Blacksmithing
Blacksmiths have the ability to forge their own armor and weapons both for personal use and for sale to others.
What are the best strategies for developing and using the blacksmithing skill? What items are the most and least useful ones to forge? Which classes are best suited to take up this trade? Can you make a profit off of blacksmithing, and if so how? Which cities are the best places to practice your trade?
Post your strategies on how to best use and develop the blacksmithing skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
Anonymous
anyone know what componints it takes to make Yellow armor?
Anonymous
i have heard that there IS yellow dye component. Is it crystallized sulpher?? i bought some off a merchant and am going to try it out. Also... i got an iron oxide of a FIRE ELEMENTAL in Najena... Camped Najena elementals for 6 hrs 2 days and got 2 dye components and anout 15 temper components (drops of mercury and swirling mists). Never saw one charcoal, but it was reported that lava rock did drop very very rarely off the fire elementals there. I still cannot solo freaking blazing elementals, however i found a sweet spot to camp them one i can.. I will report.
Anders Sacrifizen (level 38)
smithing 177 (the Tribunal)
Anders Sacrifizen (level 38)
smithing 177 (the Tribunal)
Dang, I thought I had the answer. I've seen pics of yellow armor. Since I already copied this from my notes, I include all my data from various sources on how to dye. Apparently no one has posted on yellow. closest would be orange I guess, from jackolantern fungus. Verant has been playing with tints and changing things, at least initially. One player reported 15 different cclors in his possession but gave zero info beyond that. Seems quite a stretch to believe a claim like that, perhaps he was counting the 3 different shades for each color.
Here are my notes:
Dying fine plate/steel armor:
This is OPTIONAL (thanks to Rooke Bonemender and Gorlim Shinbane of test server for initial information on dyes) Making dyes is a shaman and rogue only skill. You will need a high level (35+?) rogue or shaman who also has a skill of 52 in alchemy.
Buying needed components for dying fine plate/steel armor:
Resin: Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill, On vendor near bank in High Hold Keep. Stacks, 5250-7257c
Jar of Laquer: Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill, On vendor near bank in High Hold Keep. Does not stack, 105-145c
Jar of Acid: on vender near bank in High Hold Keep. 105-145c, does not stack
Empty vial: stacks, 210-290c
How to Dye & Stain (book): On vendor near bank in High Hold Keep. 105-145c
Dye component locations (dropped items): If you buy out vendor inventories in zones where these items drop you will likely find the needed components faster than hunting them. Auction for them, enlist the aid of your friends. Everyone with first hand experience reports these are rare drops.
Permafrost Crystals: blue verified by Hallkin, in Everfrost from ice goblins, a player reports 1 in 25-30 ice goblins. On the Shaman Disease and Poison Merchant in Overthere (probably left by a player?).
Evergreen Leaves: green verified by Hallkin, spawn on ground in greater Feydark, looks like little green chip, not foraged. One player reports searching for an hour for each one found. Potion Seller in Kelethin and in Overthere.
Sarcoscypha Fungus: red: verified by Hallkin, Fungus men in Innothule, drops in Unrest, Evil Shaman Herb seller in Innothule? and in Firona Vie. Reported: spawns on the groud in Faires camp in Lesser FD.
Pink is light pink now (3 resin, sarcoscypha fungus), not neon pink.
Russet Oxide: red, earth elementals in Najena, merchant by the Hole that sells Medium Quality Ore, and Fironia Vie (broken recipe?).
Jack o'Lantern Fungus: orange, scarecrows in west Karana, Dwarven Poison Merchant in Dagnor's Cauldron and Overthere. Reported that spawns on the groud in Faires camp in LesserFD.
Iron Oxide: brown, earth elementals in Najena, Steamfont, Gypsy Camp in Rathe Mountains and Overthere. (broken recipe?)
Drakn reports a few 30 kills of fire elementals of Najena. Tepxal reports from Stone and Iron Guardians in Nektolus Forest. Steam elementals in streamfont.
Charcoal: black, Mist elementals in East Commonlands in sandy areas, use see invisible to find, Gypsy Camp in Lavastorm and Overthere, earth elementals in steamfont, Najena. Clan brother, Tepxal, looted from Stone and Iron Guardians in Nektolus Forest. Drakn reports: East Commons none on several dozen kills of Air Elementals, Lavastorm Fire Elementals none on 30 kills, in spite of others reporting finding charcol on them. Seagul reports steam (elementals?) in steamfont by first hand observation. He reports 3 to 20 hours of hunting elementals yields only a few charcoals.
Misc info on Dye components and potential dye components:
Hornet pollen: Valius reports hornet pollen from BW looks like the other dyes, but does not work.
Accursed Paint: a dropped item sold by vendor in West Karanas (east end of zone) for 518c. Not known if dye component or not.
Blue fungus: Sorcha Stormseeker reports: I have found Blue Slumber Fungus in the Fairy Camp along with other Dye Components. Untried potential dye component.
Hallkin reports: There is a problem with making dark colors as the dark blue BP i saw looked grey and have heard the dark
red looked brown/purplish.
Gzar Zig Dog reports: I used dark blue dye (1 resin). Although when the armor was put on it looked almost light blue/gray. Was expecting it to look like lambent armor.
A player reports: curently has 15+ drops of different colors. Prices on veeshan run 5-40pp per color. He observes: remember the newbie you con today won’t sell you his stash tomorrow.
Sequence for making dyed armor:
Potter's Phase (this is trivial at pottery skill level 31)
1) Unfinished Medium Clay Jar: Block of Clay, Water, Medium Jar Sketch, combine on a Potter's Wheel. This is an item, fits inside other containers.
2) Finished Medium Clay Jar: Fire the Jar with a High Quality Firing Sheet, in a Kiln. This is a four slot container with a Combine button. Used in step 4.
Alchemist's/Poisoner's Phase (shaman/rogue only skills, I recall they need to be level 34 to even begin learning these skills)
3) Make dye extract: water, empty vial, dye components (see above for list). Empty Vial: you can buy these from vendor at High Hold Keep, the second mill in steamfont. Empty Vials are not the same as the pottery vials. They are stackable Each of the 6 components makes a unique color, that in later steps you combine with resin to affect darkness of color. The alchemist uses a medicine bag to do this.
4) Vial of dye: One dye extract and 1-3 resins (5250-7257c each). The Shaman or Rogue combines in the medium clay jar from Step 2, 1 resin gives dark color, 2 resins = medium color, 3 resins = light color.
Smithing Stage:
5) Make leather backings (tailor/sewing kit), make medium quality folded sheets of metal (regular forge, smith), make finished piece of armor (regular forge, smith).
6) Colored Plate: Finished piece of fine plate/steel armor, vial of dye (step 4 above), lacquer, jar of acid. Combine in regular forge. Gzar reports trivial below smith skill level 175, another anom player says that failure due to lack of skill returns undyed armor. Gzar had one failure on more than 26 (?) attempts at 176 smith skill.
Here are my notes:
Dying fine plate/steel armor:
This is OPTIONAL (thanks to Rooke Bonemender and Gorlim Shinbane of test server for initial information on dyes) Making dyes is a shaman and rogue only skill. You will need a high level (35+?) rogue or shaman who also has a skill of 52 in alchemy.
Buying needed components for dying fine plate/steel armor:
Resin: Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill, On vendor near bank in High Hold Keep. Stacks, 5250-7257c
Jar of Laquer: Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill, On vendor near bank in High Hold Keep. Does not stack, 105-145c
Jar of Acid: on vender near bank in High Hold Keep. 105-145c, does not stack
Empty vial: stacks, 210-290c
How to Dye & Stain (book): On vendor near bank in High Hold Keep. 105-145c
Dye component locations (dropped items): If you buy out vendor inventories in zones where these items drop you will likely find the needed components faster than hunting them. Auction for them, enlist the aid of your friends. Everyone with first hand experience reports these are rare drops.
Permafrost Crystals: blue verified by Hallkin, in Everfrost from ice goblins, a player reports 1 in 25-30 ice goblins. On the Shaman Disease and Poison Merchant in Overthere (probably left by a player?).
Evergreen Leaves: green verified by Hallkin, spawn on ground in greater Feydark, looks like little green chip, not foraged. One player reports searching for an hour for each one found. Potion Seller in Kelethin and in Overthere.
Sarcoscypha Fungus: red: verified by Hallkin, Fungus men in Innothule, drops in Unrest, Evil Shaman Herb seller in Innothule? and in Firona Vie. Reported: spawns on the groud in Faires camp in Lesser FD.
Pink is light pink now (3 resin, sarcoscypha fungus), not neon pink.
Russet Oxide: red, earth elementals in Najena, merchant by the Hole that sells Medium Quality Ore, and Fironia Vie (broken recipe?).
Jack o'Lantern Fungus: orange, scarecrows in west Karana, Dwarven Poison Merchant in Dagnor's Cauldron and Overthere. Reported that spawns on the groud in Faires camp in LesserFD.
Iron Oxide: brown, earth elementals in Najena, Steamfont, Gypsy Camp in Rathe Mountains and Overthere. (broken recipe?)
Drakn reports a few 30 kills of fire elementals of Najena. Tepxal reports from Stone and Iron Guardians in Nektolus Forest. Steam elementals in streamfont.
Charcoal: black, Mist elementals in East Commonlands in sandy areas, use see invisible to find, Gypsy Camp in Lavastorm and Overthere, earth elementals in steamfont, Najena. Clan brother, Tepxal, looted from Stone and Iron Guardians in Nektolus Forest. Drakn reports: East Commons none on several dozen kills of Air Elementals, Lavastorm Fire Elementals none on 30 kills, in spite of others reporting finding charcol on them. Seagul reports steam (elementals?) in steamfont by first hand observation. He reports 3 to 20 hours of hunting elementals yields only a few charcoals.
Misc info on Dye components and potential dye components:
Hornet pollen: Valius reports hornet pollen from BW looks like the other dyes, but does not work.
Accursed Paint: a dropped item sold by vendor in West Karanas (east end of zone) for 518c. Not known if dye component or not.
Blue fungus: Sorcha Stormseeker reports: I have found Blue Slumber Fungus in the Fairy Camp along with other Dye Components. Untried potential dye component.
Hallkin reports: There is a problem with making dark colors as the dark blue BP i saw looked grey and have heard the dark
red looked brown/purplish.
Gzar Zig Dog reports: I used dark blue dye (1 resin). Although when the armor was put on it looked almost light blue/gray. Was expecting it to look like lambent armor.
A player reports: curently has 15+ drops of different colors. Prices on veeshan run 5-40pp per color. He observes: remember the newbie you con today won’t sell you his stash tomorrow.
Sequence for making dyed armor:
Potter's Phase (this is trivial at pottery skill level 31)
1) Unfinished Medium Clay Jar: Block of Clay, Water, Medium Jar Sketch, combine on a Potter's Wheel. This is an item, fits inside other containers.
