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In Zeixshi-Kar's Awakening: These can be found throughout the southern half of the zone and in the area between the giant and Ry`Gorr forts.

  • Summons: No
  • Rootable/snareable: No

Categories: Templatized | EverQuest
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Minimum Level: 36
Maximum Level: 40
Expansion: Scars of Velious
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Manticores make GREAT pets
# Jan 08 2003 at 1:33 AM Rating: Default
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A lot of people are posting on the PH's for these things. My bard was killing manticores and griffs in the zone for xp the other day (and wooley rhinos, mammoths, savage frost giants, etc.), the numbers did seem to alternate on my tracking. Seems like there was a half hour to an hour delay between killing a manticore and a griffon spawning, and vice versa. I don't need the eggs, but in 5 kills, two of which were elder griffons, 2 eggs dropped, but I think they both dropped off the lesser ones. Manticores make great charmed pets, btw, one of the best pets I ever charmed, but their poison is very nasty. I only got poisoned once, but it took my 51 Bard over half down before it faded.

Anyway, here's a Bard tactic, (druids and chanters may want to experiment with these as pets too)... charm a manticore with Solon's Bewitching Bravura (my CHA=124, and it lasts way longer than 18 seconds now, maybe 2 or 3 minutes), sic it on a griff or giant (or whatever). Lay some Tuyans' Chants (DoTs) on the target and help your pet. When the target turns, slow it with Selos Consonant Chain and let pet finish it. If charm breaks before target is dead, re-charm manticore, sic it on target, and slow target (who's now chasing you)with Consonant Chain. Once dead, tell pet to sit down, loot the kill, when charm breaks, let the manticore chase you while you track down your next victim, charm the manticore again, repeat the whole process. You can kill several mobs with one manticore, and when its health gets low, charm it and sic it on another manticore, but don't help it. When the new manticore kills it, use the new one as your pet. The nice thing is, the elder griffs will be rooting, snaring, kicking and scratching the manticore instead of you. You just stand by and toss in dots and slows, and rake in the xp. When your mana gets low from all the charming, DoT kite what's left of your manticore and get xp for him too. Just always know where he is, and don't let him hit you, or you may actually have to put away your trusty drum and strum the ol' guitar once he's dead.

Naturally, druids and chanters will need to adjust their tactics to suit their class-specific skills. Bards with drum equipped can easily outrun even elder griffons, but bard charms break much more frequently. I only had to put down my drum once all day, and that was the time I let my former pet catch up and slap me with its poison. Did me around 700-800hp over time. Ouch!

Syreen Valkyrja, 51 Bard, Xegony

Edited, Wed Jan 8 01:08:51 2003
RE: Manticores make GREAT pets
# Mar 21 2003 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Good advice. This is standard Charm Kiting for a Bard. My only comment is that nowadays, Solon's Bewitching Bravura costs 60 mana and lasts 1 full minute unless you successfully Hide or Invis yourself some other way.

This is key to note during Charm/Swarm kiting since you want to release your pet from your control if it's about to die and you didn't do any damage. When you release, drop a DoT/DD and you'll get full XP from it.

A Manticore on a Griffin is probably an even match, almost independent of level. Manticore's melee and resists against the higher-level Druid-based spells of a Griffin of level 39 or so. So if you want XP from both (if you can GET XP from both ;) ), monitor your pet's health.
for you druids
# Aug 28 2002 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
EW is a great zone if your a druid super easy way to get exp u can either charm an animal as your pet and snare / fear whatever mob and have pet eat it up i got lots of exp here mammoths make great pets lots of HP and decent damage when they get low on life just go invis to break the charm and kill them for exp if your pet turns on you fear it off till you can recharm it ive found this method makes exp all the way to the 50s hope this post helps PS it works on griffins too so if you want one of these as a pet its that easy as well :)
No eggs yet *sigh* but a couple of talons...
# Aug 07 2002 at 9:09 PM Rating: Default
Anyone know what these are for? "Snow Griffon Talons"?
Spawn....
# May 25 2002 at 12:41 PM Rating: Default
Maybe this was just bad luck, or a bad day...but we killed 9 griffins with 0 egg return. While I do understand and agree with the concept of haivng to work for the material I think that is a bit much for the item in question....we petitioned and filed a bug report as we could not determine if it was luck or something wrong....anyway, expect to spend some time on these....even if all the griffins we killed drop eggs, still would have taken a good 2 hours.

