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#1 May 05 2006 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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When I initially made my BST Bible sticky for the BST forum here, it was when allakhazam was not under current ownership. As I do not support the ownership, I removed my guide.

I want to report copy/pasting of my guide back into the forum in 2 seperate threads.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=8;mid=1146859962106752659;num=3;page=1

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=8;mid=1146789180169748996;num=15;page=1

edit added this as well, which is another copy/paste of my guide

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=8;mid=1146915737124521653;num=1;page=1

edit again, now they are making socks and copy/pasting it

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=8;mid=114672036831686341;num=6;page=1

I removed my data due no longer wanting to be associated with this site. I want my guide that is unauthorized, nor will ever be unauthorized to be removed from the BST forums, and those who continue to plagerize me to be told not to continue copying my data.

If they want a BST Bible, have them work their *** of for the better part of a 3 day weekend for it. Otherwise, they are stealing everything I did and are against every I, and all BSTs stand for.

Edited, Sat May 6 09:19:10 2006 by RunningDemon

Edited, Sat May 6 09:28:13 2006 by RunningDemon
#2 May 05 2006 at 8:47 PM Rating: Decent
Why the **** do you care?

Your guide is not supporting allakhazam, it's supporting BSTs.

You're going to give your fellow brethren the finger just because you disagree with a buisness venture of the owners of the site?
#3 May 05 2006 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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We've been over this in another thread, the quote is not plagiarized, I am not taking credit for it, it is being presented as cited information. I have stated time and time again that it is up there only to provide a template for people to start making a new sticky. I even gave a time frame in which I was going to take it down and either begin working on my own sticky or view the whole affair as the alla bst community's self-inflicted destruction and move on. The only reason I have not already taken it down is that the time I have to spend on the internet atm is limited to short breaks- such as this-which are only conductive for short posts not writting new stickys. In the meantime, it is serving a role as a cited template for creation of a new sticky.

If it would stop your whining I’ll provide a link to FFonline until I take it down.




Edited, Fri May 5 22:12:11 2006 by StoneSkin
#4 May 05 2006 at 9:09 PM Rating: Default
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You are posting without my consent. Take it down now.

If they want to go to ffxionline, they can click the link in my sig, I left a way for them to get at it.
#5 May 05 2006 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't see a link in your sig.

And as I wrote to the whiny ***** who "compiled" the WHM AF sticky:

Good job! You managed to punish the PLAYERS for the faults of the OWNER of the site. you are truly a renegade.
#6 May 05 2006 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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Only the players who refuse to use Wiki/FFXIO are being hurt.



Everyone who moves (Read: Discourages IGE) has access all the same.
#7 May 05 2006 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
Um. Can someone identify any document on Allakhazam that indicates a poster gives up any and all copyright status to information they post on the forums?

Unless such an article exists, RunningDemon technically owns the copyright to his post. The information could surely be rewritten in a different format and be totally legit, but defiantly copying his post and refusing to get rid of it is a violation of his copyright on said works. Its sad that anyone would stoop so low as to violate someone's copyright in the name of their own progress.
#8 May 06 2006 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Mar 13th 2011 6:46pm by AyriaBismarck
#9 May 06 2006 at 1:39 AM Rating: Default
This site makes a profit there for it nulls the above post.
#10 May 06 2006 at 1:42 AM Rating: Default
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html

Edited, Sat May 6 02:46:20 2006 by Katie
#11 May 06 2006 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Mar 13th 2011 6:45pm by AyriaBismarck
#12 May 06 2006 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
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stop complaining and just let your guide be shared.


This whole "stop visiting alla for it gives goldsellers money" thing is getting really old.


And don't tell me that that isnt what this is about, it's definitly a related issue.
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#13 May 06 2006 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Delete people copy and pasting my hard work please. Tell them to wirte their own damn guide if they want one.
#14 May 06 2006 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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i dont think it counts as plagerism unless they try to take credit for it, it might be one of tose things where once you say it, its out there, like if i were to tell people about an invention idea, then someone took it before a could patent it.

but im no law expert either
#15 May 06 2006 at 10:37 AM Rating: Default
RunningDemon, you're a jackass, along with everyone else who's pulling their helpful information over this.
#16 May 06 2006 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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Norellicus wrote:
RunningDemon, you're a jackass, along with everyone else who's pulling their helpful information over this.
If they have "Helpful information"; they can make their own guide with it.


His work does not deserve to be treated like this.
#17 May 06 2006 at 10:44 AM Rating: Default
TREATED LIKE WHAT?

