a snow griffin  

A lot of people are posting on the PH's for these things. My bard was killing manticores and griffs in the zone for xp the other day (and wooley rhinos, mammoths, savage frost giants, etc.), the numbers did seem to alternate on my tracking. Seems like there was a half hour to an hour delay between killing a manticore and a griffon spawning, and vice versa. I don't need the eggs, but in 5 kills, two of which were elder griffons, 2 eggs dropped, but I think they both dropped off the lesser ones. Manticores make great charmed pets, btw, one of the best pets I ever charmed, but their poison is very nasty. I only got poisoned once, but it took my 51 Bard over half down before it faded.

Anyway, here's a Bard tactic, (druids and chanters may want to experiment with these as pets too)... charm a manticore with Solon's Bewitching Bravura (my CHA=124, and it lasts way longer than 18 seconds now, maybe 2 or 3 minutes), sic it on a griff or giant (or whatever). Lay some Tuyans' Chants (DoTs) on the target and help your pet. When the target turns, slow it with Selos Consonant Chain and let pet finish it. If charm breaks before target is dead, re-charm manticore, sic it on target, and slow target (who's now chasing you)with Consonant Chain. Once dead, tell pet to sit down, loot the kill, when charm breaks, let the manticore chase you while you track down your next victim, charm the manticore again, repeat the whole process. You can kill several mobs with one manticore, and when its health gets low, charm it and sic it on another manticore, but don't help it. When the new manticore kills it, use the new one as your pet. The nice thing is, the elder griffs will be rooting, snaring, kicking and scratching the manticore instead of you. You just stand by and toss in dots and slows, and rake in the xp. When your mana gets low from all the charming, DoT kite what's left of your manticore and get xp for him too. Just always know where he is, and don't let him hit you, or you may actually have to put away your trusty drum and strum the ol' guitar once he's dead.

Naturally, druids and chanters will need to adjust their tactics to suit their class-specific skills. Bards with drum equipped can easily outrun even elder griffons, but bard charms break much more frequently. I only had to put down my drum once all day, and that was the time I let my former pet catch up and slap me with its poison. Did me around 700-800hp over time. Ouch!

Syreen Valkyrja, 51 Bard, Xegony

Edited, Wed Jan 8 01:08:51 2003

EW is a great zone if your a druid super easy way to get exp u can either charm an animal as your pet and snare / fear whatever mob and have pet eat it up i got lots of exp here mammoths make great pets lots of HP and decent damage when they get low on life just go invis to break the charm and kill them for exp if your pet turns on you fear it off till you can recharm it ive found this method makes exp all the way to the 50s hope this post helps PS it works on griffins too so if you want one of these as a pet its that easy as well :)

Maybe this was just bad luck, or a bad day...but we killed 9 griffins with 0 egg return. While I do understand and agree with the concept of haivng to work for the material I think that is a bit much for the item in question....we petitioned and filed a bug report as we could not determine if it was luck or something wrong....anyway, expect to spend some time on these....even if all the griffins we killed drop eggs, still would have taken a good 2 hours.

-Rangoth

My experience over the last few days is that the manticores are definitely linked to the griff spawns. Annoying thing was after killing the manticores and doing the hard work some one else comes along and kills the damn griffs. Also out of about 10 - 11 that I killed not one dropped an egg always a talon or feather or both. Either Verant have drastically reduced the drop rate on the eggs or they have some way of telling that you really need the eggs, and won't have them drop. I just happened to chance upon a snow griff once on my way through EW and it dropped an egg - nice - thing is I wasnt doing the shawl quests at the time but I kept it all the same just in case. now im doing the quests they wont drop :(
Oh well I'll keep trying- Chin up :)

Ok here is my exp. with these. Post if it works for you or not.

