Red Dragonscale Armor  

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Rating:
*****
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Time:5 hours
Level:45
Maximum Level:85
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Loot
Quest Items:
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Era:Ruins of Kunark
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
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Entered: Fri Jul 13 10:48:47 2001
Modified: Mon Jun 24 14:34:26 2013
Karam Dragonforge is located at +4105, +920, 4.51 in the Mountain of Rathe (the "human inn").

What faction and standing are required to receive this quest?

You say, 'Hail, Karam Dragonforge'

Karam Dragonforge says 'Welcome, _____. I have a number of platemail items, if you are interested. I am also a master [smith] of exotic materials such as dragon scales.'

You say, 'A master smith of what?'

Karam Dragonforge says 'Dragon scales make terrfic armor. I can make a [white dragonscale cloak] and [red dragonscale armor]. I have not seen any other colored dragon variants around. But if you see any, be sure to let me know. I would be interested in what can be made from their scales.'

You say, 'What red dragonscale armor?'

Karam Dragonforge says 'So you have a red dragon scale, eh? Well, I am wanting very much to return to my fiancee and propose to her. If you could aid me in quickly returning to her with a bit of spare change, we could have a deal. Heck, for the armor, a vial of swirling smoke and 1000 platinum coins is a bargain!'

After handing in the Red Dragon Scales, a Vial of Swirling Smoke (generic item bought from numerous vendors) and 1,000pp:

Karam Dragonforge says 'Wonderful! Now I can get back to my fiance instantly! Isn't Love grand! As for your red dragonscale armor, it is all done. Farewell!'

Receive Red Dragonscale Armor, a plate BP.
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Faction
# Jun 24 2013 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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You do need faction to get Karam Dragonforge to open the quest to you. Don't know which factions, but I assume the same you get from the CB Belts quest. So instead, my Half-Elf Pally used an 'Essence of Dwarf' and he offered me the quest.

Edited, Jun 24th 2013 2:49pm by loepoe
Missing Quest Dialogue
# Aug 28 2009 at 12:14 AM Rating: Decent
Karam Dragonforge is at /loc 4107.71, 918.43, 4.51

You say, 'Hail, Karam Dragonforge'

Karam Dragonforge says 'Welcome, ____. I have a number of platemail items, if you are interested. I am also a master [smith] of exotic materials such as dragon scales.'

You say, 'smith of what'

Karam Dragonforge says 'Dragon scales make terrfic armor. I can make a [white dragonscale cloak] and [red dragonscale armor]. I have not seen any other colored dragon variants around. But if you see any, be sure to let me know. I would be interested in what can be made from their scales.'

You say, 'what red dragonscale armor'

Karam Dragonforge says 'So you have a red dragon scale, eh? Well, I am wanting very much to return to my fiancee and propose to her. If you could aid me in quickly returning to her with a bit of spare change, we could have a deal. Heck, for the armor, a vial of swirling smoke and 1000 platinum coins is a bargain!'


After handing in Red Dragon Scales:

Karam Dragonforge says 'Wonderful! Now I can get back to my fiance instantly! Isn't Love grand! As for your red dragonscale armor, it is all done. Farewell!'

There are no faction adjustments.
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Red Dragon Scale
# Aug 08 2002 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Does this quest still use the red dragon scales or was it changed to use a red dragon hide? It doesn't make any sense to me why you would modify the quest that uses WDS(one epic) but not change the quest that uses the RDS(two epics).
What faction???
# Jul 04 2002 at 3:25 PM Rating: Default
Dragonforge cons aprehesively to me, he will not speak to me if I hail him. Anyone know what faction he is so I can do some quests or kill ceratain things for him to like me??? This info would really help, thank you.

Sphinks Riddle, 32 Ranger
Terris-Thule server
"Legions of Retribution"
What faction???
# Jul 04 2002 at 3:20 PM Rating: Default
WANT IT!!! :(
# Jun 30 2002 at 2:29 PM Rating: Default
OMG i would LOVE to have this on me lvl 24 Warrior (woodelf Agnostic ) It would KIK **** soo much.....right now im wearing a Netherbian Chitin Breastplate......



Liolnila BraveBlade
24 warrior

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rofl
# May 13 2002 at 2:13 PM Rating: Default
Seriously now people..