-Rangoth
RE: Spawn....
# Jun 05 2002 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
I got my 3rd shawl finally a coupla days ago and got my 4th shawl in the same day. Finally got the eggs I needed after I failed first time round and my baking is well above trivial for the souffle. The fun part of the fourth shawl is getting Tanik to pop. a friend of mine (Thanks Drag :) ) who's a necro brought his pet and placed him at the top of the kael ramp asked him to guard the area he would point directly at where Tanik or the Kromrif DS would spawn. It got frustrating after the 15th time the DS spawned and chased us to kael but just as Drag was of to bed Tanik popped and no DS. Which is great. anyway just so as you know if you don't get Tanik first time round and get the DS try again as soon as they depop theres no timer on the spawn reset its instant after the depop! Just remember to uninvis yourself when you give Tanik the Vial of Velium Vapours(They rechanged the spelling) I forgot and panicked as I didnt realise I was invis and he wouldnt accept my hails or me giving him the item lol. Kinda excited that he finally popped. anyway good luck, and with the griffs from my experience I believe its just a lot of luck more than anything but on 7th Hammer theres been alot of em around recently which is nice.
My 2cp
PH of Griffs
# May 23 2002 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
My experience over the last few days is that the manticores are definitely linked to the griff spawns. Annoying thing was after killing the manticores and doing the hard work some one else comes along and kills the damn griffs. Also out of about 10 - 11 that I killed not one dropped an egg always a talon or feather or both. Either Verant have drastically reduced the drop rate on the eggs or they have some way of telling that you really need the eggs, and won't have them drop. I just happened to chance upon a snow griff once on my way through EW and it dropped an egg - nice - thing is I wasnt doing the shawl quests at the time but I kept it all the same just in case. now im doing the quests they wont drop :(
Oh well I'll keep trying- Chin up :)
New Spawn Rate?
# May 14 2002 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
I have been hunting these little bastards for 2 ays now with some friends, working on my 3rd shawl. After 3 griffons, we killed every snow bunny AND manticore on track to the point of temporary extinction. No griffs popped. waited over an hour running arounf the fort/sleeper tomb/bridge area, hitting track everytime it popped. no griffs. At that point we went to Crystal cavern for a while to collect the pieces for my 4th shawl. after we did that and killed the queen (about an hour and a half later?) we came out and there were griff up again...2 on track.

My point is this. Either the placeholders have changed or Verant have put these guys on a spawn rate but I REALLY dont think that the PHs are bunnies or Mantis anymore....2 F*$&%ING EGGS TO GO!!! Grrrrr
RE: New Spawn Rate?
# May 17 2002 at 5:26 AM Rating: Decent
I just completed the third shawl tonight. I hired a ranger to track for me and we hunted at least half an hour without seeing a single griffon. We did, however pounce on every bunny we saw (it broke my lizard heart, but we had to do it) and boy, were there ever a lot of them. I watched at least a dozen snow bunny meats rot and I've got a half stack of their pelts. After about 30 minutes of roaming the zone, massacreing defenseless bunnies, and getting horribly frustrated, the griffons started popping. We just waxed every one we met, as well as all the bunnies, and they kept on showing up. 3 hours and 30 griffons later...no more cooking!

In conclusion, I'm pretty sure their spawns are linked.

Khazss Zraos
Scaled Mystic of the 51st
Karana
What?
# Apr 24 2002 at 9:29 PM Rating: Default
Triple hitting for 250 are you on crack? Never hit my druid for more than 94. I don't know about placeholders but don't kite them unless you want to be oom while they are still chasing you at 1/5 health. Faster to kill one at a time. They stop and heal themselves so it messes up your kiting. One will heal and lag behind the other(s) chasing you. Took forever for me but got an egg out of that. Get ready to gate if they root you since there may be some adds, but I resist the root at 49.
My Exp
# Mar 13 2002 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
Ok here is my exp. with these. Post if it works for you or not.

First off I have no clue what the PH is because there was a lvl 57 warrior running around by me killing everything in sight. But when you do kill the PH the Griffin will spawn in 30mins. There are 3 Griffins that will spawn. One you kill the griffins you do not need to go kill the PH again because that griffin will keep pop every 30min as long as you keep killing it. They all spawn in the same area very easy for trackers and can still be done with ease for non trackers. All of them spawned around the Coldain Camp at -8000 -2000 some spawn over the hill to the west and some over the hill to the north but not very far. I am guessing if you miss the griffin the PH will spawn back and you have to go find it again.

