS PER NPC).
Also remember you dont need hammer in there for weapons... doh.. stupid me.. took me a minute to figure that one out.
Another thing. Temper is only free because you cant buy it anywhere. Which makes it expensive in terms of time or buying from players. And Moonlight temper is pretty extreme in that sense, expect to camp more then a few hours for a swirling mist. And mistmoor is not an easy zone unless you are pretty high or know the place well. Dew seems to come easy to Iksars and very skilled foragers only.
I believe tempers are trivial at 135 not somewhere below that as infered on some sites.. I thought, Hey try it at 115, bored of making tujims, it wasnt trivial.. Ooooh I would have been pissed if it had failed.
Now to make some enchanted mithril chain in particular a tunic.... I have a helpful financial backer for this one luckily and Quote "money will not be an issue.. lol...". So I wont need to pull any favors from high levellers. (and there should be a few spare bits left over I hope)
Waffle Waffle Waffle..
Lunch Over..
Mr Seagull
Moonlight temper REPLACES the Morning dew.
Recipe above is otherwise correct(AS PER NPC).
Also remember you dont need hammer in there for weapons... doh.. stupid me.. took me a minute to figure that one out.
Another thing. Temper is only free because you cant buy it anywhere. Which makes it expensive in terms of time or buying from players. And Moonlight temper is pretty extreme in that sense, expect to camp more then a few hours for a swirling mist. And mistmoor is not an easy zone unless you are pretty high or know the place well. Dew seems to come easy to Iksars and very skilled foragers only.
I believe tempers are trivial at 135 not somewhere below that as infered on some sites.. I thought, Hey try it at 115, bored of making tujims, it wasnt trivial.. Ooooh I would have been pissed if it had failed.
Now to make some enchanted mithril chain in particular a tunic.... I have a helpful financial backer for this one luckily and Quote "money will not be an issue.. lol...". So I wont need to pull any favors from high levellers. (and there should be a few spare bits left over I hope)
Waffle Waffle Waffle..
Lunch Over..
Mr Seagull
Anonymous
I have forged Imbued Ogre War splint mail with imbued jade, it wont work. I have checked several web pages for the ingreediants and I am mixing it correctly. Also, where is the NPC that tells you how/what to mix? I have found some errors in mixing even from the NPCs in games info on ogre war plate.
Anonymous
There are lots of reasons for failures like this. To help sleuth this out report exactly what you did. I notice ogre made weapons require amber, ivory, or jade depending on weapon. I have seen no reports anywhere I've looked on ogre made imbued armor. I'm sure you checked Rooke's list of info on racially forged items. I haven't in a while.
Obviously it requires a race specific forge. Tell us where you got the recipe.
Obviously it requires a race specific forge. Tell us where you got the recipe.
Anonymous
well I checked allakhazam's, eqmerchants, eqtraders, and a few others. I stil havent found any NPC or book that tells how to do it. Just have only went by the web sites. I only tried imbued jade since sites said imbued jade or amber. I used the oggok forge and it just gave me the error as if i mixed incorrect ingreediants.
I have been purposefully gathering information, accumulating stacks of leather padding and skilling up to 175 making banded armor before making fine plate/steel.
Considering all the unknowns after the vast amounts of posts on this board as to success rates, and some other data needed in planning of making full sets of armor involving major travel barriers, I am deliberately not making any until I can make at least 20 attempts so as to have meaningful success data, and perhaps even start to get a feel if there is a difficulty difference between body locations of armor. Ultimately we need trivial levels for each body part.
In planning my trip from qeynos to high hold I did pre game calcuations. With a charisma 65 barbarian the medium quality folded sheets to make a single set of armor with 100% success rate will cost 920pp. With a 100 charisma player purchasing the ores it will cost 705 pp.
No one has said if the folded sheets stack or not. I am traveling with a both my high charisma enchanter, and my smithy barbarian. If they don't stack that is 25 inventory slots they take up. Over 3 bags worth, and if I had the money, I'd bring back enough for 3 sets of armor at least (3000pp), 9 backpacks! I need to haul it all back to west coast because that is where the molds are.
No one has mentioned weights of any of these items either, the MQ bricks, blocks, folded sheets
The molds will cost 133 to 166 pp (if I added right) with charisma 100 and 65 respectively. The leather backings are mainly a time investment, which I've done already.
So, wish my level 6 enchanter well, as he travels invisible from qeynos to highhold. At least he can gate back to qeynos, when the purchases are complete.
Considering all the unknowns after the vast amounts of posts on this board as to success rates, and some other data needed in planning of making full sets of armor involving major travel barriers, I am deliberately not making any until I can make at least 20 attempts so as to have meaningful success data, and perhaps even start to get a feel if there is a difficulty difference between body locations of armor. Ultimately we need trivial levels for each body part.
In planning my trip from qeynos to high hold I did pre game calcuations. With a charisma 65 barbarian the medium quality folded sheets to make a single set of armor with 100% success rate will cost 920pp. With a 100 charisma player purchasing the ores it will cost 705 pp.
No one has said if the folded sheets stack or not. I am traveling with a both my high charisma enchanter, and my smithy barbarian. If they don't stack that is 25 inventory slots they take up. Over 3 bags worth, and if I had the money, I'd bring back enough for 3 sets of armor at least (3000pp), 9 backpacks! I need to haul it all back to west coast because that is where the molds are.
No one has mentioned weights of any of these items either, the MQ bricks, blocks, folded sheets
The molds will cost 133 to 166 pp (if I added right) with charisma 100 and 65 respectively. The leather backings are mainly a time investment, which I've done already.
So, wish my level 6 enchanter well, as he travels invisible from qeynos to highhold. At least he can gate back to qeynos, when the purchases are complete.
