A skill specific to the rogue class, the art of making and applying poison allows the rogue to gain an edge and fight with a poisoned weapon.
What is the best way to use and develop the poison skill? Which poisons are the most and least useful to make? What city is the best place to practice your art? Can you make a profit off of this skill, and if so how?
Post your strategies on how to best develop and use the poison making skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
I have the webpage saved for the Dragon Venom poison chart. It is the best poison making chart I have found but it is no longer hosted by anyone. The page I have shows recipes up to level 100. Anyway it would be nice to get a copy uploaded so maybe someone with more html fu or something could get it updated and up again.
I worked my Make Poison skill up to 275 making Spirit of Sloth. It trivials at 275 so you fail a ton but if you don't mind spending the plat you can just stand at the poison component vendors in PoK and just keep making it over and over. Cost me less than 10k plat.
From http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/showthread.php?30177-Complete-Tradeskill-Guide-5-0-(rev-10-2007) :: Mostly older recipes but still good: 0 - 54 Poisonmaking Freebie: Help Uiyaniv 55 - 98 Atrophic Sap 99 - 172 Calcium Rot 173 - 215 Metallic Alkaloid 216 - 258 Cyclic Vertigo 258 - 275 Spirit Of Sloth 276 - 300 Scoriae Bite - Soul Burn - Spine Rend - Bite Of The Shissar
From http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/showthread.php?33385-Complete-Tradeskill-Guide-6-1-(Serverwide-Drop-Edition)-Rev-Apr-2009 :: Might look at even newer ones (the 7.1 in Tradeskill Guides and UI Mods forum at EQTraders message boards): 0 - 54 Poisonmaking Freebie: Help Uiyaniv ..64 Scorpion's Agony I ..90 Scorpion's Agony II 123 Scorpion's Agony III 130 Scorpion's Agony IV 152 Scorpion's Agony V 170 Scorpion's Agony VI 215 Metallic Alkaloid 258 Cyclic Vertigo 275 Spirit Of Sloth 300 Scoriae Bite - Soul Burn - Spine Rend - Bite Of The Shissar
I am a level 36 rogue with a Make Poison skill of 56 ( trophy quest) I have tried making Anger of the Shissar I ( trivial of 52) an dI keep getting told I'm too inexperienced in my craft to even consider attempting this combine. What gives? Any info would be much appreciated.
Most stack up to 20, with spider venom and snake venom being exceptions. It says whether the poison is stackable or not on the Allakhazam entry for each individual poison.
1. Max skill is 300. (poison making and any tradeskill). You can find recipes right here on ZAM. Go to the homepage. Click on Database. Click on Receipes. Click on Recipe Search. Fill in the search boxes; Poisonmaking, Rogue, 345 (skill level). Click search. You will get a list of 1,461 recipes. eqtrader.com is another good site for info. Recipies and zones where dropped ingreients are found.
2. Skill can be raised to 345 by obtaining "Peerless Pestle". This item is obtained by doing the "Master Toxologist Quest, which gets you the Master Toxologist Trophy, which gets you the "Peerless Pestle". Equipping this item gives you plus 15% poison making skill. See NPC Baublie Diggs in West Freeport. There are 7 levels of trophies. I only did the last one because I was already at skill level 300 when the new system implemented. I made "Spirit of Sloth until skill level 280, and then "Soulburn" to level 300. I still have my "Grand Master Assassins Seal". Skill-up points become very difficult at the higher levels (2% -3% per 100 combines). It took me 1,200 combines to evolve the "Peerless Pestle" from 0% to 100%.
3. The new system has 3 kinds of poison
a) ROGUE ONLY DAMAGE - Level I (1) to XVI (16) As a level 83 Rogue I am able to make level XIV (14) poisons. I will move to level XV (15) poisons when I reach level 85. I can buy damage poison in the POK (West Trader Building - Poison Shop); or make damage poison. All ingredients, except mob drops are available in the poison shop. There are different flavors of damage poison.
b) ROGUE ONLY UTILITY - LEVEL I (1) to XV (15) There are about 8 different poisons with different effects that are used in combat. You can have 1 damage; and 1 utility poison applied at the same time. Utility poisons are made in 2 steps. The dropped ingredient is processed into a vial of liquid extract. The extract is then combined with the other ingredients necessary for the final poison.
c) ALL/ALL - LEVEL I (1) to XV (15) There are 2 different types; "SPIDER'S BITE" and "SCORPION'S AGONY". They have one dropped ingredient. These are made by the Rogue, but can be used by any character.
d) I suggest spending time with the recipe list.
d) There are also "AUGMENTS" and "TONICS" that I will not address in this post
Hope this helps.
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JINGUROM - LEVEL 83 ROGUE - MASTER POISONCRAFER, MASTER JEWELER, (soon to be) MASTER SMITH
EQTraders is a great resource for trades skills and has the recipes. I was hoping to hear what are the best at certain levels. It seems there are a LOT of great damage poisons but which seem to work the best?!?
