had one drop great maul of hatred. and other stuff. like nadox/torgrin, mobs seem to share loot tables for certain things they also have a ton of hp. most of the stuff here does. drop curse/poison/dis/epic (lv65) dots on em and have ba4 and still have to repeat curse at least 2 times and poison. plus keep em rooted and heal pet at least once with HoT. probly more effecient ways but i got dot pres. book from inny so what the heck. but still they take alot of punishment. the live ones a bit easier to keep rooted an resist a bit less. the dead ones break root a ton