Blacksmithing

Blacksmiths have the ability to forge their own armor and weapons both for personal use and for sale to others.

What are the best strategies for developing and using the blacksmithing skill? What items are the most and least useful ones to forge? Which classes are best suited to take up this trade? Can you make a profit off of blacksmithing, and if so how? Which cities are the best places to practice your trade?

Post your strategies on how to best use and develop the blacksmithing skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
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Elven Blood
# Jun 21 2001 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Elven Blood used in Shadow and Blood Temper for Dark elf and Ogre cultural armor.

How much should I sell it for?

Socamx
RE: Elven Blood
# Jun 22 2001 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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10pp each seems to be the norm. Charge any more, and the smithy will more than likely gather their own...
Getting strted
# Jun 20 2001 at 7:27 PM Rating: Default
Where can u get a smithing kit,hammer and tools?
RE: Getting strted
# Jun 21 2001 at 9:54 PM Rating: Decent
you should be able to get the hammer from the fellow that sells you the ore.. after that, you can make a file, as far as a kit.. i've gotten my cleric to skill lvl 135 and have never run across, nor ever needed a kit...
making sheets
# Jun 19 2001 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
sheets are made from 2 bricks and 1 flask as far as i can remember....but if your not getting skill advancement for doing them dont, just buy them....easier on the finger that way :)


celci moritesalutant
40 cleric
rodcet nife
165 Master Black
RE: making sheets
# Jul 01 2001 at 1:27 PM Rating: Default
You can buy sheet metal in Kelethin too. It's the guy at the top of the PoD lift.
which race is more profitable
# Jun 19 2001 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
I am looking to start a new charecter primarily for smithing... i was wondering what class/race would prove to result in the most profit
RE: which race is more profitable
# Jul 01 2001 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
If I were you I'd have a Ogre/Barbarian Warrior, or a Half Elf Bard
Troll Smithing
# Jun 18 2001 at 5:08 PM Rating: Default
Is there a Suit of armor or a weap that can be only made by troll.

For exemple , Ogre smith can craft Ogre War Plate suit which can be wear only by Troll and Oggre.

Thx already!
RE: Troll Smithing
# Jun 23 2001 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
There is a cultural forge in Grobb, but no cultural recipes are known to exsist for trolls at this time. Since the forge is there, it can be assumed that they'll get their own armor at some point. It may be an issue right now trying to decide what sort of ore and temper would suit the trolls, and what stats and appearance it should have. Definitely something to be looking for in the future.
RE: Troll Smithing
# Jun 21 2001 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
I'm under the impression that trolls are much like half elves.. and have no armor of their own.. but i think trolls can wear ogre plate.
Rivervale
# Jun 18 2001 at 10:32 AM Rating: Default
I saw the message below, but I still couldn't find it. Does anyone know where I might get some regular ore in rivervale? I'm a halfling so I really can't buy it from goblins (they're KOS to me). There must be places in town... Let me know if I would have to move to freeport or something... I would REALLY prefer staying where I am for now (I'm only lvl 8). Thanks a lot!
RE: Rivervale
# Jul 01 2001 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
I think i might've seen someone selling it in the mine, but I'm not sure
RE: Rivervale
# Jun 21 2001 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
lol, you don't buy from goblins.. you kill goblins, loot the ore. as far as i know i have never been able to locate a vendor that sell hq ore, *shrug* but the other fellow says you can in highpass hold.
RE: Rivervale
# Jun 27 2001 at 8:02 AM Rating: Default
In Freeport I know that you can buy Ore. It is in WFP I think, or maybe north, but it is a place called Groflahs Forge. It is not the man merchant but the woman merchant on the far side of the store. She sells lots of Ore. But, you WOULD have to move. Hope this helps.

Solandar
Lvl 7 Enchanter
Vazelle Server
*Almost* Master Smith
sheet metal
# Jun 17 2001 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
on some smithing strategy guide i got it says u can make sheet metal with a brick of ore and a flask of water. but in the forge it says i cannot combine these items. i AM using a small brick of ore not piece. my weight of 350 proves it hehe. please set my mind straight. oh yeah, should i just keep making toolboxes to 50? because my skill is 40 right now
RE: sheet metal
# Jun 20 2001 at 12:14 PM Rating: Default
Correction on my previous reply: Lanterns also require a bottle to make:-)


Balidin
Level 13
Paladin of
Mithaniel Marr
Master Smith(106)
RE: sheet metal
# Jun 20 2001 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
Yes, you should make toolboxes, yhey take you up to 51, and that's what I did and it wasn't too expensive either:-) afterwards make lanterns till 68:Lantern Mold, Metal Bits, Flask of Water(Foraged will not work)Hope this helps

