Teir`Dal Adamantite Breastplate
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35 posts
I just bought one on Luclin server for 300pp for my sk. This thing has sweet stats and doesn't have any diety restriction so maybe they changed it.
There are actually 3 separate sets of Teir'dal Adamantite Armor: 1) uses unenchanted adamantite {no stats other then AC}. 2)uses enchanted adamantite {good stats but no wisdom} 3) uses enchanted adamantite and an imbued sapphire which adds WISDOM and diety restriction INNORUUK. You probably got the enchanted / unimbued version.
Elasia D'Aetolus
52 Shadowknight
"Vengeance of Sin"
~~E'ci~~
Edited, Wed Sep 29 15:16:42 2004
Elasia D'Aetolus
52 Shadowknight
"Vengeance of Sin"
~~E'ci~~
Edited, Wed Sep 29 15:16:42 2004
28 posts
Just would like to know if there's a Teir'Dal bp around the same stats thats good for non inny followers? I'm a DE warrior and I follow Rallos Zek. I've bought some Teir'Dal Armor already with good stats on that don't have the diety ristrictions on them. (Gloves and neck) So would like to know if theres a bp without any diety ristriction on it, thanks.
This one, in fact. I'm looking at one right now and there's no deity restriction. They must have changed it.
this suit is AWESOME for DE clerics.
it adds 42 wis and loads of AC, and with no recommended lvl you can twink out a lvl 1 cleric with this stuff and rule the newb zone.
it adds 42 wis and loads of AC, and with no recommended lvl you can twink out a lvl 1 cleric with this stuff and rule the newb zone.
19 posts
Personally, I don't see why anybody would try to make this set in favor of enchanted armor set. (unless that person happens to be a cleric.)
Enchanted set and imbued set are about all the same set of armor in terms of everything else but Wis bonus. Unless dark elves get to play a wisdom-based hybrid (ranger, paladin) i don't see why the wis bonus should be important.
Enchanted set and imbued set are about all the same set of armor in terms of everything else but Wis bonus. Unless dark elves get to play a wisdom-based hybrid (ranger, paladin) i don't see why the wis bonus should be important.
My DEF cleric has a full suit of this, except she is wearing a Sebilite Scale Coat instead of the BP (2 more each on the STR and WIS, but 4 less AC).
Also got some of the non-enchanted pieces for my HEF bard as the DEX and INT boosts on some of these items (like the BP) are great (got some mithril pieces as well to even out the CHA).
Also got some of the non-enchanted pieces for my HEF bard as the DEX and INT boosts on some of these items (like the BP) are great (got some mithril pieces as well to even out the CHA).
13 posts
My Dark Elf Cleric is loving that wisdom bonus :) A full suit of this is very nice btw.
Viru L`Ent - 54th Channeler (Smith)
Ellisi Winterbourne - 55th Knight (Fletcher)
Callel Eol - 49th Cleric (Savior)
All on Fennin Ro
Viru L`Ent - 54th Channeler (Smith)
Ellisi Winterbourne - 55th Knight (Fletcher)
Callel Eol - 49th Cleric (Savior)
All on Fennin Ro
19 posts
DE cleric would love this set, I can see. :)
The thing is, though, that's about all the purpose the imbued set serves better than enchanted set. Basically, this set is screaming out "This set is for DE Clerics!" You know, just like the rotten high-elven cultural armor set, which is screaming out "This set is exclusively for BARDS!"
Another thing:
Half elves can use this, and Bards can wear this, as long as they serve INNORUUK. Somebody up there must be smoking some crack, or the recent patch has got DE Bards (which I have never heard of, btw! LOL)
Edited, Sun Dec 15 23:56:48 2002
The thing is, though, that's about all the purpose the imbued set serves better than enchanted set. Basically, this set is screaming out "This set is for DE Clerics!" You know, just like the rotten high-elven cultural armor set, which is screaming out "This set is exclusively for BARDS!"
Another thing:
Half elves can use this, and Bards can wear this, as long as they serve INNORUUK. Somebody up there must be smoking some crack, or the recent patch has got DE Bards (which I have never heard of, btw! LOL)
Edited, Sun Dec 15 23:56:48 2002
More facts for Miztress ( see below ). One full suit of this Fancy Armor assuming you dont blow it and NOT counting the wonderful unstackable Enchanted Adamantite Chain Jointing will ONLY require.... 63 ENCHANTED LARGE BRICKS OF ADAMANTITE !!! ( tidbit for ya the 20 bricks my cleric was lugging put her at 322 wt.)
<sarcasm> I cannot understand why my guild enchanter pitched a fit when I asked him to zap 63 LARGE BRICKS of ADAMANTITE for me. No I need ya to stand by the racial forge while I turn them into BLOCKS then into Folded ( stackable ) Sheets please. Come on buddie as a favor to me! Please ! Lol I can See SOME FOLKS doing that in guild chat.Im sorry many of us with a soul loath thoes evil guildmates who play the game like your time is no big deal. The same pond scumm that reward you with a Gee Thanks Alot Pal for spending the day helping me "I owe ya one". <reality check> It took me months and cold Hard CASH$$$$ to aquire enough Enchanted Adamantite to make a FULL SUIT. 350 out of pocket.... Please spare me your FUZZY MATH. STOP COOKING THE BOOKS BABY :)
Valria
<sarcasm> I cannot understand why my guild enchanter pitched a fit when I asked him to zap 63 LARGE BRICKS of ADAMANTITE for me. No I need ya to stand by the racial forge while I turn them into BLOCKS then into Folded ( stackable ) Sheets please. Come on buddie as a favor to me! Please ! Lol I can See SOME FOLKS doing that in guild chat.Im sorry many of us with a soul loath thoes evil guildmates who play the game like your time is no big deal. The same pond scumm that reward you with a Gee Thanks Alot Pal for spending the day helping me "I owe ya one". <reality check> It took me months and cold Hard CASH$$$$ to aquire enough Enchanted Adamantite to make a FULL SUIT. 350 out of pocket.... Please spare me your FUZZY MATH. STOP COOKING THE BOOKS BABY :)
Valria
Ok folks I am here to add to Miztress the Malevolent ( READ POST BELOW MINE FIRST ) and her nice way of breaking down this fine armor into a buyer friendly joke. 350pp per BP I think she said ( Oh not counting time to farm ). Well folks I am here to break down the "FARM" part and the MOST important thing used to make this armor.... TIME !
1. I dont know about you folks but I have a job and go to school. Unlike most of the lifeless losers who play this game 20hrs / 7 days a week.
