Mountains of Rathe  

there is no way any of these guards are level 20. i took my 61 necro there, along with a level 57 pet, and just made it out of there in time. minus my pet.

NE1 Know of a way to raise faction with the merchants in Rathe?

Just started a froglok shadowknight. Never been to Mountains for Rathe, and I'm in the Plane of Knowledge after running him through the tutorial. What's the safest way for a level 10 to get to the shadowknight guildmaster in Mountains of Rathe from PoK?

i have been hunting in dsp (dawnshourd peeks) and waanted to know if i would be able to hunt here yet am i too low if so where should i go because dsp is filled with dark blue who run the whole zone till u kill them (i need moeny for a way better weapon) and reds where should i go for money and exp with a 30 beastlord (ktorsa) should i try to grop here till 35 or what??

With the Guktan invasion of Rath Mountains, several key mobs have been moved from their traditional places/pathing.

Most notably, the hill giants are moved to the plataeu in the Northeast section (hang a right from the Feerrott entrance). This is also the spawn point for Hasten Bootstrutter's cycle. Notables on the cycle include Maldyn the Unkempt and Brother Zephyl. Hasten/PH wil spawn in the FAR WEST of this section and proceed west THROUGH THE MOUNTAIN. Best to set up in the canyon on the other side to catch him or his PHs. He then tracks west through the Northwest section and does a tour there, comes back eventually to the crossroads area by Feerrott. He then turns into the new hill giant area and back to his start.


What I have been doing (I need to spawn Brother Zephyl) is setting up in the canyon, tracking. Once you get the cycle, it is hard to miss it as it will pop at the top of the list (druid track).
Kill any 'a drake' you see. They will pop into the canyon from the other side of the mountain.

So far I have been able to spawn Hasten 3 or 4 times, Maldyn once, and many 'a drake's. I am guessing that once dead, the next spawn is like 4 minutes (didn't time it). Still waiting for Zephyl but conventional wisdom says he is on the same cycle.

If your looking for hill giants in RM, EDIT: they are in the ne corner by the pallies.

Edited, Sat Aug 27 08:19:47 2005

Edited, Mon Aug 15 17:15:53 2005

Ok, I have been exploring RM and found an are by Zaza the sphinx that looks like it could be an entrance to a dungeon. When you look at the front it has blue flames to the left and right with a path down the middle that leads to what could be a door but it is a wall. There are also two hands that have flames in the palms of them to the left and right of the could be entrance. Now there are some emblems all around it and one on the very top of the entrance and when you click it, it says you are too far to reach but you get close and you can not get anything out of it or even close enough to reach it. If you look in the blue flames it apears that they are actually skelly bones that are on fire, and they move!! I found a wall that you can click and it moves, but there is not apparent reason as to why. I have looked all over the web and found nothing on this area of RM. Unfortunetly everyone is too worried about the HG's to even go looking around. I dont know if this is something to do with LDoN, but it has been there for a long time cause I do remember seeing it along time ago just after PoP came out. Wonder if it is a dungeon or a puzzle of some sort. Has to be something cause they went ot alot of trouble to just put some scenery in the back part of a zone that hardly anyone would find. I personally think it is one of the coolest things I have found in Norath to date.

If anyone knows anything or has already figured this out please post something. Till then I will continue to try and figure this out.

63 Drood of the Nameless

i hunted here at 49 on 10/26/02 and made 1100pp in 2 hours....772 pp....1300 gp....and about 200pp worth of fine stell...some was 2pp and some wer 47 pp...seems i may get 2pp for like 2 or 3 mobs then i would get 40pp plus for like 3or 4 amd planning on staying a week...what it is..if there is more than 11 or 12 peeps in zones mobs just hard to get to fast and if all u get is 2pp per kill then u just hav extreme bad luck friend

Should a 34 shammy come here ro just stay in OT(ooverthere)? Thanks.

First
This zone is a Level 30 plus zone. Anything less than that is just a TRAIN! waiting to happen.

Second
The place is full of druids because it is a great place (finally) for us to solo (around 40) and get both XP and loot. Lots of people in this zone dis drOOds for not killing place holders, for trains, KS (we don't need to KS) and all the while sending tells for SoW, ports, tracking...

In most zones Druids are little more than medically trained servants to be used and given orders. This is a nice change. Don't forget to root AND ensnare first or you will have a train of your own.

Be safe and try to have a little fun.

Loot is fixed (minus a few action players effect and a few special NPCs) at the time they spawn.

I was in RM 2 nights ago killing HG's solo. Sometimes have a run of 5 or more in a row with less that 2pp on them (sometimes even no plat coins) and then I'd get 2 or 3 in a row with 35-50pp on them.

