Shadows of LuclinIs the damage bonus of 42 a mistake, or is that the way the weapon is??
Claehbah
Grimling Bane Great Sword
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A weapon's Damage Bonus is a level affected stat on all weapons. Past lvl, I belive, 26, additional damage is added to every weapon. As I understand it works as follows ..
This char would attack with the weapon as 25 / 50. Then, after calculating their damage for the opponents lvl / ac / evasion skills ect, 42 damage is added and they hit their target for 10042 (or whatever)
So although the pic is accurate, this weapon won't have Dam bonus 42 for you .. at least not yet ..
This char would attack with the weapon as 25 / 50. Then, after calculating their damage for the opponents lvl / ac / evasion skills ect, 42 damage is added and they hit their target for 10042 (or whatever)
So although the pic is accurate, this weapon won't have Dam bonus 42 for you .. at least not yet ..
When damage bonus came out on weapons they made it perfectly clear it had nothing to do with the extra damage your weapons do as you go up in skill level. They also said it is a stat used to balance melee damage to make it more fair because the mobs at 51+ were getting harder to beat and they also said that this option only took effect at level 51. Why are all you people just totally ignoring this and coming out with all these wild rumors about what dmg bonus does? I'm completely sick of it, if you don't know exactly what it does please don't say anything.
Codeguru, get your facts straight, check out the world around you before you go saying everyone else is wrong... I'm lvl 40, and have had dmg bonuses on my weapons since lvl 20. Do research before you think you're the only one who knows what you're talking about.
2-Hand Damage Bonus is based on delay of weapon and your one-handed damage bonus. It has NOTHING to do with the damage of the weapon itself.
The damage bonus on my weapon has went up before lvl 51 so you are not correct.
15 posts
The swords you need to turn in to get this weapon, are they NO drop? Just wondering
Anyone want to explain why a sword is listed as a 2H blunt?
38 posts
maybe its just a REALLY REALLY dull sword lolol
lol...all we see is the 2 dimentional view...maybe it's like 6 inches thick
How does the bane damage work? I know it's only aganist grimlings, and I have 2 thoughts...aganist a grimling will this weapon figure regular max damage as...
2 x dmg + 1 + 4(the bane dmg)...OR? 2 x (dmg + 4) +1?? is the bane dmg added in before or after it doubles the dmg?? it's a matter of just 4 dmg...
2 x dmg + 1 + 4(the bane dmg)...OR? 2 x (dmg + 4) +1?? is the bane dmg added in before or after it doubles the dmg?? it's a matter of just 4 dmg...
14 posts
I could be wrong about this, but I believe as opposed to DMG Bonus, which gets added after the damage has been determined, Bane Damage is added before hand, which means this is essentially a 29/50 sword vs. Grimlings.
Scholar
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I'm almost 100% sure you're right. resistance bonuses are added to total, Bane bonuses are added to the weapons Damage value.
Here's a post I copied to a .txt file a long time ago. My apology to the writer for not remembering where it came from:
"Some weapons have an additional damage bonus that is inherent in the weapon, rather than based on the class/level of the wielder. If you see a weapon with a rating like "Fire DMG: 3" or "Poison DMG: 2" then that weapon has that much additional bonus damage added to each hit. However, because the bonus has a type, it can be resisted. Therefore, you can't count on it always affecting the mobs you're fighting.
Some weapons will be rated as having bane damage. This means that when wielded against that type of creature (e.g., "Bane DMG: Gnoll 5") that the damage VALUE of the weapon is increased by the associated bonus number. As an example:
There's a torch you can get from Katta Castellum that is damage 1, delay 24, Fire DMG:4 Bane DMG: Vampyre 9. This is a 1/24 weapon when used against most creatures, with a four point bonus of fire-based damage.
However, when used against "vampyres" (coterie and their ilk on Luclin) it becomes a 10/24 weapon with a four point bonus of fire-based damage which is pretty darn nice.
Slickriptide
half-elf bard, Terris-Thule
"
He sounded smart, right guys? ;)
Nubbinos
Perma-Level-Nine PK - Stealing twinked lvl 13's gear since poo was brown.
(Rallos baby)
Edited, Thu Mar 20 00:04:54 2003
Here's a post I copied to a .txt file a long time ago. My apology to the writer for not remembering where it came from:
"Some weapons have an additional damage bonus that is inherent in the weapon, rather than based on the class/level of the wielder. If you see a weapon with a rating like "Fire DMG: 3" or "Poison DMG: 2" then that weapon has that much additional bonus damage added to each hit. However, because the bonus has a type, it can be resisted. Therefore, you can't count on it always affecting the mobs you're fighting.
Some weapons will be rated as having bane damage. This means that when wielded against that type of creature (e.g., "Bane DMG: Gnoll 5") that the damage VALUE of the weapon is increased by the associated bonus number. As an example:
There's a torch you can get from Katta Castellum that is damage 1, delay 24, Fire DMG:4 Bane DMG: Vampyre 9. This is a 1/24 weapon when used against most creatures, with a four point bonus of fire-based damage.
However, when used against "vampyres" (coterie and their ilk on Luclin) it becomes a 10/24 weapon with a four point bonus of fire-based damage which is pretty darn nice.