2) Finished Medium Clay Jar: Fire the Jar with a High Quality Firing Sheet, in a Kiln. This is a four slot container with a Combine button. Used in step 4.
Alchemist's/Poisoner's Phase (shaman/rogue only skills, I recall they need to be level 34 to even begin learning these skills)
3) Make dye extract: water, empty vial, dye components (see above for list). Empty Vial: you can buy these from vendor at High Hold Keep, the second mill in steamfont. Empty Vials are not the same as the pottery vials. They are stackable Each of the 6 components makes a unique color, that in later steps you combine with resin to affect darkness of color. The alchemist uses a medicine bag to do this.
4) Vial of dye: One dye extract and 1-3 resins (5250-7257c each). The Shaman or Rogue combines in the medium clay jar from Step 2, 1 resin gives dark color, 2 resins = medium color, 3 resins = light color.
Smithing Stage:
5) Make leather backings (tailor/sewing kit), make medium quality folded sheets of metal (regular forge, smith), make finished piece of armor (regular forge, smith).
6) Colored Plate: Finished piece of fine plate/steel armor, vial of dye (step 4 above), lacquer, jar of acid. Combine in regular forge. Gzar reports trivial below smith skill level 175, another anom player says that failure due to lack of skill returns undyed armor. Gzar had one failure on more than 26 (?) attempts at 176 smith skill.
Anonymous
There was a mix up in 2 of the color items, Iron Oxide is for Red and Russet Oxide is Brown, I made a Russet Oxidewith one Resin and it came out a dark Gold, I would assume that maybe 2 or 3 resins might make a yellow. But you know what happens when you assume :)
Anonymous
Check out www.eqtraders.com they have pictures of all the color combinations. I believe the Jack O Latern fungus is they yellow. I made 2 resin yellow pants and boots, turned out almost gold. On Brell give a tell to Maliek or Makia.
Anonymous
Going to have an attempt at forging some Seafarer's tonight and the one thing I really lack is the chainmail patterns indicated in the recipes. Where in Freeport can these patterns be bought, if anywhere? I am pretty sure I saw these for sale in Kelethin, but that seems a long way to go for Human-forged armor.
Thanks in advance,
--Karianna Silverlight.
Ranger of the 50th Season.
Amazonian Sisters, Bertoxxulous.
Thanks in advance,
--Karianna Silverlight.
Ranger of the 50th Season.
Amazonian Sisters, Bertoxxulous.
Anonymous
There is a vendor in Qeynos named Connie Link. She stands outside Ironforge Estates next to the Vendor with Sewing Supplies. She is the only Medium Chainmail vendor that I know of at this time.
Princess Casratia of the Amazonian Sisters
Bertoxulous
Master Smith (178)
Princess Casratia of the Amazonian Sisters
Bertoxulous
Master Smith (178)
Anonymous
I ran into Chainmail patterns in Misty Thicket a while ago i think it was the vendor in the first hut to the left as you leave the tunnel to Rivervale.
this list is all far from freeport. The patterns look like tailoring patterns. I am sure they are in freeport, please post when you find them.
Large Chainmail Patterns:
Halas 365, -290 Lynda McDobbs on second floor of McDaniel’s North Qeynos outside of IronForge estates molds Connie Link.
North Qeynos, Connie Link, outside of Ironforge Estates.
Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Coif 5002c, Veil 1876c, Neck 625c, Tunic 10,003c, Mantle 8153c, cloak 5002c, skirt 2510c, sleeve 5002c, bracelet 2501c, glove 8753c, Pant 8753c, boot 8753c
Chain mail patterns are available in many cities. They are used for unique race specific armors for that city.
Large Chainmail Patterns:
Halas 365, -290 Lynda McDobbs on second floor of McDaniel’s North Qeynos outside of IronForge estates molds Connie Link.
North Qeynos, Connie Link, outside of Ironforge Estates.
Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Coif 5002c, Veil 1876c, Neck 625c, Tunic 10,003c, Mantle 8153c, cloak 5002c, skirt 2510c, sleeve 5002c, bracelet 2501c, glove 8753c, Pant 8753c, boot 8753c
Chain mail patterns are available in many cities. They are used for unique race specific armors for that city.
Anonymous
Has anyone discovered Erudite race armor? I saw that DE necros now have a nice plate availible to them and was curious about similar Erudite armor.
Thanks
Thanks
Anonymous
Well, according to Yak Erudites get tailored silk robes. (erud SK/Pal/Clr use human plate)
Anonymous
Ok A Quick Rundown of Getting to Skill 100
Skill 1-20 Sharpen Rusty Weapons
Buy a backpack full of sharpenning stones (4cp from Steamfont Mountains) and offer to sharpen Newbie Weapons for free
Skill 20-41
Make Toolboxes, Combine two small pieces of ore (6sp each from Steamfont Mountains) with one water flask (1sp each from Everywhere) to make a metal bit. Combine 1 metal bit with 1 water to make a toolbox :)
Skill 41-100
Make Skewer
Make Metal Bits as described above. Combine 1 metal bit with 1 Water and a skewer mold (9sp). Good for up to level 100(ish)
I spent about 60pp Getting to level 75 With my High Elf Paladin (Cha 90, Int 92)
Hope This Helps
Qalana 11th Paladin Drinal Server
RIGHTEOUS FIRE!
Skill 1-20 Sharpen Rusty Weapons
Buy a backpack full of sharpenning stones (4cp from Steamfont Mountains) and offer to sharpen Newbie Weapons for free
Skill 20-41
Make Toolboxes, Combine two small pieces of ore (6sp each from Steamfont Mountains) with one water flask (1sp each from Everywhere) to make a metal bit. Combine 1 metal bit with 1 water to make a toolbox :)
Skill 41-100
Make Skewer
Make Metal Bits as described above. Combine 1 metal bit with 1 Water and a skewer mold (9sp). Good for up to level 100(ish)
I spent about 60pp Getting to level 75 With my High Elf Paladin (Cha 90, Int 92)
Hope This Helps
Qalana 11th Paladin Drinal Server
RIGHTEOUS FIRE!
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you need to start off making metal bits instead of sharpening(it helps for later[and you save money)
On searching the archives if every city in Norath, talking to every wise erudite, all wise wizards, enchanters, magicians. talking to fire hardened barbarians, and dwarves... I finally found the true path. I was sworn to secrecy, but i shall break my vow inspite of great personal risk. the TRUE path to smithing greatness is... is... wait... can't breath...
argghhh...
Note from wife of Knarmon:
I found him slumped over the computer. On return from emergency room, this post was still unfinished. It looks like he may live. He is incoherent, babbling, not making any sense. Sorry, that is all the news... if you are distressed, just imagine me. I never did like him playing this game, and like even less what he wrote above.
argghhh...
Note from wife of Knarmon:
I found him slumped over the computer. On return from emergency room, this post was still unfinished. It looks like he may live. He is incoherent, babbling, not making any sense. Sorry, that is all the news... if you are distressed, just imagine me. I never did like him playing this game, and like even less what he wrote above.
That should keep him quiet...mwahahaha!
Anonymous
For a long time now I have been asking people on my server about how to make weapons, and how to make enchanted weapons. No one knows anything, and since you all are the masters of Smithing, I know you can help me out. So whats the deal?
Hakthur
20th season Warrior
Shattered Knights
Hakthur
20th season Warrior
Shattered Knights
Anonymous
Until the last big patch there were no recipes for enchanted weapons.
Just read the blacksmithing recipes and/or look in equipment guide to read the info on the weapons your interested in.
I personally plan to make a magical weapon but the time it takes to create one versus the existing weapons is just for personal enjoyment. For example I could easily do the langsaxe quest a dozen times in the time it takes me to get the 3 of the 12 ingredients for an Antonion Emerald or Ruby longsword.
Strebor M.
Human Druid-Luclin
Just read the blacksmithing recipes and/or look in equipment guide to read the info on the weapons your interested in.
I personally plan to make a magical weapon but the time it takes to create one versus the existing weapons is just for personal enjoyment. For example I could easily do the langsaxe quest a dozen times in the time it takes me to get the 3 of the 12 ingredients for an Antonion Emerald or Ruby longsword.
Strebor M.
Human Druid-Luclin
Anonymous
Here is my guess. If you are able to get (high enough level) the components to make an enchanted weapon then you probably have a better weapon than you are making. Therefore, why bother? If you are low level and can make this stuff then you are a twink and already have a better weapon. I can make these weapons also but I and all my friends and guildsmates have much better stuff.
My 2cp.
My 2cp.
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The reason I want to make magic weapons is to be able to kill things that are invulnerable to regular stuff. I am not a twink, and since I am a tank, I need magic weapons to kill mobs all over the world. But thanks for the accusation, and remember just because you dont want to do somthing doesnt mean others dont also.
Anonymous
Awfully thin skin for a tank. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. However to clarify: It is very easy and cheap to get a magic weapon BEFORE you would be able to gather the supplies and get the skill to enchant your own weapons. Since you are a tank and can't enchant your own weapons you can't make them anyway. Therefore you are back to buying them. You want a magic weapon? Here are some good cheap ones: Langseax (20-30pp), BBC (50pp), SBH (50-60). And an Axe of Iron Back is a great weapon that I have seen for about 100pp.
Anonymous
I'm interested in a set of this stuff purely for aesthetics... what can/should I expect to pay for it?
The full price listed on the Forging Chart lists the total cost as 1728.065 plat, but how many failures can I assume the smith to have (note that she was already wearing a set of this when I saw her, so a full set is obviously do-able for this smith)? I've got somebody trying to press a 10k pricetag on me for a full set, wondering if I'm being severely ripped off.
Thanks.
The full price listed on the Forging Chart lists the total cost as 1728.065 plat, but how many failures can I assume the smith to have (note that she was already wearing a set of this when I saw her, so a full set is obviously do-able for this smith)? I've got somebody trying to press a 10k pricetag on me for a full set, wondering if I'm being severely ripped off.
Thanks.
That stuff is so hard to get components for, I think any price that the smith asks, that you can afford is reasonable. See comments below though. Price is the buyers call. you are going to find very few sets for sale. All you can do is make a counter offer and see what happens, but the smith deserves a LOT for making the stuff.
Compare to prices of items with similar stats to decide fairness. If you like the looks, you pay a premium. Personally I think Verant made the components too hard to get for this armor to ever sell in any sort of quantity at any price. Only hope is that non smiths that get these drops, just give the components to their smith friends. (elf blood, temper components)
From stats I've seen plain adamatite chain and plate offer little over fine plate, dark elves can wear fine plate, and has similar stats, and lots of smiths all over are making it for 2000pp per set or a bit less. Prices will range for individual items starting at 10pp per ac for fine plate, with 2 sheet items, and especially 3 sheet items getting a premium (breastplates sell for 250pp each)
I have seen no stats on enchanted adamatite, though recipes are out there. they would certainly be an asset as I am sure the enhancements are nice and probably would comand a price of 10K per set.