Red Dragonscale Armor: AC: +21 Str: +20 Magic Resist: +10 Fire Resist: +10

Barbed Ringmail: AC: 30 Str: +9 HP: +50 (30? not sure)

On Xev:
Red Dragonscale for 20k >_<
Ringmail for 9k

So 11k for a loss of 9 AC and 50hp and a gain of 11 str and some saves? I'd pay at most 12k for this, anything else is insanely stupid.
RE: rofl
# May 25 2002 at 1:28 PM Rating: Default
You obviously don't raid much. AC don't mean **** when your dealing with spells hitting you that are fire,ice, etc. based. Price? Well, I don't know about it being right or not, but resists are THE most important thing in certain situations. Yes AC is king, but resists will keep you alive :)
RE: rofl
# Dec 12 2004 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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People who make stupid remarks just to sound cool really bug me, Mr. Anonymous...

People like you should really learn a lesson...I admit, you could have been nice about your post with the little smiley face, but when you say...

Quote:
You obviously don't raid much. AC don't mean **** when your dealing with spells hitting you that are fire,ice, etc. based. Price? Well, I don't know about it being right or not, but resists are THE most important thing in certain situations. Yes AC is king, but resists will keep you alive :)


(what I'm talking about is in bold) That automatically labels you noob. when you say the other bolds, please just say "In my opinion, I think resists are THE most important things in certain situations."

By saying in my opinion, you seem to have a less chance of being called a noob for thinking you know everything. Even if you present true facts, it's just how you do it.
RE: rofl
# May 23 2003 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I play a 51 troll warrior and resists are nice, but what happens if you don't resist? Hps are what saves me in almost every situation. More hps = better. I'm still using barbed ringmail until I can snag a thurg BP or have enough saved for a fierce heraldic. Sure, 50 hps is not a lot for one slot, but if every slot has 50 hps it makes a very noticeable difference. The only thing I would trade barbed ringmail out for is something with the same or higher ac and more hps =)

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YESSS
# Apr 20 2002 at 11:45 PM Rating: Default
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To me they are i need that 20 STR i will give ya 100p for one
RE: YESSS
# Jul 17 2002 at 11:26 AM Rating: Default
200PP? hmmm, i dunno, kinda steep. How bout 150? i mean, sure, these items are good, but you only have to kill an uber dragon to get them, how hard can that be? (famous last words)
RE: YESSS
# Jul 12 2002 at 5:27 AM Rating: Default
Ooooooo....you'll pay a mighty 100pp for this BP? Where can I meet you! While we're speaking, I also got a CoF off of Naggy...want to buy that from me for 200pp? ..............
hehe
# Mar 13 2002 at 6:23 PM Rating: Default
hmmm looted 3 scales today are they worth anything??
red bp
# Feb 16 2002 at 9:49 AM Rating: Default
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all i no is on tunare the scales are sallin for 3-5k for warror / bard epic now so 3-5k plus 1.5k for smoke plus 1k = 7.5k at most bp on tunare is 9k u can make 1.5k on this quest over and over and over u get my idea

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RE: red bp
# May 16 2002 at 1:50 PM Rating: Default
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ha ha ha on tunare scales are goin for 9-16k...
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RE: red bp
# Apr 30 2002 at 3:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Think about it. For 1500pp, you have to acquire a red dragon scale, then the smoke, then go and give the guy the quest item, then sell the BP. On Saryrn, this thing is constantly auctioned, and I don't see many WTB. So, if it takes you two days to find the scale, then two days to sell the BP (that's just a conservative estimate), that means you'd make about 1500pp every 4 days. In those 4 days you could just go to Velks and get a shot at some CC armor (and get XP in the process), go to HS and camp some Bloodpoints and dragon sashes (and get XP in the process), go to ME and camp some shaded weapons (and get XP in the process), go to WW and kill some lowbie dragons for dragon armor (and get a little XP in the process), or just go to Rathe Mountains and kill the giants. Not to mention gems/netted kelp in SG, velium weapons in DN, IGS in the Hole, or any of a number of good money/XP camps. Any one of those camps (with the exception of the giants) could make you 2-15kpp+ in the same 4 days, and the items would be much easier to get rid of. And if you didn't notice a theme, all (with the exception of the giants) would net you quite a bit of XP.

