Norge`tal
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Shadows of Luclin
Still drops. Saw one looted just today.
can anyone who has this already tell me, what is the max level of a mob you can stun with this weapon? it's my understanding (of course, all of that comes from casted spells, not procs) that each stun has a max level it can land on and actually stun the mob. if this does not, then it becomes entirely more useful to me.
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Baacon 75 CLR
Deltdeath 75 SK
Eggz 75 MNK
Faedarr 75 ENC
(yeah, i have a lot of time on my hands... gimme a break)
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Baacon 75 CLR
Deltdeath 75 SK
Eggz 75 MNK
Faedarr 75 ENC
(yeah, i have a lot of time on my hands... gimme a break)
3 posts
I have a Norge'Tal and like it - max crit as a lvl 62 SK is (602) I must admit the proc knockback effect is a pain in the *** however.
Other then that it's an all around decent weapon and the delay is perfect for casting between swings and jousting.
Other then that it's an all around decent weapon and the delay is perfect for casting between swings and jousting.
4 posts
Stuff like this is not intended to "provide players without the ability to get their epics" with an alternative. This kind of loot is built into the game for the players who got thier epic 2 years ago, and still want to have something to look forward to.
Any guild thats capable of killing high priest / arch litch / creator, could do a sk epic in a day, start to finish if the right mobs were up.
Yeah Im cranky, whatchaguna do? Cry?
Kraahl
Gravelord
<Talons>
Cazic-Thule
Edited, Fri Aug 23 11:16:16 2002
Any guild thats capable of killing high priest / arch litch / creator, could do a sk epic in a day, start to finish if the right mobs were up.
Yeah Im cranky, whatchaguna do? Cry?
Kraahl
Gravelord
<Talons>
Cazic-Thule
Edited, Fri Aug 23 11:16:16 2002
Now thats the point that I've been trying to make to people who don't want to get thier epics because they'er so many better weapons out there than epics. As I've stated before in one of my posts, I belive it was on the FD paly epic post. Because there were so many paladins posting about getting some kind of axe called the paladius axe of slaughter instead of thier epic. Unless if you are a twink, then you probably wouldn't want to get your epic and you could just buy a great weapon that's better than your epics. But let's say you want to get a weapon like this instead of your epic. Your gonna have a long wait even if you are in a uber guild. This weapon will most likely be awarded to guildies who have thier epics and want better. The fact that the matter is, weapons that are better than epics drop off tough mobs that take whole raids to kill. The longer you wait for these better weapons, could be the time you take into getting your epic.
That's just my 2 copper.
And no, I don't have my epic yet, but I'm still trying to get them. Only have a few battles left to :)
Edited, Fri Aug 22 00:50:32 2003
That's just my 2 copper.
And no, I don't have my epic yet, but I'm still trying to get them. Only have a few battles left to :)
Edited, Fri Aug 22 00:50:32 2003
#REDACTED,
Posted: May 06 2004 at 8:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK my chanter has my epic...When my Paladin was lvl 1 he had a better weapon then what his epic amounts too. Now hes using a 50/40 2hslasher. I will never get my Paladin epic.
45 posts
i don't really see the point to twinking someone so hardcore. If he already has armor that is better than most luclin armor, then you're missing out on most of the game and have nothing to look forward to.
And in the long run you will just get bored and probably not use the toon as much. If you aren't in one of the uber guilds that do huge raids every night and is progressing through GoD and defeated Quarm, then equiptment is one of the main things to look forward to, why take away the pleasure you get when getting a well earned piece of gear.
And in the long run you will just get bored and probably not use the toon as much. If you aren't in one of the uber guilds that do huge raids every night and is progressing through GoD and defeated Quarm, then equiptment is one of the main things to look forward to, why take away the pleasure you get when getting a well earned piece of gear.
Ok I totally agree with what ur saying, but the paladin epic really isnt that great...there are a lot better weapons then the pally epic that reguire same amount of effort, the stats on the pally epic are nice and so is the proc but 35-40? now ill probably get flamed or whatever its called but i could care less
#REDACTED,
Posted: Nov 07 2002 at 5:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ever try doing the SK epic? Guilds tend to like wasting more time helping out the whole guild instead of a single identity. Although to kill the High Priest I know that the idea of me being there, living, and winning a roll on the weapon are slim to none, but it IS something to look forward to. As of right now, we can just buy some decent blades from PoP that stack up in the ratio department. And on PvP servers, that's exactly the most important tool you will need to stay alive. Hoping for this won't mean that someday you'll have it, but if you try hard enough, anything is possible.
