Ruins of Kunark
Two weeks ago, I obtained a JBB and turned 45. Two weeks later i am now level 50, averaging 1 yellow per hour, without external buffs. The Jbb is the best thing for XP I have seen!
I have been soloing in DL and my tactic now is simply to slow the mobs, let them hit me whilst the pet melees and I cast the JBB over and over- as long as your AC is decent, your defense has been worked on and you have some sort of regen- you always win with the downtime being only that required to cann up the cost of the slow and any other buffs that wear off (make sure youre fully buffed).
It is great if you are in a small group but probably doesnt make much of a difference if you are in a full group as your role will be quite well defined (buffing team and slowing mobs) and if youre casting chain nukes by the JBB, you wont be able to med up for mana. Unless you have a KEI........
But well worth it for rapid XP gain. Probably wont make a big difference later on in groups but you could always sell it at the same price- I dont think the price drops all that much for one.
Jaundiced Bone Bracer
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Just got my JBB last night...believe it or not I was able to trade for mine.. The guy wanted 15k obo and all I had was 1200pp cause Id just got a iksar regen bp. Anyway I told him some of my gear and did the following trade: JBB and a chokidai shoulder ( aC 6 +8 WIS +5 sv m/p/d ) for a granite facegrinder, Iksar regen BP, heavy dragonwing mantle and 1200pp. If you want one of these but dont have 15k, try trading some gear for it. I couldnt believe when his name turned green in the trade box--Ive been looking for one of these forever and until the last month didnt haver the money for it. After being constantly frustrated I bought other stuff and then the ikky bp. Thx Vurm for a great item. Cast time is 8 secs but our level 54 Ice Strike is 7 secs, and JBB has no recast time and is mana free. I will be able to go from barely killing a mature wyvern solo to being able to do the named in SF ( except Eldrig the Old--summoning bastage!!) with fair ease. I gave up some melee ability, AC and HP to get this but gained much offense. Getting to 55+ will be much better now. Like has been said before about JBB...Lie, Steal, Cheat, Buy, or Trade to get one of these.
54 Ogre Battle Mystic on Luclin server--Chaotic Winds--Aggrok
Edited, Fri Jul 12 06:05:38 2002
54 Ogre Battle Mystic on Luclin server--Chaotic Winds--Aggrok
Edited, Fri Jul 12 06:05:38 2002
Just wanted to add now Ive seen these soar in price on Luclin server--average is 25kpp, with prices in the Bazaar as higf as 35kpp. Unless you have total crap gear, its still worth it, although Im very glad I got mine when I did when they were 15kpp. Good luck getting one for anywhere close that now. Also, iksar regen BP's are going up in price too, average is getting to be 7500pp, up from the longstanding 6kpp they have always been. May want to get one now if you are thinking about it.
Man, I cant believe Ive only leveled 2 levels in 6 months , but I do have 15 AA now so not a complete loss. Also wanted to mention that with this item I have successfully soloed Eldrig the Old --summons and all--took 5 attempts but I did it--if you want to know how to do it read my post under his name in SF bestiary.
Only good news for up and coming shaman is our level 59-60 spells have finally come down some in price ( not much ), but Ive seen Avatar for 5k, and talked to a guy who got Malo for 38kpp ( Torpor is still 60kpp IF its for sale ). Getting your epic is easier than getting Pox of Bertoxxolous IMHO, as it only drops in Old Sebillis ( well Ancient Wyverns in Skyfire too but I haven't talked with a single shammy who got this spell that way ). Bane of Nife came down too, got mine for 1500pp, and on the off-subject of rare spells ( yes I know this is supposed to be about JBB but all shaman are faced with this eventually ), I got remove curse for just 1k--much easier than camping this guy although he can be soloed easy by a 54+ shaman, read my post under the Great Saprophyte to see how to do it ( no you dont need a JBB--actually using a JBB on him will get you killed ).
For those who dont have the money, fear not--a KEI will allow you to solo nearly as well as having a JBB, especially if you can melee good and use your Kilvas Skin of Flame Potions ( you do alchemy , right? Yeah its pricey but worth it.)
I understand if your alchemy is 37 still cause your saving for a JBB, but hurry prices are going up nearly everday.