Edited, Tue Apr 30 04:16:19 2002
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Scale?
# Feb 08 2002 at 11:38 PM Rating: Decent
Hey peeps....need some input rather quickly here. Got a guy who is gonna sell me a "red dragon scales" for about 10k. Is this the same thing as "a red dragon scale" used in the warrior/bard epic? And if not--->What are "red dragon scales for"?
scale for bard epic too
# Jan 24 2002 at 5:37 PM Rating: Default
Red scale also used in bard epic
Takalon Soulgrinder
# Jan 09 2002 at 12:58 PM Rating: Default

Pretty strange how this BP is 15k, and the scale costs 20k, man Tunare has some jacked up prices
RE: Takalon Soulgrinder
# Jan 12 2002 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Not when you take into account that
1. since Velious the BP is not quite so uber anymore
2. the scale is a WAR epic quest component

More people want the scale for epic than to waste on a BP
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 07 2002 at 1:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK peeps check it out. . . i just did this quest as a twink item for my rogue. . . i must say it is AWESOME now the scale is DROPABLE exact name is "Red Dragon Scales" weight 2.5 stones and are MAGIC nothing else. i bought mine since my chances of getting one as a necro are slim i bought my potion in kelethin with my druid AMIABLE conn no charisma buff for 1299plat then it was off to rathe mountains found Karam and hailed him he says something about armor you go through the BS he wants the Red Dragon Scale, Vial of Swirling Smoke, and 1000plat i assume he needs the vial of swirling smoke to gate back to his "true love" and propose to her and have enough cash for the honeymoon. . . well ya give him all that and its a done deal he gets his **** and you get your BP Stats 21ac 20str 10svm 10svf awesome BP and major bragging rights on a lvl 1 rogue =P Peace Out All
RE: Everything you need to know
# Feb 15 2002 at 2:43 AM Rating: Default
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You, sir, are an idiot.

Do you know how much a warrior or bard would have given for that scale? Lemme say, you could've gotten a LOT more than a 21ac, 20str, 10magic/fire breastplate for the same money...

The scale will fetch you upwards of around 20k or so, server dependant. Is this tunic worth, well, 22k to you? I would hope not... you could get a FAR superior BP for around 10k

The reason the scale goes for so much is because it's used for the warrior AND bard epic quests. Enjoy your breastplate though, and realize what it cost you.
Not only Dragons drop this Red Scale..
# Dec 01 2001 at 11:26 PM Rating: Decent
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There is a NPC by the name of Nortlav the Scalekeeper in the Hole. Hes a lvl 52-55 Erudite SK. Hes a lil tuff but he drops the Red dragon salce that you could possibly use for the BP. But if you think about it, Warrior Epics are pretty much a status symbol now since Velium weapons that drop in the hihger lvl dungeons (ToV) make your epic pretty much useless. Besides its nice to have something that you dont see very often. Ya most will think your an idiot for using your scale for this but hey, its your scale. Do what ever you please with it, ppl need to mind their own business and start worring about themselves.
Please everyone relaxe a little
# Nov 28 2001 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
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ok Look at this. I'm a ranger. I would love to have the scale to get the armor, as I think every persone who can use the armor would. I understand that every warrior wants there epic, as every class what's ther epic. But this is a real simple problem to fix. Before you go on the raid, ask the raid leader what the loot police is. If a guild is hosting the event and says that the scale will only be roled on by the warrior's in there guild, and you don't like that, DON'T GO ON THE RAID. But if he says that everyone can roll on the scale, and you don't like that DON'T GO ON THE RAID. Simple. No makes anyone go on a dragon raid. And the fact that this is used for the warrior epic DOESN'T make it warriors only. I't not like the Tolans, or the Cobalt or any of the other class spicefic armor that drops. So please stop argueing here, warriors are never going to be convinced that others should roll for it, and the other class are never going to be convinced that it's warrior only. So please just find the loot police of the raid leader, and make sure that everyone that might be going on the raid knows the loot police, and if you don't like the one there useing DON'T GO.
Red Scale
# Nov 10 2001 at 1:16 AM Rating: Default
To the Smart **** that thinks every guild has Warriors. Well, you are wrong. This is a nice piece of armor to say the least. Pre-Vel. its Top of the Line. Rogues I think would do best with this for that handy lil BS they do so well with. Good luck getting the scale. Oh, and it can be looted of the Rogue guildmasters corpse in Qeynos as well. Not the BP but the red dragon Scale. Still testing the pick pocket idea on him. Skill still lil' low.
RE: Red Scale
# Nov 12 2001 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
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The only guild that wouldn't have a warrior would be one that is very small, say under 10 (which is impossible to have), or a guild that is unbalanced and thereby not capable of doing a dragon such as even Naggy.