Anonymous
High Elf, str including all my +str modifiers = 89
Knarmon, re: your questions about the weights of the various items
The blocks of MQ Ore weigh 14 stones each, multiply that by 3 for 42 stones to make one MQ Folded sheet, resulting sheet weighs 18, non stackable. Essentially I can crawl to the forge and make about 3 Folded MQ Sheets at a time
- Arakine
Knarmon, re: your questions about the weights of the various items
The blocks of MQ Ore weigh 14 stones each, multiply that by 3 for 42 stones to make one MQ Folded sheet, resulting sheet weighs 18, non stackable. Essentially I can crawl to the forge and make about 3 Folded MQ Sheets at a time
- Arakine
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Small update
121 str, 212 wis - dwarven cleric
I started by making 30 sheets of Medium Quality Folded metal sheets and storing them in the bank. I have guild mates and friends helping to get spiderling silks and pelts to make leather backings. Like you, I wanted to have a vast amount before I did a session of smithing.
I have Cha gear tha puts me at 111 and the cost of making 1 MQ folded sheet is 20 pp 5 g and some silver for each Block of MQ ore. I am currently working on FP visors (last piece that uses 1 sheet of metal).
Sunday 10/8/00 I had 30 sheets of metal and purchased 30 molds for visors.
I went through all 30 with 2 failed attempts (successfully making 28 visors) and did not gain any skill.
Last night I started with 29 sheets of metal and after 15 sheets, gained 1 point. I failed once during those 15 sheet. Then I successfully made 5 more visors and gained another point. The last 9 sheets I failed once more and did not gain any further skill points. I am currently at 184 and visors are still not trivial. I think I mentioned earlier that bracers trivial at 182. Collars were trivial at that point also. Based upon the banded trivials, I would tend to believe that collars trivial somewhere around 180.
121 str, 212 wis - dwarven cleric
I started by making 30 sheets of Medium Quality Folded metal sheets and storing them in the bank. I have guild mates and friends helping to get spiderling silks and pelts to make leather backings. Like you, I wanted to have a vast amount before I did a session of smithing.
I have Cha gear tha puts me at 111 and the cost of making 1 MQ folded sheet is 20 pp 5 g and some silver for each Block of MQ ore. I am currently working on FP visors (last piece that uses 1 sheet of metal).
Sunday 10/8/00 I had 30 sheets of metal and purchased 30 molds for visors.
I went through all 30 with 2 failed attempts (successfully making 28 visors) and did not gain any skill.
Last night I started with 29 sheets of metal and after 15 sheets, gained 1 point. I failed once during those 15 sheet. Then I successfully made 5 more visors and gained another point. The last 9 sheets I failed once more and did not gain any further skill points. I am currently at 184 and visors are still not trivial. I think I mentioned earlier that bracers trivial at 182. Collars were trivial at that point also. Based upon the banded trivials, I would tend to believe that collars trivial somewhere around 180.
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you don't want to run around with 25 sheets, they weight 18 a piece ;-)
and don't stack. same with the bricks. so clean your bank. the vendor in hh is not far from the bank. i am really happy to be a wizard and can be bound in hh and then gate near to a forge.
only at skill 177 now, so i can just state what i read and that is that bracers and gorgets are trivial at 181, well, i will try to find out today. success rate was 9 out of 10 gorgets...not bad, aye? my stats are 187 int, 69 str.
and don't stack. same with the bricks. so clean your bank. the vendor in hh is not far from the bank. i am really happy to be a wizard and can be bound in hh and then gate near to a forge.
only at skill 177 now, so i can just state what i read and that is that bracers and gorgets are trivial at 181, well, i will try to find out today. success rate was 9 out of 10 gorgets...not bad, aye? my stats are 187 int, 69 str.
Anonymous
Antonian Javelin: Damage 8, Delay 30, Range 250
Made by Humans
Made by Humans
Anonymous
I believe I got recipe from Rooke's charts on racially forged armor as linked to on Allakhazam.
Made by Humans only in the Royal Qeynos Forge in clock tower plaze South Qeynos.
Antonian Javalin = Medium Quality Sheet + Flask of Water + Javelin Mold. 4.7pp (low charisma price)
Javelin molds available in:
North Qeynos 25, 55 Dren Ironforge Weapon Molds Vendor, (personal observation)
Kaladim 400, -160 Bndainy Everhot Weapon Molds Vendor, upstairs, (player report)
West Freeport -175, -345 Jynsa Smithson Weapon Blade Molds Vendor (player report)
If you make it, please give your smith level and whether trivial or not, also how many success per how many attempts.
Made by Humans only in the Royal Qeynos Forge in clock tower plaze South Qeynos.
Antonian Javalin = Medium Quality Sheet + Flask of Water + Javelin Mold. 4.7pp (low charisma price)
Javelin molds available in:
North Qeynos 25, 55 Dren Ironforge Weapon Molds Vendor, (personal observation)
Kaladim 400, -160 Bndainy Everhot Weapon Molds Vendor, upstairs, (player report)
West Freeport -175, -345 Jynsa Smithson Weapon Blade Molds Vendor (player report)
If you make it, please give your smith level and whether trivial or not, also how many success per how many attempts.
Anonymous
Grrr... let me see if I've got this right...
Ogres have to pick up the UNSTACKABLE raw Ore in Neriak (assuming they're not KOS there) and walk all the way back to Oggok with their packs so full of bricks of ore that they can hardly walk, because they can only make sheets and rings in the Oggok forge?
Dose ANY other race have such an impediment?
Ogres have to pick up the UNSTACKABLE raw Ore in Neriak (assuming they're not KOS there) and walk all the way back to Oggok with their packs so full of bricks of ore that they can hardly walk, because they can only make sheets and rings in the Oggok forge?
Dose ANY other race have such an impediment?
Anonymous
The trick is to walk only to the bank and put the full backpacks of ore in the bank. Then head back home, got to bank there and pull out how much ore you want to process at a time.
Anonymous
As a L55 warrior, my bank is FULL of junk. OK, so I don't relaly need most of it, but is this balanced? Do other races have to do this too? Even filling the bank would take almost an entire backpack for each ATTEMPT at a cloak!!! A couple of failures, then it's the long 11 zone treck back for more ore...
