The Erudite

race logoThe Erudite starts off in either Erudin or Paineel on the Continent of Odus. In either city, Tox forest is available as a newbie hunting ground. What is the best strategy for playing a good Erudite? What is the best strategy for playing an evil Heretic Erudite? What zones and cities should you take him to and which ones should you avoid? Which factions should you work on improving, and which factions should you be wary of decreasing? Is there a way to develop anough faction to be accepted in the good cities? What are the best quests in Erudin or Paineel for the beginning Erudite? Where are the best shops? How should you role play your Erudite?

Post your strategies on how to best play a Erudite, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
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Just a Question...
# Feb 24 2007 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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This is quite off-topic but... What's the story behind the huge foreheads on these guys?
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follow the whisper
# Apr 20 2006 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
ne1 know where the port authority is? i need to get my ldon, wayfarer whisper...
Head grapic
# Nov 25 2004 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know how to remove the cloth head grapic on the Erudites? Or how to change the color of it if we can't remove it? I have tried to "dye" it, but it wont work. Or is there a head item that removes the cloth wrap?

Tunic
# Nov 24 2004 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm a High Elf. I wear Netted Kelp Tunic. You can see what tunics are available using Equipment - By Slot - Chest - restrict to Wizard.
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tunic for erudin wizzis
# Feb 18 2004 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Hiya :) Did someone know if there is a "good" tunic for wizards?? I am bored to wear this robes all the time. Have a lvl 61 Wizzi with the robe of haunted dreams (which looks like the low lvl robe.....forgot the name) :P white scaled tunic looks very nice one my female erudin....but the stats....... :(
RE PREPOK
# Jan 21 2004 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes there is an easy way to leave odus. You can use the spires on the paineel side of the river. just turn right when you leave paineel follow the zone edge untill you see the spires to your left talk to the npc she well give you a gem then wait after 15 mins or less youwill zone to the nexus from there you can go where ever you want. good luck:)

Edited, Wed Jan 21 20:03:50 2004
RE: RE PREPOK
# Jul 14 2005 at 2:47 PM Rating: Default
He's referring to the Discord server which had Old World only zones. For anybody still curious you can take the boat in Erudin to Qeynos. If you're from Paineel I'd suggest waiting until you're high enough to invis and then invis your way through Erudin to reach the boat.
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RE: RE PREPOK
# Sep 26 2005 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
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SK's can't invis until 30. :D Bertoxxulous help anyone who has to level to 30 on Odus. They get Sneak, though, although I'm not sure what level.
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PrePoP Evil Erudite Leave Odus
# Dec 23 2003 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there anyway for a pre-planes of power evil Erudite to leave Odus?

Im on the discord server and without a PoK book I dont know how to get my erudite SK off Odus without running thru Erudin. Please help.
Erudite Paly
# Sep 26 2003 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a Erudite Paladin on the Drinal server. I have played many erudian characters before but never stuck with them. I like my paly however, I've noticed some things about us Eruds. We have low ac. Very low, like 2ac to start with. Which makes us exceptionally vunrable to even newbie mobs. I had a hard time getting to lvl 5. I only have some cloth armor on me. I ran into a nice Froglok who gave me a tenticle whip. Then a Iksar warrior who gave me two shadwoscream steel bracers. My ac is still lacking though. Our newbie zone isn't that great for hunting in either. Its always empty and the stupid emissary's are walking around killing everything. Anyways, I'm not going to give up on this character. I'm currently in Gfay trying to level up since its more populated there. Hope to get a group or find a hunting partner.

Edited, Fri Sep 26 20:03:18 2003
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RE: Erudite Paly
# Mar 25 2004 at 7:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Erudite Pally, gotta admire that, my Erud mage struggled with the ac, (till her alt got her a pile of CB belts to get her to pet level). but two ac for a pally I cry for you.
I asume you took this toon on for a challenge as the main attribute for an Erudin is their Uber INT, the last attribute a pally need is.....well INT. Goodluck hope you stick with it.
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RE: Erudite Paly
# Sep 26 2005 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
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It's the low AGI that hurts AC. If it's below 75 then you take a substantial drop in AC at early levels. I remember starting an Erudite caster once and it had an AC of ZERO! If you're not twinking, and you're starting an Erudite, put some of those skill points into AGI no matter WHAT your class, at least get it to 76.
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I need tips
# Aug 27 2003 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I just started an Erudite Shadownight! And it seems like there aren't very many at all. Can anyone tell me where I would be KOS at and give me some tips on it.
RE: I need tips
# Feb 07 2004 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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you aren't KOS in Ak'Anon, nor are you in Neriak, as far as Oggok though prolly are due to race.
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RE: I need tips
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
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You are KOS in Erduin, Greater Faydark, ButcherBlock, Qeynos and maybe Al Akon. In Freeport you are KOS in North Freeport. You may even be KOS in Nierik and Ogglok due to your race.
Erudian Cleric
# Jul 10 2003 at 12:05 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, here goes, I've a Cleric,<lvl 32> she is awesome, like me, in the real world; she loves to help others. I don't play with another Class. We are helpers / assisters. Not fighters..........UNLESS we must fight. [Like that'll do alot of justice]. Run, gate or zone, Yeah! If the heat gets too hot, I'll shout warnings, let you know what me situation is & "jet". There are only a few in EQ that I will DIE trying to save from death. Could you be one of the few, the proud, the "One" ?? I'll rez u first.