I've seen one post for imbued chain mail adamanatite, no recipe, so someone is making it. This was the only data reported (below): Certainly a set of this would be worth 10pp I suspect, especially considering class limitations on armor with similar attributes.
I suspect smiths that have the money to experiment will be making imbued adamantite plate, though there are no known recipes for it. Dont expect any but the most alturistic to publish the recipies, heh!
Brillani writes: Regarding armor Imbued with the powers of Innoruuk's blessing. So far I have only seen stats on: Imbued Teir'Dal chainmail shirt: which were +5 wis, +5 int, +2 agi, +2 sv magic, AC14, caster wearable.
Compare to prices of items with similar stats to decide fairness. If you like the looks, you pay a premium. Personally I think Verant made the components too hard to get for this armor to ever sell in any sort of quantity at any price. Only hope is that non smiths that get these drops, just give the components to their smith friends. (elf blood, temper components)
From stats I've seen plain adamatite chain and plate offer little over fine plate, dark elves can wear fine plate, and has similar stats, and lots of smiths all over are making it for 2000pp per set or a bit less. Prices will range for individual items starting at 10pp per ac for fine plate, with 2 sheet items, and especially 3 sheet items getting a premium (breastplates sell for 250pp each)
I have seen no stats on enchanted adamatite, though recipes are out there. they would certainly be an asset as I am sure the enhancements are nice and probably would comand a price of 10K per set.
I've seen one post for imbued chain mail adamanatite, no recipe, so someone is making it. This was the only data reported (below): Certainly a set of this would be worth 10pp I suspect, especially considering class limitations on armor with similar attributes.
I suspect smiths that have the money to experiment will be making imbued adamantite plate, though there are no known recipes for it. Dont expect any but the most alturistic to publish the recipies, heh!
Brillani writes: Regarding armor Imbued with the powers of Innoruuk's blessing. So far I have only seen stats on: Imbued Teir'Dal chainmail shirt: which were +5 wis, +5 int, +2 agi, +2 sv magic, AC14, caster wearable.
Anonymous
Besides buying it from the guy in akanon. how cna i get it? There must be some possible way to make it. anyone got any ideas? Also, what is your favorite route on making regular FS armor? What i just did is have my porter friend port me to steamfront area, buy a whole bunch of medium quality metal sheets, run to bank. deposit it. Then port over to qeynos area and start making it there. Any faster ways? Post here. =)
-Chieko the 'chanter
-Chieko the 'chanter
Anonymous
Go to Hold keep. vender is near the bank. Since no plate molds are sold there u have to go to where they are sold. I personally bind myself at the bank of neriak. I then fill 6 backpacks full of medium ore and fill two more on myself and then gate back to neriak. I normally make sure i pay for sow just before gating since it makes movement that much faster. then since encumbered i go just faster then a walk to the plate vender in 3rd gate and gate back to bank in commons zone of neriak and walk the short distance to the forge. From there it gets easier to move around cause i have room in bank and on self after first bunch
Hope that helps if your dark elf =) or can get to a bank/forge/plate mold combo to your city =)
Uvan
Master Blacksmith
Bristlebane
ps...my god working plat is expensive. 4 pts of skill from 180 to 184 cost me 800pp
Hope that helps if your dark elf =) or can get to a bank/forge/plate mold combo to your city =)
Uvan
Master Blacksmith
Bristlebane
ps...my god working plat is expensive. 4 pts of skill from 180 to 184 cost me 800pp
Anonymous
You can also purchase medium quality ore from a vendor near the bank in HK. the same one that you can purchase the book on how to dye FS armor.
Havens Soulblesser
This is my preffered place to smith becuase it is close to a bank and home (Qyenos).
Havens Soulblesser
This is my preffered place to smith becuase it is close to a bank and home (Qyenos).
Anonymous
Just curious what your skill lvl is?
My smithing skill is 175 and i spend a lot of time on boards, and have compiled it all, constantly synthesizing, and reorganizing it for ease of use. I am a barbarian, so skilling up rate is abysmally slow, but I made it. If anyone wants my most recent document (microsoft word format or other on request), email me at knarf16@com. My health is poor, so i am at keyboard for small bites, and can't camp the dungeons much, concentrate on trades.
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I've heard alot of different things on this and was wondering if anyone had a good answer. Whats Stat do you want to increase with spells and items before you sit down to improve you smithing the fastest?? Also what stat or stats determines whether you fail or not???
The word from Verant supposedly is to advance skill, wisdom or intell, whichever is higher. Enhance that one.
To enhance success strength.
To enhance success strength.
Anonymous
Please don't forget to increase dexiterity. A created a shaman to be my blacksmith since the character had the best strength buffs of any class. I would cast the strength spell and use a fury spell to add strength. At level 9 I started my blacksmith training with str at 174. I laughed as I was able to go thru each skill level in 5 to 8 attempts. Things slowed down at 135 and at 168, I was thinking something was wrong when it took 20-30 attempts to make a level. So I finally got to level 175 and attempted bracers. I tried 4 bracers and had 4 failures. So I waited until I got my shaman up to level 14 for a 5 more str. I tried again. I tried 3 bracers and had 2 successes. I reviewed the new frenzy spell I had used and noticed that dex is increased also. Could it be that affects it also? So I asked a bard friend to use chant of battle to help me. Loaded up dexterity prior to working with fury gave 30 dex. I was feeling good that I was on the right track. I saved up and tried to make 3 breast plates 2 helments, 2 arms, 6 bracers. It worked great. Failed on only 1 arm. So before I start working at the forge, not only do I increase str but I increase dex too. It's my belief that a bard could increase dexterity to the same or close effect as high strength to help make Fine Plate. I will be doing tests later with a bard character of mine to prove the results. But for now, my shaman has some work to do.
Bearskin Level 19 Shaman
Bearskin Level 19 Shaman
Anonymous
My character is an Enchanter, I buffed int to 200 and str to 125. I noticed about the same success rate as you did so I dont know about the dex buff helping everyone.
Anonymous
Allot of people are saying that str. causes you to be successful more often. I'm not sure but I have my str buff up all the same. I just wish I was smarter :)
Briac
T-T Server
Master Smithe
Briac
T-T Server
Master Smithe
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There seems to be a lack of info out there concerning the making of Teir'Dal chain and adamantite pieces. Especially those that are imbued with the powers of Innoruuk's blessing. Any info on stats and the manufacture of this armor would be appreciated. So far I have only seen stats on a Imbued Teir'Dal chainmail shirt, which were +5 wis, +5 int, +2 agi, +2 sv magic, AC14, caster wearable. Very promising. Oh, and any info on where to buy adamantite and which forge should be used would be greatly appreciated as well. Is the forge out front of Adamantite Armor, right as you enter through the left door passed the gatehouse in Neriak Commons "the Forge of Neriak"? Or is it just a normal forge?
Our race's forge and the Adamantite used within, are both in Neriak Third Gate. The Forge is just past the Bauble, in the formerly unused building. There is also a merchant there that sells small plate patterns as well. The adamantite itself is deep within Third Gate: Go past the building that sells the plate and houses the forge, hang a left, and follow the path to the tower, then turn right. In this building is a merchant that sells adamantite and chainmail patterns. I have yet to make any enchanted adamantite as of yet, as I have no blue diamonds. I will gladly post any info I find, either from myself and others, and donations are greatly appreciated, and well rewarded. By that, I mean that if someone on Quellious were to entrust me with Blue Diamonds/enchanted adamantite to further my research, I will give them the armor I smith from it, after I post my findings here, of course.
176 skill and climbing ;)
2000pp and sinking ;(
176 skill and climbing ;)
2000pp and sinking ;(
Chainmail plate would take the race specific forge. If that is wrong, close forge, reopen and you get components back.
What gem was used for imbued? I would guess saphire from the following listing:
Bertoxxulous: necromancer; black saphire
Brell Serilis: dwarves
Bristlebane Fizzlethorpe: bards, rogues; peridot
Cazic-Thule: Ikthar? amber
Erolissi Marr: paladins
Innoruuk: Dark elves, sapphire?
Karana: humans? Druids? Rangers?; sapphire, plains pebble
Mithaniel marr: paladins; diamond
Prexux: fishers/sailors
Quellios: nomads
Rallos Zek: warriors; jade
Rodcet Nife: healers
Solusek Ro: wizards
Tribunal: warrior; ivory
Tunare: druids, rangers, elves
Veeshan: humans
Agnostics: can not wear imbued
Here are sources of components.
Allakhazams web links have nice listing of all other types of dark elf armor, under race specific smithing recipes.
Teir’Dal Smithy hammer: 10.5pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy
Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Small brick of Adamantite: 6.2pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Large Brick of Adamantite: 18.6pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Block of Adamantite: 3 large brick adamantite, Neriak Nectar cost to make 55.7pp
Sheet of Adamantite: 12.4pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Folded sheet of Adamantite: block of adamantite, Neriak Nectar, Teir’Dal Smithy Hammer cost to make 57pp
Adamantite Rings: Large Brick of Adamanatite Ore (small brick likely an error), Neriak Nectar, File
6.4pp
Adamantite Chain Jointing: Adamantite ring, file, Neriak Nectar, Teir’Dal Smithy Hammer 7pp
Shadow temper: (Dark elves) 1 elven blood, and 2 essence of shadows (dropped by Shadowed men), and a neriak nectar
Blood Temper: (orges?) Orge swill (bought in Oggok), elf blood, human blood, dwarf blood
Frost Temper: ( ?) Brandy, ice goblin blood, essences of winter (Ice Giants in Everfrost)
Neriak Nectar: 53c Neriak - Third Gate 910, -1415 Cecile Kjartan Alcoholic Beverage Vendor
What gem was used for imbued? I would guess saphire from the following listing:
Bertoxxulous: necromancer; black saphire
Brell Serilis: dwarves
Bristlebane Fizzlethorpe: bards, rogues; peridot
Cazic-Thule: Ikthar? amber
Erolissi Marr: paladins
Innoruuk: Dark elves, sapphire?
Karana: humans? Druids? Rangers?; sapphire, plains pebble
Mithaniel marr: paladins; diamond
Prexux: fishers/sailors
Quellios: nomads
Rallos Zek: warriors; jade
Rodcet Nife: healers
Solusek Ro: wizards
Tribunal: warrior; ivory
Tunare: druids, rangers, elves
Veeshan: humans
Agnostics: can not wear imbued
Here are sources of components.
Allakhazams web links have nice listing of all other types of dark elf armor, under race specific smithing recipes.