So my best advice is go to the Coldain camp at -8k -2k and kill everything in sight sit down and heal and mead up and watch the clock for 30min if only one or 2 spawn then after you kill them go on a killing rampage again until next time all 3 spawn. There will never be more then one out at a time. Last try to space them out some so you can heal or med because I was haveing a hard time killing 3 right in a row.

Hope this is it and reply if it works.


Nohal
55 Druid
Lanys T'vyl
Placeholder
# Jan 06 2002 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
The placeholders are in fact manticores. Kill a manticore a griff pops, kill another and another pops. I did this at 4am when noone else was in zone, also tried snowbunnies, killed about 30 of them and not a single griff spawned.
RE: Placeholder
# Feb 11 2002 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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RE: Placeholder
# Feb 12 2002 at 4:16 PM Rating: Default
I've killed hundreds of bunnies with no griffs in a nearly empty zone, but had griffs pop within a few minutes of killing the small group of manticores who hang around in the same spawn points south of the bridge. number of griffs almost always corresponds to the number of manticores killed between 1 and 3
RE: Placeholder
# Feb 06 2002 at 1:45 PM Rating: Default
Aye, I noted that the manticores were in fact the PH after 4 hrs of running around the eastern half of the zone watching track every few seconds. I wish I had known sooner, it finally occurred to me that there were very few on that side of the zone and gave it a shot.
Placeholders
# Dec 16 2001 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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The placeholders definately seem to be snow bunnies. 3 bunnies on track, 3 dead bunnies, then 3 snow griffs spawn (not immediately). At least that is how it went tonight :)
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 29 2001 at 8:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) they triple hit for 250, but can solo them fairly safely if i remember to keep snaring and fearing, when they drop at the same time ur dead! (37 druid, backrub, morrel thule of the black claws!)
RE: owy
# Feb 07 2002 at 4:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Triple hit for 250? I dont think so, that would make them much higher lvl than they really are. I've killed a whole lot of these for the 3rd shawl quest (about 30) and never been hit for over 120. I started killing them at 42, I did try an elder snow grif at 42 and got my **** kicked. They outrun sow/wolf form but the 44 wolf form seems to have the edge on the regular snow grifs but not on the elders. Snare, terrorise and DoT is the best way to kill em. Beware though they are rangers so they do have Grasping Roots, Stinging Swarm and snare spells. There DD's are so bad you wonder why they bother (ala PC Rangers) but get rooted without a fear memed and your in trouble.
RE: owy
# Aug 12 2002 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the tip about them being rangers. I was gonna post a question about spell reflection, since I'm a druid and I was getting hit by similar spells that I was casting, (at a lower severity). And I didn't even think to terrorize them. I was rooting (100 dmg), click snaring from my ES gauntlets, dotting, and using 2 fire based spells to nuke, Calefaction (445 dmg max), and Fire Strike (302 dmg max).

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EGGS
# Nov 26 2001 at 6:18 PM Rating: Default
I would like to know where they spawn in EW. I have been hunting these for more than 2 weeks. I believe that the place holder for these could be manticores. Any help on this would be appreciated. Oh by the way I need one more egg and havent seen a snow griff in 2 days. Bah,