There is no abuse of information going on here!

People are trying to keep some good, HELPFUL details available to the rest of the community who doesn't fucking care about the ******** that you guys are up in arms over.

Like I said in my first post, anyone who is taking their stuff down is giving the finger to every single member of their community that was ever helped or assisted by the information in those posts. Your actions are doing jack **** to 'punish' Allakhazam for his mistakes, and are instead completely ******** over your fellow players.


Tell me, how does it feel to act like a gilseller?

Edited, Sat May 6 11:45:41 2006 by Norellicus
#18 May 06 2006 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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AyriaBismarck wrote:
Alla is not selling the guide. They are not attempting to profit from the guide.


Read what you said one more time and then think real hard.

Why do you think there are ads for those who don't pay to become a premium member?

Because Allakhazam makes money off of those ads everytime someone visits the site.

So basically Allakhazam is profitting from the guides/posts as long as there are ads on the site.
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#19 May 06 2006 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
Then you need to go through and edit EVERY SINGLE ONE of your 7829 posts blank, since alla is making money off each.
#20 May 06 2006 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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Then you need to go through and edit EVERY SINGLE ONE of your 7829 posts blank, since alla is making money off each.


Well, technically even then they'd still make money, because even a blank post is still a post you can visit O:-)

I see the entire issue as silly, honestly. But I don't think Alla is going to be forced to do anything. And hell, even if he took down the reposted guide, I don't think the OP would suddenly turn around and say "Ah, he's not such a bad guy."

As Alla doesn't have a legal obligation to do it...
As there are not any intentional gold-selling ads on the site now...
Although it would be (as my philosophy professor would say) an "awfully nice thing to do" to take down the reposted guide...

Well, I see no real reason (as in, pressing and legal reason) for the guide to be removed. Personally, if RD wants it down, I think it's asshattery to keep up a repost of his work. But as it was selfish, in my opinion, to take it down in the first place...

Meh, it's a FFXI problem, not mine. Hope it works out for all parties involved.
#21 May 06 2006 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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Norellicus wrote:
TREATED LIKE WHAT?

There is no abuse of information going on here!

People are trying to keep some good, HELPFUL details available to the rest of the community who doesn't fucking care about the ******** that you guys are up in arms over.

Like I said in my first post, anyone who is taking their stuff down is giving the finger to every single member of their community that was ever helped or assisted by the information in those posts. Your actions are doing jack **** to 'punish' Allakhazam for his mistakes, and are instead completely ******** over your fellow players.


Tell me, how does it feel to act like a gilseller?

Edited, Sat May 6 11:45:41 2006 by Norellicus
Are you braindead? Taking people away from Allakhazam reduces the amount of money Alla makes.


YOU are the ones ******** over your fellow players, by supporting the people behind IGE in their quest to make RMT the norm.
#22 May 06 2006 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Can someone identify any document on Allakhazam that indicates a poster gives up any and all copyright status to information they post on the forums?
There's a disclaimer on the bottom of the everquest.allakhazam site which states in part:

While we try our best to keep the information here as accurate and up to date as possible, rely upon it at your own risk. By submitting information and graphics to this site, you are granting us permission to use the materials in any way that we deem appropriate.

I'm not a lawyer so I won't make a definate claim is that statement can apply to the entire allakhazam.com domain. I would think so, but my armchair opinion is worth about as much as yours.
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defiantly copying his post and refusing to get rid of it is a violation of his copyright on said works.
So have him go get a lawyer, convince him to take the case, subpoena Allakhazam for the contact information for the accounts violating his copyright, track those people down and take them to court where he convinces a judge that he should be awarded damages because they copied his guides on this site. That's the correct response to a copyright violation that you feel is important enough to enforce your rights under the law.
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#23 May 06 2006 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
NEWS FLASH!

RMT IS ALREADY THE NORM!

Your 'crusade' is not going to make IGE any more or less effective at fucking people over than it already is.

My gilseller comment was over the fact that the actions of those who are removing their helpful details is no better than the person you see in Castle Oztroja camping Mee Deggi 24x7. They are doing what they are doing for their own benefit ONLY, at the cost of everyone else.
#24 May 06 2006 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Chances are your guide has already been sold on ebay and posted on those exploit sites.
#25 May 06 2006 at 2:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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This brings into conflict the entire system of that little 'quote' button.

#26 May 07 2006 at 9:04 PM Rating: Default
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Plz remove all my data.
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