Sorry you just had bad luck.

i've got a quick question....what's the earliest level you can come here? either solo or grouping? thanks for the help

Macnair's Guide to Fast Leveling from 42 to 48 with Troll Guards in Rathe Mountains

1 Preliminaries

1A This is what I did, as a solo Barbarian Shaman, from 42 to 48. I expect that Mages, Necromancers, and Shadowknights could adapt this to their skills and spells. Other classes may need to form a team of two, melee and healer or caster, in order to do this safely.

1B Best bind point: at Cynthia's gypsy camp near the Lake Rathe zone, right in front of merchant Chandra Kali.

1C These trolls are on a precise 5 minute 50 second spawn cycle. Whenever one of them dies, it will repop exactly 5 minutes and 50 seconds later. Keeping track of this timing is the key to this exercise.

1D. This technique will fill your experience bar rapidly. At level 46 and 47, I gained a yellow every 68 minutes. In hell level 45 it was slower: about a yellow per 2.5 hours. I gained more per kill at 44, but it was harder to maintain the pattern, so I gained a yellow every 75 to 85 minutes. At 42 and 43 I was only doing one troll, but the experience was almost a third of a blue per kill, so I still ended up with a yellow every 75 to 85 minutes. Medium and small races would gain experience proportionately faster.

1E. Record keeping. This is a MUST. You can use notebook paper, create a form on your computer to print up, or use the back of an envelope (that was my preferred technique). But you must create a running column of figures for when the mob dies, and when it will repop. You need to use a digital watch. I was wearing the wrong watch one time, and you know, it's not always easy to decide whether that minute hand is on the 47 or the 48. Use a digital watch!

Your column of figures will look like this:

Gruilka | Gruilka
is dead | will pop
..12:29 | 17:19
..18:25 | 24:15
..25:59 | 31:49
..33:38 |

As the mob dies, look at your watch, and write down the minutes and seconds currently showing. Then add 5 minutes and 50 seconds, and write that number in the adjacent column. (You get very good at adding this in your head. Most of the time you add 6 minutes and subtract 10 seconds, heh.) So the missing number in the example above is ...

... that's right, 39:28. Everyone who got 39:28 gets a gold star. (And also gets to level up this weekend.)

Record keeping is the key, because it tells you when the mob is about to pop. That means your spell will always hit first. You will keep that troll from summoning a pesky pet. You know whether you have time to refresh that buff that is fading, or if you've got time to run to the kitchen for a drink. You can decide whether or not you are not ready for the next round: you can decide that you need to retreat and rest up, if necessary.

At level 42 and 43 you will have a double column, for your chosen mob. At level 44 and up, you will have four columns: column 1 and column 2 for Shiznak, column 3 and column 4 for Gruilka.

2 Single pulling (Level 42 - 43). You can do Shiznak the shadowknight OR you can do Gruilka the shaman, but you cannot do both. Gruilka doesn't have as many hitpoints, and doesn't hit quite as hard as Shiznak: but she's a better spellcaster, and she will heal herself if you're not careful. Even so, either one is very doable at this level.

2A Spells Loaded. Offensive spells: Scourge, Root, Venom of Snake. Defensive Spells: SoW, Greater Healing, Chloroplast, Cannibalize. Remaining 'utility' slot is used to swap buff spells in and out.

2B If you are doing Shiznak, meditate east of the tower, top of the small hill, looking down at Shiznak and his pet. If you are doing Gruilka, meditate northwest of the tower, on a small ridge near a stony area. I think it is not mana efficient to summon a pet in this situation (but it will be, at level 44 and later). Buffs on yourself: SoW, Tnarg, Shifting Shield, Strength, Chloroplast. If you are fighting Shiznak, add: Endure Magic. If you are fighting Gruilka, add: Resist Disease. Med to full.

2C Starting the battle. This is the only part that is a little tricky, because that troll you are about to attack is fully buffed and has a pet. Move to within casting range. Cast Root. At this point in your career Root should stick on a blue mob almost all the time. Run backwards out of casting range, stop, target mob's pet (which will be in your face by then). Cast Root. Move sideways: cast Venom of Snake. Retarget troll, move into casting range, cast Scourge, cast Venom of Snake. Move out of casting range; sit and med. As Root breaks, as DoTs wear off, recast. The troll's pet should die with no further attention on your part: if it breaks root early, just reroot it, and step away. You can chase the troll down and practice your melee skills at the end of the battle, or cast one final Root and Venom to finish it off. As the troll dies and you see that You gained experience! report, NOTE THE TIME in minutes and seconds, and write it on your record. Add 5 minutes and 50 seconds and write down that time in the adjacent column.