3 posts
update to this weapon
War Pal SK Ranger now
War Pal SK Ranger now
2 posts
Got this a few days ago on Tribunal, awesome damage. Lack of a.c. kinda suxors, but the 6 sec stun proc makes up for it on solo mobs. Hightest non-crit is 422 so far.
9 posts
Heh ya saw you crit with it for 789 the other night :) I had to change my armor pants :)
Demitrix
Demitrix
wowsa....now this is a weapon...ill probably never see it in game ...but i can always dream
Ironking 59th paladin
the rathe
ps wow what a huge upgrade from my argent protector hehe lmao
Ironking 59th paladin
the rathe
ps wow what a huge upgrade from my argent protector hehe lmao
49 posts
Cool name on that sword.. im from Norway (Norge in norwegian) :P
12 posts
Norge hersker, ikkje rart at de lagde et så bra våpen av oss =P
9 posts
Bork Bork Bork
#REDACTED,
Posted: Apr 27 2002 at 2:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You ever notice that epics are far less epic nowadays? Why even bother with the Sk or Pally epic when you can go out and get this bad boy...its far better than both of them...
In my opinion its because getting your epic is something you have to really work for..a sence of accomplishment..But also my epic has a clickable rez so you cant replace that..Dont get any ideas Verant hehe :)
Yes, you see these new items appear, much better than epics. But did you ever stop to think what stuff they drop off? If your guild isn't able to complete the epics, than it's definately not able to take those mobs. Hell, they probably need epics or better in the first place to even try these mobs. Just because some items are dropped doesn't mean they're easier then a quest. For all we know there may be only 4 guilds on all servers together that can take those mobs. And that weapon maybe an ultra rare drop off an ultra rare spawn. In order to take this mob down, the guild would have to be pretty damn big. Imagine your chance of getting it when there are 40 more wanting.
Edited, Sat Apr 27 07:29:07 2002
Edited, Sat Apr 27 07:29:07 2002
4 posts
I think VI has taken a good idea and made a bad thing out of it.
It seems to me like they are trying to provide players without the ability to get their epics something to lessen their disadvantage (not everyone is in a guild with the ability to help get their epics). However, the items released to balance the power of players is just a bit too powerful. Before AAXP was introduced, you could argue that the epic was still better than this because you could bash with it. Now, the only advantage the epic has are the stats (and maybe bragging rights for your guild), although the stats on this thing are already amazing for a non-epic weapon...
It seems to me like they are trying to provide players without the ability to get their epics something to lessen their disadvantage (not everyone is in a guild with the ability to help get their epics). However, the items released to balance the power of players is just a bit too powerful. Before AAXP was introduced, you could argue that the epic was still better than this because you could bash with it. Now, the only advantage the epic has are the stats (and maybe bragging rights for your guild), although the stats on this thing are already amazing for a non-epic weapon...
ok i am a good distance from being able to get my epic but i hope to have it within 4-6 months but i htink that the SK epic does have an advantage over this the 600point lifetap proc is very nice and the stats on the epic are a lot better than the stats on this and i know that stats and resistances go a long way especially when fighting mobs at the lvl u need to be to even have a prayer of getting within 2 zones of the mob that drops this. the ratio on this is insane but i dont think u will just go pick this up anytime soon maybe if u are lucky and u are the first out of the 36+ ppl it takes to camp stuff like this someone does have to be the first after all but if your luck is anything like mine u will be second in line and then everyone will decide to go camp something else right after the first one finally drops and u get screwed. dont want to flame anyone here just my opinion.
Vellyan 30th Shadow Knight
Tullil 20th Druid
Vellyan 30th Shadow Knight
Tullil 20th Druid
18 posts
Verant openly stated that Epics were never meant to be the Ultimate Weapon... there were always going to be items that were better off harder mobs. The quests were the part that were epic. And while five wizards can run around and kill any mob needed for an epic, the mobs that drop these require large primal/ToV equipped guilds. And you're lucky if the mobs even drop two items each time you kill them.