Warriors are a very common class. Any guild without them is simply a group of friends that don't have any warrior friends, which is an extremely tough type of guild to find.

ANY guild capable of taking on any of the dragons the scale drops from WILL have at least one warrior, and doubtlessly will have at least one warrior in need of the scale because, well, everybody wants to get their epic.

Anyways, anybody who is not a warrior and wants to roll on this if their guild rolls on items is GREEDY and STUPID. Gee, you're a rogue eh? Oh, look, we're doing a raid on Kedge. Killed phinny, oh look, that robe for your epic, it dropped, but all you casters, you can have a shot at it too, rogues don't need their epic!

Come on, THINK before you POST, warriors are common. Warriors need the scale for their epic. The warrior epic is more important and valueable than this, comparitively, POS armor.
RE: Red Scale
# Aug 11 2002 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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ur right most gnarly guilds have quite a few wars but they are not AS essential as u make them seem for raids(dont get me wrong sometimes wars are only one that can do it)...my guild on Sullen zek uses SKs more then warriors on raids (we do use warriors when they are aviable) but Sks get the job done when they have to providing our clerics are on top of healing.

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RE: Red Scale
# Mar 10 2002 at 5:02 AM Rating: Default
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I take it ur a warrior scotty ?
This armor isnt a POS i wore it up until lvl 49..
RE: Red Scale
# Jan 23 2002 at 6:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well I hate to break it to you but Warriors are overrated. My guild has 54 members and only one warrior, a 52 Ogre. I'm only a decently Equiped Half-Elf Pally..49th level. And when dueling the warrior and I are pretty neck in neck. Of the few times we Dueled, the only thing that seemed to affect who one was if he got a bunch of good crits in, cause my Lay on Hands actually gave me more HP's than he had. I'm wanderign off topic but my point was this.. Warriors arnt neccisary to raid. Are they a better meatshield than a Pally or SK? Yes only slightly. Are they benificial to raids? Most definatly! Are they Required? Definatly not.. Now I do understand warriors get alot better once they can use their diciplines and that changes alot of things. But still they are not required.
I just got agravated when it seems like somone is saying we are no good cause we dont have warriors, when I can take out warriors the same level as me... Its actually fun to duel them. When i'm at 25% health and they are a little below 50%, they useually start giving me the whole good fight..yadda yadda yadda routine. till i lay on hands and suddenly I'm at max HP and they have less then half. Most often the only thing I hear after that is "crap".... Sorry turned into a rant. shutting up now. =P
RE: Red Scale
# Jul 11 2002 at 3:23 AM Rating: Default
Oh thats right, without your LoH the Warrior would own you. So as you say "i'm at 25% health and they are a little below 50%, they useually start giving me the whole good fight..yadda yadda yadda routine. till i lay on hands and suddenly I'm at max HP and they have less then half" you realize, oh **** LoH isnt up and get your **** kicked.

just my 2cp
RE: Red Scale
# Jan 15 2003 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes, the warrior would probably beat the Pally without LoH. However, LoH is part of what balances the different classes. The warrior would also beat a wizard if a wizard didn't use spells, a bard that didn't use songs, etc. And, I'm willing to bet, most classes would beat the warrior if he didn't use weapons.
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RE: Red Scale
# May 18 2002 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey Mr. Paladin, why don't you get a cleric to heal you both after fights and go at it 5 or 10 straight times and tell us who wins the most fights. What is the cycle time on LoH again?
RE: Red Scale
# Feb 02 2002 at 12:35 AM Rating: Default
Lol .. try fighting a mob that quads for 750 (3000 pts of damage a round) without warriors who have the defensive discipline, and see how long you last Aalexander, rofl ...