Balidin
Level 13
Paladin of
Mithaniel Marr
Master Smith(106)
RE: sheet metal
# Jun 27 2001 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
You also need bottles to make Lanterns.
imbueing...
# Jun 16 2001 at 1:40 PM Rating: Default
Greetings,

i read somewhere, and have since lost the link, that Wizard's of Solusek Ro are able to Imbue a Fire Opal for the High Elven racial armor for a Solusek Ro version of the armor. i have tried the standard enchanted version recipe for elven chain and added in an imbued fire opal. results were that 'these items do not combine...'. sounds like it was a viscious rumor and nothing more. does anyone have any information to confirm or deny this information??

thanks!

Malinor -Order of Manveru
Master Smith (178)
Rodcet Nife
RE: imbueing...
# Jun 21 2001 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
as far as i know the only class able to imbue gems are clerics.. because it has to do with dieties and what not.
RE: imbueing...
# Jul 22 2001 at 7:04 AM Rating: Default
And Druids. Sounds like you didn't combine correctly, also I think Elven Cultural armor (seems mostly to be Chain-type) uses imbued Emeralds (Imbued by Druids who serve Tunare) and not Fire Opals.

Balidin
17th Level
Paladin of
Mithaniel Marr
And Master Smith of the
122nd rank
RE: imbueing...
# Jun 26 2001 at 5:47 PM Rating: Default
Shammies can imbue as well..depends on the gem
stupid question but...
# Jun 16 2001 at 7:06 AM Rating: Default
I am an aspiring dwarven smith, just wondering for some of the imbued bloodforge shields and what not, where do you get imbued emeralds?
RE: stupid question but...
# Jul 22 2001 at 7:06 AM Rating: Default
Get a Tunare-following Druid to Imbue them for you. The Druid spell Imbue Emerald is 29th level
RE: stupid question but...
# Jun 19 2001 at 1:54 PM Rating: Default
how do you forge
RE: stupid question but...
# Jun 16 2001 at 1:43 PM Rating: Default
get a cleric of the appropriate diety to imbue the gem for you. gems are often found on vendors somewhere or drop of mobs. depends on which gem you need. and i suspect the gems you find on vendors are often sold to them by players.

good luck!

Malinor
Rodcet Nife
Is this skill worthwhile?
# Jun 15 2001 at 3:41 AM Rating: Decent
I'm starting a new char, and i'm trying to pick a good skill for her [my first character (Febji of Morrel-Thule!!!) was a dedicated drunkard....brewing may not be the most useful skill but it is fun]..... i was going to do alchemy cuz im probubly gonna be a shammy, but i was reading on the alchemy msg board over there and it sounds like that skill isn't really worth-while... thought it would be, since only shammy's can do it and cuz u can make sow potions and whatnot, but i guess it has a high fail rate and costs a b-load to raise.... anyway, i was wondering if smithing was worth-while... if it actually made u some $$$ instead of being just a waste of time and $$$.... i heard that it was a desireable skill if u were planning on joining a guild cuz u could make stuff 4 them... heard it was an expensive skill but handy in the long run... dont know though....

also, i'm strictly an iksar player and was wondering if the smithing impliments were difficult to find for an iksar... ive seen molds and such being sold in cab but no water flasks.... hmm, maybe im just not looking hard enough...

any help would be greatly appreciated....Thanx...


RE: Is this skill worthwhile?
# Jun 27 2001 at 8:14 AM Rating: Default
YES! This skill is one of most profitable skills in the game. You will need about 200-300pp to start out though, depending on your server. It is a long road to mastery, but once you are there you will be glad you did it.
As for the Iksar thing, I know that the best Race/Class combo is a High Elf enhanter with their naturally high Inteligence, Wisdom and Charisma, but if your strictly an Iksar player, then choose a class that has high Intelligence, Wisdom, and (if you can find one) Charisma. Hope this helps!

Solandar
Lvl 7 Enchanter
Vazelle Servr
*Almost* Master Smith
RE: Is this skill worthwhile?
# Jun 20 2001 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
The water flasks are found in West Cabilis in the merchants area to the right of the Necro Guild. The components are found in East Cabilis in the Merchants area beside the forge that is next to the Inn.

