Gets you more than halfway to the 15 worn Mana regen cap on gear in era. Must have bard item for Planes of Power/LDoN. Helps out huge with Denon's Dirge & Fading Memories. https://youtu.be/NIs5HSC-83c
fcoty is absolutely correct, as how the item's worn effect used to work. However, since around 2004, iirc, Sony made all the parts f the effect on the item, other than the Ultravision, so there is no spell stacking issues with this item now, only worn caps issues.
Mana Regen caps at 15 without AA extensions. HP Regen caps at 35 to level 65, then +2 to Cap for each level above 65, without AA extensions. DS caps at 35 without AA extensions (Are there AA DS extensions, I forget atm, but don't remember any off-hand). Attack caps at 250 without AA extensions.
Back in my day, the game didn't spell everything out for you. We didn't have any of this "attack +20" and "mana regen" nonsense. Just good ol' vague flavor text that rolled a bunch of effects up into one description, and Flowing Thought I, II, III, IV, and V. Then you whippersnappers came along and went and changed it all. My flavor text became a generic focus effect, and the half dozen little prizes it contained became just more numbers on the page.
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Seriously, though, that about sums it up. A lot of epics, for example, have pictures on here that show an effect as it was at creation, and then the stats of the item Alla has differ substantially. The differences are ultimately that a special worn effect became a lot less special, and 4/5 of what it used to do is just a number on the item description now.
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Nowdays, that is part of the appeal of the talisman . . . for those who remember it even exists . . . not everyone and their uncle is going to have it.
Getting to VT requires commitment.
Getting to Aten requires commitment; the talisman isn't a gimme like the Blessed Seeker is.
For the period, it was one of those amazing end-game trophies to have.
Yeah, the effect is really badass and if you can get this at 60 you'll be hard pressed to find anything better, but once you're fully OoW geared you'll probably already have max FT and you can probably find something with better stats/mana/hp/resists.
Still, holy crap that's nice.
Ultravision != super uber anymore sadly. They should change that effect. Most people get it from at least ONE focus effect or self buff or something later on anyways.
Effect was changed to Ultravision only, because mana regen, hp regen, attack buff, and DS are now stats and are listed as such on the item. The item hasn't changed. /conspiracy off
Well it was nerfed sorta. Before when there was FT instead of mana regen on items it was possible to have ft 15 + 8 mana regen from talisman. Now Talisman counts twords mana regen cap of 15 so **** on SoE.
That is untrue. They didn't nerf it. Soe just changed the way to describe the effect. The mana-regeneffect was always counted towards mana-regen cap of 15. You have never been able to have more regen then 15 mana/Tick on worn items.
Actually when flowing thought was first implemented it didn't stack with equal strength of FT. I.e FT II + FT II = FT II, but FT I + FT II = FT III.
This was changed within just a couple of weeks if I remember right because it's just plane crazy!
I can't remember if there was a FT 15 max during that time, though i vaguelly remember hearing FT only went up to version 5 (and 1+2+3+4+5 = 15). Though I just can't remember, sorry.
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Posted:Oct 04 2004 at 10:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Untill now. FT cap at 20.
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Posted:Apr 02 2004 at 2:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) phew, had me goin for a minute. make sure you always check the date of a post, it might be on april fools.
#KANDIMANN,
Posted:Apr 16 2004 at 12:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Heyyyy I am now the proud owner of this item.
Correct me if I am wrong, but look up Blessing of Vah Kerrath and you will find a cast time and duration. Therefore it is a spell and all spells will stack with FT15. Now does it stack with VoQ ect. that is another question. Got my VT key and looking forward to winning this.
Despite Blessing of Vah Kerrath can be cast, this item got it as worn effect, it's permanent. Regarding the stack issue, as far i know, all worn effects do stack with casted buffs and are supposed to stack with every other worn effect. Most worn effect can also be casted, also there's often differences between casted and worn version of the same buff. A good example is Fungal regrowth : the fungus covered staff is a clicky and the buff got a slow part that the worn effect on fungus tunic doesn't got.
The "it doesn't need one" is the designers' perspective, not the players'. Seriously, there is a thread on the Sony message boards about this and - that's what they said.
Thanks Sarnath. I hunted around and found the official post, here it is if anyone cares to read it. Can't say as I agree, but doubt they will change it now if they haven't already.