Read Rorroh's post above...if your guild can't band together to get your epic, there is no way in hell they can band together to take out even the yard trash in the high end zones like Ssraeshza Temple, ToV, etc...so no, the epic is far from devalued, it is just not as valuable to those members of those guilds who probably call mobs like Trak or VS "simple". And those folks are pretty rare. Nuff said.
40 posts
a 60 paladin with a primal velium claidmore will hit for 350 max... with this... prolly 430 or so... thats some serious dmg
#REDACTED,
Posted: Apr 26 2002 at 6:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The Stun proc is worthless. 99.999% of the mobs you'll fight after getting a weapon like this are immune to Stun... but it still causes a ton of aggro.
But still can interrupt spell casting mobs, if ye get lucky for it to proc. But I also wonder, can the AA skill of Divine stun work with proc's too? If so, then this is really nice sword!
39 posts
No, you cannot interrupt ANY monster that is lvl57+ no matter if you can land stuns on them or not. The only way to break casting on 57+ mobs is with melee/nuke push or casting a high level mezz spell (if they are within the 57-60 range).
8 posts
My 61 warrior on Luclin has this blade and true most high end mobs are immune to stun. The BIG thing about this that nobody seems to mention is Throwback! Yes the stun may not work, but you MOVE the mob and the 90 DD is nice to. Just be sure ya keep on top of the mob, hate to have it proc and then get the out of range message.
The effect on the Tranquil Staff (Fist of One Hundred Blows I believe it is called) is also able to stun 55+ creatures just fine. I've seen our guildleader whip out his TStaff and stun the ancient guardian wurms in Halls of Testing in ToV to preven the things from gating.
dont forget pushing. all melee on one side moving a mob in the same direction will prevent gating (a very important tactic on some of the more annoying caster mobs)
10 posts
High Priest of Ssraeshza, 5 points if you can guess the zone~
41 posts
Gotta be one of the Karanas
nah nah nah, West Freeport
-Guillemot
-Guillemot
Umm... Befallen?
10 posts
It's gotta be Crushbone *crosses fingers*
3 posts
Umm, Maiden?
Ooooh Daddy!
Pallys and SKs keep getting more and more exceptional weapons. The only question about this one is what drops it?!?
Meirril, Fennin Ro
Pallys and SKs keep getting more and more exceptional weapons. The only question about this one is what drops it?!?
Meirril, Fennin Ro
43 posts
lol a person with a 53/45 weapon would own with it having +38d damage bonus at 51+ lol they would be hitting for like ... i dunno but it would be pretty cool ... :P
Be sure to note that DMG bonus is dependent on weapon delay, and the level of the user. It's the bonus added to every hit you do, so if you hit for 1 dmg, you get (if you are the same level as the person that took the screenshot) 38 dmg bonus, and would thus hit for 39 dmg. It Does NOT Make It A 91 dmg weapon.
47 posts
Actually, IF you hit you get the roll on the damage of the weapon, and then a ROLL on the damage bonus. Which is why people often hit for less than the damage bonus.
Um...no.
You never hit for less than the damage bonus + 1. It can appear that you hit for less than the damage bonus + 1, but only when you are finishing off a rune.
The damage done on a swing is some random multiple of the weapon damage, so X * 53. This amount will be at least 1. Then the damage bonus is added on after that.
The damage bonus is dependent on level. It is impossible for a level 60 paladin or shadowknight to hit for less than 12 (the one hand damage bonus + 1). 38 looks like the level 60 bonus for a 2 hander with a delay of 43. Maybe 58 or 59 but not lower.
You never hit for less than the damage bonus + 1. It can appear that you hit for less than the damage bonus + 1, but only when you are finishing off a rune.
The damage done on a swing is some random multiple of the weapon damage, so X * 53. This amount will be at least 1. Then the damage bonus is added on after that.
The damage bonus is dependent on level. It is impossible for a level 60 paladin or shadowknight to hit for less than 12 (the one hand damage bonus + 1). 38 looks like the level 60 bonus for a 2 hander with a delay of 43. Maybe 58 or 59 but not lower.
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