Lost Dungeons of Norrath NDA Lifted

Here's the post from the official site: "As of September 4th, the Non-Disclosure Agreement for the Lost Dungeons of Norrath Beta is no longer in effect, except that a beta participant's confidentiality obligation shall continue with respect to information concerning the beta program and all feedback and comments (whether from the participant, any other participant or from SOE employees)." So I'll open this thread up for the LDoN beta participants to give their impressions of the expansion and also answer any questions the rest may have. Please post away.

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Spells
# Sep 09 2003 at 12:53 PM Rating: Default
Anyone know the locations of the spells? also is it true that there are three types of traps so like a wiz can only open magic type traps??
RE: Spells
# Sep 09 2003 at 1:01 PM Rating: Default
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Spells are at the wayfarer camps. You can't buy them with plat though ;)
RE: Spells
# Sep 09 2003 at 1:03 PM Rating: Default
so your saying me <a wiz> can not get the spells until i get enough adv points to open,unlock,detect traps?
RE: Spells
# Sep 13 2003 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
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The spells to detect trap, disable trap, and unlock chest all cost 25 adv points. They are not theme restriced so adv points from any theme will work.
RE: Spells
# Sep 09 2003 at 1:22 PM Rating: Default
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As far as I know, you have to work yourself up to get the spells. Yes, that means going into dungeons without them for a while. Not the end of the world, but they are helpful when you do get them.
RE: Spells
# Sep 09 2003 at 1:30 PM Rating: Default
Meaning rogues/bards will be in particularly high demand the first couple weeks.
RE: Spells
# Sep 09 2003 at 1:24 PM Rating: Default
ok, thx for fast responce.
Use Augmentation Wisely
# Sep 09 2003 at 11:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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** Use Augmentations Wisely **

If I'm understanding the implications of the Patch Message Section titled "Use Augmentations Wisely" then an Augmentation Item of Type 1 can be applied to any slot of any Type. Also if the item being augmented has a slot of Type 5 then an Augmentation Item of Type 1, 2, 3, or 4 can be applied to that object. I'm I correct in saying this?
RE: Use Augmentation Wisely
# Sep 09 2003 at 12:28 PM Rating: Default
I believe the point of the message was this. You have Sword of Whoop Butt. The sword has 3 slots in it. Slot 1 is is X type and you have an augmentation of type X, so you use it and fill slot 1. Now slot 2 is type Y and slot 3 is type Z. You have an augmentation that will fit in any type slot, be it Y or Z, you also have an augmentation that is type Y only. If you use your any type augment first it will automatically take slot 2 of type Y. Now you are left with slot 3 of type Z but you only have a type Y augmentation and can't use it. They are warning you about using the any type augmentations in the correct order so as not to mess yourself up and wind up with an augmentation you can't use because your any type augmentation took the slot for another.

That's what I think it means anyway. Not sure I made that any clearer though, LOL.

Edited, Tue Sep 9 13:18:25 2003
RE: Use Augmentation Wisely
# Sep 09 2003 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Fine. But what I'm asking is the general question of how the augmentation system works. Can you apply augmentation items of type 1, 2, 3, or 4 to an augmentation slot of type 5?
RE: Use Augmentation Wisely
# Sep 10 2003 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
From my understanding the answer is no (please correct me if I'm wrong here, won't be the first time). Only Type 1 Augments go in Type 1 slots, Type 2 in Type 2 slots, etc. There are augments that can go in any Type slot, but I don't believe a Type 1, 2, 3, or 4 can fit in a Type 5 slot. I think this is going to be really confusing for alot of people with all the Inventory Slots, Item Slots, and Type Slots for Type Augmentations.
Hooskerdo
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:55 AM Rating: Default
Yay so i have a reason to make a rogue other than to see Shanky has Backstabbed a Burynai excavator

also that sux that i get "shafted" as it were in LDoN o well....but if i could fit in a dungeon i would be sad =)

Hooskerdo
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RE: Hooskerdo
# Sep 09 2003 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
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As a warrior, shafting things is your job! lol, during beta the warriors did just fine, in my opinion, and my RL wife plays one and she is not at all concerned about it. All those new aug slots look very interesting for upgrade possibilities.
RE: Hooskerdo
# Sep 09 2003 at 11:22 AM Rating: Default
Well i like being a warrior i am just going off what other people are saying and that is how monks and warriors are getting shafted with LdoN
RE: Hooskerdo
# Sep 09 2003 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Every 4 year old seems to think they get shafted over the slightest thing. Its like they have to have a negative opinion otherwise they have no value. Thats why I am careful about what I believe; way too many emotional and uninformed opinions out there.

I mean lets face it, casters think they didn't get enough new spells. Druids think they won't be needed. Monks are ready to quit the game again. Warriors are quitting if the monks are. The rogues are ******* pissed at everyone else, since they now may be able to detect or disarm some traps. Bards got shafted because their skills are still behind rogues ...

Bunch of crap. LDoN is what it is, a set of new dungeons with new loot drops. No new classes, no new levels added, and they are trying to keep the game in balance while adding all the new slots and augments.

Go play the game, see if you like it. Lost of new things to see and learn and explore.

If you don't like something, post a constructive feedback to SOE.