I Do live with the "Paladin" attitude : "Do Your BEST to leave NO male / female behind". Now, "Carry On .....Soldier"!!!!!!!! :))

Question is as follows: Pray tell, Where do I find the "Temperance" spell?
newbie query
# Jun 16 2003 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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As an agnostic newbie Erudite wizard, where would I be KOS, provided I've never muffed up my faction with anyone....Just in evil cities, or do I just need to con as I go? (I know I should get in that habit anyway, but I'm scared to go anywhere except right off of the Erudin porch in Tox Forest right now) There not currently being a newbie armor quest for my race/class, I'd like to at least make some pp, and the loot I've come across so far leaves me...shall we say "underwhelmed"?
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RE: newbie query
# Aug 11 2003 at 3:36 PM Rating: Default
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You better quit before you become some 50 year old geek who still lives in his mom's basement and strips in a retirement home to pay for the monthly fee, unless your already at that point. If so I advise you to get off that 70 year old woman and find a job.
RE: newbie query
# Jul 23 2003 at 3:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've taken my Agnostic Erudite Mage to Greater Faydark, Quenos, Western and Northern Karana without problems. I also entered the "Evil" city Paineel and the newbie hole there without KOS from anyone. However, some of the merchants in Queynos and Karana wouldn't deal with me due to my race.

Haven't tried others yet.

BTW: we now have an Erudin caster's newbie armor set of quests, still working on those (see Bracer of the Craft Keeper, etc). Seems like we will need to do some travelling, since our main item required (Woven Spider Silk) is unavailable on Toxxulia, I'm hoping to find some on the spiders in Greater Faydark and Lesser Faydark. If you don't have PoP, I guess you're out of luck...
Armor look vs. robe ...
# Apr 17 2003 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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For those who would prefer a different look to that of a robe, may I suggest the chest/leg combo I have -- it's cheap and can be found fairly often at the bazaar; have even seen the tunic in Erudin once as well. However, I have to whine a little at the "ballet slipper" look that a lot of boots project on an Erudite, lol -- and let's not EVEN discuss the color choices!
Besides, this combo gives more AC protection + bonus stats than most newbie robes I've seen.

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necro
# Apr 17 2003 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I am lvl 14 necro can I hunt in pc yet or where would be a good option
RE: necro
# Apr 25 2003 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
You can hunt in PC - but generally not solo. Go up the ramp and hunt the aliens or shrooms. Take a group with you.
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#Nexuskiller, Posted: Feb 25 2003 at 1:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let me tell you about an idea i had one day. I was running through Grater faydark and i had accedently attacked a nexus at the wizzy spires. Needless to say that i was killed Instantly. I was extreamly mad because i lost my exp. Through my hatered i studied the creature and i devised the most extravagant scheme ever. I was wondering if my fellow Citizens of norrath would aid me. Darkies and Lighties come together in a mass horde to take one down. "What's in it for me" a person might ask. Well i think that not only the feeling you get from uniting with all of the inhabitants of norrath to squash a common evil but a great possibilty of an uber pay off and Extream exp or maybe nothing just a cold hard defeat.I am not really sure if they drop anything or if they even give exp.They are most likely the least killed Npc in the game. I have heard of one or two being killed but to my knowlage no loot has ever been identified. There are only a couple of reasons why i have not been able to find the loot items either 1. The uber guild who took one down came up with an awsome item that they dont want to get nerfed because of 1000000 crying lowbies saying its too powerfull so they did not add it to new item lists 2. None of them have ever been killed 3. Normal Loot for lvl of mob 4. No loot :( Now i am not really sure yet of the master plan but i am thinking along the lines of a massive head on attack group attack at random with no aperant stratagey.A person could even make a mule char and lvl to 5 or 6 toe just for this battle.Toe to Toe with the Unchecked Evil of the world. Or i have got a more methodical aproach. Either way i could be just stupid or really tired but that is my idea and i am willing to set up shop on any server. e-mail me at massive_nexus_strike@YHAOO.COM if you have any ideas, you want to join (( lvl is of no importance 1-65 doesnt matter Class either warriors clerics shaman monks i am in need of warm bodies :) )) or you just want to flame about how stupid i am either way i will welcome your emails and i will try my very best to email you back .No matter what it says. More information on nexus is always welcome. E-mail me and give it a chance.
The Story of Odus - Bristlebane
# Feb 10 2003 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
On the Bristlebane Server, there is a guild that claims all rights to govern Odus. It is an Erudite-only roleplaying affiliation called the High Keepers of Odus.

On the Bristlebane Server, Odus has a story.

Yes, recently the Story of Odus has been written, which tells the background history of Odus and the High Keepers of Odus, its (former) army the Foreign Legion of Odus, and the men who made it that way.

It is a wonderful tale filled with magic, prose, poetry, and most importantly, Erudites.

View it at http://www.geocities.com/HKOdus
It can be found under the "News" category.

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Eurodite/Enchanter
# Feb 03 2003 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
I am a Eurodite Enchanter. I have a yellow robe, shoes, and that's about it. Do I eventually get armour? Do I need armour? Also, when I tried buying a short sword, it told me that it wasn't the right weapon for my class - all I have is a small dagger and keep getting my **** kicked. HELP :)

Also, is there a spell that can morph me from one place to another? It's a pain waiting for the ships to port, and as I said above - I keep getting my **** kicked by things. I'm at lvl 4, close to 5. Have been playing for about 2 weeks.
RE: Eurodite/Enchanter
# Dec 03 2003 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Start going to the Bazaar in Luclin, you can buy some magic robes and stuff fairly cheap at times.
Necromancer
# Jan 31 2003 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
Hi all. I play an Erudite Necromancer and was reading over these posts. I saw nothing about necromancers here, so i fugred id throw in my two cp. I will include the leveling areas that i went to in order to level rather quickly.

Levels 1 - 4 : Stay in the Paineel Newbie zone, it is not bad exp, and you can loot Plague Rat Tails off of the rats and sell them for about 1pp (Nice For Newbie Spells)

Levels 4 - 8 : Go to Toxxulia. If you go to the right towards the wizard spires you will run into a 4 spawn Kobold camp. I stayed here through level 8, watch out for the Shaman he will slow your pet, kill him first. Sure, its no tthe BEST exp, but there is nice money and it gives you a chance to experiment with your character.

Levels 8 - 12 : Go to the Field Of Bone. I know it is an evil city, but if you watch your **** you should be ok. Hunt Giant Scorpions in the pit, and anything else that cons well. You will hit level 12 before you know it.