Bulvai
58 Myrmidon RN
RE: Red Scale
# Jan 25 2002 at 2:19 AM Rating: Default
ok sorry to break this to you, but you seem to be basing your whole argument on you being able to take down one 52 warrior, I'm just here ta tell you that a properly equipped warrior can first off wipe the floor with anything less then a totally uber 49pally, and also that just because your even in a duel does not mean that your superior in a group or that your skills can be more widely used, warriors are there only to keep little pali's like you alive since your lay hands pops how often? yeah thought so. if you think warriors are over rated tell that to your next warrior on a raid and see what happens when he blows you off and leaves

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RE: Red Scale
# Jan 08 2002 at 7:29 AM Rating: Default
LOL try telling that to the People who Kill Quilliman, they can't have the cloak because its part of the Mage Epic, I personally know mages that have tried for 3 months, im going on 7 days ...
Idiots
# Oct 13 2001 at 9:50 AM Rating: Default
If ANYONE I knew got this, I would beat their ass. Skipping a warrior epic for this piece of **** is just wrong. And if yu killed one of these dragons, you almost definetly had a warr with you. As for people wondering about the price on this, it's because it's the highest droppable str bp (which means more backstabs for a rogue). But still, even with that if you get this item, you suck and I hope your local guild warrior kicks your ass... And last thing, people complaining about iksars not being able to use, well iksars suck don't play one. Or quit **** but I would suggest the not playing one idea.
RE: Idiots
# Feb 24 2002 at 11:03 AM Rating: Default
Hey, idiots boy. I've seen a SINGLE naggy raid. Sure, only one. A rogue got the scale. Reason? 8 warriors on the raid, no bards. Every warrior had the epic already. What, they gonna take another one? Kick his ass, brightboy.
RE: Idiots
# Sep 29 2002 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
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good god man calm down! so there are some exceptions if every warrior has his epic, jeez
RE: Idiots
# Apr 04 2002 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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well....for your info, on alot of raids, some of the higher ranking people in guild will loot the scale if no one needs atm....that way when a warrior/bard comes along that DOES need it, its awaiting them, instead of wasting it on this bp which sucks, because think of it this way, tree weave is 25ac 10str, only half the str 4 more ac, and it only cost you 1k. whereas this bp that you guys are ranting and raving about costs 1k without considering the scale and the vial....have fun with your crappy breastplate, as for me...i'll use scale for my epic
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 19 2001 at 1:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OH BEAT ME BIG BOY
#Anonymous, Posted: Sep 28 2001 at 3:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i think the vile ca also drop of of steam elementals in steamfont i am not suer if it true or not but i think it is they are only level 11 15 ) someone check it out
RE: steamfont ?
# Nov 15 2001 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
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You are thinking of swirling mist, for moonlight temper( elven cultural armor), vials of swirling smoke are made by shamans or bought from vendors
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#Anonymous, Posted: Sep 28 2001 at 3:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i think the vile ca also drop of of steam elementals in steamfont i am not suer if it true or not but i think it is they are only level 11 15 ) someone check it out
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 31 2001 at 4:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sells for 20-30K ?
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 25 2001 at 2:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) RA RA
Dragon scales! =)
# Aug 22 2001 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
::chuckle:: Well, folks.. it may not be the best BP in the game, but it sure is a nice one. The BP goes for about 18 - 25k on Druzzil Ro. I acquired a "Red Dragon Scales" dropped from one of the red draggys for a Chetari Bonecrafted Shield (15 - 20k item on Druzzil Ro). I dunno about you, but if I cannot get 30 - 50k from the scale itself from folks doing their epics who don't want to wait for a roll in their guild or their guild to be big enough.. then I'll simply make a BP for my rogue. Come on, folks. +20 STR is decent. =) This item IS droppable, it IS expensive, and it IS sellable.