Ok, another long post that got off topic, but thats typical of me and after 100+ posts you all are used to it by now. Take care and have fun.
56 Ogre Luminary on Luclin server--Chaotic Winds--Baron Aggrok
Man, I cant believe Ive only leveled 2 levels in 6 months , but I do have 15 AA now so not a complete loss. Also wanted to mention that with this item I have successfully soloed Eldrig the Old --summons and all--took 5 attempts but I did it--if you want to know how to do it read my post under his name in SF bestiary.
Only good news for up and coming shaman is our level 59-60 spells have finally come down some in price ( not much ), but Ive seen Avatar for 5k, and talked to a guy who got Malo for 38kpp ( Torpor is still 60kpp IF its for sale ). Getting your epic is easier than getting Pox of Bertoxxolous IMHO, as it only drops in Old Sebillis ( well Ancient Wyverns in Skyfire too but I haven't talked with a single shammy who got this spell that way ). Bane of Nife came down too, got mine for 1500pp, and on the off-subject of rare spells ( yes I know this is supposed to be about JBB but all shaman are faced with this eventually ), I got remove curse for just 1k--much easier than camping this guy although he can be soloed easy by a 54+ shaman, read my post under the Great Saprophyte to see how to do it ( no you dont need a JBB--actually using a JBB on him will get you killed ).
For those who dont have the money, fear not--a KEI will allow you to solo nearly as well as having a JBB, especially if you can melee good and use your Kilvas Skin of Flame Potions ( you do alchemy , right? Yeah its pricey but worth it.)
I understand if your alchemy is 37 still cause your saving for a JBB, but hurry prices are going up nearly everday.
Ok, another long post that got off topic, but thats typical of me and after 100+ posts you all are used to it by now. Take care and have fun.
56 Ogre Luminary on Luclin server--Chaotic Winds--Baron Aggrok
Iksars not being able to wear this now is just lame, They can use velious plate so why not give em all the plate they want...VI has no excuse to not let iksar wear this if they let us use luclin/velious plates
EDIT: Yes take those away from us...and in turn maybe give us armor similar to this with the same effects with less ac due to our ac bonus and ill be happy =) make them quested if you want to because as in iksar shammy i would go to hell and back to get an item with this effect
Edited, Wed Jul 10 22:44:30 2002
EDIT: Yes take those away from us...and in turn maybe give us armor similar to this with the same effects with less ac due to our ac bonus and ill be happy =) make them quested if you want to because as in iksar shammy i would go to hell and back to get an item with this effect
Edited, Wed Jul 10 22:44:30 2002
28 posts
I'm not sure of the armoring rules for lizards, but I'm sure they have their reason's. Who knows, maybe it was an oversight and it'll be patched. BTW: If something had true power, why would it be hiding in the shadow's?
48 posts
You're right, they should take the Luclin/Velious plates away from you. :0
Why is it that all those races are listed when it's a shaman only item? Let's see, since iskars can't wear plate, I believe that cuts down the useable races to Vah Shir, Barbarian, Troll, and Ogre. Why bother listing the rest?
My 2 cp.
My 2 cp.
I believe the EQ items use armor type flags that then determine who can wear it.
The races listed are all "plate" type races. They can wear plate. Now in the class listing the only added shaman. To specificly add or remove races from the list they would have to go in and actually add or remove them. Its easier just to use the class and armor type, since we wont need to worry about a Erudite Shaman abusing the bracers..
Hope this makes some sense.
-Stuff
The races listed are all "plate" type races. They can wear plate. Now in the class listing the only added shaman. To specificly add or remove races from the list they would have to go in and actually add or remove them. Its easier just to use the class and armor type, since we wont need to worry about a Erudite Shaman abusing the bracers..
Hope this makes some sense.
-Stuff
2 posts
hoPE NOT
Edited, Sat May 11 18:00:08 2002
Edited, Sat May 11 18:00:08 2002
5 posts
Finally getting into the range of affording the JBB..
I just happened to be hunting in DL the other day
& heard a rumor that they are going to nerf the JBB into casting Zing instead of Roar...
Has anyone else heard of this?
I am hoping it was just that..rumors.. but it was OOCs between shamen...so far not too many other people have heard of this...
I just happened to be hunting in DL the other day
& heard a rumor that they are going to nerf the JBB into casting Zing instead of Roar...