Teir’Dal Smithy hammer: 10.5pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy
Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Small brick of Adamantite: 6.2pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Large Brick of Adamantite: 18.6pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Block of Adamantite: 3 large brick adamantite, Neriak Nectar cost to make 55.7pp
Sheet of Adamantite: 12.4pp Neriak - Third Gate 695, -1775 Draan N'Ryt Ore, Teir'Dal Smithy Hammer, and Chainmail Pattern Vendor
Folded sheet of Adamantite: block of adamantite, Neriak Nectar, Teir’Dal Smithy Hammer cost to make 57pp
Adamantite Rings: Large Brick of Adamanatite Ore (small brick likely an error), Neriak Nectar, File
6.4pp
Adamantite Chain Jointing: Adamantite ring, file, Neriak Nectar, Teir’Dal Smithy Hammer 7pp
Shadow temper: (Dark elves) 1 elven blood, and 2 essence of shadows (dropped by Shadowed men), and a neriak nectar
Blood Temper: (orges?) Orge swill (bought in Oggok), elf blood, human blood, dwarf blood
Frost Temper: ( ?) Brandy, ice goblin blood, essences of winter (Ice Giants in Everfrost)
Neriak Nectar: 53c Neriak - Third Gate 910, -1415 Cecile Kjartan Alcoholic Beverage Vendor
Anonymous
side note...that elven blood needed for shadow temper has to be from none dark elf elves. So kill woodies and highs...and yes shadow temper is for dark elf adamantite temper....all i know is the temper is trivial at 135 skill in brewing
Anonymous
Does anyone have a working recipe for toolboxes?
Anonymous
It is either one or two metal bits and a flask of water. I am sorry but do not remember exactly what it is. But it is cheap enought that you could try either of those and not be out but maybe a couple gold.
Havens Soulblesser
Havens Soulblesser
Anonymous
it is one small brick of ore and one flask of water
When making tool boxes to skill up, these are choices and alternatives you have. go to my clan web site to see my full notes:
4A. Skill level 42-51 make tool boxes: (one metal bit, water). (trivial of 51 verified by Borrell 10/00) A tool box is an 8 slot container with a combine button. It is used by gnomes for tinkering. You are going to have run to a vendor to sell them as you make them one to three at a time as they do not fit inside other containers. They no longer can be sold at a major profit to vendors, vendors now pay back somewhat less than cost to make. Vendor buys them back for about 80c, with a metal bit costing about 200c to make. Net cost per successful attempt is 120c. Assuming 10 combines per level, and 50% success rate you cost will be 50pp more or less to get to level 51. (I have no personally verified data on this),
4B. Skill level 42-56 Cookie cutters: bits, cookie mold, water. mold (438c), 1 Metal bits (200c), water (13c) = 651c per attempt. Net loss 488c per attempt at 40% success rate at skill level 47 if you sell to venders. If you sell to players, 1620c would be your break-even point at these rates. Cookie cutters for 2 plat to the occassional buyer by my experience. Over 2 weeks of auctioning I found 3 cooks in Freeport interested, so don’t stock up on too many of these, like one at a time. Assuming above costs and overall 40% success rate, and 10 combines per level needed, and you sell back to vendors, you will need 140 combines, at 500c per combine roughly to skill 42 to 56 or 70pp.
4C. Skill level 42-56 Metal sheets: 2 small brick of ore (650c), water. (venders sell for 1295c, and cost 1340cc to make if this recipe correct. Venders buy for 774). There is probably no market as they are readily available to people needing them at less than your cost to make. Exception, if you are in HH, halfling smiths if around may snap these up to make small banded armor. Small molds are in Misty thicket, but closest sheets of metal for them are Qeynos Hills, or Freeport. Metal sheets can be considered a quick expensive route of skilling up. The only places I know to buy sheets of metal in Norath, are in Qeynos Hills and Freeport. So if you are smithing small size banded in Rivervale you will have to make your own metal sheets buying the bricks in High Hold Keep, other wise it just isn’t feasible as you have to make multiple trips over vast distances to Qeynos or Freeport. Potentially 140 combines to go from 42 to 56 skill, so about 70pp net cost potentially if you sell these back to vendors, otherwise you have potentially 70 sheets to use later for banded, major inventory storage problem though as they do not stack.
If you don't mind high intitial failure rates, lanterns a viable path at these skill levels also.
5A. Skill level 51-58 make Lanterns: bits(200c), lantern mold (181c), bottle(8c), water) (trivial of 58 confirmed post 9/00 patch by Borrell.) lantern casting molds sold in QH at cottage and at McDaniel’s Smokes. Get bottles at a taverns. In Halas, Leopok in bank has bottles. Greta Terrian outside of McDaniels has bottles for 6c. In East Freeport bottles are on second floor of chops and hops in south west corner of zone (the lower poor district reached via an obscure passage behind Felith and Bards imported Goods. It is quite tedious making lanterns with 4 components, and continually roaming around to restock the molds and bottles. Mysk reports 172 attempts skill 41 to 64 (7.4 combines per skill level). She is a high intelligence, high wisdom player. When I made lanterns I was experimenting with many other items so I do not have data to compare for a barbarian. Assuming 70 combines for level 51 to 58 cost to skill up is 28pp minus return on 70 successses (Borrell reports no failures skill level 51 to 58) selling back for 200c or 14pp, net cost 14pp. There is no point in selling these to players. They’d make fine gifts to newbies though, these are large lanterns by the way, a nice light source and they work just like the store bought kind.
4A. Skill level 42-51 make tool boxes: (one metal bit, water). (trivial of 51 verified by Borrell 10/00) A tool box is an 8 slot container with a combine button. It is used by gnomes for tinkering. You are going to have run to a vendor to sell them as you make them one to three at a time as they do not fit inside other containers. They no longer can be sold at a major profit to vendors, vendors now pay back somewhat less than cost to make. Vendor buys them back for about 80c, with a metal bit costing about 200c to make. Net cost per successful attempt is 120c. Assuming 10 combines per level, and 50% success rate you cost will be 50pp more or less to get to level 51. (I have no personally verified data on this),
4B. Skill level 42-56 Cookie cutters: bits, cookie mold, water. mold (438c), 1 Metal bits (200c), water (13c) = 651c per attempt. Net loss 488c per attempt at 40% success rate at skill level 47 if you sell to venders. If you sell to players, 1620c would be your break-even point at these rates. Cookie cutters for 2 plat to the occassional buyer by my experience. Over 2 weeks of auctioning I found 3 cooks in Freeport interested, so don’t stock up on too many of these, like one at a time. Assuming above costs and overall 40% success rate, and 10 combines per level needed, and you sell back to vendors, you will need 140 combines, at 500c per combine roughly to skill 42 to 56 or 70pp.
4C. Skill level 42-56 Metal sheets: 2 small brick of ore (650c), water. (venders sell for 1295c, and cost 1340cc to make if this recipe correct. Venders buy for 774). There is probably no market as they are readily available to people needing them at less than your cost to make. Exception, if you are in HH, halfling smiths if around may snap these up to make small banded armor. Small molds are in Misty thicket, but closest sheets of metal for them are Qeynos Hills, or Freeport. Metal sheets can be considered a quick expensive route of skilling up. The only places I know to buy sheets of metal in Norath, are in Qeynos Hills and Freeport. So if you are smithing small size banded in Rivervale you will have to make your own metal sheets buying the bricks in High Hold Keep, other wise it just isn’t feasible as you have to make multiple trips over vast distances to Qeynos or Freeport. Potentially 140 combines to go from 42 to 56 skill, so about 70pp net cost potentially if you sell these back to vendors, otherwise you have potentially 70 sheets to use later for banded, major inventory storage problem though as they do not stack.
If you don't mind high intitial failure rates, lanterns a viable path at these skill levels also.
5A. Skill level 51-58 make Lanterns: bits(200c), lantern mold (181c), bottle(8c), water) (trivial of 58 confirmed post 9/00 patch by Borrell.) lantern casting molds sold in QH at cottage and at McDaniel’s Smokes. Get bottles at a taverns. In Halas, Leopok in bank has bottles. Greta Terrian outside of McDaniels has bottles for 6c. In East Freeport bottles are on second floor of chops and hops in south west corner of zone (the lower poor district reached via an obscure passage behind Felith and Bards imported Goods. It is quite tedious making lanterns with 4 components, and continually roaming around to restock the molds and bottles. Mysk reports 172 attempts skill 41 to 64 (7.4 combines per skill level). She is a high intelligence, high wisdom player. When I made lanterns I was experimenting with many other items so I do not have data to compare for a barbarian. Assuming 70 combines for level 51 to 58 cost to skill up is 28pp minus return on 70 successses (Borrell reports no failures skill level 51 to 58) selling back for 200c or 14pp, net cost 14pp. There is no point in selling these to players. They’d make fine gifts to newbies though, these are large lanterns by the way, a nice light source and they work just like the store bought kind.
Anonymous
I trained up to 21, sharpened rusty 2H slash to 27 and from there I made toolboxes out of 1 flask of water and 1 metal bit. Success rate was good all the way up to 51. I ve also done the traditional way with scalers and skewers with another char and it's a pain compared to toolboxes. Inexpensive too.
Heh, I didn't advocate tool boxes, I gave the data so each person can make their own choice. There are other routes, including the traditional that were posted a year ago, inspite of many trivil level changes, and cost changes that have occured since. Costs are so trivial compared to what it costs to level up after master is reached (100) that it all seems like a moot point to me, it is the agrevation of running zones and vendors that are the big issue. When you have little cash on hand though, it is critical to know potential costs of each choice. My data is from a barbarian viewpoint, and virtually every other race is going to experience lower costs.
It agrevates me that virtually no one gives data to back up their absolute reccomendations. When you have data, you suddenly realize you have choices, and those choices are going to be different for each smith.
Again, after you reach level 115, you have a big choice. Do you make make and sell banded at a profit, or do you just continue to pour money in skilling up. Depends on your cash resources. I made a fortune on banded, by selectively making items suitable for my skill level and not beyond. Here is success rate data to help this.
Success rates with less than 10 combines are very very misleading potentially. These numbers are from personal experience, unless otherwise indicated.
Success rates at skill level 102:
Gorgets and Bracers 90%
Boots 30%
Everything else, forget it.
Success rates at skill level 115-119
Gorgets and Bracers near 100%
Helm 5/6=90%
Belts 5/5=100%
Mask 5/7=70%
Boots 6/12=50%
Sleeves 8/15=50%
Mantels 1/5=20%.
Everything else (legs, cloaks, tunics, gloves) forget it.
Success Rates at skill level 125.
Boots 5/5=100%
Bracers 4/5=80% (Danni’s experience)
Mantels 4/4=100%
Helms 4/5=90% (Danni’s experience)
Mask 3/4=75%
Tunics (chest) 6/9=66%
Sleeves 3/5=60% (Danni’s experience)
Leggings 2/8=20% (my experience) 4/5=80% (Danni’s experience)
Cloaks (back) 0/4=0%
I suggest avoiding cloaks, leggings, gauntlets at this level.