As for the vial of swirling smoke.. my suggestion is to find a vendor you are ally with, or at least amiable. Easiest one I found is the gal near the dark elf bank in Neriak... for 15 - 20 stacks of red wine in the infamous red wine quest, you can be ally with the "DarkBargainers".. the faction she's on :) Get your local inky or enchanter friend to do it.. give em a nice cha buff. Make sure their cha is over 100 for the best price. Talk to your local enchanter or shaman for that one. You will save money if you do it right. ;) For Kyiri, the prices vary between 1050 and 1300-ish for the vial... which, BTW, has a single charge of Gate, and will vanish and gate you if you click on it. (That's what expendable means.) :) That is with 130 - 140 cha, and amiable faction in her wood elf home in Kelethin.

For the folks who say this BP sux0r... who can resist a half elf rogue smirking at you in full red? ;) (Rubicite compliments this very nicely.) I know that even while Velious armor is better.. this was PRE Velious armor. None of my little alts will be getting Velious quest armor for a long, long time :) And 20 STR is nice for almost any melee class :) If you are missing stats because of a BP you are wearing... go buy some decent jewelry to fix it ;)

Just *my* 2cp :)

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RE: Dragon scales! =)
# Sep 02 2001 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I might also point out that 10 MR and FR are quite nice for them fire dragons too (though speaking from a person whose guild is able to do epic quests, I'd rather go for those spiffy blades myself)
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# Aug 20 2001 at 4:01 AM Rating: Decent
You say this is crap? You do realise this quest was around before epics right? Does that bring a sense of reality to you? Price for a scale would have gone up because of introducing epics if this scale is even droppable. It might be ac21 but I think that +20 str might make it somewhat useful. I don't know about you but I still see a fair few ppl running around in Rygorr breasst plates and I have a feeling the +10 str is a major factor there. I am sure if other people besides the epic questers could get hold of a scale they would do this quest.

Just my 2cp worth at people saying this thing is rubbish without looking past the ac.
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 1:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) People want to waste THIS much time getting an AC 21 TUNIC???????
Scale
# Jul 17 2001 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Is this the same scale that classes use for their epic quests? If so I dont thin you will see anymore of these ever being quested!
RE: Scale
# Aug 09 2001 at 9:55 AM Rating: Default
It is and unless no warrior or bard go on a Naggy raid one time -- heh Look I made a funny -- or all the members of the raid have a scale/epic -- heh another funny -- no one from any class but those are going to get the scale.

And as far as I remember the scale is No Drop, so no one will be selling this.
PC on one of these?
# Jun 22 2001 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
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does it still work?
# Jun 12 2001 at 8:10 AM Rating: Default
some guy said that they took it out of the game since it was too good.

is this correct?

i dont want to waste approx. 2500pp and risk my life slaying a dragon to discover that the quest is broke...

please confirm that it either works or doesnt.

thank u
Which one
# May 21 2001 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
Is it called Dragon Scales but is red or is it called Red Dragon Scales when you right click it
Scale
# May 10 2001 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I wonder if anyone has ever tried to use the red wurmscale(s) that can be purchased from vendors? Wouldbe an expensive experiment if it failed but a wonderful result if it somehow worked.
35 warrior
# May 08 2001 at 9:03 PM Rating: Default
ok I know I sound stupid but could I 30 warrior get this by buying the scale from someone? how much money would I have to expect to pay for all the stuff including a scale or looting rights for it? and is this guy kos to dark races like ogre troll iksar etc..? thanx
RE: 35 warrior
# May 09 2001 at 4:33 AM Rating: Good
Heres the Deal 35 Warrior.
Scale Cost: 20,000pp-30,000pp
Scale is for the Bard/Warrior Epic so it os very Hard to get off of someone.

Drops off of Lord Nagafen, And he is KoS to Everyone. there is no Looting Rights Becuase the Scale ISNT no drop. Scale also Drops of 2 other Mobs.(I will leave that to you, 35 warrior to find out) It Takes 25+ People to take this Guy Down, Depending on the Skill of the People and the Leadership of the Raid Leader. After the Raid it is rolled for.(If not called for by a Guild member).

ok After you get that! (if you get it)lol. you will have to Buy a Vial of Swirling Smoke FROM THE VENDORS! Get a Chanter to Buy it for 1050pp.

Next Step is to have 1000 extra pp. Go to Rathe Mounts and Talk to the Dude. he said he will make you some Dragonsclae Armor if you Bring him ---> one red dragonscale, one vial of swirling smoke, and 1000pp. he needs it to Impress his Hoe or Something. I heard he was a Dwarven Pimp.