Has anyone else heard of this?
I am hoping it was just that..rumors.. but it was OOCs between shamen...so far not too many other people have heard of this...
Since obtaining a JBB at lvl 53 my life as a shaman has completely changed. In groups against tougher mobs I can generally get in about 12-13 nukes (that's in the neighborhood of 3000dmg) and against most 6-7 nukes, this really helps to increase the experience for your group overall. Soloing I now simply buff myself bring out a pet(also buffed), slow the mob, cripple the mob, and nuke like crazy, and with the damage output of the jbb and the damage of your pet vs. a crippled mob I can tank mobs in skyfire, such as mature wurms, rarely requiring a heal, and only using a minimal amount of mana.
Yes, iksar can't use this item - but with the AC bonus iksars obtain a large amount of AC over non iksars at high levels.. if they could use this item holy $%@#. I guess verant's reasoning is that it would make them overpowering.
Gazkan Drooidslayer
Lvl 53 Shaman
Yes, iksar can't use this item - but with the AC bonus iksars obtain a large amount of AC over non iksars at high levels.. if they could use this item holy $%@#. I guess verant's reasoning is that it would make them overpowering.
Gazkan Drooidslayer
Lvl 53 Shaman
Iksar with some extra AC? Compared to the damage this item does, 3000 you said in 12 or 13 casts? Hm, doubt the Iksar are "overpowering" any of the other Shammy races in AC or dishing out nukes. Just my opinion though =)
Hakunin, Barbarian Shaman
Finkel, Gnome Magician
Bashdem, Troll S.K.
Tunare Server
Hakunin, Barbarian Shaman
Finkel, Gnome Magician
Bashdem, Troll S.K.
Tunare Server
4 posts
If anyone is selling this I currently have 14k on Tunare. Will gladly pay this ammount or do trades.
12 posts
While using this by right clicking it, your evocation skills do not increase. It never fizzles, however it can be interuppted.
Works best on mobs that are least cold resistant.
Does huge amounts of damage while chain casting it over a short amount of time.
Edited, Fri Dec 7 15:50:28 2001
Works best on mobs that are least cold resistant.
Does huge amounts of damage while chain casting it over a short amount of time.
Edited, Fri Dec 7 15:50:28 2001
Actually, yes your magic skills do go up.
My ES vams have raised my conjuration skills several times over the course of my ownership of said vams. It works the same for all other kunark armor.
My ES vams have raised my conjuration skills several times over the course of my ownership of said vams. It works the same for all other kunark armor.
Scholar
37 posts
the JBB does NOT raise evocation for shaman.
15 posts
WTF?!!! Iksar can't use but they are Shaman only, that's nuts. Next time you see a Gnomish Shaman on ask him if he will petition a GM to let Iksar use these too. I saved up a ton of cash and bought one of these only to see that I couldn't equip it. I was so ticked, I still am. makes no sense to me. Iksar be warned, these are a waste of time and cash. Not cool at all.
Blackdust Moonspirit
Iksar Shaman
Blackdust Moonspirit
Iksar Shaman
48 posts
you should've been smart...you bought one, and most people of EQ know that iksars cant wear plate...and you bought one, what level are you 30? 40 maybe? ugh, never buy plate armor again!!! (if yer an iksar) also..trolls and iksars get regen, but there's an exp penalty..and the hybrids get an exp penalty, so if you really wanna work hard for your exp, make an iksar/troll shadow knight, worst exp in the game, but i got to 11 easily with my iksar sk, jus hunted in FoB, then went to kurns til 9, and went to orc camps in EC...why i am i saying this, i dont know, i mus be bored out of my mind even though i have no life, barsh leeve me lone!!!