Success Rates at skill level 129
Tunics 4/5 80%
Cloaks 3/5 60% (at skill level 130 had 0/5) (at skill level 131 Cloaks 2/3 66%)
Leggings 1/6 17% (at skill level 131 3.4=75%
I suggest avoiding leggings, gauntlets, perhaps cloaks
Success rates at skill level 136 You can reliably make everthing at tolerable failure rates.
Cloaks 5/6 83%
Leggings 5/6 83%
Success rates at skill level 141:
All items have sporadic failure, sometimes as many as 4 failures in a row, but highly unusual.
Skill level 145 Still 10% failures with cloaks, mantels, legs but everthing else failures are less than 5%.
Skill level 160: Still about 10% failure with legs, mantels, and getting several failures in a row on gauntlets on occasion.
Skill level 175: still fails 10% with cloaks.
It agrevates me that virtually no one gives data to back up their absolute reccomendations. When you have data, you suddenly realize you have choices, and those choices are going to be different for each smith.
Again, after you reach level 115, you have a big choice. Do you make make and sell banded at a profit, or do you just continue to pour money in skilling up. Depends on your cash resources. I made a fortune on banded, by selectively making items suitable for my skill level and not beyond. Here is success rate data to help this.
Success rates with less than 10 combines are very very misleading potentially. These numbers are from personal experience, unless otherwise indicated.
Success rates at skill level 102:
Gorgets and Bracers 90%
Boots 30%
Everything else, forget it.
Success rates at skill level 115-119
Gorgets and Bracers near 100%
Helm 5/6=90%
Belts 5/5=100%
Mask 5/7=70%
Boots 6/12=50%
Sleeves 8/15=50%
Mantels 1/5=20%.
Everything else (legs, cloaks, tunics, gloves) forget it.
Success Rates at skill level 125.
Boots 5/5=100%
Bracers 4/5=80% (Danni’s experience)
Mantels 4/4=100%
Helms 4/5=90% (Danni’s experience)
Mask 3/4=75%
Tunics (chest) 6/9=66%
Sleeves 3/5=60% (Danni’s experience)
Leggings 2/8=20% (my experience) 4/5=80% (Danni’s experience)
Cloaks (back) 0/4=0%
I suggest avoiding cloaks, leggings, gauntlets at this level.
Success Rates at skill level 129
Tunics 4/5 80%
Cloaks 3/5 60% (at skill level 130 had 0/5) (at skill level 131 Cloaks 2/3 66%)
Leggings 1/6 17% (at skill level 131 3.4=75%
I suggest avoiding leggings, gauntlets, perhaps cloaks
Success rates at skill level 136 You can reliably make everthing at tolerable failure rates.
Cloaks 5/6 83%
Leggings 5/6 83%
Success rates at skill level 141:
All items have sporadic failure, sometimes as many as 4 failures in a row, but highly unusual.
Skill level 145 Still 10% failures with cloaks, mantels, legs but everthing else failures are less than 5%.
Skill level 160: Still about 10% failure with legs, mantels, and getting several failures in a row on gauntlets on occasion.
Skill level 175: still fails 10% with cloaks.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Use 1 metal bit and 1 flask of water. This will take you into the 50s. Start in your 20s. Kida boring but it works and you don't lose much coin for it :) Then lanterns and then skewers to 115 after that I don't remember.
Briac
T-T server
Master Smithe
Briac
T-T server
Master Smithe
Anonymous
Does anyone know what a fair price to charge for Fine Plate is? I just started making the stuff and don't really have any guidelines. It appears to be worth between 10 and 20 pp per a.c., varying wildly from piece to piece. I wish I had a clearer idea of what the market generally demands, so that I'm not gouging anyone or being taken for a ride.
Anonymous
This is what I charge for FSP, for 1 sheet pieces 75PP, 2 sheet pieces 150PP and for 3 sheet pieces 250PP, I also charge if I have the dye component and do everything from getting the component made into a extract to making the Med Jar and combining the ingredents to dyeing the armor and extra 100PP. Hope that helps
Anonymous
I paid 150pp for a Helm ... Good deal in my book!
I"m getting 10 to 15pp per ac.
For 3 sheet items I'm charging 250pp (chest), amd 200pp for legs. I am not getting any complaints, except from those that don't have even 100pp as usual.
10pp per ac is my bottom line, for one sheet items. For 2 sheet items I run 110 to 120 pp per item, I tend to charge lower for lower ac. Cheaper than that you court bankruptcy. The failures I experience seem to be with 3 and 2 sheet items. If you sell for this, you just need patience.
This is assuming you have skill level of 175 at least. It is foolish to make below that skill level, unless you are after a few specific items, as failure rates are going to be 20% or greater. At skill level 175 my personal failure rate on over 25 combines is less than 10%, which is consistent with what other players are reporting.
For 3 sheet items I'm charging 250pp (chest), amd 200pp for legs. I am not getting any complaints, except from those that don't have even 100pp as usual.
10pp per ac is my bottom line, for one sheet items. For 2 sheet items I run 110 to 120 pp per item, I tend to charge lower for lower ac. Cheaper than that you court bankruptcy. The failures I experience seem to be with 3 and 2 sheet items. If you sell for this, you just need patience.
This is assuming you have skill level of 175 at least. It is foolish to make below that skill level, unless you are after a few specific items, as failure rates are going to be 20% or greater. At skill level 175 my personal failure rate on over 25 combines is less than 10%, which is consistent with what other players are reporting.
Scholar
44 posts
I agree with these pricings. I've had a few people complain deeply about the pricing of FP. I just explain the cost going into the manufacture (i.e. around 21pp per MQ ore, mold cost, not to mention getting the pelt, silk thread, etc.). Aside from the simple cost factor is the time spent gathering materials (if you're making to order, most likely you will have to do some travelling to obtain some of the pieces you need), and the time, money, and effort it costs to get your skill up high enough that you can attempt to make armor with a reasonable rate of success. If the market wouldn't bear these costs, we couldn't charge them.
Anonymous
My friend, (level 49 monk) said in Faymart that he saw sets of uncolored fs armor going for about 2.3K to 3K depending. Not sure if that gives you any idea. But i'd say it's well worth it. Making those darned metal bits for six years sucks dooty.
-Chieko the 'chanter
-Chieko the 'chanter
Anonymous
I have heard that smithes are charging 75pp per piece of sheet metal. This seems to be resonable and easy to figure out. I plan on following this pricing when I hit 175 *groan*.
Briac
T-T Server
Master Smithe
Briac
T-T Server
Master Smithe
Scholar
16 posts
75p per sheet is high in my opinion.
I charge 50p for 1 sheet items. 120 or so for 2 sheet items and 190 for 3 sheet items.
The basic rules for old trade skills was to sell at 2x what the components cost.
I charge 50p for 1 sheet items. 120 or so for 2 sheet items and 190 for 3 sheet items.
The basic rules for old trade skills was to sell at 2x what the components cost.
Scholar
44 posts
Does anyone know the trivial values for FP? I want to plan how to work on my skill, and to do that I'd like to know what the various trivial values are. My skill is 176, and I know I'm supposed to work on gorgets, bracers, then probably visors. Thanks in advance.
Anonymous
the first to trivial is gorgets....soon as i hit 182 skill they went trivial. I'm working bracers now and at 184 and still not trivial. then i'm gonna see if visors still give skill since they are not trivial at 184 skill either.
Uvan
Master Blacksmith
Bristlebane
Uvan
Master Blacksmith
Bristlebane
Only reported trivials so far on this board are for one sheet items, and is around 180, 181. Success rates are good enough for all items, if you are really money tight, avoid 3 sheet items. If you price correctly though, your money tight days are now GONE GONE GONE.
Attempted several pieces of Fine Plate, a full visible suit actually, at 175 skill. Succeeded in making the helm, greaves, vambraces, gauntlets, two bracers, and breastplate, had 2 fails, one on the gauntlets and the other on the boots, 1 skill raise. Stopped for a bit, as I was going broke.
Now, my problem is, where to get someone willing to dye my stuff? As a result of this whole smithing mess, I have become a mistress smith (176), a mistress brewer (109), and slightly better with tailoring (44). If this keeps up, I will be a mistress of all trades, but I can't make my own dye :p
Anonymous
colors are gonna be custom anyway .. so when someone wants colored steel, have them provide the dyes. Sure find a hookup you can refer them too, always a good trade practice, maybe even get ya some kickback =D.
Anonymous
Tried to make an Antonion Long Sword in the Royal Qeynos Forge yesterday.
Used (1) Folded Med. Quality Sheet, (1) Long Blade Mold (1) Pommel Mold (1) Hilt Mold & (1) flask of water. This is the recipe located on this board and checked componets 3 times for accuracy.
Result: Message that these items won't combine, try in another forge.
I did that and got the fustrating message of items didn't combine to create anything. Any ideas or do I need to wait for next patch to un-nerf?
Thanks,
Strebor M.
Human Druid-Luclin
Used (1) Folded Med. Quality Sheet, (1) Long Blade Mold (1) Pommel Mold (1) Hilt Mold & (1) flask of water. This is the recipe located on this board and checked componets 3 times for accuracy.
Result: Message that these items won't combine, try in another forge.
I did that and got the fustrating message of items didn't combine to create anything. Any ideas or do I need to wait for next patch to un-nerf?
Thanks,
Strebor M.
Human Druid-Luclin
Anonymous
You had one componet wrong and that is the MQ folded sheet of metal. It only requires a Folded sheet of metal.
Havens Soulblesser
Havens Soulblesser
Anonymous
Hmmm...went and checked and saw the change in the Recipe. Thanks for update Havens and I will try again =)
Strebor
Human Druid-Luclin
Strebor
Human Druid-Luclin
Antonian weapons are made by HUMANS IN QEYNOS
Royal Qeynos Forge: Plaza with clock tower in South Qeynos.
Actually, unclear which forge to use. Try race specific first. Allakhazams links all say medium quality, but others have indicated this may be an error also.
Royal Qeynos Forge: Plaza with clock tower in South Qeynos.
Actually, unclear which forge to use. Try race specific first. Allakhazams links all say medium quality, but others have indicated this may be an error also.
remember if using specialty forge you can always recover components by closing the forge, and reopening. The weapons take regular forge.
Anonymous
From all the data I have gathered --- Human Chainmail will be fixed after the next Patch. You will be able to smith Chainmail for any race before going to Bandedmail..
HelixDragon
HelixDragon
Anonymous
Yak indicate that the next patch will allow you to make standard Chainmail before moving on to Bandedmail.
HelixDragon
(I hope that there will be a Caster wearable Version like the Elfs have)
HelixDragon
(I hope that there will be a Caster wearable Version like the Elfs have)
Anonymous
I need to know where to get/loot/buy SKyiron armor, to make cabilis armor. can someone please tell where to buy it, or where to loot it from mobs, where to find the mobs, and what level that are.
Anonymous
It is purchased by the Cabilis Forge in the Warrior Guild area.
Anonymous
Question: Where is the recipe for Royal Temper located ingame?