Anonymous
I'm at a loss. I have spent all my money I have made through lvl 16 working on smithing. I'm a dark elf enc with 144 int using the SoM. I did bits to 21, studs to 41, tool boxes to 51, and am currently at around 58 doing lanterns. I am broke at the moment unless I can sell me SoM and waste more time doing the quest to retrieve another. How is it there are people running around at lvl 5 making banded, and I even know a smith that's lvl 9 wearing fine plate already. I am totally lost as to how it's done so cheaply. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how it can be raised for less?
Anonymous
I got my heart set into blacksmithing after i saw a 20bard in full dyed teal plate. Its very hard for i have a int of 75 (low) and a wis of 60 (very low) im a very lucky bard i have managed to rack up loads of pp through luck. mostly its the lvl 4 song a corpse locater. Its nice to never have to beg for a port again because you go free ports for life and 20pp for finding his corpse lost at sea. I got stuck at 16 and i am currntly doing this. First i take a boat to eruds crossing sit there kill wisps till i hvae 10 Gls take a trip up to nk trade em in for some quick cash go back and buy ore lots of ore around 1000 peices or how much i can afford but i have to buy water aswell so 1000 is good. I sit there and spend 3 hours turning them into bits then use bits till im out. then i go back over to erud ect....
eruds is the best because right now i can take about 3 wisps at a time and they are worth so much its easy to get enough doe to fund my smithing delight. Also whats good is that i thought ahead and im camping for pelts and silks now before they are so green it will take forever to get them. I think the dyed armor will be the best thing for smiths because i saw one peice going at about 500pp died blue and it was only a 2 sheet peice like helm. Since i spent so long trying to get dark bone braclet for lambent im ready to do something else.
eruds is the best because right now i can take about 3 wisps at a time and they are worth so much its easy to get enough doe to fund my smithing delight. Also whats good is that i thought ahead and im camping for pelts and silks now before they are so green it will take forever to get them. I think the dyed armor will be the best thing for smiths because i saw one peice going at about 500pp died blue and it was only a 2 sheet peice like helm. Since i spent so long trying to get dark bone braclet for lambent im ready to do something else.
I love "twinks". They are my best market for banded, cured silk, raw silk, reinforced armor and even some weapons such as tailor made whips. They don't argue about prices and buy full sets. I have several twinks myself, but they are all special purposes (inventory management and sales, charisma for expensive purchases, and 90% of my energy goes into my main character. The big problem in selling is hauling inventories arround waiting for customers.
There is no "cheap" way to finance smithing, but....! here is a method that may work. My biggest problem as a smith was finding time to sell my banded, wandering zones, talking to players. It was a God send to me when I found a player that I trusted on commission to sell my banded for me. I'd give him a full set, he'd come back, give me my cut (3/4th selling price), he kept a 1/4. After a while he had enough money to by the armor and we dispensed with the record keeping hassle of commission work. In the meantime, he wore the armor he sold, and I could increase the number of items I made, skilling up, increasing my success rates, which has major impact in my profit margins and ability to share profits with a sales person. He also started learnng smithing himself, and was a master of sales by the time he needed that skill.
If you find a a higher level smith/tailor/fletcher that you can work out a similar deal with and trusts you this allows a newbie to break into a market. Also, you can save the smith a lot of traveling by fetching the molds and steel, and he/she can concentrate on production.
Now as to selling markets and pricing, that is a major deal, that varies from server to server a bit, but mainly something you learn. At my clan web site we have trade guides, many of which outline usual price ranges, and best zones to sell in.
The key to selling is to travel from zone to zone, auction when you enter the zone, and perhaps every 15 min. Set up social keys. When selling on commission you are pretty much locked into pricing, and have less leeway than a smith does who is not sharing a profit.
There is no "cheap" way to finance smithing, but....! here is a method that may work. My biggest problem as a smith was finding time to sell my banded, wandering zones, talking to players. It was a God send to me when I found a player that I trusted on commission to sell my banded for me. I'd give him a full set, he'd come back, give me my cut (3/4th selling price), he kept a 1/4. After a while he had enough money to by the armor and we dispensed with the record keeping hassle of commission work. In the meantime, he wore the armor he sold, and I could increase the number of items I made, skilling up, increasing my success rates, which has major impact in my profit margins and ability to share profits with a sales person. He also started learnng smithing himself, and was a master of sales by the time he needed that skill.
If you find a a higher level smith/tailor/fletcher that you can work out a similar deal with and trusts you this allows a newbie to break into a market. Also, you can save the smith a lot of traveling by fetching the molds and steel, and he/she can concentrate on production.
Now as to selling markets and pricing, that is a major deal, that varies from server to server a bit, but mainly something you learn. At my clan web site we have trade guides, many of which outline usual price ranges, and best zones to sell in.
The key to selling is to travel from zone to zone, auction when you enter the zone, and perhaps every 15 min. Set up social keys. When selling on commission you are pretty much locked into pricing, and have less leeway than a smith does who is not sharing a profit.
Anonymous
Its called they have a benifactor (another character funding them.) Most of the time people will make a second character just for trade skills from my experience and fund them with there main character.
Havens Soulblesser
Master smither
34th level Cleric
Havens Soulblesser
Master smither
34th level Cleric
Anonymous
Has any wood elf tried to make mithril armor yet? I am curious if we are also able to -- we now have a Feir'Dal Forge.
Ceylin 40 Druid - Xegony
Ceylin 40 Druid - Xegony
Anonymous
We're only supposed to be able to make some weapons, arrowheads, and parts for leather armours.... now, has anyone tried THOSE yet?
This is second time today someone has alluded to Mithril arrow parts.
Where are the questions coming from? Are there NPC comments? books on vendors that mention this?
Unless someone says specifically why they ask a a question it causes endless rounds of conjecture.
I have a post on the fletching board asking about this also. There are elf paladins with archery and smithing skills so it isn't nonesensical, but it is a far cry from conjecture to following up an ingame clue.