Slickriptide
half-elf bard, Terris-Thule
"
He sounded smart, right guys? ;)
Nubbinos
Perma-Level-Nine PK - Stealing twinked lvl 13's gear since poo was brown.
(Rallos baby)
Edited, Thu Mar 20 00:04:54 2003
3 posts
could someone plz tell me where to find weapon of grunt that is needed for this quest.
Could be wrong here, goin from memory, but same stats as EDGE OF CABILIS, Isnt it?
except for the Bane damage,yes it is
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I spoke with a GM, thinkin that it was an oversight. I was informed that there was no oversight, it's supposed to be 2hb. I was also informed that many of the SoL weapons were meant to be unconventional.
I'm sure they'll fix/nerf/whatever it.
hehehe, dull sword must be either that or a BIG programming ***** up
while this is probably an error, big swords like this in history were actually used to crush opponents, not slash them. =) just a little historical note.
35 posts
Quite true, especially from horseback, where the speed of the mount negated to some extent the need to swing thse monsters. Honestly, most European weapons weren't all that sharp. Stabbing or bludgeoning? Yes ....slashing? no.
2 posts
It's hard to classify European weapons as mostly this or mostly that. There were so many.
While it is true that many "swords" of the Dark and Middle Ages were designed with a "chisel edge" with some sharp points in order to cut through chain, chain/plate, or plate armors, they did evolve in the later periods into fine edged and slashing weapons. The classic early broadsword, hand and a half sword, two hand swords, and "field swords" were chisel edged and optionally equiped with a point. This was for good reason. A finely made japanese sword designed for slashing would have been next to useless against an oponent in Plate, chain/plate, or even the better chain mails. The chisel edge allowed these swords to cut through armor and at the very least stand up to repeated impact on steel. There were exceptions. The Falchion for example was an an example of a fine slashing and optionally stabbing weapon.
Swords designed for use off the battle field were more often sharp and nearly always pointed.
Later when armor began to lose favor as a result of primative firearms, the broadsword evolved into a very fine slashing and stabbing weapon, and of course the rapier and saber came into their own as well.
While it is true that many "swords" of the Dark and Middle Ages were designed with a "chisel edge" with some sharp points in order to cut through chain, chain/plate, or plate armors, they did evolve in the later periods into fine edged and slashing weapons. The classic early broadsword, hand and a half sword, two hand swords, and "field swords" were chisel edged and optionally equiped with a point. This was for good reason. A finely made japanese sword designed for slashing would have been next to useless against an oponent in Plate, chain/plate, or even the better chain mails. The chisel edge allowed these swords to cut through armor and at the very least stand up to repeated impact on steel. There were exceptions. The Falchion for example was an an example of a fine slashing and optionally stabbing weapon.
Swords designed for use off the battle field were more often sharp and nearly always pointed.
Later when armor began to lose favor as a result of primative firearms, the broadsword evolved into a very fine slashing and stabbing weapon, and of course the rapier and saber came into their own as well.
Japanese swords being of the quality they were, even most chains could be cut assunder with their edges.
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12 posts
Anyone know how they tested a Japaneese Samuri Sword, to see if it was sharp enough?
If not here is how...
They took 10 prisoners usally dead ones (not always though) and stacked them on top of each other... like a stack of cards.. and then got a normal warrior and if it cut through the neck of everyone of them in one hack it was sharp enough if not back to the sharpening wheel.
Basically they were very sharp.
If not here is how...
They took 10 prisoners usally dead ones (not always though) and stacked them on top of each other... like a stack of cards.. and then got a normal warrior and if it cut through the neck of everyone of them in one hack it was sharp enough if not back to the sharpening wheel.
Basically they were very sharp.
That is inaccurate. While it's true blades were tested on humans at one time, whomever told you stack-of-ten-bodies story has watched too many movies. 
Additionally, using a "sharpening wheel" on nihonto would probably damage it beyond repair.
I would suggest further reading here: http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/nihonto.htm
Edited, Sat Feb 1 17:10:58 2003
Additionally, using a "sharpening wheel" on nihonto would probably damage it beyond repair. I would suggest further reading here: http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/nihonto.htm
Edited, Sat Feb 1 17:10:58 2003
While that is true to an extent, they were still large pointy sharp things, and were used to stab as well I believe.
6 posts
If I remember correctly the purpose of making a great sword was to allow a footman to unhorse a mounted knight. To this end they were made quite heavy and very long...some being as long as 6 feet or more.
IF I remember correctly.
Xylam Zekk
44Warrior of Rallos Zek
The Tribunal Server
IF I remember correctly.
Xylam Zekk
44Warrior of Rallos Zek
The Tribunal Server
This is correct. The way this was achieved was removing a leg from his mount.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Dec 28 2001 at 1:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sure the Europeon weapons were like that, but this isn't Europe is it? NO! It's Norrath! I land ruled by overpaid GM's who do whatever they want!!!! Maybe a Luclin programmer thought it would be funny to see a person with max 2hs try using this weapon without realizing it was 2hb. Think about it, since when did Norrathians now about Europe?
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