18 posts
actually by the time you made this post there was no longer a class xp penalty for anyone, the guy is disappointed give him a break
These are plate armor, and Iksar are unable to wear plate. Its not just Shamen who can't use their Kunark drops. Iksar Warriors cannot use Cobalt, and Shadow Knights cannot use Blood Ember. Sucks, but that's one of the racial disadvantages you sign up for along with Regen, nice stats, and an AC boost. :\
Scholar
33 posts
SKs can most definitely use Blood Ember. Some Blood Ember Gauntlets dropped in KC the other night and they are SK only. I don't know if this is a change Verant has made or just if your information was valid at the time of your post but we had a Troll SK in our group and since he was the only SK in our group we gladly gave him the Blood Ember Gauntlets. I am pleased that most people I meet on Norrath believe in the tenet need before greed, as I do. No one objected, although everyone in the group spoke their minds concerning whether to roll on the gauntlets or give to the SK. Since he was wearing gaunltets inferior to the Blood Ember we cheerfully gave them to him and congratulated him on his new toy. You never know when something is gonna drop while you're in group and the item is specifically for your class and the item is an upgrade to what you already posses. Like the Jaundice Bone Gauntlets dropping in KC while I was the only Shaman in the group. One person objected to NBG while the other five agreed with it. He disbanded in a huff, and wouldn't you know it, less than half an hour later an item dropped that was for his class only, which we would have cheerfully given to him. His greed and selfishness cost him a very nice item. But regarding the post, Shadow Knights can most certainly wear Blood Ember gear. Especially when the gauntlets stated Shadow Knights only. It pays to be nice and play nice. A lot of people may not remember you for a job well done while in a group but almost everyone will remember you for your greed and selfishness. Just something to keep in mind. :o)
I think you may have misread the post a bit. That, and it could be construed as being a bit vague. It says that "Iksar warriors cannot use cobalt, and shadow knights cannot use blood ember". The poster is speaking to the armors usable by Iksars, both warriors and SKs.
1 post
In your self efficating hurry to make your self feel good for being smart you failed to pay attention to details (omg pun). IKSAR SK can NOT use ember, kk?
Scholar
33 posts
As Syyklops said, the post was a little vague as to who or what couldn't use the JBBs. Of course Iksars CAN'T use them. They're plate.
But your attempt to be rude, for which you seem to have a knack, was uncalled for in any instance.
You say I was trying to be self efficating??? Self efficating??? You're saying I was attempting to be self efficient? Where? I think you'd better go ask your mommy or daddy what the word really means before you make even more a fool of yourself. Self efficating. Lmao.
Some people just can't help but be rude for the sake of being rude.
Prealia Predacious 55 Luminary of Drinal
But your attempt to be rude, for which you seem to have a knack, was uncalled for in any instance.
You say I was trying to be self efficating??? Self efficating??? You're saying I was attempting to be self efficient? Where? I think you'd better go ask your mommy or daddy what the word really means before you make even more a fool of yourself. Self efficating. Lmao.
Some people just can't help but be rude for the sake of being rude.
Prealia Predacious 55 Luminary of Drinal
#REDACTED,
Posted: Nov 08 2001 at 3:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just wanted to offer: I am currently offering a Barbarian Spiritist's Hammer (Drops of CT in Fear) for a JBB for anyone on the Bertox server.
7 posts
Hmmmm hammer isn't right click, you would be better off as a shaman with an icewurm fang and sbs, and the hammer is barb only. I don't think I see anyone trading a jbb for a spiritist hammer...
Anonymous
I would just like to say that its kinda funny how the effect on a shaman bracer is ten times better than the effect on the wizards velious quest robe. They robe casts enticement of flame a dd around 375dmg and has a cast time of 25-30secs, pretty damn lame if you ask me.
2 posts
JBB, has saved my shammy a few times, especially in Burning woods in search for spells. OOM and had 3 mobs to deal with, one with Ebolt and Plague in it, the other just rooted.
I managed all 3 but alot of running out of range after root and a CB once in a while to ensure mana for root.
I will never part with it, its comes in too handy to have when your are low on mana or oom.
My experience, its saves me many times and no long journeys back to loot my corpse, or search for a exp rez.
If you manage to get one, hang on to it as its will be a nice back up someday for you.
I bought mine in NFP, I know you wont believe this but 2 k is all it cost me. I really thought the guy was off his rocker, but he told me 3 days he advertise to sell it and everyone thought for the price he was selling vambracers.
Lucky me, I was in DL when he was selling and managed a gate to WC and took off running and still manage to grab it.
Lucky and loving it ...
I managed all 3 but alot of running out of range after root and a CB once in a while to ensure mana for root.
I will never part with it, its comes in too handy to have when your are low on mana or oom.