Where are the questions coming from? Are there NPC comments? books on vendors that mention this?
Unless someone says specifically why they ask a a question it causes endless rounds of conjecture.
I have a post on the fletching board asking about this also. There are elf paladins with archery and smithing skills so it isn't nonesensical, but it is a far cry from conjecture to following up an ingame clue.
Anonymous
Posted this to other board on fletching, but when yakati.... whatever the heck his name is (official verant employee in charge of trade skill improvements) answered a question on what various races would be able to make with their cultural forges, his reply contained the tidbit that wood elves would be able to smith mith spears (NOTE: already possible, I've seen stats, and recipes for wood elf forged mith weapons), mith arrowheads, and parts for culturally tailored armour. (ed: presumably studs, boning for mithril studded/reinforced leather armours.)
Since the fletching improvements patch is NOT in, (and last I heard rumoured to be coming after vellious, (a couple months away), I find it unlikely that mith arrowheads are forgeable as yet.
Incidentally, he also posted that wood elves would getting fletching and armour tailoring as thier cultural skills, to which lots of non wood elf rangers protested, and last I heard they're planning on doing both wood elf and ranger cultural fletching. (different recipes and stuff for each).
Since the fletching improvements patch is NOT in, (and last I heard rumoured to be coming after vellious, (a couple months away), I find it unlikely that mith arrowheads are forgeable as yet.
Incidentally, he also posted that wood elves would getting fletching and armour tailoring as thier cultural skills, to which lots of non wood elf rangers protested, and last I heard they're planning on doing both wood elf and ranger cultural fletching. (different recipes and stuff for each).
Anonymous
Has anyone heard anything about when troll racial armor might be available?
Anonymous
How fast can I twink up a blacksmith and make something thats going to sell? What racial armor is going to sell best and what has the easiest ingrediants. I was thinking of a Human, but how easy is it going to be to make up tempers. What suggestions do you offer. I have money available.
Banded armor is easy, and a steady money maker. You sell sets for 100 pp cost to make about 50 to 60 pp once skill 145. Your question is extremely vague.
the difficulty for the new armors (race specific), and fine plate/steel is not cost but scarcity of ingredients.
If you goal is lots of cash, skill up and fight in high level dungeons. What the heck is LOTS of cash anyway? be specific.
At level 15 I was in full crafted from making and selling banded armor. I spent 3 months, one piece at a time getting it. Had lots of fun. ENJOY the game.
Read my document via below web site to get complete picture of all issues involved, and specifics of skill levels and specifics of pp involved to get there, and make stuff. To make banded you will need to invest 300pp, to get to high level stuff, 1000pp or more, which is a lot of money. At one point I considered 5pp unsurmountable hurdle.
the difficulty for the new armors (race specific), and fine plate/steel is not cost but scarcity of ingredients.
If you goal is lots of cash, skill up and fight in high level dungeons. What the heck is LOTS of cash anyway? be specific.
At level 15 I was in full crafted from making and selling banded armor. I spent 3 months, one piece at a time getting it. Had lots of fun. ENJOY the game.
Read my document via below web site to get complete picture of all issues involved, and specifics of skill levels and specifics of pp involved to get there, and make stuff. To make banded you will need to invest 300pp, to get to high level stuff, 1000pp or more, which is a lot of money. At one point I considered 5pp unsurmountable hurdle.
Anonymous
Im not interested in banded profits. I may try and sell normal plate, although it only seems to be bought because of color by a limited number of people. I want to start a new character, so I want to know what race is going to make profits because of race? and which race has easy tempers to gather materials for. Quick estimate on cost snd time to skip past banded (and plate) also appreciated?
Anonymous
because skilling slows *significantly* between 130-150, your talking at least a few weeks of dedicated (multiple hours a day) smithing. To advance to skill level needed to make racial reliably you will have to make plate, and thats going to require farming lots of spiderlings and pelts for backings (which will require decent tailoring to combine with low failure). Its going to cost you well over 1000pp and to tell you the truth, its still unknow as to how much of a market there is going to be for racial armor. The stats just arent that great. The new stuff seems to have been added for fun, fashion and diversity, not stats and profit. All of the racial tempers have at least one scarce ingredient .. iksars are probably the easiest though.
Anonymous
How can u say it will cost 1000 plat - the MQ ore costs 7 plat at the cheapest and it takes 3 to make 1 sheet - your talking 30 plat for 1 sheet items, 50 for 2, and 70 for 3, and fail rate is very high on the 3s at 175 skill. Then when u can buy brz (exp bp is 15 ac and cant sell for more than 15 plat with lots of work (veeshan) then u get 17 ac for 150 (thats if ur lucky and can make 50%) i dont see it being easy to sell and the stuff i can make noone ever wants to buy
The amount of time required to get the pelts is ridiculous also - kill 3o things to get 1 pelt - took me 8 hours to get 26 backings then i spend 1500 to make 11 of 12 1 sheets 7 of 10 2 sheets and failed 4 of 4 on the 3 sheets for exactly 1 gain. Horrid investment of time (lost 320 on the 3 sheets and no chance of recovery) bt i do admit my char looks much better now than in banded or bronze.
The amount of time required to get the pelts is ridiculous also - kill 3o things to get 1 pelt - took me 8 hours to get 26 backings then i spend 1500 to make 11 of 12 1 sheets 7 of 10 2 sheets and failed 4 of 4 on the 3 sheets for exactly 1 gain. Horrid investment of time (lost 320 on the 3 sheets and no chance of recovery) bt i do admit my char looks much better now than in banded or bronze.
Anonymous
From my experience, it took me about 4-5days(practicing only smithing 8-9 hours a day) and about 2000pp to become skill of 175. Of course no FS armor, only practiced banded. If you have a lot of patience (regarding like sore fingers) and time and some money, its possible to become master smithes in a week! But after 175.....hehe good luck..
