Riddle No 1.

"I was struck with iron at birth, and again and again throughout life."
Indicates it could be anything from a weapon to armor or a shield (Because those of you who say it can't be a shield a metal shield is beaten into form)
"I have seen many battles and witnessed terrible strife."
Again this further indicates that it is armor or shield or a weapon
"Even when victorious, I'll emerge battered and thrashed."
But this, This Is one of the main lines, Battered and Thrashed = Shield Most Likely, Because what do you want to get battered and thrashed, Your Shield, Not your breastplate, or Helm, Your Shield.
"For every time I'm wounded, another is saved from the pyre ash."
I think this Indicates a damage shield, or the first "Procing" shield, Maybe it heals the group when something hits you, Just a thought.
Riddle No. 2

"What has outlived the Gods but has never been seen, And the more there is of it, the less there will be?"
I agree with most with Time or Death

So this Could possibly mean

Shield of Time/Death,
AC=?
Stats=?
DS (Possibly)

Effect: Heal all (hehe)

If this dupes sorry i had posted annon earlier. But the answer could be life. As everything grows older it nears death and its life shortens.

The new cleric epic 2.0 is a sheild here is the lin to all the epics for all classes.

http://www.wickedages.com/epics.jpg

After reviewing the answers thus far, I beleive that those that chose the Shield for #1 are correct.

But those that chose "Nothing", may not be correct.

I would like to say it is "Death".

The more Death that there is, the less Death there can be. As for the part of the Gods, who outlives the Gods? Death.

Just my 2 cp worth.

Edited, Tue Aug 31 08:29:57 2004

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"What has outlived the Gods but has never been seen, And the more there is of it, the less there will be?"

The past. Time passes and is gone, but the past is forevermore.

and shield for #1

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The more there is of it, the less there will be? I would say the answer to this is Faith. The more of the faithful there are the less unbelievers there can be. Note the line does not say "The more there is of it, the less of it there will be." It could be a piece of armor but I tend to believe the item will be a shield. A shield is an active defender. Armor is passive.

Ok, I just wanted to correct al of you guys on something with yuor posts and theories. On riddle #2 you keep says the more ther eis, the less there is, but the riddle ACTUALLY Says "The More there is of it, the less there will be." its not the mroe ther eis, the less there is, its the more there is, the less that there WILL be, plz read carefully before making statements in these riddles.

For riddle number one, I will agree with the theory of the shield. Though it could be armor of any sort, I would say that the shield is usually not considered a piece of armor as much as it is dignified as its own class and known for stopping blows before they even reach the armor which itself is known for "chinks" and weaknesses.

Answer #2: Death

For the second riddle I disagree with both theories of Time and Faith. Faith does not make sense with the second part of the riddle. It just is not a definitive answer in all instances. Now anytime I see something in a riddle that says, "The more there is of it, the less there will be" denotes to me a reverse negative such as in the riddle..

"What is greater than God,
More evil than The Devil,
The rich need it,
The poor have it,
And if you eat it you will die?"

The answer to which is of course, nothing. It is the only definitive answer to each line, yet it is nothing at all.

Taking time into the second riddle... The more time there is, the less time there is? That makes no sense at all.

Same with faith; The more faith there is, the less faith there is? No, that is obviously not correct either.

The more nothing there is, the less nothing there is? No, that doesn't make sense.

I say that the answer is death. The more death there is, the less death there can be.

Clerics are directly involved with death. I think this riddle has something to do with the effect of the shield. I doubt it will be a resurrection from death because we already have the sprinkler. I doubt that it will have to do with res effects because that is already covered by the cleric AAs. However, death doesn't necesarily mean killing or the active death of someone. The cleric's arch enemy is of course the undead. Perhaps an AE fear/DD/DoT vs. undead or something of the like. It's a pretty vague riddle, but there is the only logical answer that I can come up with.

Riddle #2 Time

For Riddle #1... going against what the others have said... maybe number 1 is a warrior or something like that? Could be metaphorical.. "Struck with iron at Birth" meaning "Struck with the seed of battle." I don't know

Edited, Sun Aug 29 00:51:35 2004

I think number 1 would be a hammer or a weapon of some sort.. you could look at this in the since of, i kill to save the lives of others, and in that way it could be a weapon by saying everytime i'm wounded another is saved from the pyre ash.
Number 2 i think is either Time or Nothing, nothing makes alot of since if you insert it in the text.. but time makes more since as to the answer.