2. I do not have a 49 enchanter "MULE" I think someone refered to it in a post.
3. Farming this stuff is how should I say....BRUTAL! Essence and the Elf Blood !
4. If you are a do it yourself tradeskill person like myself your looking at a lot of work. Even if you have mates helping. You dont just 'cook' this stuff up real fast before you join your mates on a Old Seb raid. Hell by the time I got my silks to make thread, my pelts to make padding, my essence of shadow then booked passage on that accursed boat to O.O.T. only to spend endless hours of farming thoes woodelves I was half looped I tell ya. Oh then I had the joy of finding an enchanter who was not busy ! That was after I had to clear out half my bank acct. to make room for the thousand LARGE BRICKS of ADAMANTITE that are unstackable and have that dandy 3 large brick to 1 BLOCK ratio ! Then off I went to find that 49th enchanter who had nothing to do but enchant my thousand large bricks of ADAMANTITE for me. You should not have any problems finding one who works for FREE ! <Massive sarcasm for thoes of you who are a little slow>
5. OK I think im on step 5 now??? Anyway got my thousand large bricks of ADAMANTITE enchanted from that nice Enchanter who sells C3 for 100pp per pop... Only stuck me for 10pp per large brick. Paid him because I couldnt find anyone Insane enough to do it for FREE! Ok now we take 3 large bricks + Neriak Nectar=BLOCK ! WHOOT ! did that for an hour making a few trips back to the bank. Now take that BLOCK + Neriak Nectar + Teir'dal Hammer= FOLDED SHEET OF ADAMANTITE!! JOY IT STACKS ! Now for the Chain jointing.... Large Brick of Enchanted + Neriak Nectar+ File DOH FORGOT MY FILE..... Back to the bank!!!
OK folks im jumping ahead to step 102. PRICE THIS STUFF TO SELL !!! WHOOT $$$ BIG BUCKS $$$ IM RICH $$$ Humm... better check Allakhazam to make sure I dont get robbed. <click,click,> <GASP> Miztress the Malevolent says only 350pp per BP AAAAAGGGGGGGG!!!! IM RUINED ! /shout Honey where is my gun??
WEll folks after the 6 months in... well lets just say Hospital for the Overworked :) I am happy to tell you I have worked up a fool proof formula for this Fine Armor !
350pp ( as per Miztress )
2650pp for my FRIGGING TIME !!! (AS PER MY DOCTOR)
TOTAL PRICE 3k ! Give or take upon your mood !
Works for me hope I gave you folks some idea on how to price this stuff :)
Have a nice day VALRIA !
Edited, Sun Oct 13 07:35:54 2002
1. I dont know about you folks but I have a job and go to school. Unlike most of the lifeless losers who play this game 20hrs / 7 days a week.
2. I do not have a 49 enchanter "MULE" I think someone refered to it in a post.
3. Farming this stuff is how should I say....BRUTAL! Essence and the Elf Blood !
4. If you are a do it yourself tradeskill person like myself your looking at a lot of work. Even if you have mates helping. You dont just 'cook' this stuff up real fast before you join your mates on a Old Seb raid. Hell by the time I got my silks to make thread, my pelts to make padding, my essence of shadow then booked passage on that accursed boat to O.O.T. only to spend endless hours of farming thoes woodelves I was half looped I tell ya. Oh then I had the joy of finding an enchanter who was not busy ! That was after I had to clear out half my bank acct. to make room for the thousand LARGE BRICKS of ADAMANTITE that are unstackable and have that dandy 3 large brick to 1 BLOCK ratio ! Then off I went to find that 49th enchanter who had nothing to do but enchant my thousand large bricks of ADAMANTITE for me. You should not have any problems finding one who works for FREE ! <Massive sarcasm for thoes of you who are a little slow>
5. OK I think im on step 5 now??? Anyway got my thousand large bricks of ADAMANTITE enchanted from that nice Enchanter who sells C3 for 100pp per pop... Only stuck me for 10pp per large brick. Paid him because I couldnt find anyone Insane enough to do it for FREE! Ok now we take 3 large bricks + Neriak Nectar=BLOCK ! WHOOT ! did that for an hour making a few trips back to the bank. Now take that BLOCK + Neriak Nectar + Teir'dal Hammer= FOLDED SHEET OF ADAMANTITE!! JOY IT STACKS ! Now for the Chain jointing.... Large Brick of Enchanted + Neriak Nectar+ File DOH FORGOT MY FILE..... Back to the bank!!!
OK folks im jumping ahead to step 102. PRICE THIS STUFF TO SELL !!! WHOOT $$$ BIG BUCKS $$$ IM RICH $$$ Humm... better check Allakhazam to make sure I dont get robbed. <click,click,> <GASP> Miztress the Malevolent says only 350pp per BP AAAAAGGGGGGGG!!!! IM RUINED ! /shout Honey where is my gun??
WEll folks after the 6 months in... well lets just say Hospital for the Overworked :) I am happy to tell you I have worked up a fool proof formula for this Fine Armor !
350pp ( as per Miztress )
2650pp for my FRIGGING TIME !!! (AS PER MY DOCTOR)
TOTAL PRICE 3k ! Give or take upon your mood !
Works for me hope I gave you folks some idea on how to price this stuff :)
Have a nice day VALRIA !
Edited, Sun Oct 13 07:35:54 2002
14 posts
Just to clarify some of the data and misinformation with the below posts.
The AC on four of the available pieces, bracers, guantlets, vambraces and greaves have been uprated to give a complete set of Teir'Dal Adamamtite (Innoruuk)ie imbued, the new figures of:
AC 172
STR +41
DEX +52
INT +52
WIS +42
AGI +26
Weight 35.7
1. As corrected below this armour does not require blue diamonds to make only an imbued saphire (app 107plat w/ faction and cha)
2. The cost per piece is nowhere near 3k closer to 80pp per sheet used, either 1,2 or 3 sheets are required, add 1 set of adamamtite rings, approx 15plat, 1 mold at 5 to 25pp and 107plat for the gem, so a BP would be approx 350plat. However that does not allow for the cost and time of farming the tempers, silks,pelts etc, nor for the time and plat invested to get your smith to mid 200's to take a decent crack at making the armour.
3. Teir'Dal racial armour cannot be imbued if it is not enchanted, if it is enchanted only then it is has an easier triv to make, doesn't require the use of an imbued saphire and loses all of the wisdom bonuses.
4. If you wish to see the look of the armour, the link above at this time is incorrect and shows the Teir'Dal chain, not the plate. It looks very similiar to plate and is a dark blue, the boots are dark,dark blue almost black.
5. If you are interested in a set or pieces on the Torv' server then send a tell to "Miztress".
Edited, Thu Jul 25 14:23:04 2002
The AC on four of the available pieces, bracers, guantlets, vambraces and greaves have been uprated to give a complete set of Teir'Dal Adamamtite (Innoruuk)ie imbued, the new figures of:
AC 172
STR +41
DEX +52
INT +52
WIS +42
AGI +26
Weight 35.7
1. As corrected below this armour does not require blue diamonds to make only an imbued saphire (app 107plat w/ faction and cha)
2. The cost per piece is nowhere near 3k closer to 80pp per sheet used, either 1,2 or 3 sheets are required, add 1 set of adamamtite rings, approx 15plat, 1 mold at 5 to 25pp and 107plat for the gem, so a BP would be approx 350plat. However that does not allow for the cost and time of farming the tempers, silks,pelts etc, nor for the time and plat invested to get your smith to mid 200's to take a decent crack at making the armour.