Someone mentioned that this item also serves as a VT Key. Is this true. In other words, if someone gets this item, they no loner need the peice off the shissar wraiths?
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Posted:Oct 12 2003 at 4:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What's the point of this item if 15 is the max item mana regen you can get? Seems kind of crap melee can regen as many hps as they want but we've been stuck at 15 manaregen since velious. It should have been upped to 25 at least by now.
[quote]What's the point of this item if 15 is the max item mana regen you can get?...
Whats the point? The point is this item is FT8! Dude, if you're telling me that you wouldn't like to have more than half of your flowing thought concerns taken care of with one neck item you're in too deep. All the other effects this item gives you are just more candy for the taking. If you're capped, don't worry about this item. Its that simple. If you have this item you more than likely have PoT9, SD, VoQ, FT15, AA's, and a mod rod at least half the time you're playing. I'm sitting at FT4 atm, and I think this is a great item. Just my 2cp
Have either of you even seen the other stats? This neck, even minus the FT, is probably the best pre-time neck in the game even today. 100 total freeking resists on one item is insane. Especialy a neck slot which are normally not that impressive.
No, he's right. Unless there was a stealth nerf in the past month or two that I'm not aware of then FT and mana regen stack up to the maximum amount. I forget the amount of the top of my head since I haven't been concerned about it in a couple of months (I don't play my mage anymore), but they do stack. That's the reason for all of the items you see coming out of tier 4 and 5 that have effects with mana regen on them, but aren't aren't in the flowing thought category.
If I'm wrong then correct me, but I'd like to see some sort of parsing to prove to me that I'm wrong. At least link me to a thread on a message board where the testing's been done. FT and mana regen have stacked for a long, long time.
And by the way, you're quote from the fan faire was a while back. Back around the time PoP came out there were some changes to flowing thought, several of them, before Sony finally settled on a system that they liked. Like I said, I'm not saying it hasn't been changed again. I would just like to see the testing to prove it.
FT and other forms of mana regen stack - but only up to a maximum of 15 mana/tick from worn mana regen. Doesn't matter if all 15 points are from FT, or from some effect with another name, such as Blessing of Vah Kerrath. BVK *is* FT8.
Don't get hung up on names - mana regen doesn't have to be called FT to count towards the worn FT cap, and HP regen doesn't have to be called Regeneration to count towards the HP worn regen cap.
Here is a quicky for the quest to answer some questions that may come up. I know I had some. After you get the Essence from AHR, you take it to the skelly in UP guarded by the wolfs. My faction was Amiably to them when I did this. I just turned it in and go the neck. No collection of skulls or what have you was required. Just to be safe, make sure when you con him to make sure he cons amiable. If you need faction, kill in ME for faction. Good hunting
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I count myself EXTREMELY FORTUNATE that OBSIDIAN COVEN allowed me this PRECIOUS item. I've gone over the quest and the Medallion is the same as the VT key, so obviously, all that is needed is the faction and do the turn in of the Soul Essence to Val Kerrath. Thank you Obsidian Coven for this awesome treasure.
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i also just got this item...but for the damage shield when i get hit...i dont see anything like soandso mob takes 8 points of damage..unless like it says it adds to like a damage shield that another person casts on you..but i just got it so just learning about it... anyways super duper nice item..cya at the fan faires
I dont think its a damage shield in and of itself. I think it increases a existing damage shield by 8. So, get a DS on you and compare with and without wearing it and Im certain you will see a difference.
That is my experience as well. I get no damage shield when only wearing the talisman, but if I cast Feedback on myself as well (normally an 11 point damage shield) I will have a 19 point damage shield (or 36 if I also become a fire elemental).
i just got this the other night,and to me this is the best neck piece in EQ hands down UBAH. GL on trying to get this if u even get a chance to get in VT this is definately the one neck piece u want
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Posted:May 29 2003 at 12:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I got lucky on my monk one day with my guild on me 42 monk :) Really lucky...well the effect's and stats are great for soloers...... well gotta go... Also got lucky on me robe of whistling fists.... that same week)
I am probably not the only person to spend idle moments scouring Allakhazam and Magelo for the ultimate items that would grace an ultimate charcter (in my case a paladin). Well I have done my best to find the best items for a paladin. He wears a full set of Trydan's armour and rejoices at wearing amongst other things this neck piece.