My experience, its saves me many times and no long journeys back to loot my corpse, or search for a exp rez.
If you manage to get one, hang on to it as its will be a nice back up someday for you.
I bought mine in NFP, I know you wont believe this but 2 k is all it cost me. I really thought the guy was off his rocker, but he told me 3 days he advertise to sell it and everyone thought for the price he was selling vambracers.
Lucky me, I was in DL when he was selling and managed a gate to WC and took off running and still manage to grab it.
Lucky and loving it ...
what lvl can i get into a group to get this item?
thanx :)
Larendan Nitewolf
35 Winter Shaman of Lanys
Coalition of Power
p.s. i know it will be awhile but what am i looking at? 45ish?
p.p.s. or should anyone have one for sale on lanys lemme know!we can work something out Larendan@visto.com
thanx :)
Larendan Nitewolf
35 Winter Shaman of Lanys
Coalition of Power
p.s. i know it will be awhile but what am i looking at? 45ish?
p.p.s. or should anyone have one for sale on lanys lemme know!we can work something out Larendan@visto.com
53+ To camp the emperor room... So I have 8 to go... or 12k more to raise =(
#Anonymous,
Posted: Oct 16 2001 at 9:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If anyone on trovonlous server plz send me a tell.. atm i almost have 10k.. and will also maybe put in a trade as well....name is manbarb
6 posts
this item is by far the best shaman item in the game or very near the best, I got one of the first on bertox server and have been offered over 50k twice and turned it down.Yeah that was sometime ago but you get my point. I use it so much I wouldn't know what to do without it. if you get one of these and if your a shaman DO NOT GIVE IT UP, you will have no idea how much easier life becomes. Velendil 58th lvl barb shaman.
Anonymous
This is without a doubt the best item I have ever gotten in EQ so far.
-It has a casting time of approx. 8 sec.
-Cold based damage spell (winter's roar) =263 dmg
Here's why this item ROCKS.
1) I pull with Malise (60 mana)[cheap] to lower Cold resist.
2) Run to safe spot, and root[30mana] I use root because it is 1/2 the mana of enstill, and when using DD's, enstill breaks after 1-3 nukes. Root seems to last thru more nukes, and is cheaper/ faster to cast.
3) I use blind [12mana] so that when root breaks, I can re-root without it hitting me, as the mob runs in a random direction for a time.
4)When its all said and done, I've killed a mob and have FM or at least 95% left. It's not a big nuke, but if used repeatedly, it is VERY effective at killing mobs. Takes just about as long as our dot at 49, assuming no resists.
My solo ability just quadrupled. Most shaman won't give one up, or if they will....they want an arm and a leg for it.
Sincerely,
The one armed, one legged shaman
-It has a casting time of approx. 8 sec.
-Cold based damage spell (winter's roar) =263 dmg
Here's why this item ROCKS.
1) I pull with Malise (60 mana)[cheap] to lower Cold resist.
2) Run to safe spot, and root[30mana] I use root because it is 1/2 the mana of enstill, and when using DD's, enstill breaks after 1-3 nukes. Root seems to last thru more nukes, and is cheaper/ faster to cast.
3) I use blind [12mana] so that when root breaks, I can re-root without it hitting me, as the mob runs in a random direction for a time.
4)When its all said and done, I've killed a mob and have FM or at least 95% left. It's not a big nuke, but if used repeatedly, it is VERY effective at killing mobs. Takes just about as long as our dot at 49, assuming no resists.
My solo ability just quadrupled. Most shaman won't give one up, or if they will....they want an arm and a leg for it.
Sincerely,
The one armed, one legged shaman
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 19 2001 at 2:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) All I want to say is I very agree to padst's post.
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Just got one of these, very lucky, only took 4 months of camping to finally win the roll on it. So to the people who have one these, is it a better soloing with it or grouping or partnering with someone like a druid. Haven't had time to try it out extensively. And what method do you guys use, root, enstill, turgurs, pet, etc?? Appreciate any info on this matter.
55th season Sham
nameless
55th season Sham
nameless
Anonymous
Can an Iksar Shaman use this effect, even though he/she can not wear it?
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 13 2001 at 6:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I believed this to be nerfed or dropped from game...any truth to this??