Anonymous
You guys are spending way too much money. I am a human cleric smithing. I have a 150 wisdome and have yet to sell any of my makings to players infact i have given away 3 full sets of banded to beginners. Just because i am that type of guys. But after doing so i have only been smithing 2 weeks or so allday on sundays and a few hours a day here or there. I have only spent about 1200pp but that is selling my equip back to vendors and giving away 3 sets of banded and i am at skill 170 currently. Maybe it is my success rate at which i am makeing stuff i dont know out of 13 banded cloaks at 168 i was only failing once to twice on average and now i only fail once on sets of 13 because that is all i can carry equip for.
Havens Soulblesser
Master Smither
Havens Soulblesser
Master Smither
Anonymous
cost of smithing depends on player charisma and failure rates (str, wisdom/intell factors)
And most importantly, and never ever defined:
cost to get to what point. It is one thing to get to skill 100 in any trade, at which points costs escalate tremendously per level.
Also there are many many routes to skilling up, some fast and expensive, some slow and profitable.
for example, I have a high charisma high intelligence enchanter that makes jewelry. It cost well under 1000 pp to get to to skill level 100, the often quoted figure to "master Jewelry".
I sold all products back to vendors, did make some costly choices that could have saved 100pp otherwise.
Working with gold, going from skill level 111 to 121 in jewelry I spent over 700pp selling back to venders. With the new level of armor making in smithing, we are going to see similar costs especially if people focus on "skilling up" when they should just be doing what you are doing, having fun, and making armor for others, either resale for profit, at cost, or gifts.
And most importantly, and never ever defined:
cost to get to what point. It is one thing to get to skill 100 in any trade, at which points costs escalate tremendously per level.
Also there are many many routes to skilling up, some fast and expensive, some slow and profitable.
for example, I have a high charisma high intelligence enchanter that makes jewelry. It cost well under 1000 pp to get to to skill level 100, the often quoted figure to "master Jewelry".
I sold all products back to vendors, did make some costly choices that could have saved 100pp otherwise.
Working with gold, going from skill level 111 to 121 in jewelry I spent over 700pp selling back to venders. With the new level of armor making in smithing, we are going to see similar costs especially if people focus on "skilling up" when they should just be doing what you are doing, having fun, and making armor for others, either resale for profit, at cost, or gifts.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
What are the best webpages to go to other then this one for smithing information?
Best web page depends on what you need. Some people want one page on one specific topic.
visit each one Allakhazam links to, then visit mine below and let me know. Mine is from 10 months personal experience smithing and traveling, info from all the web sources that allakhazam give, and info from 4 different bulletin boards. It is carefully organized...
appetite wet?
visit each one Allakhazam links to, then visit mine below and let me know. Mine is from 10 months personal experience smithing and traveling, info from all the web sources that allakhazam give, and info from 4 different bulletin boards. It is carefully organized...
appetite wet?
Anonymous
What a great site! You sure put a lot of work in it:) Can I ask a question? I am confused on the two forges for humans. One is in Qeynos, and one in Freeport. Can any human paladin use either forge for the race only armor?
Thanks
Shugga
Thanks
Shugga
Anonymous
Fantastic Smithing guide! All of my questions were answered!
Shaw
Shaw
Anonymous
How do I carry all that weight of ore if I cant port? Any cheap hints.
depends where you are. I smith in qeynos, I made an erudite enchanter with high charisma, can gate from level one. got it bound in qeynos (get bound right by forge, or bank),
buy the stuff, then gate to where your smith smiths, then walk back to erudin. Two back packs full of small bricks of ore render my barbarian completely immobile. Utterly. Sometimes a sow lets you move a bit. If you blow it bad and get truly stuck, just sell it back to vendor at loss, or offload to a friend, or sometimes a sow, or strength buffs will let you crawl.
All the weight reducing packs are either too trivial to have an effect, or dangerous, you lose all if you go linkdead, for the 100% weight reducers.
Also, just buy what you can use, crawl to forge, and convert to lower weight items.
buy the stuff, then gate to where your smith smiths, then walk back to erudin. Two back packs full of small bricks of ore render my barbarian completely immobile. Utterly. Sometimes a sow lets you move a bit. If you blow it bad and get truly stuck, just sell it back to vendor at loss, or offload to a friend, or sometimes a sow, or strength buffs will let you crawl.
All the weight reducing packs are either too trivial to have an effect, or dangerous, you lose all if you go linkdead, for the 100% weight reducers.
Also, just buy what you can use, crawl to forge, and convert to lower weight items.
Anonymous
How do you make Smithy Hammers? I am fed up with paying 12pp per stupid mistake.
I've been asking that question a long time.
Here are my notes of what I know.
CAN A SMITHY HAMMER BE FORGED? This reported recipe gives a “wrong ingredients” message when made in regular forge:
smithy hammer: block ore (10pp), water.) wt 18
perhaps this if for race specific. This was published with no source info on this board, and no one has ever posted since. I consider it erroneous. I keep getting tempted to try again.
Best thing is to quit putting the wrong stuff into the wrong forge.
IF you are still tempted, here are ore recipes:
Block of ore: 3 large bricks of ore, water (cost to make 5pp) trivial below 157, wt 25
Large brick ore 1575-1975c wt 25.4 (Erudin, HH Keep, North Freeport at Groflah’s) East Cabilis -535, 20 Smithy Xzatik Ore Vendor
Recipe for Large Brick ore: 3 small bricks of ore (525c), water (cost to make 1948c) small bricks ore are sold by basic ore vendors in Erudin, North Freeport, HighHold Keep.
Here are my notes of what I know.
CAN A SMITHY HAMMER BE FORGED? This reported recipe gives a “wrong ingredients” message when made in regular forge:
smithy hammer: block ore (10pp), water.) wt 18
perhaps this if for race specific. This was published with no source info on this board, and no one has ever posted since. I consider it erroneous. I keep getting tempted to try again.
Best thing is to quit putting the wrong stuff into the wrong forge.