out ran sow
# Nov 02 2001 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default
was medding by zone when griffin atacked. was in wolform, lvl 44 drui, and started to zone thought no problem, guess what sucker flies at sow speed, dont waste time running try to root or snare, your not getting away otherwise,lost a nights exp for being careless not wtching whats around.
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 19 2001 at 11:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Which zone? They put 4 in EW.
Ew only?
# Oct 27 2001 at 5:08 PM Rating: Default
Hi i've been looking into the Shawl quests and so i came here to check up on Snow Griffs, as u need their eggs for part of the 3rd portion of the Shawl Quest. I was hoping they spawned in more zones than EW only... anyone seen them elsewhere? If not i'll probly wait till lvl 44 on my necro (he's 40 now) till i try to solo these suckers. Good to hear they are Rangers not Druids so they shouldn't be able to heal much while i'm busy recasting fear. I actually have 201 INT and i'm not after the Shawl, but rather the Faction and the Seal of Thordain (awesome, awesome range slot item).
stupid
# Oct 25 2001 at 6:17 PM Rating: Default
these guys are rangers or druids, so they can snare and root and dot
easy kills
# Oct 20 2001 at 6:44 PM Rating: Default
I play a lvl 46 mage on the A-Ro server. At 50% mana and a full pet I can solo these easy. A druid friend and myself were fear kiting tundra mammoths and one of these agroed on my FIRE pet. The druid pounded away on the mammoth and I took out the griff. Wasn't hard. Elemental Malstrom and NUKE until dead. Didn't see it cast a single spell so I'm not sure if they do or not. Not sure bout lvl ranges I personally have only seen ones blue to me. But that doesn't mean much.
sowed
# Oct 15 2001 at 3:17 AM Rating: Default
Im a 53 wizard and let me tell you if your sow goes and the griffins not rooted your dead
RE: sowed
# Mar 31 2002 at 4:49 AM Rating: Default
Well, don't let this message scare you off fellow wizzies. Maybe this guy was having bad luck, or I was having good luck, but at level 40, I killed a few tonight for the shawl quest, and it was not that difficult, and no I was not using SoW, although that would be nice if you can get it. All I did was ensnare, and kite with DD. Always use your steelskin in case they resist snare, and if that happens root them immediately, and resnare. Their spells they cast are pretty harmless, and I resisted a bunch too. I never got rooted, but planned to root them back, and if that failed, gate away as last resort. They do tend to take partial damage on nukes also, which sucks on the mana. I had to use harvest a couple times to finish them off. If they resist the first snare they are on you too quick to root them without taking a small beating, that's where the steelskin comes in. Its not that bad tho. A hair bit tougher than frost giants I believe. Good luck, and those eggs are a pain, but the reward will be nice.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 01 2001 at 10:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yea I am in need of the eggs these bad boys drop. If anyone can help give me a tell on rallos, i'll pay per egg. Also any hints to where these things spawn or is it just random?
RE: Hehe
# Oct 15 2001 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
The eggs are no drop... at least on Vazaelle, they are no drop.
A question from the guy in the back.
# Sep 29 2001 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
Am I missing something? Aren't these guys rangers fighters with low hitpoints and high damage? Maybe a little root and nuke ability. Why not handle like you would dueling a guild ranger for fun?

In our experiences Wizards are good support for this. At 39th I could do damage at a 2hps per mana ratio. I have my specialize evocation as maxed as possible. When this goes off, many times my spell will be nearly mana free.

The only problem is MoB and crowd control. Enter a guild/friend druid or enchanter. My favorite combo was a guild druid who I knew well. We started at 39th wizard (me) and a 44thdruid. He would snare and then root. When I saw the group post for "rooted, nuke away"the fun would start.

No matter how you kill the MoB, let the lowest level look at the loot. This seemed to help the eggs drop. After they look and the loot has been established, then who ever needs can loot. The first night we tried this we had 3 eggs in 5 kills. We wanted to keep doing but we started killing just to have fun around 3am and after 5 kills we were exhausted.

Druids have the best chance at soloing. Wizards can solo well unless they resist the bonds of force. But I enjoy team work every once in a while to help with adds and resists.

We tried to do this with a tank helping. Sorry guys, they died every time. For the most part our guild warriors don't want the shawl so it is mostly Paladins. When a tank needs to join for eggs we asked them to stand aside and use healing spells on the druid or practice their bow.

We use these tanks heavy against giants, so it is our way to say thanks. :-)
RE: A question from the guy in the back.
# Nov 25 2001 at 5:49 AM Rating: Excellent
Some interesting ideas, but whatever loot is on a mob is determined as it spawns. It doesn't matter who loots.
RE: A question from the guy in the back.
# Feb 07 2002 at 10:36 PM Rating: Default
You are exactly right. It would be chaotic if loot was determined when you looted.. chaotic for the server, and the programmer trying to keep bugs out. Imagine a lvl 60 grouped with a lvl 1.. And he takes out some real tough mob (mob stands for MOBILE, people! not MoB.. it isn't an acronym) and gets the lvl 1 to loot it. If -I- coded it, and loot was determined by looter lvl, there would be a level clamp. And even then, say you killed an evil eye.. Expecting two bags to drop if a lowbie loots it? Whats the purpose? Just to throw the rarity into chaos? You wouldn't believe it but Verant has more control over what happens in the game than you think. Even I wouldn't allow that to happen.. If too many evil eye bags are in existence, I would cut the drop rate by half. Make 'em suffer!
RE: A question from the guy in the back.
# Sep 04 2002 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Remember that on many MoBs you can see some of their loot as they walk around (for example, Giants carrying various weapons). This fact seems to support that the loot is determined at spawn, not at loot.
RE: A question from the guy in the back.
# Mar 12 2002 at 6:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hrm... Schroedinger's Snow Griffin Corpse. Contents indeterminate until checked. :)
RE: A question from the guy in the back.
# Aug 15 2003 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
are you suggesting there is a dead cat in the griffin ? :)
snow griffin talons
# Sep 27 2001 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
what are the talons that drop for?
Chanter Style 3
# Sep 21 2001 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
Here is what I did to get my griffin eggs at 46-47 soloing:

Go to Sleepers Tomb and start killing everything you see. At my level I was getting good exp and
people at fort was always ready to exchange sow for clarity. I used the regular charm kiting tactic (15 sec mes, Tashani, 39 Charm (CW), alacrity pet, find 2nd mob, root it, send the pet in, med). After some time griffins start to spawn there, you do not even need a tracker. I once saw 4 grifs flying around me, kinda scary heh.

Ok, now you have a grif, entrance it and look for a pet. Once you got a pet, send him in and pilage enchantment twice to make sure you killed sow.
Root the grif. If charm breaks you can outrun
grif without problems, entrance grif, mes pet,
you are back in bussiness.

Manticors make the best pets and under alacrity they can even kill elder grifs.

Spells that I had memed:
Mesmerise
Entrance
Tashani
Cojoling Whispers
Root
Pilage Enchantment
Discordant Mind
Alacrity

Hope this helps.
Rangers suck?
# Sep 20 2001 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
I'd like to watch people tell me Rangers are hopeless when they have one of these on them. Hehe.

Definitely a Ranger, btw. Their healing spells aren't potent enough to be a Druid. Only enough to be annoying (like Rangers. :P).
mage strat
# Sep 12 2001 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
I see the necro/druid stats, are there any ways a mage can take these bad boys down?
RE: mage strat
# Jun 20 2002 at 2:06 AM Rating: Default
umm send in pet... nuke once... wait lol
dead

hard part is finding em
52 is a blast...
# Sep 10 2001 at 9:05 PM Rating: Default
As a lvl 52 druid these are a joke to kill. If I am lazy (Cmon I am a druid, I am always lazy) I just snare, fear, starfire <612dmg> till its dead... invis, med, BS with the guild and watch tracking for another. Takes around 3 bubs of mana I think, maybe less.

Another thing to note is that a large portion of the whole 3rd shawl quest can be multiquested. If you got a ton of money, you needn't bake anything at all. Just find someone willing to bake stuff and multi it with ya. Personally I wouldnt multi it for less than 2 or 3k, cuz I know what my time is worth as a 52 drood adept in soloing.

Ok nuff babbling... its getting late. Good Luck to everyone.

Maporfic
52nd Druidess
New Dawn Rising
Torv server
Snow Griffins for Necros
# Sep 10 2001 at 6:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Greetings, fellow Coldain caterers! No doubt anyone looking at this page is doing so for the Shawl - these things are waaaay too unpleasant to hunt for fun. I'm'a try to put everything in one post here, please bear with me as I echo everything :D

Location: I've seen snow griffins all around the centre/south side of the zone (say the area bounded by bridge, Ry'Gorr Keep, Kael and the sleeping dragon), but they do seem quite rare.
(Thx, Carlo)

Loot: Godawful. Talons seem Common, Feathers Uncommon, and the Eggs are Rare-ish. They also drop the occasional level-appropriate Words. I'm up to 2 eggs after 15 kills, and am told I'm "lucky".

Tactics: These are Rangers. They'll start out SoWed with a damage shield on, so begin with Dooming Darkness. Pull them back to your pet (both sides of the bridge are decent parking spots - very few paths through there, or go under the bridge if you're paranoid), Invoke Fear, then throw every DoT you have on it.

Simple, really. I'm casting myself down to 20m - but that's solo, without a lick of damage to me or the pet (apart form the damage shield, natch). I STRONGLY recommend enlisting either a Druid of Ranger, not only will you be glad of the company, and their Tracking is indispensible. Also, if they're powerful enough, they can clear up all those pesky snowstorms :)

Markoff Chaney
Gnecro of the 40th Corpse
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