3. Teir'Dal racial armour cannot be imbued if it is not enchanted, if it is enchanted only then it is has an easier triv to make, doesn't require the use of an imbued saphire and loses all of the wisdom bonuses.
4. If you wish to see the look of the armour, the link above at this time is incorrect and shows the Teir'Dal chain, not the plate. It looks very similiar to plate and is a dark blue, the boots are dark,dark blue almost black.
5. If you are interested in a set or pieces on the Torv' server then send a tell to "Miztress".
Edited, Thu Jul 25 14:23:04 2002
25 posts
With best CHA and Faction this costs 302pp 6gp 7sp 8cp to make, not including the dropped components.
However, the price to buy from a smith who has made one IS around 2.5 to 3K, simply because of the inordinate time and effort it takes to get to a point where you can reliably make such a thing.
Mid 200 skill is not required, I have been making this stuff with 80% sucess for some time now at a skill of 192 (+geerlock).
Kc
However, the price to buy from a smith who has made one IS around 2.5 to 3K, simply because of the inordinate time and effort it takes to get to a point where you can reliably make such a thing.
Mid 200 skill is not required, I have been making this stuff with 80% sucess for some time now at a skill of 192 (+geerlock).
Kc
Scholar
29 posts
I have started to make the DE cultural armor. If anyone is interested in negotiating, send me a tell in game on the Povar server.
Jacklyn
Shadowkight of 23rd season.
Jacklyn
Shadowkight of 23rd season.
44 posts
unless your in a near ubber guild or have alot of really really good friends that are...your not making this armor....
the blue diamonds needed to enchant the ores are rare drops in the planes, or you could buy them for 2k pp at vendors (very very rare to see them there)or pay even more to other players auctioning them ( up to 5k+ in auctions)
lets take a look ... 1 breastplate needs 3 blue diamonds, 6k, then add everything else you'll need (around 1k for the things you need to buy).... 7k+ per attempt and you'll probably need multiple attempts ... wow, your looking at possably spending near 50k+ to make a full set of this stuff and if you can get the gems yourself on a raid then you don't need the armor because you'll have better or will have much better armor avalable to you
the only people that can realisticly make this are full blown raiding guilds and chances are ,they are too busy to waste time on blacksmithing armor that won't sell for what its worth (based on the rediculious amount of effort needed and the very high costs to craft it)
Save up your plat, theres better stuff that has resistances you can buy without wasting all your time and energy on this stuff that is no longer meant to be made by the people that need it...
I've stoped dreaming about making this stuff and have decided to go solo my Sky Shrine quest armor .. its more realistic.
Thanks for the fun Verent... =/
Nineva Delamortei
53 Sk
what!? you mean i'm getting banned for soloing?!?! <<< the future?
the blue diamonds needed to enchant the ores are rare drops in the planes, or you could buy them for 2k pp at vendors (very very rare to see them there)or pay even more to other players auctioning them ( up to 5k+ in auctions)
lets take a look ... 1 breastplate needs 3 blue diamonds, 6k, then add everything else you'll need (around 1k for the things you need to buy).... 7k+ per attempt and you'll probably need multiple attempts ... wow, your looking at possably spending near 50k+ to make a full set of this stuff and if you can get the gems yourself on a raid then you don't need the armor because you'll have better or will have much better armor avalable to you
the only people that can realisticly make this are full blown raiding guilds and chances are ,they are too busy to waste time on blacksmithing armor that won't sell for what its worth (based on the rediculious amount of effort needed and the very high costs to craft it)
Save up your plat, theres better stuff that has resistances you can buy without wasting all your time and energy on this stuff that is no longer meant to be made by the people that need it...
I've stoped dreaming about making this stuff and have decided to go solo my Sky Shrine quest armor .. its more realistic.
Thanks for the fun Verent... =/
Nineva Delamortei
53 Sk
what!? you mean i'm getting banned for soloing?!?! <<< the future?
3 posts
3 posts
Since when are Blue Diamonds required to enchant the ore for this armor? Looking up the spell...
Enchant Adamantite
Classes:
Enchanter level 49
Scroll info:
Sold at vendors
Found in zones:
Neriak 3rd Gate
Description:
Summoning Bar of Enchanted Adamantium
Details:
Mana: 325
Casting Time: 6.00 seconds
Recast Time: 0 seconds
Skill: Alteration
Allowed Targets: Self
Resist: None
Range to target: 0
Messages:
Reageant:
Large Block of Adamantium (1)
I don't see any blue diamonds required here /shrug
Enchant Adamantite
Classes:
Enchanter level 49
Scroll info:
Sold at vendors
Found in zones:
Neriak 3rd Gate
Description:
Summoning Bar of Enchanted Adamantium
Details:
Mana: 325
Casting Time: 6.00 seconds
Recast Time: 0 seconds
Skill: Alteration
Allowed Targets: Self
Resist: None
Range to target: 0
Messages:
Reageant:
Large Block of Adamantium (1)
I don't see any blue diamonds required here /shrug
This is an Imbued peice, which requires a gem. However, it requires a black sapphire, not blue diamond.
41 posts
Did they change this? i know that at one time they had to have a blue diamond to enchant adamantite, which was the main reason i gave up on smithing, but according to Keeron ( and i went a checked) it dosnt appear that is the case any more? can anyone shed light on this?
I am starting a Dark Elf Shadow Knight soon and want a full set of this armor for him. I will provide all the stuff to make it, just need someone with the skill. We can work things out in game, send me a /tell. Name is Enfiniti and I'm on Ayonae Ro.
10 posts
Could someone post a pict. of this armor.Im having a friend make my twink a set.And does anyone know if this can be dyed allso.
Ok, after hours of research I have managed to create a great spreadsheet for all of the adamantite armor for DEF smiths. The stats for a full set of Imbued Teir'Dal Fine Plate (must use enchanted blocks too) are as follows:
AC 164
STR +41
DEX +52
INT +52
WIS +42
AGI +26
Weight 35.7
These stats are phenominal for the total weight of 35.7 pounds!! Innuurok only DEF & HEF may wear. Classes are WAR, CLR, SHD, BRD. The cost to attempt each piece just one time with no failures at any point along the way is a minimum of 3100pp for a smith. This is using a mule ench with ally faction and 126 CHA to buy all the components. This does not include the cost of getting bricks enchanted, killing shadow men for the essence of shadow, getting sapphire imbued by a cleric, killing elves to get elf blood, killing spiderlings, wolves, bears or cats to get make leather padding. Cost also does not include efforts to get brewing skill to 135 for the shadow temper and tailoring up to about 30 for the leather padding. As you can see it is very time consuming and costly. I would estimate a full set to sell in the range of 8k to 10k on any given server. At least that is what I will be selling it for on the Zebuxoruk server in the near future.