IF you are still tempted, here are ore recipes:
Block of ore: 3 large bricks of ore, water (cost to make 5pp) trivial below 157, wt 25
Large brick ore 1575-1975c wt 25.4 (Erudin, HH Keep, North Freeport at Groflah’s) East Cabilis -535, 20 Smithy Xzatik Ore Vendor
Recipe for Large Brick ore: 3 small bricks of ore (525c), water (cost to make 1948c) small bricks ore are sold by basic ore vendors in Erudin, North Freeport, HighHold Keep.
Anonymous
Can someone tell me about the experiences with Mithril armor. What the skill levels are that are needed. I am also interested in making some weapons. Is there only one special mithril weapon and shield as a High Elf.
This is a LONG post, copied from my clan web site. It is 90% second hand info and like all compilations undoubtably is rife with errors. I've spotted many already and corrected them. most from links allakhazam gives on racial armor, pay attention as you sign on, the link prior to the main blacksmith web links. I've added a lot to it from others posts, looking up weapon stats, and inferences made from other racial armor, with the goal of all info in one place to make the stuff. PLEASE give me feedback and corrections.
Ore supplies
Mithril plate
Chain mail armor
Shield recipes all given below.
HIGH ELF
The following recipes must be combined by a High Elf in the Kolida Dal Forge: Felwithe, inside Emerald Armor.
Moonlight Temper: Probable recipe: Morning dew, vials of swirling mists, 2 essence of moonlight combined in brew barrel by brewer of skill >135 or you lose the very difficult to find components. Mistressa Dominatria implies this is correct recipe.
(bad recipe: Morning Dew (foraged in Lesser Feydark), swirling mists of dusk (air elementals), 2 essence of shadows, combine in brew barrel. On a bulletin board it is posted: “I tried one Morning Dew, one Swirling Mist, 2 Essences of Shadow, and it didn't work.” He wonders if essence of moonlight needed (but has never seen it dropped anywhere.)
One player comments: The Vial of Mists, should be the next step on the Enchanter's Clarify Mana series. Not sure if this has anything to do with Moonlight temper. Probably nothing.
Essence of Moonlight: drops off Vampires in Mistmoore. It will NOT drop off the Dark Elf forms. "I have managed to get 6 of these so far" Mistressa Dominatria reports.
Morning Dew: buy from the foraging classes in Greater Faydark and Lower Faydark.
Vial of mists: enchanter clarify mana series? Drop from steam elemental in steamfont, mist elementals in Najena. Mistressa Dominatria reports.
Swirling mist: enchanter clarify mana series?
Essence of shadows: dropped by shadowed men
Elven Smithing Hammer: 18.5pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Small brick of mithril: 6.2pp from Tanalin, mithril ore and chainmail pattern vendor in Felwith, 120, -420
Large brick of Mithril: 18.6pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Block of Mithril: Large brick of mithril, morning dew. Cost to make 56pp
Mithril Sheet: 12.3pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin
Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Folded sheet of Mithril: block of mithril, morning dew, Elven smithy hammer. Cost to make 66pp
Mithril ring: morning dew, small brick of mithril, file. Cost to make 6.3pp May need large brick mithril if dwarven pattern followed, which had same error.
Mithril chain jointing: mithril ring, file, elven smithy hammer, morning dew, cost to make 6.5pp
Enchanted Mithril ring: Morning dew (foraged),
Small brick of Mithril 7pp, File 2g. Cost to make 7pp (suspect correct recipe is large brick enchanted Mithril.)
Note on enchanting Mithril: The recipe above does not specify enchanted Mithril, but that may be assumed. the spell enchant mithril calls for a blue diamond, anyone know if this is purchased or dropped, and where? Sebilis, and plane of hate is reported. You can buy blue diamond in FV for about 210pp. The diamond is consumed when it is enchanted. If recipe is bad, may want to compare to specific notes on enchanted Berrylium armor which has been verified. May need large brick of enchanted mithril if pattern followed.
MITHRIL CHAINMAIL
Chainmail patterns: Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor, North Qeynos Connie Link, outside of Ironforge Estates.
Mistressa Dominatria reports that she made
Mithril Chain Pants. AC 7 and wearable by all casters...including Druids...just not DE's. I have failed twice at smith skill of 176
Enchanted Mithril Chain Bracelet = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Bracelet Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Cape = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Cape Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Coif = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Coif Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Gloves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Leggings = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Leggings Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Mantle = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Mantle Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Neckguard = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Neckguard Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Skirt = Elven Smithy
Hammer + Chainmail Skirt Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Sleeves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Sleeves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Tunic = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Tunic + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Veil = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Veil Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Bracelet = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Bracelet Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Cape = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Cape Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Coif = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Coif Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Gloves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Leggings = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Leggings Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Mantle = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Mantle Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Neckguard = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Neckguard Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Skirt = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Skirt Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Sleeves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Sleeves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Tunic = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Tunic + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Veil = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Veil Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Mithril Ring
MITHRIL PLATE:
Mithril Plate Boots = Plate Boots Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Bracer = Plate Bracer Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 1 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Breastplate = Plate Breastplate Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 3 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Collar = Plate Collar Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 1 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Cloak = Plate Cloak Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 3 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Gauntlets = Plate Gauntlets Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Girdles = Plate Girdles Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Greaves = Plate Greaves Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 3 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Helm = Plate Helm Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Medium Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Pauldron = Plate Pauldron Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Vambraces = Plate Vambraces Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Visor = Plate Visor Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 1 Folded Mithril Sheet
SHIELDS:
Woodlander Shield = Kite Shield Mold + 2 Sheets of Mithrel + Elven Smithy Hammer + Moonlight Temper
Enchanted Woodlander Shield = Kite Shield Mold + 2 Sheets of Mithrel + Elven Smithy Hammer + Moonlight Temper + Imbued Emerald
Koala'Dal Falchion Curved Blade Mold, Hilt Mold, Pommel Mold, Morning Dew, Folded Sheet of Mithril Cost 71pp
Enchanted Koala'Dal Falchion , same as above, add imbued imerald, and moonlight temper. Cost 85pp
Ore supplies
Mithril plate
Chain mail armor
Shield recipes all given below.