First off I have no clue what the PH is because there was a lvl 57 warrior running around by me killing everything in sight. But when you do kill the PH the Griffin will spawn in 30mins. There are 3 Griffins that will spawn. One you kill the griffins you do not need to go kill the PH again because that griffin will keep pop every 30min as long as you keep killing it. They all spawn in the same area very easy for trackers and can still be done with ease for non trackers. All of them spawned around the Coldain Camp at -8000 -2000 some spawn over the hill to the west and some over the hill to the north but not very far. I am guessing if you miss the griffin the PH will spawn back and you have to go find it again.

So my best advice is go to the Coldain camp at -8k -2k and kill everything in sight sit down and heal and mead up and watch the clock for 30min if only one or 2 spawn then after you kill them go on a killing rampage again until next time all 3 spawn. There will never be more then one out at a time. Last try to space them out some so you can heal or med because I was haveing a hard time killing 3 right in a row.

Hope this is it and reply if it works.


Nohal
55 Druid
Lanys T'vyl

was medding by zone when griffin atacked. was in wolform, lvl 44 drui, and started to zone thought no problem, guess what sucker flies at sow speed, dont waste time running try to root or snare, your not getting away otherwise,lost a nights exp for being careless not wtching whats around.

Hi i've been looking into the Shawl quests and so i came here to check up on Snow Griffs, as u need their eggs for part of the 3rd portion of the Shawl Quest. I was hoping they spawned in more zones than EW only... anyone seen them elsewhere? If not i'll probly wait till lvl 44 on my necro (he's 40 now) till i try to solo these suckers. Good to hear they are Rangers not Druids so they shouldn't be able to heal much while i'm busy recasting fear. I actually have 201 INT and i'm not after the Shawl, but rather the Faction and the Seal of Thordain (awesome, awesome range slot item).

I play a lvl 46 mage on the A-Ro server. At 50% mana and a full pet I can solo these easy. A druid friend and myself were fear kiting tundra mammoths and one of these agroed on my FIRE pet. The druid pounded away on the mammoth and I took out the griff. Wasn't hard. Elemental Malstrom and NUKE until dead. Didn't see it cast a single spell so I'm not sure if they do or not. Not sure bout lvl ranges I personally have only seen ones blue to me. But that doesn't mean much.

Here is what I did to get my griffin eggs at 46-47 soloing:

Go to Sleepers Tomb and start killing everything you see. At my level I was getting good exp and
people at fort was always ready to exchange sow for clarity. I used the regular charm kiting tactic (15 sec mes, Tashani, 39 Charm (CW), alacrity pet, find 2nd mob, root it, send the pet in, med). After some time griffins start to spawn there, you do not even need a tracker. I once saw 4 grifs flying around me, kinda scary heh.

Ok, now you have a grif, entrance it and look for a pet. Once you got a pet, send him in and pilage enchantment twice to make sure you killed sow.
Root the grif. If charm breaks you can outrun
grif without problems, entrance grif, mes pet,
you are back in bussiness.

Manticors make the best pets and under alacrity they can even kill elder grifs.

Spells that I had memed:
Mesmerise
Entrance
Tashani
Cojoling Whispers
Root
Pilage Enchantment
Discordant Mind
Alacrity

Hope this helps.

I see the necro/druid stats, are there any ways a mage can take these bad boys down?

As a lvl 52 druid these are a joke to kill. If I am lazy (Cmon I am a druid, I am always lazy) I just snare, fear, starfire <612dmg> till its dead... invis, med, BS with the guild and watch tracking for another. Takes around 3 bubs of mana I think, maybe less.

Another thing to note is that a large portion of the whole 3rd shawl quest can be multiquested. If you got a ton of money, you needn't bake anything at all. Just find someone willing to bake stuff and multi it with ya. Personally I wouldnt multi it for less than 2 or 3k, cuz I know what my time is worth as a 52 drood adept in soloing.

Ok nuff babbling... its getting late. Good Luck to everyone.

Maporfic
52nd Druidess
New Dawn Rising
Torv server