Levels 12 - 16 : Go to Kurn's Tower. It is on the opposing side of the pit in the Field Of Bone, on the edge of the pit. You cant miss it. Fight Greater Skeletons, the experience in there is awesome, even good grouped. If you are really brave, you can go down to the Burynai area. You will need a group for sure to do this.

Levels 16 - 24 : Go to Paludal Caverns on Luclin. Your level 16 pet can tank Patog Fiends if they come only one at a time. The experience off of these dies out at level 18 or so. At this time try to get a group at one of the Recondite Camps. People will usually accept you and the experince will go rather quickly.

Levels 24 - 29 : Go to High Hold Keep. You will be KOS, so put on Gather Shadows before going down to the camps. The experience is very fast in here. You will be level 29 in 2 days. Until level 27 stay at the Guard Room (GR). At level 27 try to get a Warrior Room (WR) group until level 29. You will have no need to do much in these groups, the mobs die very quickly and your spells will not help much so just use your pet and make sure he stays buffed.

Levels 29 - 34 : Go to The Overthere and fear kite at the Skyfire zone. Watch out for Tigers as they will kill you, but everything else is relatively easy to kill. You should be able to sell and bank at the Dark Elf Outpost. You can take Red cons here IF you know how to fear kite effectively.

Levels 34 - 39 : Go to The Great Divide and fear kite by the Eastern Wastes zoneline. Kill Frost Giant Scouts and Drakkel Dire Wolves for the best EXP. It will go by fast, and you will get some nice items doing this, so it is profitable in more ways than one. Kill Drakkel Blood Wolves on the off chance that you see them. They drop the MQ for a nice legging quest.

Levels 39 - 44 : Go to The Mines Of Nurga. The experience there is AWESOME and easy soloable to a necromancer if you go to the right places. You will figure it out quickly as did I and keep the Green Goblin Skins and Mt. Death Mineral Salts that drop! They sell for 60pp a piece in bazaar on Torvonilous Server. I went up as a trader and sold one levels worth of Salts / Skins and made 2.6k.

Levels 44 - 46 : Go to The Dreadlands, fear kite by Karnor's Castle. Watch out for the Spiders they make for difficult kills. They have Damage Shields (12 pt.), nuke, and root. I would guess they are Druids judging by their Damage Shields, the type of nukes, and the fact that their roots do Damage, however they could be Rangers as well.

Levels 46 - 49 : I am currently level 46, and doing the Spirocs in Timorous Deep. They are awesome experience and easy kills. I am doing this until level 49. I will let ya know when I get past this place and tell ya where to go next.

Well thats it, hope I helped. Good luck to ya!

Edited, Fri Jan 31 18:00:56 2003
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# Dec 17 2002 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey yall eq was in the news (specifically cnn). They were doing a show on fantasy worlds (ie. harry potter and lord of the rinds) and stated that eq was the largest fantasy world or something like that. they brought up the mage/wizzy pic from pop.

that is it figured i would catch yall up on it, don't know how many actual caught it. but oh well now yall know.

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Evil Erudite Clerics
# Nov 14 2002 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I think that I just like to go for the "off the beaten path" type of characters, So I made an Evil Erudite Cleric. First thing, let me say that the Newbie Armor Quest for this character is the coolest of any I've seen. The armor is jet black with very subtle maroon highlights. The Vambraces make you look like an Uber 65 because of the awesome shoulders. Very cool armor: I get highbees asking to inspect me all the time on their way to the Hole!!! hehe

I do have some questions, though. I've never made a Cleric before and am wondering what areas would be good to graduate to after reaching the 19th spell circle. I think I'll be ready to get the **** out of the Warrens at that point, but because I'm evil, I'll have difficulty trading, etc. I'm used to the evil char thing, but what is the best area for clerics given their penchant for killing undead mobs?

Thanks,
Scott
Giant Skellys, Kunark
# Nov 14 2002 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
The Giants Skeletons in Rathe Mtns are an exp dream in the 20-25 range. There's also a haunted tower that a great place to hunt. Unfortunetely, it's a FAR way from any towns friendly to you, as you won't be welcome in Oggok or Grobb. You can sell at the gypsies in Lake Rathe though, and buy food and drink.

After that, there's Kunark. You should be welcome at the Evil Outpost on OT, and good or evil, everyone will want you in their group. That'll get you to high 30's. Then the Dreadlands. You can solo the skellies at the combine ruins if you like, but getting a group should be a snap.
You'll probably find you have more luck grouping than trying to solo though. You die a lot less in a group :)
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help
# Nov 09 2002 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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do erudites make good SK's
RE: help
# Dec 17 2002 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
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think of this, is the str. good enough to hit constently high. you really got to think that the erudits generally hate physical work. that is why they are called the high men (intell indicates that), so i would say no.

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attitude
# Oct 31 2002 at 1:18 AM Rating: Default
Personally when i think Erudite i think Frasier Crane.
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Rp erudite
# Sep 29 2002 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
I am an erudite mage that tried to do the right thing and use the toxxulia forrest as starting zone, and I follow quellious. As a mage, I feel we have to have groups, since we cant take a hit well. Oh, on a side note, Erudite paladins are the toughest around, they cannot die it seems, I saw an erudite paladin in the warrens at 12, 5 kobolds on him 3 guards, 2 scouts and he just did not die. As a follower of Quellious, I see the search for inner enlightenment as comprable to the selfishness ideal that is represented in Innoruk. Since we will spend our time researching and learning things to the exclusion of all else. Evil races tend to like this aspect it seems and if you are grouped and you teach them a language, they are gratefull and may offer the occasional nice piece of armor to sell. Summoning bandages is always a plus for them. I suppose you can be snooty, but Erudites are also the pinnacle of social grace, so I think the ability to "converse" as it were, with all races is a plus and if you are excruciatingly polite, it tends to show. Also, Erudites always trade. If someone offers you something you must offer something in return (Gatecallers)summoned items or otherwise or coin. The fact that there really is no “newbie” armor for Erudite casters is, well, ok because it trains you how to battle and it trains the people you are grouped with to try to help you. Also, Erudite casters must learn to take a hit sometimes, you can be snooty afterwards, but being selfish and not talking to anybody while the battle has ended and you are binding your wounds until 50 health is a nice characteristic. But your grace will show when you cast flame shield on the medding group members without being asked, and you’re in a dingeon, as if to protect them the only way you know how.
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epic
# Sep 14 2002 at 1:26 AM Rating: Decent
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where doo i start mai erudite pally epic?...just wanna knoe early...
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The RP'ed Erudite (help!)
# Sep 05 2002 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent
After playing EQ for... well... a long time, i decided to join a couple of friends that are starting to play on the FV server. I want to do a good job with role-play, and would like the advice of others on how to go about it.