HIGH ELF
The following recipes must be combined by a High Elf in the Kolida Dal Forge: Felwithe, inside Emerald Armor.
Moonlight Temper: Probable recipe: Morning dew, vials of swirling mists, 2 essence of moonlight combined in brew barrel by brewer of skill >135 or you lose the very difficult to find components. Mistressa Dominatria implies this is correct recipe.
(bad recipe: Morning Dew (foraged in Lesser Feydark), swirling mists of dusk (air elementals), 2 essence of shadows, combine in brew barrel. On a bulletin board it is posted: “I tried one Morning Dew, one Swirling Mist, 2 Essences of Shadow, and it didn't work.” He wonders if essence of moonlight needed (but has never seen it dropped anywhere.)
One player comments: The Vial of Mists, should be the next step on the Enchanter's Clarify Mana series. Not sure if this has anything to do with Moonlight temper. Probably nothing.
Essence of Moonlight: drops off Vampires in Mistmoore. It will NOT drop off the Dark Elf forms. "I have managed to get 6 of these so far" Mistressa Dominatria reports.
Morning Dew: buy from the foraging classes in Greater Faydark and Lower Faydark.
Vial of mists: enchanter clarify mana series? Drop from steam elemental in steamfont, mist elementals in Najena. Mistressa Dominatria reports.
Swirling mist: enchanter clarify mana series?
Essence of shadows: dropped by shadowed men
Elven Smithing Hammer: 18.5pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Small brick of mithril: 6.2pp from Tanalin, mithril ore and chainmail pattern vendor in Felwith, 120, -420
Large brick of Mithril: 18.6pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Block of Mithril: Large brick of mithril, morning dew. Cost to make 56pp
Mithril Sheet: 12.3pp Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin
Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Folded sheet of Mithril: block of mithril, morning dew, Elven smithy hammer. Cost to make 66pp
Mithril ring: morning dew, small brick of mithril, file. Cost to make 6.3pp May need large brick mithril if dwarven pattern followed, which had same error.
Mithril chain jointing: mithril ring, file, elven smithy hammer, morning dew, cost to make 6.5pp
Enchanted Mithril ring: Morning dew (foraged),
Small brick of Mithril 7pp, File 2g. Cost to make 7pp (suspect correct recipe is large brick enchanted Mithril.)
Note on enchanting Mithril: The recipe above does not specify enchanted Mithril, but that may be assumed. the spell enchant mithril calls for a blue diamond, anyone know if this is purchased or dropped, and where? Sebilis, and plane of hate is reported. You can buy blue diamond in FV for about 210pp. The diamond is consumed when it is enchanted. If recipe is bad, may want to compare to specific notes on enchanted Berrylium armor which has been verified. May need large brick of enchanted mithril if pattern followed.
MITHRIL CHAINMAIL
Chainmail patterns: Felwithe 120, -420 Tanalin Silverkale Mithril Ore and Chainmail Pattern Vendor, North Qeynos Connie Link, outside of Ironforge Estates.
Mistressa Dominatria reports that she made
Mithril Chain Pants. AC 7 and wearable by all casters...including Druids...just not DE's. I have failed twice at smith skill of 176
Enchanted Mithril Chain Bracelet = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Bracelet Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Cape = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Cape Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Coif = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Coif Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Gloves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Leggings = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Leggings Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Mantle = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Mantle Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Neckguard = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Neckguard Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Skirt = Elven Smithy
Hammer + Chainmail Skirt Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Sleeves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Sleeves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Tunic = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Tunic + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Enchanted Mithril Chain Veil = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Veil Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Enchanted Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Bracelet = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Bracelet Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Cape = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Cape Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Coif = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Coif Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Gloves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Leggings = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Leggings Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Mantle = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Mantle Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Neckguard = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Neckguard Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Skirt = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Skirt Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Sleeves = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Sleeves Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 2 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Tunic = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Gloves Tunic + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 3 Mithril Ring
Mithril Chain Veil = Elven Smithy Hammer + Chainmail Veil Pattern + Silk Swatch + Moonlight Temper + 1 Mithril Ring
MITHRIL PLATE:
Mithril Plate Boots = Plate Boots Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Bracer = Plate Bracer Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 1 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Breastplate = Plate Breastplate Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 3 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Collar = Plate Collar Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 1 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Cloak = Plate Cloak Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 3 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Gauntlets = Plate Gauntlets Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Girdles = Plate Girdles Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Greaves = Plate Greaves Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 3 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Helm = Plate Helm Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Medium Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Pauldron = Plate Pauldron Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Vambraces = Plate Vambraces Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 2 Folded Mithril Sheet
Mithril Plate Visor = Plate Visor Mold + Moonlight Temper + Mithril Chain Jointing + Elven Smithy Hammer + Leather Backing + 1 Folded Mithril Sheet
SHIELDS:
Woodlander Shield = Kite Shield Mold + 2 Sheets of Mithrel + Elven Smithy Hammer + Moonlight Temper
Enchanted Woodlander Shield = Kite Shield Mold + 2 Sheets of Mithrel + Elven Smithy Hammer + Moonlight Temper + Imbued Emerald
Koala'Dal Falchion Curved Blade Mold, Hilt Mold, Pommel Mold, Morning Dew, Folded Sheet of Mithril Cost 71pp
Enchanted Koala'Dal Falchion , same as above, add imbued imerald, and moonlight temper. Cost 85pp
Anonymous
Thats a long read, lot of good information but not a lot on my question. Good Going by mistress there. Original Question:-
Can someone tell me about their experiences with Mithril armor. What the skill levels are that are needed? I am also interested in making some weapons. Is there only one special mithril weapon and shield as a High Elf?
Can someone tell me about their experiences with Mithril armor. What the skill levels are that are needed? I am also interested in making some weapons. Is there only one special mithril weapon and shield as a High Elf?