The imbued adamantite chainmail is just as good for all DEF including pure casters. Stats are less but total weight is only 9 pounds!!! Full set to sell for about 3k to 4k.
AC 164
STR +41
DEX +52
INT +52
WIS +42
AGI +26
Weight 35.7
These stats are phenominal for the total weight of 35.7 pounds!! Innuurok only DEF & HEF may wear. Classes are WAR, CLR, SHD, BRD. The cost to attempt each piece just one time with no failures at any point along the way is a minimum of 3100pp for a smith. This is using a mule ench with ally faction and 126 CHA to buy all the components. This does not include the cost of getting bricks enchanted, killing shadow men for the essence of shadow, getting sapphire imbued by a cleric, killing elves to get elf blood, killing spiderlings, wolves, bears or cats to get make leather padding. Cost also does not include efforts to get brewing skill to 135 for the shadow temper and tailoring up to about 30 for the leather padding. As you can see it is very time consuming and costly. I would estimate a full set to sell in the range of 8k to 10k on any given server. At least that is what I will be selling it for on the Zebuxoruk server in the near future.
The imbued adamantite chainmail is just as good for all DEF including pure casters. Stats are less but total weight is only 9 pounds!!! Full set to sell for about 3k to 4k.
28 posts
if i buy all the supplies can someone on the veeshan server make this for me?
Anonymous
i play only dark elves so i will throw in my two coppers
A: 99 out of 100 lighties will attack you. hands down
B: most players get to frustrated to play their dark elven characters because rivervale is a well placed bow shot from neriak and every shortie with half assed equipment from lvl 1-6 prepares for thier pk'ing future,
"You have entered nektulos forest"
C: unless you kill scores of monsters IE: orcs, gnolls every guard that see's you:
"corporal jenkins slashes you for 165 points of damage"
D:until recently one of the major reasons to play a darkie was access to the only place to buy enchant ore spells BTW i loved watching poeple give the librarian hundreds of bottles of red wine
FINALLY to hell with all you lighty's and your ****** whining attitudes i say bring it if you cant make good armor then you suck. its fun seeing every one band together to take down some little twinked shortie or lighty
and every time i sneak into one of your beloved cities the adrenaline shoots up and you wonder will there be a guard or a PC with see invis, the reason we get good armor and other items is because people want to kill us everywhere we go, god i love that, so to all you people whinning about fashion and power rating's . think about how good we look on our corpse runs.
"my three platinum"
DE rogue
Vallon zek
A: 99 out of 100 lighties will attack you. hands down
B: most players get to frustrated to play their dark elven characters because rivervale is a well placed bow shot from neriak and every shortie with half assed equipment from lvl 1-6 prepares for thier pk'ing future,
"You have entered nektulos forest"
C: unless you kill scores of monsters IE: orcs, gnolls every guard that see's you:
"corporal jenkins slashes you for 165 points of damage"
D:until recently one of the major reasons to play a darkie was access to the only place to buy enchant ore spells BTW i loved watching poeple give the librarian hundreds of bottles of red wine
FINALLY to hell with all you lighty's and your ****** whining attitudes i say bring it if you cant make good armor then you suck. its fun seeing every one band together to take down some little twinked shortie or lighty
and every time i sneak into one of your beloved cities the adrenaline shoots up and you wonder will there be a guard or a PC with see invis, the reason we get good armor and other items is because people want to kill us everywhere we go, god i love that, so to all you people whinning about fashion and power rating's . think about how good we look on our corpse runs.
"my three platinum"
DE rogue
Vallon zek
ello, if anyone can make this on morell lemme know,thanx :)
I'm on Ayonae Ro. I'm a high elf enchanter, and a smith. I'm willing to discuss trading high elven enchanter plate for dwarven enchanted plate. I will even enchant your bricks, whatever they may be.
First of, to be precise, this is Enchanted Imbued Tier'Dal Adamantite plate. The Tier'Dal plate comes in 3 varieties. The plain type (not enchanted or imbued), the enchanted type (Enchanted adamantium but no imbued gems), and enchanted imbued (enchanted adamantium and imbued gem). The straight enchanted Tier'Dal plate, does not have the wis bonus, nor does it have the Innoruuk restriction. So, Half Elf bards would want the straight enchanted version of Tier'Dal plate, since they really don't need the Wis bonus. Also, there is no such thing as Imbued non-enchanted Tier'Dal plate. If it is to be imbued, it must also be enchanted, but it can be enchanted without being imbued. Finally, I don't believe that Tier'Dal plate can be imbued with anything other than a Sapphire for Innoruuk. Haven't tried any other gems myself, but have not seen mention of it on any other website.
In conclusion, the enchanted Tier'Dal plate would be awesome for warriors and unbelieveable for Shadow Knights. The Imbued enchanted Tier'Dal plate would be great for clerics. However, I will concede that for Warriors and clerics, the dorf cultural stuff would be statistically better.
But, Tier'Dal Adamantium plate has this beautiful blue color... much like the bard class armor from the temple of Solusek Ro. So, if statistics are you main concern, go with the dorf stuff. If you are fashion concious, go with the Tier'Dal stuff.
Mortiis X'Ian
46th Tier'Dal Necromancer
Master Blacksmith
Master Baker
Grand Master fashion consultan.
In conclusion, the enchanted Tier'Dal plate would be awesome for warriors and unbelieveable for Shadow Knights. The Imbued enchanted Tier'Dal plate would be great for clerics. However, I will concede that for Warriors and clerics, the dorf cultural stuff would be statistically better.
But, Tier'Dal Adamantium plate has this beautiful blue color... much like the bard class armor from the temple of Solusek Ro. So, if statistics are you main concern, go with the dorf stuff. If you are fashion concious, go with the Tier'Dal stuff.
Mortiis X'Ian
46th Tier'Dal Necromancer
Master Blacksmith
Master Baker
Grand Master fashion consultan.
"So, if statistics are you main concern, go with the dorf stuff. If you are fashion concious, go with the Tier'Dal stuff."
Its a bit hard to have that choice since you have to be a dwarf for one making the other choice moot.
Anonymous
Who cares whats best....if you are a dwarf you can even use a DE armor...
38 posts
Dwarven armor is better than Dark-elven armor, if you're a warrior or cleric. Otherwise, for the hybrid and caster classes, the High-elven and Dark-elven cultural armors are incredible!!!
I'm going off of memory here, but Enchanted Imbued Berrelium(dwarven) Plate Breastplate has 28AC, +8 STR, +10 STA, +4 WIS, +5 sv fire, and weighs 11.5 stones. If you're a warrior of ANY race, which breastplate would you prefer to wear? The dwarven or the dark-elven? Dwarven armor is amazing for dwarven warriors, pallys and clerics.