What I find astonishing, is that the hp and mana regen effect of this necklace is far superior to any other regen effect I have found on any other item wearable by a paladin. 8hp and 8mana regen per tick (worn effect)!!! If there is a better effect I have yet to come across it.
The biggest flaw in my thinking must be that I am currently a guild-less, level 38 paladin who solos quite a bit and who enjoys grouping but who has yet to experience anything approaching the "end of the game". Maybe one reason I am so impressed with the regen on this item is because I love soloing. Probably you will tell me that if I was uber enough to get this item I would not be soloing at all but would be neck-deep in guild activities almost all of which would be complex raids quite beyond my imagination.
Ah well, based on my current level of (in)experience, I would vote for this item being in my top 5 uber-est items for a paladin.
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Posted:Sep 12 2003 at 5:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I think you're full of crap. Show me the magelo account that has this listed for a 38 Paladin. It's no drop....
RE: One of the best items (armour) in the game for a Hybrid
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Posted:Apr 26 2003 at 11:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) People Wake the heck up..I don't know what you are smoking but this item is way outdated. I have friend who destroyed this, because of new PoP loot, have u seen some of the stuff? This Talisman is as good as toilet paper, when you are constipated P
Pardon me, but I think you need to re-evaluate a few things.
Show me a neck item, with any focus effect, that has +20 or better to all resists, 15 or better to all stats, 125 or better raw hp and mana. Please, show me one. While PoTime has not been farmed or explored yet with any detail, I have yet to see a single neck item that has this combination of solid stats. Now then, add to this 8 mana and 8 hp per tick regen, 20 attack (for you melee who may get this), and a throw in of 8 pts of ds and ultravsion, you have a neck item that you may not remove fore a long time coming.
Additionally, you mention getting improved damage items, mana preservation items, and the like instead of this... I want to ask you why? The rarity of the opportunity to get the essence for the neck makes it 100% worthwile spending points on (or whichever system you use). Imporved damage items, mana preservation items can be found from a pleathora of mobs. In truth, your friendly neighborhood mage can summon a baby version. Now then, if you have the choice of receieving this or the mask of secrets, lets say, I may choose the mask (depending on my needs).
It is true the Elemental Planes drops are very nice. Items with 150 and even higher raw mana make me drool. However, the Elemental Planes have not made VT items obsolete by any means.
Thats about the only item I see beating Vah's or possible https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=21726" rel="external nofollow" title="https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=21726">Necklace of Eternal Visions depending on class. (Both plane of time items)
Other than That I agree with the sentiment of your post, VT gear still blows everything outside of Elementals out of the water, and situationally can be better than some plane of time gear. However with the recent addition of LDoN and augments there may end up being some changes to whats top end.
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Posted:Apr 30 2003 at 11:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dude, You are way off Base....I'm just trying to educate the uneducated. There is no reason to get this item, except for bragging rites. If I'm going to make this statement on the Talisman, I need to give reasons, otherwise I'd look like a fool. Fool.
Gordong, I don't understand how you can say this necklace is crap. Now admittedly, like you said, if I had to choose between this and mana preservation, improved damage, and spell haste, well obviously I'd choose the three focus effects. That's a heck of a lot of extra damage.
But you say that you do 100k+ damage to a single raid mob. That means that you're spending well over your initial tank of 6k mana. And it's a fact that any caster can spend mana a heck of a lot faster than 50/tick. Which means that the limiting factor is your mana regen. If your mana regen was already 50/tick, then adding another 8/tick should increase your damage output by about 16 percent. Which is another 16k+ damage for that fight, just because of this amulet.
So while the amulet may be overpriced in terms of DKP for your guild, it's certainly not useless. I can only imagine replacing this with a focus effect that has a better than 16 percent effect (more or less depending on what your mana regen already is), and even then only if I couldn't get that focus effect anywhere else. And I certainly can't imagine destroying this.
guys....gordong is a troll. i'll bet any of the follwing are true:
he's a 12 year old kid he's never seen the inside of VT, and if he has... see the troll part. noone with 1/2937456397th of a brain can rationally argue this is crap.