2D The next rounds of the battle. In a typical eight minute interval, you will be fighting for 2 minutes, moving back into position for 30 seconds, and medding / rebuffing for 5 1/2 minutes. As the final seconds tick down to the pop time: stand up, target your mob as it pops, and cast: Root, Scourge, Venom of Snake. Step back out of casting range. Sit and med.

You will get a few resists, and you will take a few hits. Shiznak will hit you for 351 on his harmtouch, or Gruilka will get a DoT and a nuke on you. If it all goes bad, use your last mana to cast a root: if it sticks, you should get enough of a head start to limp to the Feerrott zone.


3 Breaking the camp (level 44 and up).

3A Spells Loaded. Offensive spells: Blizzard Blast, Root, Venom of Snake. Defensive Spells: SoW, Greater Healing, Chloroplast, Cannibalize. Remaining 'utility' slot is used for various buffs, with Alacrity plugged in last.

3B Meditate out in front of the tower, in the open area on the far side of the grove of trees. Summon a pet. If your pet does not /con light blue, try again. Command /pet guard here. Buffs on pet and self: SoW, Altuna, Guardian, Resist Magic, Strength. Additional buff on self: Chloroplast. Additional buffs on pet: Deftness; plus Alacrity, just before starting the battle.

3C Med to full, cast Alacrity, med for 30 seconds. Recheck: /pet guard here.

3D Target Shiznak. Run to the left of that big tree to close to casting range, cast root. Run back to pet, taking the 351 harm touch as you go. Sit and med for one tick, stand, and take a wimpy hit from Shiznak's pet. Your pet will aggro onto Shiznak's pet, and kill it easily. While it does, run back into casting range, cast Venom of Snake, move out of casting range, med till root breaks. Stand, recast root, cast Blizzard Blast, med. Pet will have aggroed on Shiznak, Venom of Snake and pet will finish off Shiznak. NOTE THE TIME in minutes and seconds in column 1. Med for 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Add 5 minutes 50 seconds to column 1, write this time in column 2.

3E Target Gruilka. Move to casting range, cast root. Run back to pet. Her pet will attack you, then will aggro onto your pet. Step away, target Gruilka's pet, cast Venom of Snake. Your pet and Venom of Snake will now kill her pet easily. Retarget Gruilka, move into casting range, cast Venom of Snake, move outside casting range, med till root breaks. Stand, reroot. Pet will aggro on Gruilka. Cast Blizzard Blast. Med. Pet and Venom of Snake will finish of Gruilka. NOTE THE TIME in minutes and seconds in column 3. Add 5 minutes 50 seconds to column 3, write this time in column 4.

3F The camp is now broken. Your basic pattern every seven minutes will now be: one minute to kill a mob, 2 or 3 minutes to med, one minute to kill the other mob, 2 or 3 minutes to med.

4 Holding the camp. Move forward: /pet guard me, move fairly close to the tower, /pet guard here. You want to be close enough that when you hit your /pet attack hotkey, your pet is in the troll's face within a second or so.

4A Sit and med. Watch the spawn point, with mouse cursor positioned, as the clock winds down. As the mob pops, click to target it, press your /pet attack hotkey, stand and cast Venom of Snake, cast Blizzard Blast. Do NOT cast Root. If you cast Root, your pet will die.

4B Your pet will take the 351 harm touch from Shiznak and several hits, but Shiznak will almost always aggro on you when Blizzard Blast lands, and come to fight you. Stand there and melee: you'll take some hits in the 70s and 80s, but usually you'll lose only about a bubble of health. In the meantime your DoT and your pet are whittling away at Shiznak, and he will flee. Sit and med: the tag end of the DoT and your pet will finish him off. NOTE THE TIME in minutes and seconds in column 1. Add 5 minutes 50 seconds and post in column 2.

4C If Shiznak does not aggro on you after you cast Blizzard Blast, immediately cast it again. That will drop his health below the 'flee' threshhold, he will start to run (more of a limp, actually), and your pet and DoT will finish him easily.

4D Shiznak is not a heavy magic user: he will try to cast heat blood, fear, and lifetap, but not as often as he should. With Resist Magic buff, fear landed successfully on my pet maybe once every ten battles, and about once every other level on me. Bashing him when he begins to cast a spell interrupts him perhaps one time in three.

4E If Guilka does not aggro on you after you cast Blizzard Blast, or if she stops to cast a spell, cast Blizzard again, and it will kill her outright.