As i understand it, Erudites are supposed to be superior, snooty, and condescending, generally speaking. However, i doubt all races would be treated exactly the same, nor would Erudites be obnoxious to the point of totally alienating everyine else... they're smart enough (one would hope,) to know that would not he a bright thing to do.

I do think my enchanter would be more tolerant than some Erudites, as he IS a follower of Quellious, the Tranquil. Therefore, he by definition would be s seeker of knowledge, and prone to travel, as indicated by the "book" definition of a Quellious worshipper. But i'm still curious about how he should act race-relation wise.

Some are easy calls... Ogres, Trolls, and Iksar would be KOS if possible, and if not, there would certainly never be found a kind word passing between them and an Erudite

Teir'dal though, due to their studies of "pure" magic arts (wizards, mages, and enchanters,) might be tolerated as a useful source of information / source of learning.

Barbarians... my gut says unwashed heathen, and conversation would be just cordial enough to avoid having one's arm pulled off.

Humans, especially mage-classes, would probably be the race to which we'd have the most condescending attitude. I'm thinking, "Oh, a human wizard... how quaint."

High Elves, i believe would be treated as intellectual and magical equals... though the High Elves might not think of us as being THEIR equals, from a societal standpoint.

But what of Dwarves, Wood Elves, Half-elves, Gnomes, and Kerrans? Here, i'm stumped.

Does anyone have any advice on how i might act towards ANY of these races? While i may have some opinions on how Erudites may relate to a race, i'm very much interested in conflicting opinions.
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RE: The RP'ed Erudite (help!)
# Sep 05 2002 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
In the Library of the High Keepers of Odus, http://www.geocities.com/HKOdus/library.html , there is an article entitled "An Objective Glance at the Races of Norrath." This fully outlines the basics of Erudian attitudes towards all the other races. For your RP'ed attitudes towards these, take a look at the article.

With the exception of Kerrans, so I will outline that here. When the Erudites finally arrived on Odus, the Vah Shir were running a large Empire that extended all across the continent and into various island chains to the south and east. As Erud and his followers began to build Erudin and introduce civilisation to the area, the Vah Shir resisted. The ensuing conflict lasted for ages, eventually ending (ironically) during the Erudite Civil War. The Vah Shir capital city was relocated to Luclin and the remaining Vah Shir, loyal to King Vah Kerrath (hence "Kerrans"), were rounded up and forcibly moved to Kerra Isle to the west of Odus.

In short, due to the legendary conflict, Kerrans and Vah Shir are looked upon as vile scum, no better if not worse than a lowly Kobold, and meritirious of nothing other than death. I hope this helps.

When in doubt, just remember you are an Erudite- look down on everyone.

Edited, Thu Sep 5 21:24:47 2002
newbie wiz equip
# Jul 30 2002 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
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anyone have an idea when us erudite wizzies will get their fair share of newbie equip. even though i am higher level some of the stuff in other races isnt too bad
No Newbie Armor Quest
# Jul 15 2002 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I just started an Erudite Necro. My wife suggested I stick around Odus long enough to do the Erudite newbie armor quest before I hooked up with her DE Necro.

I was surprised to find no newbie armor quests for Erudites. I was SHOCKED that EVERY other race/class has newbie armor quests.

Does Verant have any plans for Erudite newbie armor quests? And if not, why? I know that supposedly art imitates life, but.........
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RE: No Newbie Armor Quest
# Dec 28 2002 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually I just started a Erudite Mage and looked forever only to find there was no newbie armor quest. What are Erudite newbie casters supposed to do for half way decent armor like all the other races get?

Howls

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RE: No Newbie Armor Quest
# Aug 29 2002 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
Yesterday I explored paineel and found a necro trainer that also gives out newbie armor quests for different pieces. I didn't investigate further.
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[65 Arch Lich] Knochi Blutwurst (Iksar)
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RE: No Newbie Armor Quest
# Jul 16 2002 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
This would be an excellent idea, and there will probably be newbie quests involving some form of ring-mail equivalent, with some small bonuses. This will help out the paladins and clerics.

However, keep in mind that there ARE two relateed quests for ringmail armor pieces: The Kobold Molar quests in both Erudin and Paineel. While they don't gain you specific pieces, and there's only about a 20% chance you'll get a random piece when turning the molars in, they ARE doable starting at around level 5 or 6 in the Warrens. (At level 5, make sure you are well buffed, or with friends, however.)

The skeptic in me thinks the odds of there ever being caster quests for newbie armor are extremely remote.

