Pets and WeaponsFollow

I am curious about pets and weapons. What advantage does your
pet get from give it a weapon?

I am now playing a lvl 34 Necro. I have watched the dmg with and without a weapon, and I don't seem to notice any difference in dmg.

Is there a difference between how Necro pets use weapons vs. Mage pets or any other classes?

Please enlighten me.

enjoy.

hmmm... I totally agree they do look very cool with the weapons (and shield).

proc'ing weapons to a pet... good idea. Now i have to find some cheap proc'ing weapons.

As far as the damage that your pet does with weapons, it will take the higher max damage of either it's natural attacks, or the weapon damage x2. So if you give your pet a 6dmg weapon it will either have a max hit of 12 or it's natural max hit, depending on which is higher.

Weapons are mainly useful for processes and stat bonuses as it's hard to find a weapon worth giving to a pet that would up it's max damage.

For *very* low levels, giving a pet a weapon with base damage higher than the pet will increase damage...but that's like levels 1/4/8(maybe) pets...after that it's just for looks or proc.

My buddy said when he put the mage weapons on his bst, it seemed like his pet proced its spell less. Anyone heard of this, and is there any reason for it?

Lierta wrote:

yes, or, alternatively, try the bazaar. do a search for "summoned".

I usually get a
Summoned: Girdle of Magi`kot plus 500 HP
Summoned: Hand of Ixiblat DD proc
Summoned: Muzzle of Mardu 11% haste

all together for 15-20 PP on FV - well worth the money.

here a link which you might find useful too.

Edit: as for the question, if there are differences betwen Necro and Mage pets weapon wise, I don't know. if, then I would like to know too. :)



Edited, Wed Aug 18 05:58:18 2004 by Kajolus

Mage toys are a great help for the pet classes. I have a 65 mage on brell and regularly summon the fists, girdle, and mask for my beastlord who is only 32. Be aware that while the fists will proc for a sub 60 pet the post 60 summoned blades will only proc for a post 60 pet. Also know that the proc will not be the full 150hp proc for a lower level pet. Higher level pets get a higher proc from these weapons.

YALP, (Yet Another Log Parser), factors in weapon procs and will also break out the data so you know how much trauma your pet is causing.

I've been using it for a few months now and quite like it.

So what's the verdict for beastlord pets? More DPS with the weapons or without?

What's the deal with the prices on Morden Rasp? Isn't this a server for newbies? If so, why the hell are things like a Green Silken Drape, which has become virtually vendor trash on other servers, selling for around 800pp on MR?

Okay, I don't really remember the exact price, but I remember that it was hundreds.

I'd say if you handed a warder 2 swords it would drop their DPS since their modelled after a beastlord. Hence their hand to hand attack rating would be highest.

Shaman should always hand their pet two weapons otherwise their companions forget to dual weild. Since shaman pets are based off a warrior model their slashing, piercing, and blunt skill is much higher than hand to hand so handing even one weapon should slightly increase DPS. However you might have to parse for 18 hours to even notice a 2% increase.

Targor
65 shaman

The way I have been told it in the past - which seems supported by experience - is that the pet will get the damage of the weapon but still use it's own attack delay.

I was wandering Shadeweaver thicket recently with a low level Necro. Without weapon max damage was 14. Giving the pet a Crude Boned Halibut (10/56) gave me max damage 20 and didn't make any difference to frequency of attack.

There obviously comes a point where it is pretty hard to find a disposable weapon that outdoes the pet's innate attack.

On Targor's comment:


I have had my pet handed two weapons and seen a decrease in damage so severe that I had to recast the pet. This by the way is a major point of etiquette. Always give weapons to the master not the pet.


As for Morden Rasp and the
question.

The server opened with a few high level guilds and otherwise complete newbies. Many areas that are farmed extensively on normal servers are not touched.

For example Chitinous Belt is a byproduct of VT key questing and on most servers is pretty cheap. On MR it is 1-2k. The top guilds are either already keyed or not interested and the newbies haven't even begun to think about such things.

There is also a degreee of price inertia although this is being eroded. If you can sell SCHW for 8k then why sell for less? Only when enough people are doing Velks to create a steady flow will it start to slide.

Meanwhile the vast number of newbies is saturating the normal newbie money-makers like spider silk etc and they are well below the prices on normal servers. So on a normal server 200 Spider Silk might buy you SCHW - on MR you are looking at 2500 to do the same thing.

New question on an old topic.

Do pet classes matter with some weapons. Ie if a junk weapon is say cleric only can an enchanter give it to his summoned pet and it will still wield it?

I'll check this tonight when I get home just wondered if any of you have already done the experiment.

I know the mages can get a water pets that is a rouges and necros can get thier monk pet ... wasn't sure if these pets can only use rogue/monk usable weapons.

Any insight?