4F Gruilka can kill you with her hits in melee, but she casts much more often than Shiznak. She will routinely cast attack slowing spells on your pet, and they will land successfully half the time. She will nuke for 50 or 60, and will cast lower level poison and disease DoTs, sometimes using Scourge. Bashing her when she begins to cast a spell interrupts her perhaps two times in three.

4G The key to keeping the sequence flowing smoothly is mana regeneration. If you can bum a clarity off a passing enchanter, why not? I did not find it necessary, however, as long as I paid attention and made sure I was using Medidate, Cannibalize and Chloroplast to keep health and mana as high as I could, all along the way.

5 When to Retreat. Sometimes the battles will be easy. Sometimes your spell gets resisted twice in a row, then you fizzle and then you get interrupted, and meanwhile the troll has smacked away two bubbles of your life. Your health, your pet’s health, and your mana will ebb and flow. I prefer to attack with health, mana, and pet all at 70% or better: and at level 46 and 47 I had the rhythm down so smoothly that I was able to maintain about that level, keeping full buffs up. Even so, you don’t always have as much as you’d like. Minimum mana to win the battle is 30%, with excellent equipment (wisdom 200); 40% with good equipment (wisdom 160), plus at least 60% health on pet if he has to take that harm touch. If you are low on mana and health and need to rebuff: don’t attack. Don't rush your attack to maintain the rhythm. Instead, back off. Command /pet guard me, move back well out of casting range, med, heal, rebuff, and start over. It's much easier to rebreak the camp once you’re back at full than it is desperately to try to run for the zone at zero mana and 10% health with an angry troll beating on you.

6 Looting / Selling. The trolls provide minimal loot: small silver to perhaps 5 plat in coin, occasional fine steel weapons (average merchant value 5 plat), large ringmail pieces (average merchant value 2 plat), runes and words. If you are in a minimal mana situation, do not loot. Keep on medding, instead.

If you are ok on mana, 2 or 3 plat per kill can add up to 200 or 300 plat after 100 kills. Those weapons and armor weigh a lot, though: you'll get encumbered pretty quickly. It is possible to go and sell without breaking the rhythm. Cast Glamour on yourself, mem Gate, and switch to your charisma jewelry BEFORE the last kill. Let your last kill before selling be Gruilka. Leave her corpse there (it's not going anywhere, you can get it later). As she falls, immediately Gate to the gypsy camp. Immediately sit to meditate: then right click on Chandra, sell your stuff, stand and run back to the troll tower. Shiznak may have popped, and called his pet. Ignore his pet: proceed as usual, /pet attack, Venom, Blizzard, melee. Your pet will quickly kill his after Shiznak is dead.


Edited, Thu Mar 7 13:17:42 2002

My Druid stoped by this zone recently to make some fast plats. Back in the good old days I used to make around +400pp per 3 hour session and the giants would frequently drop 10-60pp per kill. Well those days are gone, its seems like Verant took the nerf bat and beat the crap outta Rath. The common drop now is usually gold to 5 plats. Big 20-60pp drops are still there, but they're now quite rare.

The plats rush is over folks, time to move on and earn your pp somewhere else.

Im a 52 necromancer and kinda need money...so i wondering would i make more money in rather Mts kills tons of HGs or killing Ice Giants in everfrost if i got a 2 spawn? any advice on making money solo would be greatly apprechiated thanks

As I cast siphon strength to pull the Hill Giant, I turn around and run to a safe spot, screaming like a little girl. I finally arrive at the safe destination and gets ready to turn around and snare the monster. I wait for 20secs and see nothing. I run back and wonder if he got stuck behind a tree or something. Nope. then I saw the other group had already killed it.

I've heard many stories like this in Rathe Mountain and one story where a guy was KSed 10times in one hour. KSing happens when the groups are to much for the monster spawn so everying fights to get it.

I don't know if this only happens on Povar but it is pretty annoying. Some sites say that on other servers Rathe Mountain is never crowded. Well I got something to say to that...

If anyone else is experiancing this difficulty, please post something. Of course I made a bee line back to DL cuz the pp/exp ratio was just too bad for soloing.

Moolentheus
49th Shadow Knight, Povar

The high level guy, thomas, does he drop anything or just do quest stuff?