I ask this because I have received Essence of Sunlight from Chromodrakes in Skyfire. Everything I have read seems to indicate that you need Essence of Sunshine, which drops off SG's. I would like to check the wording ingame of what the recipe calls for. (I have not looted Essence of Sunshine off an SG because they last all of 2 minutes on my server, while chromodrakes are much more plentiful)
I really don't want to try to combine my Rain Water (not a tough camp, kill the Gnolls in Lake Rathe at the SK zone, seemed to drop only off Gnoll Guards), my Griffenne blood (got 4 of these after camping them in NK for 14 hours... pain in my ****** and the Essence of Sunlights (chromo drop) I have because I really don't want to camp griffennes anymore then I have to.
Any info appreciated, thanks.
Wotandar McBaine
Warrior of Exiled Legion
Rodcet Knife
I ask this because I have received Essence of Sunlight from Chromodrakes in Skyfire. Everything I have read seems to indicate that you need Essence of Sunshine, which drops off SG's. I would like to check the wording ingame of what the recipe calls for. (I have not looted Essence of Sunshine off an SG because they last all of 2 minutes on my server, while chromodrakes are much more plentiful)
I really don't want to try to combine my Rain Water (not a tough camp, kill the Gnolls in Lake Rathe at the SK zone, seemed to drop only off Gnoll Guards), my Griffenne blood (got 4 of these after camping them in NK for 14 hours... pain in my ****** and the Essence of Sunlights (chromo drop) I have because I really don't want to camp griffennes anymore then I have to.
Any info appreciated, thanks.
Wotandar McBaine
Warrior of Exiled Legion
Rodcet Knife
Anonymous
Went ahead and tried it...
...and it worked.
So, for Royal Temper:
Rain Water - Gnoll wimps in Lake Rathe
Griffenne Blood - Griffennes, griffennes, and more griffennes...
Essence of Sunshine(Sunlight) - SG's or Chromo's
Note: Tempers are trivial at 135 brewing.
Wotandar McBaine
Warrior of Exiled Legion
Rodcet Nife
...and it worked.
So, for Royal Temper:
Rain Water - Gnoll wimps in Lake Rathe
Griffenne Blood - Griffennes, griffennes, and more griffennes...
Essence of Sunshine(Sunlight) - SG's or Chromo's
Note: Tempers are trivial at 135 brewing.
Wotandar McBaine
Warrior of Exiled Legion
Rodcet Nife
Scholar
16 posts
I can verify the recipie of Royal Temper - 1 Rain Water (Lk Rathe gnoll camp) - 1 Griffenne Blood (pain in the ***) - 2 Essence of Sunshine (I have personally only recieved these from SG's or buying them in Freeport).
I will have to try the Chromodrakes. Thanks for the info.
I will have to try the Chromodrakes. Thanks for the info.
Anonymous
FYI I have gotten this off earth elementals as well as fire elementals but never Have I gotten it off mist.
Try the the hole seems to be dropping there more then any other place
Try the the hole seems to be dropping there more then any other place
Anonymous
How much would you sell these for?
I was thinking 4500pp for Imbued neckgaurd and 5500 for legs. To low to high? Im paying about 1000pp per blue diamond any info would be great
I was thinking 4500pp for Imbued neckgaurd and 5500 for legs. To low to high? Im paying about 1000pp per blue diamond any info would be great
Anonymous
hi there!! I am glad to see someone is having success with imbued armor :) Can you please let us know what skill you have, and your success rate at making these things? It would be much appreciated. Thanks,
Anders
Anders
Anonymous
Also the recipes used to make them.
Havens Soulblesser
Havens Soulblesser
10 posts
Well, I thought, as a first try to use the chainmail patterns like banded(1 water + XXX Sheet of metal + Mold) well that didnt work, I used the Chainmail viel pattern with first 1,2 then 3 sheets of metal and always with water to No avail. oh well, will keep trying)
Evildestroyer Hoovesmaster, the Holy Farmer
Evildestroyer Hoovesmaster, the Holy Farmer
blasted gremlin did it again, look for posts by Knarmon on the race specific stuff within the past week. Loses my sig file, i think my son must be deleting my cookie files, heh!
Anonymous
Chain mail is implimented for several races, but not all. What race are you? Check out Allakhazam's web links, recipes laid out very very nicely for race specific armor that exists so far. Some of the recipes have links to stats, but that is extremely patchy. Naming is sometimes very confusing. Also, if you scan down a few posts, I've been pulling together information from various sources so it is all in one place for a specific race smith. My main contribution is getting the component information with the recipes.
Anonymous
from what i have read on the EQ VAULT message board... they have not implemented the patch for chain as of yet. Coming soon i think.
Anders
Anders
Anonymous
I just found a new vendor in Northern Qeynos south of the ironforge estates, named Connie Link, selling chainmail paterns for 1-9pp(81cha, wearing my cha reducing items :P) My thinking is that these are not for Barbarians since this is a human town, and not Seafarers since thats all in the freeport forge, any info on the recipes would be great.
Evildestroyer Hoovesmaster, The Holy Farmer
Evildestroyer Hoovesmaster, The Holy Farmer
See my post on human qeynos specialty items, a few posts down.
Anonymous
Hello, to save new-comers the confusion of looking through the past month or so of smithing posts, especially the ones that do not concern us dwarves, i will post all the info that i have concerning advanced smithing atm.
Beginning at skill 150 (to get here, check out one of allakazam's posted guides to smithing):
let me begin by saying that there are 4 important parameters that govern smithing "success", and one should understand them all in order to make the decision of which path to choose beyond 150.
Intelligence: defines the rate at which you "skill up". The skill-up does not seem to be dependant upon whether you successfully created an item or not, rather what your intelligence was and the difficulty level of the item being smithed. In other words, if your goal is simply skilling, not creating, this skill is important. To me skilling is not as important as creating which i will explain later. (my int a mere 63)
Wisdom/Strength: Determines the success rate of the item being successfully created. I have heard contradicting reports about whether str plays a role in this... but it does seem to. In other words, i was buffing my strength on every attempt just to be safe. At skill 165 or so, i hardly ever ( less than 5 %) failed at smithing banded cloaks, which was part of my strategy.... see charisma next. (my wisdom 169, str (buffed... around 150)
Charisma: Determines prices (along with faction) you will get buying and selling to/from merchants. Dwarves inherently have terrible charisma... so i set out to change this :) I think garnering charisma is one of the most underrated and important facets of everquest!!! I cannot believe i didn't take charisma seriously for so long. After purchasing 2 +7 charisma bracers(40pp for pair), 2 +7 char rings (150 for pair), 1 crude stein (+15 char, 30pp), 2 oppaline earrings (50pp pair), and a silly +3 char necklace(2pp), i now have a charisma when i sell/buy of 101. I.e I HARLDY LOSE MONEY MAKING BANDED CLOAKS AND SELLING TO VENDOR and occassionally player. And more importnatly and applicable to all, i sell for about 40% higher to merchants now!!! that is a huge difference folks. I have allready paid for all these charisma items and then some.
Strategy: So armed with this knowledge, I would don my +wisdom gear and str buffs for smithing... and don charisma items when selling/buying. I went from skill 151 to skill 175 (max for banded armor) in about 6 hours or so (2 playing sessions) and only 100pp or so, smithing only banded cloaks :) I would smith about 10-15 cloaks then skill ups seemed to come in bunches. i prolly averaged a skill-up every 10 attempts or so... but who cares i was hardly losing money so skill-up rate was of no concern.
Advanced smithing: ABOVE 175:::
here is some compiled info about smithing imbued dwarven.
1.) Do NOT ATTEMPT BELOW SKILL 175 (prolly below 185 lol)- this is because the components are very rare and at this stage very expensive.
2.) The recipes posted at this web-site for racial armor are great but missing one key bit of info:
That is the fact that imbued armor cannot be made without ENCHANTING THE BRELLIUM!!!! Now comes the confusion, "how does one do this"? So far it seems you need a very rare gem called jacinth (for dwarven imbued) which is only dropped in Old Seb and the planes (yes, that sucks much ***, i know). To further alienate smith's under level 50, it seems you need 1 gem per sheet of brellium or one gem per ore to make brellium sheets, this i am unsure of :( Either way it is going to be very expensive if you can't get them yourself. Also, I think you need an enchanter to do this for you, with a LEVEL 49 spell!!!! So far i have heard that the gems sell for anywhere between 400 and 1000pp a pop, but i have yet to even find someone willing to sell or even has for that matter.
Well i hope this helps someone, and thanks to all who have helped me with posts in the past. Good luck, and may Brell be with you.
Anders Sacrifizen
the Tribunal (skill 175)
Beginning at skill 150 (to get here, check out one of allakazam's posted guides to smithing):
let me begin by saying that there are 4 important parameters that govern smithing "success", and one should understand them all in order to make the decision of which path to choose beyond 150.
Intelligence: defines the rate at which you "skill up". The skill-up does not seem to be dependant upon whether you successfully created an item or not, rather what your intelligence was and the difficulty level of the item being smithed. In other words, if your goal is simply skilling, not creating, this skill is important. To me skilling is not as important as creating which i will explain later. (my int a mere 63)
Wisdom/Strength: Determines the success rate of the item being successfully created. I have heard contradicting reports about whether str plays a role in this... but it does seem to. In other words, i was buffing my strength on every attempt just to be safe. At skill 165 or so, i hardly ever ( less than 5 %) failed at smithing banded cloaks, which was part of my strategy.... see charisma next. (my wisdom 169, str (buffed... around 150)
Charisma: Determines prices (along with faction) you will get buying and selling to/from merchants. Dwarves inherently have terrible charisma... so i set out to change this :) I think garnering charisma is one of the most underrated and important facets of everquest!!! I cannot believe i didn't take charisma seriously for so long. After purchasing 2 +7 charisma bracers(40pp for pair), 2 +7 char rings (150 for pair), 1 crude stein (+15 char, 30pp), 2 oppaline earrings (50pp pair), and a silly +3 char necklace(2pp), i now have a charisma when i sell/buy of 101. I.e I HARLDY LOSE MONEY MAKING BANDED CLOAKS AND SELLING TO VENDOR and occassionally player. And more importnatly and applicable to all, i sell for about 40% higher to merchants now!!! that is a huge difference folks. I have allready paid for all these charisma items and then some.
Strategy: So armed with this knowledge, I would don my +wisdom gear and str buffs for smithing... and don charisma items when selling/buying. I went from skill 151 to skill 175 (max for banded armor) in about 6 hours or so (2 playing sessions) and only 100pp or so, smithing only banded cloaks :) I would smith about 10-15 cloaks then skill ups seemed to come in bunches. i prolly averaged a skill-up every 10 attempts or so... but who cares i was hardly losing money so skill-up rate was of no concern.
Advanced smithing: ABOVE 175:::
here is some compiled info about smithing imbued dwarven.
1.) Do NOT ATTEMPT BELOW SKILL 175 (prolly below 185 lol)- this is because the components are very rare and at this stage very expensive.