1 post
I really don't understand why the Jaundiced Bone Bracers go for 13-14k on most sites that give estimated values. Heck, if I could get one for 13k, i'd buy 10. Lets face is, the only people that have these are Shamans, and they won't give them up for the world. If your REALLY lucky, you might catch one auctioned every 3 weeks or so in East Commons, or Gfay. You send them a tell and they want the world for it. After 3 and a half months of trying to get one, I finally caught a guy and started filabustering him with offers (distracting him from other offers). I ended up giving him an entire monk twink package for it (2 Master Wu's Trance Sticks, 2 Knuckle Dusters, Robe of Living Fungus and a FBSS). I'd say thats close to 30k worth of cheeze... but ye know what... it's worth every penny.
Now i'll tell you why it's worth it. You can kill any green without spending anything more than 'Root' mana (Giants/Drovlogs...). In a group (namely Karnors), you can save all your mana for Buffs (and be a good little shaman), Regrowth yourself, and throw in 2 Canibalizes in between nukes. Think about it... every 10 seconds, you contribute 256 damage while buffing... Fights last what? 25-30 seconds? well you chucked out almost a 1k in damage and still have mana to keep your sharks teeth sharp.
There is only ONE draw back to the item. Once you start casting it, you can't stop the casting time (a full 8 seconds), this can keep you from getting that CRITICLE heal out to your enchanter once he gets jumped... and this might make your group angry with you... so shamans BE CAREFUL... when you first got your pet, you became a liability to the group, now that can afford to do your job and do caster damage it's the same thing, you gotta learn to adjust.
I hope this post was helpful!
Pabst Oban <White Wolf Clan>
Tribunal Server
Now i'll tell you why it's worth it. You can kill any green without spending anything more than 'Root' mana (Giants/Drovlogs...). In a group (namely Karnors), you can save all your mana for Buffs (and be a good little shaman), Regrowth yourself, and throw in 2 Canibalizes in between nukes. Think about it... every 10 seconds, you contribute 256 damage while buffing... Fights last what? 25-30 seconds? well you chucked out almost a 1k in damage and still have mana to keep your sharks teeth sharp.
There is only ONE draw back to the item. Once you start casting it, you can't stop the casting time (a full 8 seconds), this can keep you from getting that CRITICLE heal out to your enchanter once he gets jumped... and this might make your group angry with you... so shamans BE CAREFUL... when you first got your pet, you became a liability to the group, now that can afford to do your job and do caster damage it's the same thing, you gotta learn to adjust.
I hope this post was helpful!
Pabst Oban <White Wolf Clan>
Tribunal Server
Scholar
30 posts
With the new Duck code in game, you can interrupt the casting of the armor pieces with a simple duck without having to wait out the casting time. Just FYI. ;)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 09 2001 at 4:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not true...I was a warrior in a Sebilis raid WITHOUT A SHAMAN available. We went in and got 2 Jaundiced drops. One of the helms dropped and I won the roll on it (again, no Shaman were in the fight). That's how a warrior ended up with the Shaman only helm. I could see the same thing happenind with this bracer.
15 posts
I've heard that the JBB doesn't drop anymore...
Is this true? Please say it's not. I was really looking forward to getting one.
Arilious - 36 Barb Shaman
Cazic-Thule
Is this true? Please say it's not. I was really looking forward to getting one.
Arilious - 36 Barb Shaman
Cazic-Thule
49 posts
I just got one last night
Anonymous
Actually to cast the normal spell "Winter's Roar" the cast time is 4 seconds. To cast the spell on the bracer however the cast time is doubled to 8 seconds. There is no recast time on it. It is a cold based 263 point cold based DD though. I can take down hill giant with about 11 nukes from my bracer and only using enough mana to keep it rooted (half a bub of mana). =P
Winter's Roar is a cold-based direct damage spell that hits for 263 points when unresisted. The spell casting time is 4 seconds; I believe the recast time for the bracer is double that, or 8 seconds.
I don't have one yet, but I'm watching the markets pretty hard in the hopes that one becomes available. PLUG: If you have a one to trade away on Drinal, look me up. : )
I don't have one yet, but I'm watching the markets pretty hard in the hopes that one becomes available. PLUG: If you have a one to trade away on Drinal, look me up. : )
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