Edited, Tue Jul 23 09:31:58 2002
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Arjaizen Izrhume
Former Wizard of Erudin,
Current Mage of Northshire Valley
RE: No Newbie Armor Quest
# Jan 09 2003 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
Well, they have the newbie armor quests in for all Paineel-bred heretics (My 27 Necro is still using a few pieces of it!) but not for the Erudites of Erudin, as yet. Here's to hoping that SOE gets with the program... (The high elves, dwarves, halflings, dark elves, and humans/half elves all have newbie armor. Why not the Erudites?)
Erudites are cool
# Jun 25 2002 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
If you're ever feeling glum from dying 20 times in a row recovering your corpse, the Erudites are the only race that has quick, easy, comic relief. Just make an Erudite Necro or SK, put your fingers on the camera angle and screen shot buttons, and leap into the Hole a couple of times. The first time I saw- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...(Loading, please wait)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have fallen for 100,000 damage. You have died-
I nearly wet myself. I then did it about 100 more times. Or maybe I'm just sadistic. I don't know.
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RE: Erudites are cool
# Oct 22 2002 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
hehe i will make sure i have erudite friends because i think they are cool too :)
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The Dark Truth
# Jun 16 2002 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
An essay on the compatibility of the Dark Truth with Erud's original vision can be found at http://www.geocities.com/HKOdus/library.html courtesy of the High Keepers of Odus.
The LIBRARY
# May 08 2002 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
For those of you interested in further information concerning the Erudite race, you may find it interesting to visit the <a href=http://geocities.com/HKOdus/library.html>Library</a> of the High Keepers of Odus, an Erudite-only guild on Bristlebane. Our library contains a great deal of less-commonly-known information, including demographical surveys, editorials, and histories.
RE: The LIBRARY
# May 08 2002 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
Let me clarify that web address. Our Library is located at http://geocities.com/HKOdus/library.html
Erud
# Mar 27 2002 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I love my Female Erud SK, she looks absolutley awesome with her Helm of Ridossan, black alloy mail, and a couple flayed items, I love being one of only 4 female erud SK's I've ever seen on Tunare, makes me feel as special as Erudites are.


Fazina Valourbreaker,
ShadowKnight of the Fell Sword,
20th circle.

Edited, Mon Apr 15 04:27:07 2002
Armor
# Mar 24 2002 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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What is the best armor for a Wizzy that isn't planar or uber-dragon loot? I've recently come into a large amount of money =P and I want to know what kind of armor I should get. Thanks in advance.
The Erudite Starting Room
# Mar 21 2002 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
I can't seem to get out of it. I created a new Erutdite wizard, and now I'm stuck in a room with four walls and no concievable way out.

The floor and ceiling are both tiled and Say "Welcome to the high city Erudin" on each. The walls are dark unless I get to a certain point in relation to them. All the walls are a non-descript brown, except one which repeatedly says "Goto 0 0 20." I have no idea how to get out. Can anyone help me? I'm pretty sure there is a teleporter in here somewhere, but I can't find it.
RE: The Erudite Starting Room
# May 01 2002 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Somehow, you got dropped into the zone's "safe point" at creation time. Sometimes, when something strange happens when entring a zone, you can get dropped into this kind of room. Thankfully it doesn't happen often. (I've been playing for over 2 years, and it hasn't happend to me yet.)

As Gallius said, since this was a brand new character, you could delete the character and create another one. You could also /petition a GM to get you out. Considering how long it seems to take for a /petition to be answered, re-creating your character would be the best option.
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Former Wizard of Erudin,
Current Mage of Northshire Valley
RE: The Erudite Starting Room
# Mar 30 2002 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
This happened to me the first time I began. The only solution I could find was to delete the character and start over. It worked the second time and I am now level 29.
High Keepers of Odus
# Feb 03 2002 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
This is an update to my last entry here. If you are an Erudite on the Bristlebane Server and would like to join an Erudite-oriented guild (WARNING: /roleplay) then get in contact with one of our Councillors- Gallius, Zzigg, Jensara, or Arizun- and you may be admitted. For more information speak to a guild member in-game or visit our website at http://geocities.com/HKOdus
Steelsilk
# Jan 31 2002 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
5 posts
Anyone on Veeshan server make Steelsilk armor? It's the erudite cultural and im interested in purchasing some, please post reply if you can! Thanks
RE: Steelsilk
# May 02 2002 at 3:26 PM Rating: Excellent
I hope you manage to find someone, but don't be surprised to find that the price of a piece of steelsilk completely blows your mind.

First of all, there's the problem of getting the silk. It only drops off Terrorantula, a rare spawn in South Ro. A tailor will need to do a LOT of camping just to get enough silks to make a few pieces, and as the saying goes, time is money.

You need to find a friendly high-level enchanter to cast a purify mana spell that requires four rubies costing a total of over 520 platinum as a component. It also requires platinum thread, the cost of which I don't know, but anything with the word "platinum" in it isn't cheap. Figure it could cost in the area of 600plat just to attempt to make a piece.

Keep in mind that this stuff never becomes trivial, so any tailor that's making this stuff is likely to charge you a minimum of 1500plat for a single piece. The cost goes even higher if you want the imbued version.

As nice as it sounds to have a suit of cultural armor, in the case of the Erudites, it's just far to difficult to make, and far too costly to buy, relative to dropped/quested items you can get.
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Arjaizen Izrhume
Former Wizard of Erudin,
Current Mage of Northshire Valley
Paladin
# Jan 28 2002 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
5 posts
WEll, I have done something that very few erudites have ever thought of doing, I have created an erudite paladin. After careful consideration of what race to choose, i went with the erudite because there are so very few of them. I will make this work, hopefully. I also jope to be the first of many to come!!
RE: Paladin
# Mar 15 2002 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
Welcome to the few and the proud. :-) I started my Erudite pally for the same reason. There's something I like about being nearly unique.

What server are you playing on? If it's The Nameless, then look for either of my below-listed characters for a bit of comradeship.

Fare well, and good hunting!

Bejaizen Izrhume, Paladin of the 23rd Rank
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Arjaizen Izrhume
Former Wizard of Erudin,
Current Mage of Northshire Valley
High Keepers of Odus
# Jan 14 2002 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
If you have an Erudite (or would like to hang around a bunch of us) on the Bristlebane Server, you may send Gallius or Zzigg a /tell, and we may invite you into the High Keepers of Odus. This is a new Erudite-oriented guild, which focuses on many activities to further Erudite culture and goals. See our (very unfinished) website http://geocities.com/HKOdus/mainpage.html for more information.
NEW Erudite Graphics (Luclin)
# Dec 05 2001 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Good lord. Erudites look, quite frankly, like ass. More than half their face is nothing but forehead (on males). Made me wanna cry, then delete my 45 Erudite SK. I was hoping for something totally awesome looking. Instead, it looks like I'll be known as **** to my guildmates. Oh well...