2.) The recipes posted at this web-site for racial armor are great but missing one key bit of info:
That is the fact that imbued armor cannot be made without ENCHANTING THE BRELLIUM!!!! Now comes the confusion, "how does one do this"? So far it seems you need a very rare gem called jacinth (for dwarven imbued) which is only dropped in Old Seb and the planes (yes, that sucks much ***, i know). To further alienate smith's under level 50, it seems you need 1 gem per sheet of brellium or one gem per ore to make brellium sheets, this i am unsure of :( Either way it is going to be very expensive if you can't get them yourself. Also, I think you need an enchanter to do this for you, with a LEVEL 49 spell!!!! So far i have heard that the gems sell for anywhere between 400 and 1000pp a pop, but i have yet to even find someone willing to sell or even has for that matter.
Well i hope this helps someone, and thanks to all who have helped me with posts in the past. Good luck, and may Brell be with you.
Anders Sacrifizen
the Tribunal (skill 175)
Anonymous
Are you sure WIS and STR don't affect skill increases in the same way as INT? I remember a while ago there was a huge debate about this for jewelry and the conclusion (supported by VI's statements) was that nothing modified success rate but your skill. Unless the recent trade skill upgrade has changed this, I believe this to be still true for all trade skills.
Kug.
Kug.
Anonymous
I posted this under brewing & in Forums but has anyone seen this drop? My count is now up to 30 griffennes (which are not the most frequent of spawns) but no blood.
Trying to find out if this is nerfed or not.
Thanks,
Strebor M.
31 Human Druid-Luclin
Master Brewer/Baker/Tailor/Smith/Alcoholic
Teleporting to a Bar near you.
Trying to find out if this is nerfed or not.
Thanks,
Strebor M.
31 Human Druid-Luclin
Master Brewer/Baker/Tailor/Smith/Alcoholic
Teleporting to a Bar near you.
Anonymous
Yes, griffenne blood does drop of griffennes in North karanas. I have looted three so far in at least 15 hours of killing griffs maybe more.
Ralaini
52 Human Ranger
Ralaini
52 Human Ranger
Anonymous
Finnally after killing my 40+ Griffenne I got one!
A bit over nerfed on this rare drop for a smithing componet! On the upside, I have aided 7 bards and 10 shamen to get charms and downfeathers for their quests....
LOL!
Strebor M.
Human Druid-Luclin
A bit over nerfed on this rare drop for a smithing componet! On the upside, I have aided 7 bards and 10 shamen to get charms and downfeathers for their quests....
LOL!
Strebor M.
Human Druid-Luclin
Anonymous
I have the luck of an Irishman then. Becuase i killed 5 the other night and got two but have spent about 6 or 7 hours more killing them and have not gotten one. But one of the ones i did get was off of a griffon.
Havens Soulblesser
Havens Soulblesser
My compilation of Allakhazam info, my notes, all in one easy to use text file, with notes on how to get and make all components.
HUMAN IN QEYNOS
The following recipes must be combined by a Human in the Royal Qeynos Forge: Plaza with clock tower in South Qeynos.
Component recipes and sources:
Royal temper: combine in brew barrel with brewing skill: rain water (gnolls in Paw), griffenes blood, 2 drops sunshine. (sand giants in oasis)
Chain Jointing: Metal Ring + file + smithy hammer + water. Cost 813c
Metal Rings: water, large brick ore (small brick is error), file (combine in racial forge, in regular forge this will give steel boning)
Leather backing (padding): tailor skill trivial at 30, combine in sewing kit: silk thread, LQ wolf/bear/or cat pelt. Stacks.
Enchanted metal bars: Metal bars sold at jewelry shops. You choose one type of metal, get it enchanted. Cost data for the armor does not include the enchanted metal. You will have to pay an enchanter to get the metal enchanted. It uses up all their mana to enchant 3 bars, so this is a very time consuming process. Vendor prices: Silver is 525c, Electrum 2.6pp, Gold 11pp, Platinum 105pp. Enchant Silver is a level 8 spell, enchant electrum is level 16, enchant gold is level 24. I do not know the level for enchant platinum. High charisma can give huge cost savings. On west coast of Norath, this would be Ironforge Estates in North Qeynos. There is a jewelry shop in High Hold Keep, not sure if they sell bars though. Jewelry shop in basement of main temple in Erudin. Jewelry shop is near market place in North Freeport, South east corner of large building as you leave the the marketplace. I don’t know if they have bars either. Jewelry vendor is also at one of inns in East Commonlands if I remember correctly.
Weapon Molds: Original weapons: Hilt mold Pommel mold Dual-Edged Blade Mold Heavy Steel Blade Mold Spiked Ball Mold: East Freeport 150, -370 Jillian Dayson General Mold Vendor, East Cabilis -425, -210 Smithy Vyx Weapon Part Molds Vendor, Vellous and Bardoys Imported Goods in East Freeport from Villian, Western Karana about –13,000 north side of main east west road. New weapons of Sept 2000 Javelin, Longblade, dagger, thin blade, axe head, halbard, curved blade, mace, throwing knife, shurikin,throwing axe, hammer head, spear, pick, oak shaft, Felwithe -80, -415 Opal Leganyn Weapon Molds Vendor, North Qeynos 25, 55 Dren Ironforge Weapon Molds Vendor, Kaladim 400, -160 Bndainy Everhot Weapon Molds Vendor, upstairs, West Freeport -175, -345 Jynsa Smithson Weapon Blade Molds Vendor
Full Plate Molds: 90, -395 Nerrisia Irontree (size? Probably medium) Plate Molds Vendor Tortuk Everhot Small Plate Molds Vendordf, Felwithe, , East Freeport 55, -170 Valentin Fireheart (probably medium) Plate Mold Vendor, upstairs. South Qeynos Tin Soldier Mar Seddar has full plate molds.
Smithy hammer: General smith hammer is bought in Ikthors One player reports “wrong ingredients” with hammer bought in in NFP, presumably Groflah’s, making full plate (non race specific armor), so I conjecture he got a race specific hammer from Groflah’s. Recipes seem to call for regular generic smithy hammer.
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer. Cost to make 21pp Trivial below 127.
Medium Quality Block of Ore: 20,527-28,373c, wt 18.0, Graham Embersmith at High Hold Keep, near bank. non stackable.
High Quality sheet of metal: 2 small bricks of High Quality ore, water. Confirmed by Gzar Zigdog.
High quality small brick ore 11,497-15,933c, non stackable, wt 7.0, (HH keep, Miner Harton) (silver in color) when sold to other vendors by players 17pp. Dropped by Permafrost goblins near King room, Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Enchantable with enchant steel. Vendor buys for 2818c. Nintalten writes: Goblins in Solusek A also drop the small/large bricks of high quality ore. They drop fairly frequently. After spending about 1-2 hrs in Permafrost I had about 5 peices of small ore and 2-3 peices of the large. You can camp the rare spawns while doing it and get some half decent equipment. Used by humans only in Freeport forge, for specialty armors and shields.
High quality large brick ore 34,650-48,109c, non stackable, (silver in color), wt 14, (Miner Harton, High Hold keep.) Dropped by permafrost goblins near King room. Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Halas, magic shop 41pp (may not be regular stock item) Enchantable with enchant steel. Needed to make field plate human race specific Freeport forge only
HQ block of ore: 3 large bricks of HQ ore, water (human Freeport forge, field plate)
High quality folded sheet metal: High Quality block of ore, water, smithy hammer. In regular forge. Cost to make 10pp
Confirmed by Gzar Zigdog.
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer.
Medium Quality Block of Ore: 3 Medium Quality Large Bricks of Ore, Water (this recipe verified by Eforty Ounce), on vendor in High Hold Keep, near bank
medium quality large brick of ore: on vendor in High Hold keep near bank. 7pp Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill
Weapons:
Antonian Javalin = Medium Quality Sheet Metal + Flask of Water + Javelin Mold. 4.7pp damage 8, wt 1.5, delay 30, range 250 throwing weapon. Class: war, ranger, monk, bard, rogue, shaman. Race: all
Antonian Long Sword = Medium Quality Folded Metal Sheet + Long Blade Mold + Hilt Mold + Pommil Mold + Water. 17pp 1HS dam 8, wt 1.5, delay 28 race: hum barb HEF erudite. Class: war, pal, ranger, SHD, bard, rogue
Enchanted Antonian Emerald Long Sword = Enchanted Medium Quality(?) Folded Metal Sheet + Long Blade Mold + Hilt Mold + Pommil Mold + Vial of Distilled Mana + Royal Temper + Emerald 30pp
Enchanted Antonian RubyLong Sword = Enchanted Medium Quality(?) Folded Metal Sheet + Long Blade Mold + Hilt Mold + Pommil Mold + Vial of Distilled Mana + Royal Temper + Ruby 150pp
Full Plate Armor/Silver-electrum-gold-plat full plate armor:
Race: human, barb, erud, hef. Class: war clr pal shd bard. You pick one of the four metal bars types. Little comparative data available on stat differences that metals give.., where I have is given below.
Full Plate Bracers = Full Plate Bracer Mold + One High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 32pp AC 12 wt 4.4
Full Plate Breastplates = Full Plate Breastplate Mold + Three High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 108pp
Platinum Full Breastplate: Full Breasplate mold, smithy hammer, leather padding/backing, 3 HQ folded sheets of metal, Royal temper, Chain jointing, platinum bar. AC22 Wt 11 lighter in color than cleric planer armor and darker than Mithril.
Full Plate Boots = Full Plate Boot Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 63pp
Full Plate Collars = Full Plate Collar Mold + One High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 29pp AC 9 wt 4.5
Full Plate Cloaks = Full Plate Cloak Mold + Three High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 27pp
Full Plate Gauntlets = Full Plate Gauntlet Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 42pp
Full Plate Girdle = Full Plate Girdle Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 53pp
Full Plate Greaves = Full Plate Greave Mold + Three High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 97pp
Full Plate Helm = Full Plate Helm Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 63pp
Full Plate Pauldron = Full Plate Pauldron Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 84pp
Full Plate Vambraces = Full Plate Vambraces Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 58pp
Full Plate Visors = Full Plate Visor Mold + One High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 41pp
ENCHANTED SILVER-ELECTRUM-GOLD-PLAT FULL PLATE
Class: BRD SHD WAR CLR PAL. Race: Human Barb Erudite Halfelf. The bars of metal need to be enchanted, along with the High Quality folded sheet metal. Otherwise the recipes are the same as for full plate. For full plate armor the cost of metal bar needs to be added to cost estimates noted on the recipe. Can be forged with any enchanted metal bar, silver electrum gold and platinum. Each has a different stat. It seems the success rate on full plate is at minimum 5:1 at 200+ skill.