Here's a comparison of the dwarven and DE armors:
Dwarven Enchanted/Imbued(Brell) Brellium Armor:
166 AC
+59 STR
+68 STA
+43 WIS
+40 sv fire
+35 sv magic
74 total weight
(full 13-peice set. wearable by dwarves, gnomes and halflings of brell. If you don't imbue the armor with a ruby(Brell), then take away all +WIS bonus, and it's no longer restricted to Brell worshipers.)
Dark-Elven Enchanted/Imbued (Innorok) Adamantie:
164 AC
+37 STR
+52 DEX
+26 AGIL
+52 INT
+42 WIS
36 total weight.
(full 13-peice suit. wearable by dark-elves and half-elves. If not imbued with a fire emerald(innorok), lower int and wis by 25.)
Don't get me wrong here...I happen to think the dark-elven armor is the finest all-round armor in the game for hybrids. Infact, my half-elven bard and half-elven warrior WANT this armor.
I play a human cleric of rodcet nife on the Lanys T'Vyl server. (Name is Zaughn.) I'm in the process of working up my smithing. Currently at 165. If any darkevles are looking to make an even trade -- human enchanted/imbued cultural armor for dark-elven cultural armor, let me know. Both my bard and warrior (who are both half-elven and both worship rallos zek) could use this stuff. I'd prefer to have the visible peices be dark-elven, and the non-visible peices be human cultural (since half-elves get to wear both. Oh, half-elves also get to wear high-elven cultural armor. hehe, big advantage of playing a half-elf actualy. Too bad they can't forge the stuff -- only wear it.)
I'm going off of memory here, but Enchanted Imbued Berrelium(dwarven) Plate Breastplate has 28AC, +8 STR, +10 STA, +4 WIS, +5 sv fire, and weighs 11.5 stones. If you're a warrior of ANY race, which breastplate would you prefer to wear? The dwarven or the dark-elven? Dwarven armor is amazing for dwarven warriors, pallys and clerics.
Here's a comparison of the dwarven and DE armors:
Dwarven Enchanted/Imbued(Brell) Brellium Armor:
166 AC
+59 STR
+68 STA
+43 WIS
+40 sv fire
+35 sv magic
74 total weight
(full 13-peice set. wearable by dwarves, gnomes and halflings of brell. If you don't imbue the armor with a ruby(Brell), then take away all +WIS bonus, and it's no longer restricted to Brell worshipers.)
Dark-Elven Enchanted/Imbued (Innorok) Adamantie:
164 AC
+37 STR
+52 DEX
+26 AGIL
+52 INT
+42 WIS
36 total weight.
(full 13-peice suit. wearable by dark-elves and half-elves. If not imbued with a fire emerald(innorok), lower int and wis by 25.)
Don't get me wrong here...I happen to think the dark-elven armor is the finest all-round armor in the game for hybrids. Infact, my half-elven bard and half-elven warrior WANT this armor.
I play a human cleric of rodcet nife on the Lanys T'Vyl server. (Name is Zaughn.) I'm in the process of working up my smithing. Currently at 165. If any darkevles are looking to make an even trade -- human enchanted/imbued cultural armor for dark-elven cultural armor, let me know. Both my bard and warrior (who are both half-elven and both worship rallos zek) could use this stuff. I'd prefer to have the visible peices be dark-elven, and the non-visible peices be human cultural (since half-elves get to wear both. Oh, half-elves also get to wear high-elven cultural armor. hehe, big advantage of playing a half-elf actualy. Too bad they can't forge the stuff -- only wear it.)
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I don't have the numbers on hand, but I remember reading a debate on the eqtraders.com website about why high elven koa'dal (imbued and enchanted) had better stats than the other clerical armors. I even remember a specific post from one of the short fellows voicing his discontent on the fact that the dwarves are supposedly known for their smithing and fantastic metallurgy. I may be wrong here, if anyone has the exact numbers on high elf/dwarven imbued and enchanted armor please post them. And about the confusion with the imbued armor, I have not tried it, but according to eqtraders.com all that's needed to make imbued armor is to add the appropriate imbued emerald. And if you look at the elven armor, there is enchanted, imbued and koa'dal (enchanted and imbued) I may have misread because I have heard from many people that you cannot make just imbued armor oh well, I'll soon find out, at 190 and gaining daily, when I 200 I'll start the testing. If anyone can clear up these questions please do, I'm quite interested in them myself. The main thing to remember is, this armor is crafted, it takes alot of work, alot of money, alot of time, and even more money. I think when I averaged out the cost I was spending around 1k per skill point, that is incredibly expensive (that's post 175, getting to 175 cost me 500pp). It's better in some ways then planar, looks a hell of alot more fashionable and can be crafted at any level, that's why it's not the best, but it's damn near it. This armor is good, I mean, it's basically tradable planar armor, and I for one am anxiously awaiting those last 10 skill points so I can craft myself a full suit and start selling.
two thing to prevent confusion amongst the surface monkeys: father's name is spelled innoruuk and we prefer sapphires(not fire emeralds). the non-imbued version of this armor we will occasionally export to our exceptional allies(some of whom are bards); the imbued we keep for the faithful (no bards, [yet])
with my modest master-level in smithing i have not yet attempted such superb pieces, but i was under the impression that you could not imbue unenchanted armor. and if you could, why would you?
[i too am on lanys, and also interested in testing the other gods' gems in our cultural armor...specifically bristlebane chain for a fellow rogue]
with my modest master-level in smithing i have not yet attempted such superb pieces, but i was under the impression that you could not imbue unenchanted armor. and if you could, why would you?
[i too am on lanys, and also interested in testing the other gods' gems in our cultural armor...specifically bristlebane chain for a fellow rogue]
Given that Dark Elves can't be Bards, and Half Elf Bards can't follow Innoruuk, could a Half Elf Bard *actually* wear this version of the armour (the Innoruuk imbued)? The item info seems to suggest it, but on the other hand it could be that Verant just gave it the "Plate Class" flag without thinking about it, which would not be the first time they've been caught doing sloppy programming...
Anyway, if I could wear this, It would be absolutely insanely great. Now to find a highly skilled Dark Elf smith on Erollisi Mar... :)
Edited, Thu Apr 11 02:46:14 2002
Anyway, if I could wear this, It would be absolutely insanely great. Now to find a highly skilled Dark Elf smith on Erollisi Mar... :)
Edited, Thu Apr 11 02:46:14 2002
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Um...i have a question. I just tried to make a Innoruuk Bard....but as far as i can tell, bards cant worship Innoruuk. So can they wear the imbued stuff regardless of diety as long as your a bard? Or do you have to be agnostic ....someone explain this to me, im confused.
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My half-elven bard, and half-elven warrior both worship Rallos Zek. No one is 100% certain if enchanted dark-elven armor can be imbued with a gem of rallos zek. I've been trying to hunt down a grand master DE smith and test this out. But still, just the enchanted armor alone is still good.
There's 4 types of cultural armor.