A bard can go from level 27-40+ without ever having to leave rathe mts (except to bank the massive plat you get). The secret is charm-kiting :)
The best was to go about it is to buy CHA jewelry b4 u hit 27 so u will have it rdy. CHA of 125 or even 150 is awesome even for charming red mobs (but it can be done lower than that, mine was only 90 for a long time).
You will start hunting cyclops at level 27. the best area for this is the little valley right next to lake rathe zone. Just run around (always having selo's on) and look for 2 cyclops, throw a snare (prolly resisted) on one of them and run close enought to the other to make him aggro, then walk them out of the valley area out to the adjoining section. You will be able to run around without fear of adds there. Once u have the cycs into your hunting area, pick one that u can land a spell on (see if u can land on it by doing 5 belows, if all resisted try the other cyc, if that resists too... zone). You will stay targeted on that cyc the ENTIRE FIGHT.
Start running in a circle twisting selo's (ALWAYS have selo's up) and your charm spell. when your charm spell lands (it will only land half the time on deep reds with 90 cha) turn around, start selo's, and let one of them hit u so your cyc pet starts hitting it. then run away as soon as you're hit. Twist heal and selo's while they fight each other and when charm breaks, start the circle again, rinse repeat until one starts running. Then u just charm your pet again, click on the uncharmed one and push your /petattack button (from the social that u alrdy made hehe). your pet will start beating down the other one and will eventual kill him or u might have to do it one more time. Once the kill is made, run away from the corpse til charm breaks, then snare your pet. Now u can go loot the one u just killed.

Now comes the boring part where u just run in circles twisting selo's, below, below on your ex-pet until he starts running. (At level 30 u get fulfils chant and u can start twisting selo's/chant/below to make it go much faster)Then u can just twist snare/snare/snare (cause it gets resisted alot) and melee him down to keep your weapon skills up.

You use the same method with hill giants except u have to pull to an area where there are no other groups hunting, I use the place by the lizard camp usually. HGs can be done at 29 (but not recomended, do SGs at 29 if u must do a giant),but level 30 is when HGs start to be very very good.

You will be encumbered very quickly with all of the plat and FS. I am a half-elf so the guise of the deciever (Lguk drop from ghoul assasin) is a huge help because it alows u to bank in ogguk. Sell your FS weps to the gnome merchant that sells jewels in the hut by the cyclops area.

You should get massive amounts of PP and exp if u just keep doing this, I have on a sullon zek even dealing with PKers and no cha jewelry. I imagine with cha jewelery and no worries, this would be uber easy :)

have fun and kill lots of stuff

wesek
30 EVIL bard
sullon zek

Hi,
I just wanted to give my own personal opinion on this zone, so all you who havent been travelling through this parts of the continent of Antonica will maybe consider to do so.
It is one of the best zones I've ever been hunting in till now, Its a very easy zone to learn, I took one look at the map on EQatlas before I went there, and then I could tell where everything was when I got there.


If you play at a certain time of the day, you might not get a group. Then its nice to go to the gypsies near the Lake Rathetear zone and hunt for skeletons. For a early 30 level guy these are easy to kill and the experience is also good.

If you get a partner, the cyclopses around in the same ares should be rather easy to kill. I was there with another ranger the other day, and we kited the clopsies with bow till they was at 50% health, then we meeled them down to zero fast, losing about 1 red bubble of healt. This way you can get fast experience, and they drop some pp too if youre lucky.

Now, in a whole group you would want to go to the Hill Giant area. That area is why I love the zone. The hill giants are some rough bastards to take down, but in a well balanced group you should have no problem at all. They hit for max 92 damage, and have a rather huge amount of Hp's. Once youve brougt one down, they might drop as much at up to 60pp and usally a fine steel weapon that you can sell to the merchants in zone for around 5 plats each. After staying there for a few nights in a row you can easily scrounge up about 1k and an advancement in levels. However, the Hill giants drops good loot, the exp isnt as good as at the Trolls in this zone.

The trolls are actually not mobs, I think, they are just Troll Guards, guarding something that looks like a temple. They are popular target to good races who is here for the the exp and not the loot.

Anyway, there is also an area for the lower level characters here. However, I dont recommend to go there, as I've never really seen ppl below level 20 here, (as I can remember, that is) so I guess its a bad place for them or sumthing :-)

Summary: This is an awesome zone!! Whoever thinks it's now, haven't given it a fair chance, or is just stupid! (sorry, I didn't mean that) But anyway, dont say that the zone sucks before you've really given it a fair shot. If you do think it's a bad place, you may be a dungeon-guy, and in that case, I recomment to go to the basement in Estate of Unrest.
Thats about all I have to say :-)

sincerely,

Zenofex Stormcaller
Ranger of Erollisi Marr


"Therefore it can be said that victorious warriors win first, and then go to battle, while defeated warriors go to battle first, and then seek to win." - Sun Tzu, the Art of War