If anyone is on Errolisi Marr, and wants to group/chat/say hi, feel free. My warrior Iksar's name is Branesmack!
RE: Is this skill worthwhile?
# Jun 17 2001 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
as an iskar you can forage water pods. do brewing as well and you can put 4 water pods in a brewing keg and make a flask of water.
skill of 26
# Jun 13 2001 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
i have a skill of 26 how can i get this up faster? i really want to be selling banded soon
RE: skill of 26
# Jun 14 2001 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
My personal preference is to make tool boxes : 1 metal bit + 1 flask of water.. should take you to around skill of 50, after that.. lanterns: 1 bottle 1 lantern casing mold 1 metal bit and 1 flask of water... then come skewers: 1 metal bit 1 skewer mold 1 flask of water... then sewing kits.. 1 metal bit 1 thimble mold 1 neeld mold 1 flask of water. after that you should be well ready to make banded.. in fact some banded items will already be trivial to you.
Good luck
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 11:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Does anyone know where I can buy an Oak staff, or is it the one used in Fletching? If anyone know the answer, please let me know.
Cultural forges
# Jun 12 2001 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
I am a half-elf and with all the specialized forges I am feeling left out with a smithing skill of 175. I was wondering if the cultural forges can be used by a half breed. Am I allowed to use one or the other forge, both forges, or neither elf nor human forges. I know being a half breed i get certain disadvantages, but limiting my skill that I have worked on so hard seems a true kick in the face.
RE: Cultural forges
# Jun 19 2001 at 3:21 PM Rating: Default
I sympathize as a Half-Elf myself. I don't know the entire answer, but there is a human forge in South Qeynos, and I was unable to use it. I have not yet tried an Elf forge, but I fear the same will be true. Anyone help here?
RE: Cultural forges
# Jun 21 2001 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
half elves.. unfortunately have no racial forge, because they have no racial armor, because for some obsene reason, verant has decided that they have no culture of their own.
Cultural forges
# Jun 12 2001 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
I am a half-elf and with all the specialized forges I am feeling left out with a smithing skill of 175. I was wondering if the cultural forges can be used by a half breed. Am I allowed to use one or the other forge, both forges, or neither elf nor human forges. I know being a half breed i get certain disadvatages, but limiting my skill that I have worked on so hard seems a true kick in the face.
Newby info
# Jun 11 2001 at 10:34 PM Rating: Default
Hi all, where do I find high quality ore around Rivervale (I guess that's how you get HQ metal bits)? I need them for smithing Vale studded armor (any hints on that too?). Also, anyone know anything about Imbue clothing...heard it was cool?

Thank you!
Striving Halfling Druid
RE: Newby info
# Jun 14 2001 at 4:03 PM Rating: Default
Whoot, have an answer for ya. The ores can be purchased from a merchant going to the basement of highkeep (ie:down the hall from the bank), or off of several drops nearby. These include the Mudite's and goblins in Xorbb, the goblins in Runnyeye and the goblins in Highpass Keep basement. Good luck on the little peoples studded armors.
RE: Newby info
# Jun 14 2001 at 11:47 AM Rating: Default
The only place i know of to get High Quality ore is either in runnyeye off the goblins.. which is close to you in rivervale.. or the goblins in solusek.. good luck.
LVL 30
# Jun 10 2001 at 8:38 PM Rating: Default
I currently reached lvl 30 in smithing And I need to know what kinds of things I can make in order to increase skill. I also would like to make something that I can sell because so far I have used about 100pp on smithing and would like to start getting some of that money back as soon as I can thanx
RE: LVL 30
# Jun 14 2001 at 1:45 AM Rating: Default
well, take all those wonderful metal bits you made and make tool boxes until about skill lvl 51, then go to making lanterns.
"Smithing Bible" I once found linked form here...
# Jun 10 2001 at 6:46 AM Rating: Default
Once upon a time as a young smith, I was looking around for more information. I came here and did some reading, and someone had posted a link to something affectionately referred to as the smithing bible. It was a site run by a person who had compiled a huge amount of tradeskilling info in smithing, but I've lost the link over time and was hoping htat someone here may remember it.

If any of you happen to have it, could you repost it please? I've been searching and tracking down links for a few days and can't seem to find it again.

Thanks for your time. :)

Peace,
-Aerich
RE:
# Jun 10 2001 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
http://www.sbchuzzah.com/

good luck!
Me= MORON
# Jun 09 2001 at 10:57 PM Rating: Default
ok...... i admit it.. i'm a moron.. but..
i have a question. i have looked everywhere i can possibly think to look, in guides and in supply lists all over the internet.... and i am left wondering where everyone gets their medium quality ore.. go ahead.. laugh... but please tell me.. thanx
RE: Me= MORON
# Jun 11 2001 at 8:25 AM Rating: Default
Never mind all.. I found it.. :)
Dwarf smithing
# Jun 09 2001 at 5:37 AM Rating: Decent
I just made my first cultural item:
Dwarven Battle Shield of Brell Serilis
AC 14, Sta +2, Wis +2, SV Fire +5

Ingredients are as the merchant said:
Block of Brellium ore, Dwarven Smithy Hammer, Small Kite Shield mold, Earthen Temper (for regular dwarven shield stop here), also an Imbued Ruby.