1) Non-enchanted, Non-imbued armor
2) Enchanted, Non-imbued armor
3) Non-enchanted, Imbued armor
4) Enchanted AND imbued armor.
Unfortunatly, not all enchanted armor will be allowed to be imbued by any diety. We know for a fact that DE smiths can enchant and imbue armor from Innorok, but no one is certain if DE enchanted armor will take rallos zek yet. Personaly, I hope so.
There's 4 types of cultural armor.
1) Non-enchanted, Non-imbued armor
2) Enchanted, Non-imbued armor
3) Non-enchanted, Imbued armor
4) Enchanted AND imbued armor.
Unfortunatly, not all enchanted armor will be allowed to be imbued by any diety. We know for a fact that DE smiths can enchant and imbue armor from Innorok, but no one is certain if DE enchanted armor will take rallos zek yet. Personaly, I hope so.
Btw .. i´ve never seen a _LARGE_ DE or HEF. Is this an error or just a joke ... ??
Kronill, Prophet of Darkmoons, Drinal
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The piece of armor takes up a large slot in your inventory(ie: only packs that hold large items can hold this item). My DE cleric's "Bronze Breastplate" is large as well, but that doesn't make it a "Large Bronze Breastplate"(wearable by Ogres, Trolls, and Barbarians). The large merely refers to the size of the inventory slot.
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I was gonna say that you play the dull-witted barbarian far too well because it explains the size rating right in allakhazams detail of the bp, and like lysithea explained, it refers to the size of the container it fits in.
Its a shame, level 52 and you still cant seem to master the square peg round hole puzzle...
Its a shame, level 52 and you still cant seem to master the square peg round hole puzzle...
Oh,
thats new .....
A player, who thinks, that knowing some details about EQ than another one doesnt, gives him the right for those kinda posts ... (or maybe not, cause it wasnt You, who gave the necessary and correct info, if i remember right)
Nice playing on bertxxolous, friend !
- You have become better on thinking about your attitude (2) -
thats new .....
A player, who thinks, that knowing some details about EQ than another one doesnt, gives him the right for those kinda posts ... (or maybe not, cause it wasnt You, who gave the necessary and correct info, if i remember right)
Nice playing on bertxxolous, friend !
- You have become better on thinking about your attitude (2) -
Kronill, Prophet of Darkmoons, Drinal
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Youre right, the comment was uncalled for regardless of the reason that precipitated it.
I offer my humble appology. i momentarally forgot that this is just a game.
I offer my humble appology. i momentarally forgot that this is just a game.
Forgive and forget.
Who doesn´t have problems reminding himself sometimes .....
/salute
Who doesn´t have problems reminding himself sometimes .....
/salute
Kronill, Prophet of Darkmoons, Drinal
Sorry I just have to comment this
... its a real nice item, gratz to everyone being able to smith or get one.
But i am a little sick of DEs. They are obviously the most padded race in this game. They get cool items, cools smithing things and the nearly every graphics on them is the best in game. (think of illusion masks ...etc ..... )
I play a barbarian smithy, but i quitted at least cultural stuff, after ive done some imbued northmans stuff. It looks like banded and the stats on each item is 2 wis 1 str. Ac is 1 worse than fine steel.
I would be willing to force my smithing skill (now somewhat at 180) and gather some strange stuff to get armor, that would be at least comparable to that item without giving cause to quit smithing at once.
p.s.: sorry for bad spelling ... but as i said, i am barbarian :-p ....
... its a real nice item, gratz to everyone being able to smith or get one.
But i am a little sick of DEs. They are obviously the most padded race in this game. They get cool items, cools smithing things and the nearly every graphics on them is the best in game. (think of illusion masks ...etc ..... )
I play a barbarian smithy, but i quitted at least cultural stuff, after ive done some imbued northmans stuff. It looks like banded and the stats on each item is 2 wis 1 str. Ac is 1 worse than fine steel.
I would be willing to force my smithing skill (now somewhat at 180) and gather some strange stuff to get armor, that would be at least comparable to that item without giving cause to quit smithing at once.
p.s.: sorry for bad spelling ... but as i said, i am barbarian :-p ....
Kronill, Prophet of Darkmoons, Drinal
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Walk a mile in my shoes before you say all we get is better than what you get. Try having to walk the long way around antonica for the 100th time, or being killed by every guard you pass, or having to schlep you stuff all over the place cause no merchants will sell to you. Sure, we look the best, but we pay a high price for it.
Besides, this stuff is so expensive to make, no one who can afford to make it will use it, cause they all have better stuff.
Besides, this stuff is so expensive to make, no one who can afford to make it will use it, cause they all have better stuff.
Maybe you are right on this, but its that i stopped smithing at where i was, cause there wont be anything to go for anymore ... not that i thought that those items are something a lvl 25 can do to improve his gear ...
i have a reasonable succuess rate even on Fine Steel BP, why go for more ... ?
i have a reasonable succuess rate even on Fine Steel BP, why go for more ... ?
Kronill, Prophet of Darkmoons, Drinal
I do agree with you that Barbarian Cultural Smithing is lacking in the Plate department...
However, your Ringmail is better AC (though not quite as good, stat-wise) than High Elf & Dark Elf Chain.
However, your Ringmail is better AC (though not quite as good, stat-wise) than High Elf & Dark Elf Chain.
Sick of dark elves? Come to Tallon and cut them into small, bite sized pieces!!
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I will have to agree, We Dark Elves do look Smashing in everything we wear. Naturally Innoruuk made us the most Beautiful Race in all of Norrath. You shorties and Lighties are just jealous because we are prettier than you.
Icekiss FrozenHeart,
Dark Priestess of Innoruuk
Morelle Thule
Icekiss FrozenHeart,
Dark Priestess of Innoruuk
Morelle Thule
Nice idea, but this was actually not the point i wanted to make. Maybe i am wrong on this and maybe this is not the right board for that kind of dicussion. I just see, that concerning smithings, tailoring etc. some races gt real nice stuff and others dont. Barbarians are surely on of that races .. as i never played others than Barbs, Human (i tried others for about till lvl 10 or so) i cant say anything about others tailoring stuff and so on ..
Concerning next gate points, .... Nearest gate point to halas is NK (WK, east end for Wiz) or TOX, means, still a lot of running (shipping), provided u allready payed a dru or wiz. (OK, Barbs dont have any of this classes ... but does that mean they dont have GGpoints near ?)
One siteeffect is that Perma, allthough a nice dungeon with good XP and loots, is uncamped (not speaking of alchemist, or even VOX)
OK, u may say, if DEs are so great, play one .... good, but if everyone does, why dont change the name to EVER DARKELF..... ? Honestly, i dont want to ....
It is surely not easy as DE in good cities and with guards, but there are evil cities as well and i can also remember beaten up by draggoons in overthere too well. The Quest for wurmslayer is much easier, if ur evil ... there are other things in that row ..... as well as somethings are much easier for a good race, i know. I´ve no clue, if those are just bad examples or if good and evil places/guards are balanced, BUT ..