The best vendors for poison making are in East Freeport. Go into Arena and run straight across it ,You will see the archway to exit arena,go there and take first left ..There you are. East freeport is the single best place to make poisons, there are vendors all around east freeport that sell components to Low and High trivial poisons. Many components that are rare or hard to find can be found here. You will be able to make many poisons without leaving East Freeport (except to go to bank when bags are full..Bank is in West Freeport). East freeport NEEDS a BANK..Anyways, Simply look up your poisons components here on alla and see who sells them in East Freeport, then go to find menu In-Game and there you are.. Most sub-combine ingredients are sold here ie... gnomish spirits,ore blocks and pieces ect... A lot of poisons Can be made without farming anything,and those are here .You just need plat,or make your own.. So good luck !!!
Flazor Kwikstik of Fennin Ro 217 in poison making at time of this post.
Edited, Dec 4th 2006 5:38pm by flazor
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"Let the Rogue Have it, He'll keep it safe" 85 Rogue of Fennin Ro
New to this whole weap poisoning thing - once you poison a weapon, how long does it stay on ur blade? Does it last for just the one mob? Or a time limit? Or until you log?
Did SPIRT OF SLOTH till I hit 261 then I switched over to SOUL BURN as I was loseing pp on ever successful combine
SOUL BURN sells for 14pp, plus the mobs in the Overthere drop plat and have a very short respawn. Granted Im pulling like 20 scorps at a time with my warrior, takes about 60secs to kill them, and I get around 5 poison sac per 20. Takes 5x longer to gather all the scorps then to kill em, and even longer to loot and destroy junk.
Still though, I think to get the 40 more skill ups, Ill need 1000+ poison sacs ( 500 combines )to get even close, and thats being really optimistic, even with stats maxxed at level 53.
Lvl 57 rogue, have tried 200+ combines now without any success to hit 300. If you follow the cap lvl math. 57 x 5 + 5= 290 I am at 299 so this doesnt seem to be the problem. Any help would be appreciated.
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Does anybody have any suggestions on what is easiest to grind with after Spirit of Sloth becomes triv at 275? I've been looking, but everything requires camping drops, bleh..
I have been working on my make poison skill for ages. And have just finish trivialing Calacium Rot at 172. I read that you can use skill points with the guild master in the PoK to raise your skill further. When I try he say that I am already trained to my experience or the like. I was lvl 50 at the time and have just got lvl 51 (with the same response). I can increase my own skill buy combining new poisons (i.e. i am not max out for my level).
My question is this- Is the previous note about being able to train with the DE ROG Guildmaster to 200 (if you have the plat) incorrect?
I have been using training points toward Apply Poison. I knew the other skills I could raise naturally. Once I was maxed at Apply Poison (200), I assumed I could help out my Make Poison skill (185). Wrong. How can I be more skilled at Make Poison than my Guildmaster? Does not seem right to me?
I know you message is kind of old, but here's the answer for anyone else interested. The only Rogue GM I know of that can train you higher in poison making is actually Stanos in High Hold. He can train you all the way to 250, if you have the plat! It was around 100pp per point when I did it, but your mileage may vary.
Things have changed. As of the date of this post, I could not use Dark Elf Mirot in POK or Stanos in High Hold to train me in Make Poison. My skill level is only (185). I'm not sure what I'm going to spend my available 7 points in...but I will not be running around looking for a GM to train in Make Poison.
There is a morter/pestal seller in Shadow Haven upper floor. I kept thinking it was a mixing bowl till I got smart and took a close look at it. Hope that helps.
He is upper deck - far left side - down about three buildings (right before the bank block).
WHY are you guys so old school there are some awesome new poisons out DUDE you can zone with them one they last on you wepons for 10 min each
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I would like to know if there is a way to stack poisons like the Shammy do Potions.. is this possible ? if so, how? if not, we should petition the want list for it. and also that ALL the poisons are duration based not 1 hit. so that it would become more productive for cost reasons
I am a level 34 Rougue my poison making is 175. The skill went from 172 to 175 in about 20 tries then in 400 tries it never went up. I stopped! Am I maxed for my level?
Yes, you can from most but not all rogue trainers. Cost varies from free to hundreds of pp depending on how skilled you already are in Poison Making. If you have the money, Stanos, in High Pass, can train you all the way to 200 (maybe 250).
I'm 90 rogue and finally getting my poisons caught up from 165. Stanos or the DE trainer in POK "DO NOT" train you to 250... Go figure at one point people probably were training to 250 and then almighty Sony took it away from the rest of us but never went back and took it away from those that got away with it...
the DE rogue trainer in PoK can train all the way to 250. But you are still restricted by lvl*5+5 for a lvl cap so you cannot get skill 250 until you reach lvl 60. Skill points 200+ are roughly 100pp per skill point.
i am at 97 poison and went to train a few points just to make an even 100 and none of the guildmasters in pok would train me because they are not that high a skill ~ Raserieksil Zek Knights of Shadowhawk