I'll actually get SoL, look at myself with the new models, and decide from there. This really **** me off though.
RE: NEW Erudite Graphics (Luclin)
# Apr 15 2002 at 1:39 AM Rating: Decent
10 posts
At first, I was disappointed when I saw the new graphics for erudites. Not too disapointed, afterall, I did notice the artwork when the game first came out. I always thought that we resembled coneheads in a way.
Now when I look at he graphic, I think we are just plain cool. I like the idea of the magnitude of our intelligence being so very obvious. When I see a spellcaster, I think smart. When I see an erudite spellcaster, I think really smart. I have an erudite necromancer, so I might be just a little bit biased. I'm just glad we don't look like plain-old humans anymore. We dont look as cool as trolls, but none of the other races do either. Now all Verant needs to is give the race some innate telepathic/telekinetic abilities to go with our new graphic and we're set:)

Edited, Mon Apr 15 02:36:11 2002
RE: NEW Erudite Graphics (Luclin)
# Feb 07 2002 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
41 posts
Not all the new graphics are bad.
Ogre males look awesome and so do trolls. I agree that half elfs and erudites aren't too great but quit whining about it. Also humans and dwaerfs look really cool, and halflings look good too. If you have a problem with the graphics complain to verant, not to Allakhazam.
RE: NEW Erudite Graphics (Luclin)
# Dec 31 2001 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
I agree... I downloaded Luclin, and go to look at my characters. It seems that my Half-Elf lost about 150 pounds, his armour, and most notably his pants. I later found where that 150 pounds had gone... right onto my Erudite. He also seemed to be missing the top half of his robe and he snarled and bared his teeth when he struck something with his staff. Very undignified. Oh, and did I mention he looks like an orc when he casts spells? So I go to my Wood Elf, who is wearing a full suit of chain mail... oops! Not anymore, it seems that Verant stole that too, and the wood elf is now wearing practically nothing. I immediately returned to the options menu and turned off all the graphics. It also seems that my entire guild has them turned off as well. Perhaps Verant might consider using thier brains and allowing our characters to keep their clothes on and maintain the dignity of the Erudite race.
RE: NEW Erudite Graphics (Luclin)
# Dec 06 2001 at 1:14 PM Rating: Excellent
I wouldn't get all that concerned about the SK. I hear that the helm models do a good job of disguising the foreheads, so clerics, paladins, and SKs are likely to be fine. It's the pure casters that don't have the same head-covering options that will get the razzing. Then again, from what I hear, we won't get a peep from the Wood Elves... the males, anyway. :-)

I was wondering why it was that with all the dozens of screen shots we were seeing out of Luclin that we never saw a single Erudite. I guess we know the answer to that now...

Awaiting the results of my "transformation" with no small amount of anxiety...

(Below text added via edit on 1/2/02)

Wow... I got Luclin for Christmas, and I must say I'm blown away by the difference in the character models. The Erudite foreheads are nowhere near as bad as one might think. If you have headgear, or give your caster hair, it's not bad at all. Oddly enough, the women seem to look better bald. Maybe it's me. :-)

Looks like as far as Erudites are concerned, it's going to be either you love 'em or you hate 'em. I don't think there's going to be much middle ground. But the armor is lightyears better. My paladin, in his dyed fine plate, looks positively righteous. :-)

One bad thing: If you get SoL, your appearance to all non-SoL users will be the default for your race. In other words, if you chose some other look in the pre-Luclin game, you won't look like yourself anymore to anyone that's not playing SoL.

Edited, Wed Jan 2 14:08:04 2002
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Former Wizard of Erudin,
Current Mage of Northshire Valley
Erudites
# Nov 18 2001 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been playing the game for about a year and always in the back of my mind was my love of Eruidites although I've never actually had any long-term success with one. I've always loved their armor. IMHO, the chain/plate armor looks the best in the game. Last night I was standing at the tunnel entrance in EC when BOOM ran right into an Erudite Necro and WOW she looked awesome. I asked to inspect and she was wearing some gray plate-like top and several pieces of flayed (purple) armor. I currently have a 29 high-elf cleric and a 29 Wood-Elf Druid as my mains but I am seriously considering an erudite.

Are erudite paladins, clerics, and SKs the only ones that can wear the banded-looking armor (not nnecessarily banded but that look)? I love the chain top and the pink skirt. OK so I'm an EQ fashion lover, sue me!

I noticed that Necros seem to be able to wear armor (more leather/plate looking) where other pure casters are stuck with robes.

However, if I make an Erud Nec how in the world am I supposed to get off of Odus? Port looks like the only option since Qeynos is KOS.

Thanks for any advice you can give me!!
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#Omnislayer, Posted: Dec 13 2001 at 7:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok... the purple armor is called flayed skin... all erudite/human necros and sk's wear it at sometime in their life... as for getting off odus... just take the boat moron! if the erudin guards are dubious to you, you can get to qeynos. Once at qeynos hop off the boat swim right to the next port over before you land and swim down the aquaducts, if you have a map or experience you can get through to NQ easy for a bind. Once bound you may proceed to WK or BB for faction... once your faction is high enough you can turn in bandit sashes and say good bye to your human sk/necro guild factions cause you just killed it. if you get lucky it is possible to stay on odus till like your mid 30's(depending on grouping) stonebrunt is awsome, kerra isle is great xp if you have a group, warrens is a death trap, but it works for xp if you can get a group. paineel is the best newby area ever, no contest.
RE: Erudites
# Dec 06 2001 at 2:14 PM Rating: Excellent
There's at least one exception to the cloth-only armor for non-necro casters that I know about: I managed to pick up drakkel wolfhide tunic and leggings from a vendor in Erudin, for which I paid the pittance of 3pp each, believe it or not.

The tunic is AC12, and the leggings, AC9, so they are VERY nice protection-wise, especially for the usually cloth-bound caster classes. They have the appearance of leather. The leggings also have a minor resistance bonus, but I don't remember what it is off the top of my head. The real beauty of these items is their weight: 0.1 each. Also, they can be worn by all races, all classes.