As I see it, and that opinion i stand to discussion here, but it seems to me, verant is more or less interested in the "details" of the one races or the others and i see DEs and Barbs on opposite sites of that.
If someone wants to share a second view (maybe a DEplayer) of that with me, i´d b happy to discuss it ...
thats it so far ...
btw, if u dont want to contribute something to the discussion, ignore this message ...
Concerning next gate points, .... Nearest gate point to halas is NK (WK, east end for Wiz) or TOX, means, still a lot of running (shipping), provided u allready payed a dru or wiz. (OK, Barbs dont have any of this classes ... but does that mean they dont have GGpoints near ?)
One siteeffect is that Perma, allthough a nice dungeon with good XP and loots, is uncamped (not speaking of alchemist, or even VOX)
OK, u may say, if DEs are so great, play one .... good, but if everyone does, why dont change the name to EVER DARKELF..... ? Honestly, i dont want to ....
It is surely not easy as DE in good cities and with guards, but there are evil cities as well and i can also remember beaten up by draggoons in overthere too well. The Quest for wurmslayer is much easier, if ur evil ... there are other things in that row ..... as well as somethings are much easier for a good race, i know. I´ve no clue, if those are just bad examples or if good and evil places/guards are balanced, BUT ..
As I see it, and that opinion i stand to discussion here, but it seems to me, verant is more or less interested in the "details" of the one races or the others and i see DEs and Barbs on opposite sites of that.
If someone wants to share a second view (maybe a DEplayer) of that with me, i´d b happy to discuss it ...
thats it so far ...
btw, if u dont want to contribute something to the discussion, ignore this message ...
Kronill, Prophet of Darkmoons, Drinal
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Did you ever consider that while Barbs have a full and rich culture, they didnt really have much ambition to be the best at smithing, or hide wearing? In Fantasy DEs, Good Elves, Dwaves, and Gnomes often have a driving (racially) goal to be really good at some type of craftsman skill?
As far as smithing goes, Good elves gun for Mithril and strive to go over and above all others with that metal alone. Gnomes -- inventions. DE's -- Adamant. Dwarves -- Stonemasonry as well as general metalworking, unlike elves (usually) they are after all metalworking not just armor and weapons.
Dauthr Lif
Necromancer 29
Teir`Dal The Master Race!
As far as smithing goes, Good elves gun for Mithril and strive to go over and above all others with that metal alone. Gnomes -- inventions. DE's -- Adamant. Dwarves -- Stonemasonry as well as general metalworking, unlike elves (usually) they are after all metalworking not just armor and weapons.
Dauthr Lif
Necromancer 29
Teir`Dal The Master Race!
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I have never played a barbarian but I am a 28th level DE rogue. I think that's if DEs are a bit unbalanced in terms of power, it is only fair for all the crap we go through, along with the other evil races. There are 3 evil cities, all on one continent, and how many 'good' cities? Also makes quests hard to do all over the place because of faction, and getting into places is a pain in the butt because you have to spend 3 days killing goblins, orcs, gnolls, etc before you can get past the guards. If the light races are a little bit less powerful, it's the price you pay for having such a relatively easy life compared to the dark races.
Melantho,
Dark Elf Rogue of Innoruuk
28th season backstabber, and corpse extractor
Melantho,
Dark Elf Rogue of Innoruuk
28th season backstabber, and corpse extractor
Anyone have an idea how much a full set of this armor would be to buy? I plan on starting an SK soon, and would look to get a set of this if I can afford it.
On Terris-Thule all of this stuff sells just under the price of Singing Steel armor (if you can actually find any for sale that is). Hope this helps :)
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As a smith I can tell you the at cost price for these items it going to be expensive. The ore for the BP alone will run about 500pp, while the rest of the items themselves required are cheap in comparison you will need a master brewer and some paitence for the tempers. Toss in the gems and the need for a 49+ enchanter and a +24 cleric (with his imbue spells) I persoanlly wouldn't sell this piece to a friend for anything less than 2k. Its a hassel in of itself as for a full suit, that includeds non-visual pieces, 15k would be my mark and thats at minimum. I have only made a few of the pieces for myself and have no intention of trying to make profit from this. Most are not willing to pay the price for these items much less pay a decent market price. I'll be finishing my suit up sometime and once I replace all the pieces I might try and sell it off, otherwise it will be stuffed in the bank to collect dust.
My 2 cp
Niladen, Master Smith of 187
My 2 cp
Niladen, Master Smith of 187
Its really not worth the bother to see this stuff. Most people with smithing buddies would get it made for the materials probably since the smith can have a chance to raise skill.
Its really not worth making any to sell to players. You'd take a bath at 15 k since you'd be spending way more than 15 k in time and money combined. Jeez just trying to get the materials for the tempers are irritating enough.
One thing though, either this or the non imbued version which is still enchanted (if there is one.. I forget ) is better than the Sk PLANE armor even (from fear) at least pound for pound and as far as ac and stats. The only things its missing is the reses of the sk plane stuff which is not that great.
I was going to have my dark elf cleric make herself some with my 55 druid wood elf as the supplier but then I started AO and finally quit EQ.
This is an incredible example of smithing, especially in the Armor Class department. I don't know for sure, but I can't really recall many examples in Fantasy lore of Dark Elves being especially skilled at blacksmithing... It was always the Dwarves who were pounding away at the forges. The Dark Elf smiths used their magical prowess to enchant the armors they did make, evident in the incredible stat bonuses here, but I never saw them as being able to make very strong armors in terms of AC... Maybe close rivals with the Adamentite, but... The dwarves probably do have a higher AC BP and I have yet to see it; or so I hope:-P I dunno. Just miss some of the old elements in Fantasy RP. Maybe I'm wrong about DE history. Anyway, nice BP regardless:) Be safe, y'all. Laterz!
PS. More RP stuff... Didn't Dark Elves used to actually get physically ill when they were exposed to direct sunlight? Maybe in EQ they could be not weaker in light, but maybe stronger in darkness; ie. dungeons, caves, etc... Just an idea:)
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Thanks, Malchore for that info!:) Very helpful.
And about the Barbarian plate smithing skill, or lack thereof, forgive me for calling upon more fantasy literature/lore, but Barbarians were supposed to be largely nomadic, weren't they? They wore mostly skins, and had to walk for miles and miles across baron lands and tundra. If they would settle, it was never for long periods of time, so they wouldn't have had any kind of stable forge in which to make plate armors, and had they been able to, they probably wouldn't have opted to wear/carry the armor anyway because of the weight. Would make their lifetyle a bit more difficult. But, I don't know. Maybe JeremyS is right, and it's called Fantasy because we don't need to go "by the book". But when the GM's/Guides/etc specifically encourage Roleplaying, after whom are we supposed to model our RP if we don't refer to these sources? (Books, D&D, etc)
PS. More RP stuff... Didn't Dark Elves used to actually get physically ill when they were exposed to direct sunlight? Maybe in EQ they could be not weaker in light, but maybe stronger in darkness; ie. dungeons, caves, etc... Just an idea:)
---Edit---
Thanks, Malchore for that info!:) Very helpful.