I ran all over until I found an enchanter to enchant 3 large bricks of Brellium, then I combined them into an enchanted block, but the forge didn't accept it. I also tried making the block into an enchanted folded sheet, and that recipe was not valid either. Apparently the shield (and I assume weapons) can't be improved with enchanted ore like the armor can.

My skill is currently 173, and this shield is not trivial.
Grobb forge
# Jun 08 2001 at 5:44 AM Rating: Default
I have a level 8 shadowknight troll, and im just starting smithing. Well if i try to make anything in the forge in grobb, it says it wont accept this combination of items, please go to another forge. It appears the closest forge near me is the one in the Ogre city on the other side of Feerott. I went there, and ive made some Tarnished weapons, and some metal bits, so why wont the one in Grobb work for me? am i doing something wrong? thanks, jestyr
RE: Grobb forge
# Jun 14 2001 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
It's possible, my friend that you found yourself the racial forge... And i believe that only racial armor can be made in a racial forge. :) but i'm not sure... someone correct me if i'm wrong.. thanx. :)
Dying
# Jun 06 2001 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
HOw do you dye things ive seen a topic on here about it and i forgot how to. Please tell me im interested in learning.
RE: Dying
# Jun 14 2001 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
i think you just put the dye in with the other components of the recipe.
RE: Dying
# Jun 16 2001 at 7:00 AM Rating: Default
You have tp get an alchemist to make a base die which you can then combine with resin to lighten it and put the piece of armor to be dyed with a jar of acid and a jar of laquer (sp?) and the die back in the forge
RE: Dying
# Jun 20 2001 at 12:24 PM Rating: Default
Why is everyone talking about dying?(Dying, RE:Dying, etc.)
I don't WANT do die! Noone should!:-)
Full sets of plate mail
# Jun 06 2001 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
What should i sell full sets for.
RE: Full sets of plate mail
# Jun 07 2001 at 7:50 AM Rating: Good
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It all depends. Some folks charge by the sheet, 50-75pp/sheet being the average. Others,like me, charge by the AC, 10-15pp/ac. Still others have a more complex system involving the difficulties in smithing the individual pieces.
skill vs level
# Jun 06 2001 at 9:36 AM Rating: Default
I know this is a dumb question, but is your skill limited by your level? Can you be a master smith at a low level?
RE: skill vs level
# Jun 09 2001 at 12:15 PM Rating: Default
Hello!
One of my characters ,Fatangi - a lvl 9 High Elf Enchanter, is a Master Blacksmith at lvl 175. He got help from another of my higher lvl characters ,with about 200pp, to start up smithing. After skill lvl 125 he started make money on banded armor and, since then, running on his own.





RE: skill vs level
# Jun 06 2001 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
techically , u can
But smithing is expensive, especially when u are skilling up.
Torsk Holynite, Ad Gloriam
Dwarf paladin of the 40th Season
Lanys T'Vyl
Starting Smithing
# Jun 05 2001 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
For all you master smiths out there, I've a humble question: How did you get started?
I can break this down to a few things, how do you attain smithing tools like a smithing kit and hammer and tongs? Also, what did you do to start out raising your skill and did it raise it quickly or take several ages. I've tried fletching, but it just doesn't seem to click for me, and your input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Saraldar
15th level Paladin of Mithaniel Marr
Vazaelle Server
RE: Starting Smithing
# Jun 06 2001 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
When I started to smith, I found some guides that are posted earlier on, printed the best two. I followed the guides, actually there were quite a few, one with a detailed fast track to skill gain. I followed that guide when i had excess plat. I followed the long hard tedious way of making bits & then items, when i had the time & little plat.
Untill i could make banded armour at relatively high sucsess rates, Then i started marketing the Banded armour, made enough plat selling banded to fast track until i reached lvl 175 & started making FS Plate.
Torsk Holynite, Ad Gloriam
Dwarf Pally, 40th season
Lanys T'Vyl
oh, the bible of smithing is @
www.sbchuzzah.com/smithing-1.htm
I Understand the author died & this legacy remains
arrow head
# Jun 05 2001 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
Is the a recipe to make arrowheads other than field points...is so what is it? And where are the molds?
RE: arrow head
# Jun 14 2001 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
yes, hooked arrowheads: 3 small bricks of ore, file, flask of water
silver tipped arrowheads: 1 silver bar, block of mq ore, flask of water
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