Enchanted Full Plate Bracers = Full Plate Bracer Mold + One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Breastplates = Full Plate Breastplate Mold + Three High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Boots = Full Plate Boot Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Collars = Full Plate Collar Mold + One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Cloaks = Full Plate Cloak Mold + Three High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Gauntlets = Full Plate Gauntlet Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Girdle = Full Plate Girdle Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Greaves = Full Plate Greave Mold + Three High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Helm = Full Plate Helm Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Pauldron = Full Plate Pauldron Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Vambraces = Full Plate Vambraces Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Visor = Full Plate Visor Mold + One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium AC 7, charisma 2, wisdom 2, disease 2 (metal used for these stats not specified)
Enchanted Gold Full Plate Visor: Full Plate Visor Mold, One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet, Royal Temper, Smithy Hammer, Leather Backing, Enchanted Chain Jointing, Enchanted Gold Bar. Rokza/ Tribesmith Dragonforge reports: AC 7 Dex: 2 Cha: 2 Sv Poi: 2 wt: 2
HUMAN IN QEYNOS
The following recipes must be combined by a Human in the Royal Qeynos Forge: Plaza with clock tower in South Qeynos.
Component recipes and sources:
Royal temper: combine in brew barrel with brewing skill: rain water (gnolls in Paw), griffenes blood, 2 drops sunshine. (sand giants in oasis)
Chain Jointing: Metal Ring + file + smithy hammer + water. Cost 813c
Metal Rings: water, large brick ore (small brick is error), file (combine in racial forge, in regular forge this will give steel boning)
Leather backing (padding): tailor skill trivial at 30, combine in sewing kit: silk thread, LQ wolf/bear/or cat pelt. Stacks.
Enchanted metal bars: Metal bars sold at jewelry shops. You choose one type of metal, get it enchanted. Cost data for the armor does not include the enchanted metal. You will have to pay an enchanter to get the metal enchanted. It uses up all their mana to enchant 3 bars, so this is a very time consuming process. Vendor prices: Silver is 525c, Electrum 2.6pp, Gold 11pp, Platinum 105pp. Enchant Silver is a level 8 spell, enchant electrum is level 16, enchant gold is level 24. I do not know the level for enchant platinum. High charisma can give huge cost savings. On west coast of Norath, this would be Ironforge Estates in North Qeynos. There is a jewelry shop in High Hold Keep, not sure if they sell bars though. Jewelry shop in basement of main temple in Erudin. Jewelry shop is near market place in North Freeport, South east corner of large building as you leave the the marketplace. I don’t know if they have bars either. Jewelry vendor is also at one of inns in East Commonlands if I remember correctly.
Weapon Molds: Original weapons: Hilt mold Pommel mold Dual-Edged Blade Mold Heavy Steel Blade Mold Spiked Ball Mold: East Freeport 150, -370 Jillian Dayson General Mold Vendor, East Cabilis -425, -210 Smithy Vyx Weapon Part Molds Vendor, Vellous and Bardoys Imported Goods in East Freeport from Villian, Western Karana about –13,000 north side of main east west road. New weapons of Sept 2000 Javelin, Longblade, dagger, thin blade, axe head, halbard, curved blade, mace, throwing knife, shurikin,throwing axe, hammer head, spear, pick, oak shaft, Felwithe -80, -415 Opal Leganyn Weapon Molds Vendor, North Qeynos 25, 55 Dren Ironforge Weapon Molds Vendor, Kaladim 400, -160 Bndainy Everhot Weapon Molds Vendor, upstairs, West Freeport -175, -345 Jynsa Smithson Weapon Blade Molds Vendor
Full Plate Molds: 90, -395 Nerrisia Irontree (size? Probably medium) Plate Molds Vendor Tortuk Everhot Small Plate Molds Vendordf, Felwithe, , East Freeport 55, -170 Valentin Fireheart (probably medium) Plate Mold Vendor, upstairs. South Qeynos Tin Soldier Mar Seddar has full plate molds.
Smithy hammer: General smith hammer is bought in Ikthors One player reports “wrong ingredients” with hammer bought in in NFP, presumably Groflah’s, making full plate (non race specific armor), so I conjecture he got a race specific hammer from Groflah’s. Recipes seem to call for regular generic smithy hammer.
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer. Cost to make 21pp Trivial below 127.
Medium Quality Block of Ore: 20,527-28,373c, wt 18.0, Graham Embersmith at High Hold Keep, near bank. non stackable.
High Quality sheet of metal: 2 small bricks of High Quality ore, water. Confirmed by Gzar Zigdog.
High quality small brick ore 11,497-15,933c, non stackable, wt 7.0, (HH keep, Miner Harton) (silver in color) when sold to other vendors by players 17pp. Dropped by Permafrost goblins near King room, Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Enchantable with enchant steel. Vendor buys for 2818c. Nintalten writes: Goblins in Solusek A also drop the small/large bricks of high quality ore. They drop fairly frequently. After spending about 1-2 hrs in Permafrost I had about 5 peices of small ore and 2-3 peices of the large. You can camp the rare spawns while doing it and get some half decent equipment. Used by humans only in Freeport forge, for specialty armors and shields.
High quality large brick ore 34,650-48,109c, non stackable, (silver in color), wt 14, (Miner Harton, High Hold keep.) Dropped by permafrost goblins near King room. Also DE vendor near Neriak Forge. Halas, magic shop 41pp (may not be regular stock item) Enchantable with enchant steel. Needed to make field plate human race specific Freeport forge only
HQ block of ore: 3 large bricks of HQ ore, water (human Freeport forge, field plate)
High quality folded sheet metal: High Quality block of ore, water, smithy hammer. In regular forge. Cost to make 10pp
Confirmed by Gzar Zigdog.
Medium Quality Folded Sheet Metal: Medium Quality Block of Ore + water + Smithy Hammer.
Medium Quality Block of Ore: 3 Medium Quality Large Bricks of Ore, Water (this recipe verified by Eforty Ounce), on vendor in High Hold Keep, near bank
medium quality large brick of ore: on vendor in High Hold keep near bank. 7pp Steamfont 45, -615 Godbin Strumharp Med Qual Ore and Dye Materials Vendor, Middle Windmill
Weapons:
Antonian Javalin = Medium Quality Sheet Metal + Flask of Water + Javelin Mold. 4.7pp damage 8, wt 1.5, delay 30, range 250 throwing weapon. Class: war, ranger, monk, bard, rogue, shaman. Race: all
Antonian Long Sword = Medium Quality Folded Metal Sheet + Long Blade Mold + Hilt Mold + Pommil Mold + Water. 17pp 1HS dam 8, wt 1.5, delay 28 race: hum barb HEF erudite. Class: war, pal, ranger, SHD, bard, rogue
Enchanted Antonian Emerald Long Sword = Enchanted Medium Quality(?) Folded Metal Sheet + Long Blade Mold + Hilt Mold + Pommil Mold + Vial of Distilled Mana + Royal Temper + Emerald 30pp
Enchanted Antonian RubyLong Sword = Enchanted Medium Quality(?) Folded Metal Sheet + Long Blade Mold + Hilt Mold + Pommil Mold + Vial of Distilled Mana + Royal Temper + Ruby 150pp
Full Plate Armor/Silver-electrum-gold-plat full plate armor:
Race: human, barb, erud, hef. Class: war clr pal shd bard. You pick one of the four metal bars types. Little comparative data available on stat differences that metals give.., where I have is given below.
Full Plate Bracers = Full Plate Bracer Mold + One High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 32pp AC 12 wt 4.4
Full Plate Breastplates = Full Plate Breastplate Mold + Three High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 108pp
Platinum Full Breastplate: Full Breasplate mold, smithy hammer, leather padding/backing, 3 HQ folded sheets of metal, Royal temper, Chain jointing, platinum bar. AC22 Wt 11 lighter in color than cleric planer armor and darker than Mithril.
Full Plate Boots = Full Plate Boot Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 63pp
Full Plate Collars = Full Plate Collar Mold + One High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 29pp AC 9 wt 4.5
Full Plate Cloaks = Full Plate Cloak Mold + Three High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 27pp
Full Plate Gauntlets = Full Plate Gauntlet Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 42pp
Full Plate Girdle = Full Plate Girdle Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 53pp
Full Plate Greaves = Full Plate Greave Mold + Three High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 97pp
Full Plate Helm = Full Plate Helm Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 63pp
Full Plate Pauldron = Full Plate Pauldron Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 84pp
Full Plate Vambraces = Full Plate Vambraces Mold + Two High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 58pp
Full Plate Visors = Full Plate Visor Mold + One High Quality Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium 41pp
ENCHANTED SILVER-ELECTRUM-GOLD-PLAT FULL PLATE
Class: BRD SHD WAR CLR PAL. Race: Human Barb Erudite Halfelf. The bars of metal need to be enchanted, along with the High Quality folded sheet metal. Otherwise the recipes are the same as for full plate. For full plate armor the cost of metal bar needs to be added to cost estimates noted on the recipe. Can be forged with any enchanted metal bar, silver electrum gold and platinum. Each has a different stat. It seems the success rate on full plate is at minimum 5:1 at 200+ skill.
Enchanted Full Plate Bracers = Full Plate Bracer Mold + One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Breastplates = Full Plate Breastplate Mold + Three High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Boots = Full Plate Boot Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Collars = Full Plate Collar Mold + One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Cloaks = Full Plate Cloak Mold + Three High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Gauntlets = Full Plate Gauntlet Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Girdle = Full Plate Girdle Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Greaves = Full Plate Greave Mold + Three High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Helm = Full Plate Helm Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Pauldron = Full Plate Pauldron Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Vambraces = Full Plate Vambraces Mold + Two High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water + Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium
Enchanted Full Plate Visor = Full Plate Visor Mold + One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet + water +Smithy Hammer + Leather Padding + Chain Jointing + Royal Temper + one bar of Enchanted Silver/Electrum/Gold/Platnium AC 7, charisma 2, wisdom 2, disease 2 (metal used for these stats not specified)
Enchanted Gold Full Plate Visor: Full Plate Visor Mold, One High Quality enchanted Folded Metal Sheet, Royal Temper, Smithy Hammer, Leather Backing, Enchanted Chain Jointing, Enchanted Gold Bar. Rokza/ Tribesmith Dragonforge reports: AC 7 Dex: 2 Cha: 2 Sv Poi: 2 wt: 2
Anonymous
Ok I know how it is supposed to work but where do I find those damn Evergreen Leaves?
I have heard they are lying on the group in Greater Faydark but after running around in GF for two hours I did not find a single leave.
Where can those be foun?
I have heard they are lying on the group in Greater Faydark but after running around in GF for two hours I did not find a single leave.
Where can those be foun?
Anonymous
G fay is correct. They are rare, and difficult to find. However, they are often auctioned for sale by those that find them. I would suggest auctioning to buy them. I don't know how much they cost though, sorry.
Anders Sacrifizen
the Tribunal (skill 175)
Anders Sacrifizen
the Tribunal (skill 175)
Anonymous
they cost about 5 to 10pp per leaf
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