So stay away from those nasty heretics ;-) and make yourself a caster from one of the Towers of Magic in Erudin Palace.
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Former Wizard of Erudin,
Current Mage of Northshire Valley
RE: Erudites
# Nov 20 2001 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, its not that hard to get off Odus at all. And the docks at Erudin arent KOS. They're dubious. The docks at Qeynos I believe, are dubious as well. Be sure to con first though. I know for a fact that the casters guild in South Qeynos is KOS. They're the guys in blue robes. If you want the safest bet, the moment you land at the qeynos docks, jump off the docks and make your way to the sewers. Entrance to the sewers is just below the "double" docks "next door", not the ones where you get off the boat. The human evil guilds are down there. If you dont know where to bind safely: Ask someone in the zone to invis you and then run out to North Qeynos. Ask someone to bind you in the secret sewer entrance. The secret sewer entrance is found simply by following the walls of qeynos to your right. REALLY hug the wall and you'll see a section where moss is growing over it. Just walk through the wall there. Thats a good place to bind. Ask someone to show you the way to the evil guilds in the sewers, its a maze down there...almost. I didnt find it too hard though, once I got someone to show me. Theres even a banker down there. Specs and other NPC's down there as well but they're related to the evil guild and you wont be KOS to them.

Arkken Bloodyskull - Erudite Warlock of Cazic Thule
Elurantec Hellphyre - Sorcerer of Prexus

Errolisi Marr
RE: Erudites
# Dec 29 2001 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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An evil Erudite walking through Qeynos, without faction work, is committing suicide. The corrupt Qeynos guards don't bother you, but the goody-two-shoes Qeynos guards will smack and evil Erudite down with the greatest of ease; not to mention a good portion of the Qeynos citizenry. I actually managed to get through South Qeynos unmolested. However, North Qeynos is extremely dangerous. The two guards that guard the entrance through the north gate will go after an evil Erudite. This mean you cannot get out of Qeynos on the surface without invisiblity. Take Steeleblayde's advice and go through the sewers. I have found the only thing an evil character has to worry about in the sewers are sharks (which are rare). Good characters, on the other hand, are in big trouble if they get to close to the evil human guild down there.

Edited, Sat Dec 29 11:41:43 2001
RE: Erudites
# Nov 21 2001 at 4:02 AM Rating: Decent
My Cazic Thule worshipping Necromancer, was KOS as could be at the Qeynos docks. I got a port to WC and just skipped all that BS.
RE: Erudites
# Nov 20 2001 at 8:06 PM Rating: Default
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Ah Erudites!
# Nov 14 2001 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
My favorite class :)

Well regardless of good erudite or bad erudite, the paineel newbie zone is THE place to level up to 5 or so. Any class really. The mobs rarely gang up on you and bone chips fall in plenty.

(Quests for exp, money, faction with the chips.)

From Paineel newbie area, head to Warrens. Level up till you start hitting too many greens. All of this can be done solo.

Once you've hit the wall for greens, move on to stonebrunt. High teens low twenties should be good.

After that, you're on your own!
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Something different
# Nov 14 2001 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
For some reason, my favorite race is the Erudite. I have both a wizard (lvl 21,) and a paladin (lvl 12). Sure, it's annoying to be blind as a bat at night, and if you're not a caster, the challenge of carrying ANYTHING if you are in decent armor is interesting, to say the least, but in general, it's a lot of fun.

I think it's the intelligence I like the most. It's nice to be able to learn darned near anything I want, and do it pretty quickly. Since I like to RP, and Erudites are supposed to be seekers of knowledge, I like to work on languages and trade skills wherever I can (at least with my wizard.) So far, Arjaizen is a master of every PC language save Iksar, and a master smith (175!), baker, fisherman, and swimmer. He's also making inroads in tailoring and brewing. It'd be a lot harder to do all that with most other races.

It can also give you a feeling of uniqueness. How many Erudite paladins do you see? Often I will log in and do a "/who all eru pal", and see that I'm the only one on the entire server. I've never seen more than four at a time, and can only recall meeting one face-to-face once.

I played an SK for bit also... It's nice to have a seemingly unlimited mana pool, believe me.

I think the biggest drawback is cultural armor. Verant screwed the Erudites over completely. 95 percent (more, actually) of Erudites are pure casters. So who gets the -tailored- Erudite cultural armor? Yup, melee classes. To add insult to injury, to get the silks needed, you need to kill an ultra-rare spawn. You must also get a lvl 49 enchanter to cast a spell for you, for which you need 4 rubies (150 plat each if I remember right,) as a component. So to make one -attempt- at a non-imbued or enchanted item, it costs you over 600 platinum, and many hours of camping. Why bother? Oh, and we have an "Erud Forge". Not a darned thing we can MAKE with it, but we've got an "Erud Forge".

Anyway, pretty much every race has it's plusses and minuses. The key thing is, what do YOU like to do? How do YOU want to play? Forget what people say about "playing xyz sucks above 50." Unless you play 5 hours a day, six days a week, and do it with one character, it's going to take you a LONG time to get there. In the meantime, you'll be having a blast.

I've got six different characters running from level 12 through level 24. I've been playing for about a year and a half, mostly twice a week, for a couple of hours at a shot. This is the first game that's ever held my interest past two months, and the end is nowhere in sight.