Anonymous
YAY! I have just finished making FS armor colored with blue! ahh.... it took me 24 hours in 3 days!I was asked to make them and I was excited to... never made full set before. Now I know how hard it is. Definately you need a lot of patience to complete. My neck is stiff from being scared of fizzling.. But I am very happy :) I like to express all the people in Forum helped me when i have problem. Especially Knarmon! Yeah you! thanks!
Thank you.
Please tell me if I need to make any corrections. I'm stashing up on stacks of leather backing before tripping over to High Hold from Halas to make the folded sheets.
I'm interested in particular how many combine you did in all, which items you attempted, and what success rates are. I plan on making about 20 attempts on one sheet items (bracers, collars, visors) and see how it goes, if I have lots of successes by 10 combines, will move on to two sheet stuff. At this point I value record keeping very highly, data like this will save all of us lots of wasted combines. I suspect each item has its own trivial levels.
I might just go for one item at a time until successfull for that item, and that way will end up with trivial levels for each item eventually. It sure would be nice to have some clues ahead of time. One clue is that these face, neck, bracers are all trivial at 181. Usually (not always) when someone reports a specific number like that, it is on basis of experience, but I've been burned so often, unless I see it spelled out as a personal observation I don't trust it.
Please tell me if I need to make any corrections. I'm stashing up on stacks of leather backing before tripping over to High Hold from Halas to make the folded sheets.
I'm interested in particular how many combine you did in all, which items you attempted, and what success rates are. I plan on making about 20 attempts on one sheet items (bracers, collars, visors) and see how it goes, if I have lots of successes by 10 combines, will move on to two sheet stuff. At this point I value record keeping very highly, data like this will save all of us lots of wasted combines. I suspect each item has its own trivial levels.
I might just go for one item at a time until successfull for that item, and that way will end up with trivial levels for each item eventually. It sure would be nice to have some clues ahead of time. One clue is that these face, neck, bracers are all trivial at 181. Usually (not always) when someone reports a specific number like that, it is on basis of experience, but I've been burned so often, unless I see it spelled out as a personal observation I don't trust it.
Anonymous
I'm not the one posted above but I can answer your question.
At 175 skill my success was about 90 percent on the one sheet items.
I haven't tried 2 sheet items in mass quantity but my success rate seems about 50 percent on them.
wis:185
str:110
At 175 skill my success was about 90 percent on the one sheet items.
I haven't tried 2 sheet items in mass quantity but my success rate seems about 50 percent on them.
wis:185
str:110
Anonymous
When i was making Large FS armor, my wisdom was 126. I made 1sheet stuff, bracers, visor, collor.. no problem. then i tried 2sheets- belt, Vambraces, Helm, guantlets, and 3sheet-BP....those all fizzled in a row! (my skill is 175). then i borrowed wisdom items buffed up like 187 wis, I never fizzled any of them after that, except one, cloak. hmm i should have known better before fizzling losing about 510pp!
Anonymous
How much did you sell it for and how much did it cost?
Anonymous
I charged 2.5k. 1281pp was all the cost it took to make them in cluding 510pp of fizzle. good profit? hehe maybe... but All those time it took to camp Crystals, going back and forth FP to SF for ore...hunting for pelts and spider silk... It's a very fair price for me. Yet I am happy and satisfied for my beautiful armor! I need rest now....zzz
Anonymous
I've just started working on Fine Steel Plate. I've not found a source for Med Folded Metal Sheets, so I went looking for information on how to make them. According to what I read in various places, it's a Block of MQ Ore, some Water, and the Smithy Hammer to make Folded Sheets. To make a Block, I need 3 Large Bricks of MQ Ore and Water.
The nearest source of Med Quality Ore appears to be Steamfont. So, I went to Kaladim, bought my Dwarven Smithy Hammer (11+ Plat). Then I went to Steamfont and bought 3 Large Bricks of MQ Ore (9+ Plat each).
I went into Ak'Anon and found their Forge (NOT their Gnome Forge; the standard one). Into the Forge went the 3 Large Bricks and a flask of water. Pressed COMBINE, and out came a Block of MQ Ore.
Then, I put in the Block of MQ Ore, my Dwarven Smithy Hammer, and another flask of water (NOT a Pod, a Flask; I don't have any summoned water). I hit COMBINE and lost everything. 40 Plat shot to hell.
What did I do wrong?
The nearest source of Med Quality Ore appears to be Steamfont. So, I went to Kaladim, bought my Dwarven Smithy Hammer (11+ Plat). Then I went to Steamfont and bought 3 Large Bricks of MQ Ore (9+ Plat each).
I went into Ak'Anon and found their Forge (NOT their Gnome Forge; the standard one). Into the Forge went the 3 Large Bricks and a flask of water. Pressed COMBINE, and out came a Block of MQ Ore.
Then, I put in the Block of MQ Ore, my Dwarven Smithy Hammer, and another flask of water (NOT a Pod, a Flask; I don't have any summoned water). I hit COMBINE and lost everything. 40 Plat shot to hell.
What did I do wrong?
Use a REGULAR smithy hammer. A dwarven smithy hammer is for a Dwarf only, in the Stormguard Forge: (Kaladim, S. Kaladim, outside Redfists Metal. (water is not needed in any dwarf recipes)
As a review:
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer, use regular forge, trivial below 127, one player reporting 6 successes on 8 tries (Roxx). Cost 21pp to high charisma player, 29pp to low charisma player.
Medium quality block of ore: 3 medium quality large bricks of ore, water.
Medium quality large bricks of ore: vendor in High Hold Keep near bank. High charisma player is 7pp, low charisma 9p6g is reported.
As a review:
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer, use regular forge, trivial below 127, one player reporting 6 successes on 8 tries (Roxx). Cost 21pp to high charisma player, 29pp to low charisma player.
Medium quality block of ore: 3 medium quality large bricks of ore, water.
Medium quality large bricks of ore: vendor in High Hold Keep near bank. High charisma player is 7pp, low charisma 9p6g is reported.
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