And about the Barbarian plate smithing skill, or lack thereof, forgive me for calling upon more fantasy literature/lore, but Barbarians were supposed to be largely nomadic, weren't they? They wore mostly skins, and had to walk for miles and miles across baron lands and tundra. If they would settle, it was never for long periods of time, so they wouldn't have had any kind of stable forge in which to make plate armors, and had they been able to, they probably wouldn't have opted to wear/carry the armor anyway because of the weight. Would make their lifetyle a bit more difficult. But, I don't know. Maybe JeremyS is right, and it's called Fantasy because we don't need to go "by the book". But when the GM's/Guides/etc specifically encourage Roleplaying, after whom are we supposed to model our RP if we don't refer to these sources? (Books, D&D, etc)
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Well, if we are using generic fantasy examples...
In D&D, dark elven weapons and chain mail are some of the best items in the world, with huge pluses. Probably because they're made out of Adamantite, arguably the strongest metal in the world. That combined with the heavy enchantments placed upon it it make it amazing.
In D&D, dark elven weapons and chain mail are some of the best items in the world, with huge pluses. Probably because they're made out of Adamantite, arguably the strongest metal in the world. That combined with the heavy enchantments placed upon it it make it amazing.
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I think you're right about the superiority of Dwarven smithing. We'll all remember Aegis Fang, among others! I think it's just another example of EQ's lack of observation to the origins of its genre. Kinda sucks, but we see it over and over again. Oh, well.
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Just cos they are better smiths doesnt mean they make the best armour. Best crafted maybe, but if you have a softer metal your armour wont be as good. The metal quality is most important in armour.
Dwarves may be skillful and make nice looking armour, but a harder peice of metal will be better to protect you even if it isnt so well made (so long as its good enough).
Any way, as they say its their world, they can do what they like with it.
Dwarves may be skillful and make nice looking armour, but a harder peice of metal will be better to protect you even if it isnt so well made (so long as its good enough).
Any way, as they say its their world, they can do what they like with it.
Anonymous
Dwarves are the undisputed masters of smithing. All their work is high quality compared to work of other races. This does not mean that their work cannot be surpassed. Elven smiths have a few secrets that rival the dwarves but only in a very small area. Dark Elves may be able to make some armor rivling that made by dwarves but can not create the other types of work with the same mastery as dwarves.
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I agree. Dwarves were always the best smiths. Although, DnD does have that business with the magical adamantite...but then what's the deal with the High Elven armours being just as powerful as the Dark Elven?
And I have seen the stats on the Dwarven armour, it's not nearly as good, even ac wise if I remember right. Oy.
They really should fix that...make it more race appropriate...even better, if they could put a racial bonus on tradeskills. Dwarves the best smiths, Elves the best jewellers, halflings the best...I dunno, bakers? Sounds good. But that would be good.
IS a kickass breastplate though, the chain's good too...and caster wearable...hurrah for necros everywhere!
Xaenoth Darkwind
Necromancer of Innoruuk
And I have seen the stats on the Dwarven armour, it's not nearly as good, even ac wise if I remember right. Oy.
They really should fix that...make it more race appropriate...even better, if they could put a racial bonus on tradeskills. Dwarves the best smiths, Elves the best jewellers, halflings the best...I dunno, bakers? Sounds good. But that would be good.
IS a kickass breastplate though, the chain's good too...and caster wearable...hurrah for necros everywhere!
Xaenoth Darkwind
Necromancer of Innoruuk
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Last I checked, EQ wasn't DnD. They don't have to do everything "by the book"... that's why it's called Fantasy. China was know worldwide as the first to use gunpowder, but who ended up perfecting it and surpassing China in gun manufacturing and explosive productions? England. So maybe since the Dwarves were first to get smithing up to a high quality, Dark Elves just improved on it. =)
Hmm, this looks like a good item for all the classes listed actually..
Made by dark elven smiths. Skill required around 220+ i would not attempt until 250 however. Ingredients somewhat rare.
Made by dark elven smiths. Skill required around 220+ i would not attempt until 250 however. Ingredients somewhat rare.
Scholar
31 posts
Actually, with my enchanter I have (succesfully) made two of these, with 180 smithing. It's nowhere near trivial, and I still get a failure rate of 1 in 3 or so, with the usual runs of bad or good luck thrown in to skew things. Ingredients aren't really rare, just expensive. :)
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sorry there Llyric but I must agree either your full of it or ya missed type something. I am a DE smith on Drinal with a skill of 186 and while with diffculty I can smith enchanted chain.. I have failed 19 attempts at a enchanted plate bracer (which should be the easiest).. the imbuded would be even harder, and before anyone says it my wisdom is 200 plus enchanter buffed so there is noway I see ya smithing this much less the reported fail/success rate
Llyric, personally, I think you're full of it. Sorry to be blunt, but a failure rate of 1 in 3 on an item that goes trivial at 245 + when your skill is only 180 is hard to believe. Heck, a success rate of 1 in 3 is hard to believe. OH, and as for ingredients being not "really rare, just expensive", well that statement makes me believe you haven't actually made any Tier'Dal cultural armor. To even make one attempt at any Tier'Dal plate requires shadow temper, and making shadow temper requires one vial of elf blood and two essences of shadow. The elf blood is relatively easy to come by, but the essence of shadow is a VERY rare drop off shadow men. From my experience, on average camp of two hours or so, the shadowmen will drop one or maybe two essences of shadow. And considering that you need two essences of shadow for each shadow temper, well to say the ingredients aren't really rare shows that either your sense of perspective is skewed way out of reality or else you are completely full of it.
Mortiis X'Ian
(Legitimate) Master Tier'Dal Blacksmith (188)
Mortiis X'Ian
(Legitimate) Master Tier'Dal Blacksmith (188)
44 posts
actually, i've read other posts on a few diffrent sites that have accounts from people that they were able to make the breastplate at skill 175-180 with a 1 in 2 chance of success, however all attemts on the bracers have failed .. it might be a bug or it might just be verents ability to make sense. maybe i'll give it a shot and try early, i'll post my results if i do.
Nineva delamortei
53 Darkelf SK
Nineva delamortei
53 Darkelf SK
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jul 17 2001 at 5:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is NICE, better than all the class specific and screams CLERIC, or BARD
Anonymous
lol, are there many bards that follow innoruuk?
Actually, bards can't worship Innoruuk, Cazic, or Bertox. I think Rallos or Veeshan is as evil as bards get.
20 posts
Oh, yeah, for sure! You've heard all those evil bard songs!
"And war, and death, and murder, and horror
Hack, maim, death, and doom,
Change partners!"
"And war, and death, and murder, and horror
Hack, maim, death, and doom,
Change partners!"
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