So, you want to be an Erudite? Well then , stick your nose up in the air, pick the lint off your robe (or rub that spot off your armor,) and show the uncultured, unwashed masses how to fight with style! :-)
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Former Wizard of Erudin,
Current Mage of Northshire Valley
Thank you on dealing with the posts
# Nov 14 2001 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I just want to thank you for dealing with the recent material that has...ahem...invaded one or two of the forums...I don't know what happened on the Ranger forum, but I know what happened here, and cheers for clearing it up! Furthermore, all I can say on Erudites is something that has been said billions of times over by others...Erudites have the highest (with DElves and I think Gnomes coming in second) base intelligence rating, and thus make very good necros, wizards, etc...
So, uhh. Yea!
I've never been an Erudite...yea....
Erudite Faction
# Nov 13 2001 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
Good/Neutral Erudites (start in Erudin) are KoS in the following cities: Grobb, Oggok, Cabilis. That's it.
Evil Erudites (Heretics from Paineel) are KoS in the following cities: Qeynos, Kaladim, Kelethin, Felwithe, Oggok, Grobb, Cabilis. I think that's it.
RE: Erudite Faction
# Sep 12 2002 at 2:47 PM Rating: Default
I also gots a Quellious worshippin chanter (erudite) on TZ - he's a complete SUCKA! should have picked agnostic but now that i think about it i don't remember if i CAN as an erudite chanter - can i??

At any rate, I made it into Neriak 3rd Qtr at lvl 18 to pick up some enchant metal spells (after ducking the PKers at the entrance and taking the secret passage through) The Foreign Quarter guards are NOT repeat NOT KOS in DE illusion of course - the 2nd and 3rd Qtrs however ARE (threatening) and will punk you out. I did make it to the library, and the merchants are friendly (I had DE illusion up) and quickly used Alliance then purchased the spells and gated.

Itien, I believe you are wrong about when and how you could do the wine quest which is for inner and outer guard faction only (not Indigo Brotherhood faction.) While I did NOT poke my head in and check on my con with Vorshar (sp) the Despised - for he is in the Library also, even if you ARE KOS to him you would have to mez him FIRST (after taking a hit or two) THEN collaborate and wait for mez to break to turn in the wine.

My guess is, he's *probably* dubious to non-DE races with DE illusion, since i have heard of many a lighty bard and rogue come in with the Mask of Deception and raise faction by doing the wine quest - so probably Alliance or Benevolence would work No Problem, to turn in wine for the quest. I suppose it may be different for Quellious worshippers, so could anyone please verify faction with Vorshar from a Quellious Erudite perspective? Thanks.

Ciggaweed
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RE: Erudite Faction
# Nov 15 2001 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Just a minor correction: At least if you follow Quellious, you will also be kill on sight in Neriak. I suspect the same is the case if you follow Prexus. Not sure about the wizards of Solusek Ro though.

As a Heretic I think you will be kill on sight in the guild areas of Erudin palace, but not in the main city (except for a few npc's on palace factions).
Conversely, Erudin Erudites (at least those following Prexus or Quellious) are kill on sight inside the city of Paineel itself.

On a side note, it's possible for anyone to get tolerated by most in Cabilis, though tedious (bone chip quest in Field of Bone).
Enchanters can become tolerated (without illusions/faction spells) in large parts of Oggok without too much trouble (stein of Moggok quest).
Non-agnostic enchanters can also become tolerated in most of the two outer zones of Neriak once they reach level 51 (Collaboration + illusion + red wine quest). It is possible to become tolerated by the guards of the Third Gate too, but requires ruining your faction with at least one "good" faction.
As far as I know there is no way for an Erudin Erudite to become tolerated in Grobb without ruining some other "good" faction.

One thing that is implicit in Gallius post, but worth pointing out: Heretics are NOT kill on sight in Freeport, except by some NPC's in north Freeport (the gnome in the jewelry building, for example), and very well liked by the underground there.

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RE: Erudite Faction
# Nov 20 2001 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Wizards worshipping Prexus are KOS in Neriak as well. Necros that worship CAzic Thule are not KOS anywhere in Neriak except by the ghouls near the entrance to the necro guild there. Just Invis vs. Undead to get past them. Piece of cake.

Arkken Bloodyskull-Warlock of Cazic Thule
Elurantec hellphyre-Sorcerer of Prexus

Errolisi Marr
Racist Posts
# Nov 13 2001 at 5:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry I didn't catch those posts earlier than I did. We have changed the forums so that you now have to register in order to post, and can no longer post anonymously. If I see other racist posts here, I will immediately ban the poster.
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KOS?
# Nov 13 2001 at 5:15 PM Rating: Decent
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hello im yiblaan lvl 12 wizard erudite and I want to know citys and zones that have good KOS and bad KOS
Wat about kos?
# Nov 05 2001 at 12:24 AM Rating: Default
I am a erudite necro, and i love the mana pool, and starting newbie area. IT ROCKS!!. I have had my firth run in into a different culture though. I went to quanos, BIG mystake. ran off the boat, saw a friend wnt to go say hi and " GUARDS..GUARDS............LOADING PLEASE WAIT...." my friend says need a res? sure, got ressed looted my body and asked whick way to go? I am in zone boundry to n quanos and south quanos well i go the wrong way... LOADING PLEASE WAIT... Ok now i know that I have officially worn out my welcome in quanos. but what about fp? if i get tp to commons and would like to go to the bank can i go to fp? Quanos is not a fun place. I have figured out how to get through to north quanos with out getting killed, however marching through the koronas' was not on my to do list, unless i have to.
RE: Wat about kos?
# Nov 11 2001 at 7:37 PM Rating: Default
If you are a Worshipper of CT you can go many places freely. Be sure to /con these guards, etc forst. But from my experience as an Erudite Necro:
All of Freeport is open to you. Just watch the occasional NPC. There's a Gnome in N Freeport that will come out of his shop and beat you down.
All of Neriak is open with the exception of the SK/Necro Guild. You MUST cast invis to undead before passing the Ghouls at the entrance. Once they aggro on you, the Guards will too.
Forget Qeynos, It's a city of Racists, much like the Moron that keeps posting all the derogetory BS on this page.
Ogguk and Grobb are off limits.
Haven't been to Ak Anon or the Elven city. I can't tell you anything of them but I would imagine you would be KOS there as the Guards in ButherBlock wanna kill me on sight.
Many merchants in the zones won't sell to you, but there are plentty of Erudite merchants inside the same buildings that will.

Good luck, I enjoy playing my Necro. He is lvl 32 now and has become my Primary Char.

Tymmy, Quellious
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