So! Mister 35 Warrior! there you go! it will cost you 22,050pp-32,050pp!

Or you can Buy the BP for 30kpp!

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RE: 35 warrior
# May 09 2001 at 4:39 AM Rating: Default
Oh! and dont get Ripped! here are the Stats on the SCALE:

Magic Item

Weight:2.5

Name: Red Dragonscale

Looks Like a Jujubee (Like the ones off the Wolf pups in Kunark)
vial
# Apr 12 2001 at 5:02 PM Rating: Default
you can buy the vial in river vale too.
Lonzo
# Apr 10 2001 at 3:11 AM Rating: Default
the vial can be purchased in Gfay at the vendor near the bank
where to buy vial
# Mar 11 2001 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
i went to FP and found one of these for sale in the shammy supply store, the store is near the monk guild
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 05 2000 at 10:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ahhh... one of my friends just got one of these... I'm gonna be keepin an eye out for this one in EC
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 12 2000 at 3:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I think I can speak for everyone on this topic. Please people when you know that someone has been camping for a long time, don't pester them about when they are going to leave. Don't sit down next to them to "wait" until they are done. You might be waiting a long time and then the time it takes for you to complete your camp on top of that. The NPC will always respawn and will always be there. Just ask them kindly if they will send you a tell when they are done and 9 times out of 10 they will. These players are tired from camping that long of a period and quite understandably a little grouchy and become extremely nervous at the thought of someone possibly stealing their kill. So, be courteous.
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 20 2000 at 7:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ya..I roll down into Naggies lair all prepared to kill him, and here is this stuipid druid camping him for his scale.
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 28 2000 at 9:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LOL, besides the fact that no one can solo naggy (duh :o) ) hes on a 1 week spawn time, so even if ya could, it would be a looooong camp {:o)
RE: What a Dummy
# Mar 27 2001 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, on Tholuxe Paells, almost every time he goes down, the zone has to be reset shortly afterwards for some reason. I've been in the zone (though not going after Nagafen) when it's happened before.
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RE: What a Dummy
# Mar 08 2001 at 6:37 PM Rating: Default
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Droods can Kite anything havent you heard there battle cry? Phat Lewtz!!!!!

LOL
vial
# Oct 12 2000 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
the vials aren't in "shaman supply shops" they are potion shops and they don't sell any ingredients for alchemy
RE: vial
# Mar 02 2001 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Costs me a flat 1250pp for a vial with CHA 60. Guess if I want one, I'll have to talk to an Enchanter friend to get it at a discount. :)
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RE: vial
# Mar 07 2001 at 10:37 PM Rating: Decent
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i have seen them in KELETHIN all the time off vendors but be ready to drop atleast 1.5k on these things, that is for me i got LOW cha so might be different for you guys, just make a NEW charc and put ALL points into CHA to buy it 8) what i do for gems and stuff
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 12 2000 at 11:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
is the scale no drop?
# Aug 23 2000 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
because i would like to know
RE: is the scale no drop?
# Dec 12 2000 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
Yes it is, the BP is not though
RE: is the scale no drop?
# Feb 27 2001 at 12:06 AM Rating: Default
THE SCALE IS NOT NO DROP! I just got it today on povar. it looks like a loose scale (like you would find on a Scaled wolf) and Weight is 2.5 magic Item. FYI!
RE: is the scale no drop?
# Mar 02 2001 at 4:20 PM Rating: Default
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Wonder how much I'd have to pay for looting rights on one?
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# no one, Posted: Aug 07 2000 at 7:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this armor is da ****
re: Vial of Swirling Smoke
# Jul 26 2000 at 11:39 PM Rating: Good
The vial is a gate potion, that can be bought from any of the shaman supply stores, where they shell herbs and other potions.
vial
# Jul 16 2000 at 11:28 PM Rating: Default
where can the vial be purchased?
RE: vial
# Jan 16 2001 at 5:38 AM Rating: Default
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If you see a vender with a bunch of weird shaped bottles, look for it. Too bad they cost around 1300 plat, they are lore..so much for tank evacs. But it'd be worth it for the BP, you can buy the scale, but most people that get one do the quest. Thanks to the epic quests red dragon scales are going to go poof from the market.
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