Edited, Tue Sep 9 12:36:23 2003
RE: Hooskerdo
# Sep 09 2003 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
LOL, druids are right
RE: Hooskerdo
# Sep 09 2003 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
Haha, well I @#$# hate looking for traps, so I for one am not pissed about anything =)

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augmentation?
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:50 AM Rating: Default
So what does this augmentation thing do?
RE: augmentation?
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:52 AM Rating: Default
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It augments ;)

Seriously. Which one are you talking about? Augments themselves upgrade any piece of gear in the game (even pre-LDoN items). Each has a slot it fits into, although some can be put into any slot. Each augment drops in an LDoN dungeon or can be bought using LDoN points; and each augment has additional stats that you use to upgrade and customize your gear.

Edited, Tue Sep 9 11:01:31 2003
Account - Options Screen
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
Heyas

Well, the 'Servers are Congested'; give them a Sudaphed already.

I do get as far as the Account - Options screen, which I think is the coolest of the screens we've seen so far. Only the one for Kunark was as cool, but Firiona in bondage is just plain cool anyway.

One thing, the DE caster reminds me of my first wife, the hair and especially the eyes. <sigh> Not the rest, sad to say.
RE: Account - Options Screen
# Sep 09 2003 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't bother playing for at least 4 more hours. They said noon PDT (-7 hours UTC) -- its a major patch so it may take longer.

Its 8am PDT now, 4 more hours at least. Plus, assume there will a be a few reboots today; all those things are normal on a major upgrade day.
Dang Logon Server
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
Got a new error when trying to logon. 0023 Logon/registraion server congested. I want to play!!!!
RE: Dang Logon Server
# Sep 09 2003 at 11:44 AM Rating: Default
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The servers are showing as Up right now, but they are not yet available.

Absor posted on the Sony site, to clear things up.

Try here http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/everquest/Forum4/HTML/048448.html
RE: Dang Logon Server
# Sep 09 2003 at 2:52 PM Rating: Default
Thanks for that little link....through that I found out when they went down, when they are expected to be up, great advice, and when would be a smart time to try logging...(LOL..in a couple o' weeks..)
RE: Dang Logon Server
# Sep 09 2003 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
The servers are all showing up as congested because there be 100,000 people who either can't read or can't tell time, and are sitting at their computer pressing the EQ button all day, only to see that all the servers are congested by all the other people who can't read or tell time.

lol.
RE: Dang Logon Server
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:58 AM Rating: Default
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If the servers are up, they are very early. Shouldn't be up for AT LEAST 4 more hours.

12 noon, pacific daylight time, 3pm eastern.
Faction
# Sep 09 2003 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Are there faction issues with the new zones. For example, would killing a Froglok new Guk cause you to be KOS in old Guk?
RE: Faction
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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No, didn't see any faction changes while hunting in LDoN, other than the ones related directly to LDoN.
hmmm
# Sep 09 2003 at 6:29 AM Rating: Default
that patch was pretty small hehe im glad they did all the pre-patching, took less than 5 mins lol i got up early expecting a 2 hour patch =P oh well my first adventure is going to be in takish`hiz come join me on morell thule as soon as servers come up =) *celebrates*
No Drop?
# Sep 09 2003 at 5:41 AM Rating: Default
Are there augments that make things no drop? This would be very interesting for Rallos players..
RE: No Drop?
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
GOOD QUESTION,, IS IT POSSIBLE I COULD TAKE MY 50 RANGER TO ONE OF THE DUNGEONS AND THEN ADD THE AUGMENTS TO ARMOR FOR A LOWER LVL CHAR ? OR WILL THE ITEMS BECOME NO DROP AFTER THE AUGMENT?
THE EXAMPLE ON THE EQLIVE SITE DOESNT SHOW IT AS NO DROP AFTER COMBINING
RE: No Drop?
# Sep 09 2003 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, you will have to wait and see. During beta, I do believe all the augments made the item they went into no-drop. But, SOE did say that not all will work that way. Also, some augments can go into any slot type. So - there is a ton of new flexibility, and we just have to see what and how things work out over the next few days.

Heck, if the beta testers knew everything, it would be a very, very dull release!
corpses
# Sep 09 2003 at 1:14 AM Rating: Default
i die in Ldon, wheres my corpse go?
RE: corpses
# Sep 09 2003 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good
If you die your coprse will be in the dungeon. Either run back or get rezzed by a party member. If you die and do not go back to get your party and the adventure is over, your body is then placed outside the dungeon zone in.
leaving a started dungeon
# Sep 09 2003 at 12:52 AM Rating: Good
If a Rl situation occurs that needs your attention can you leave the dungion durring the encounter without a problem other than shorthanding your group?
RE: leaving a started dungeon
# Sep 09 2003 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes, you can come and go from your dungeon just like a normal one.
leaving a started dungeon
# Sep 09 2003 at 12:52 AM Rating: Default
If a Rl situation occurs that needs your attention can you leave the dungion durring the encounter without a problem other than shorthanding your group?
LDON/War/Monk
# Sep 08 2003 at 9:40 PM Rating: Default
Quote: monks suck in LDoN. Its basically impossible to split, and rogues are more dps/more utility in ldon. Welcome to the role of 6th spot filler!
Yes, warriors/monks will benefit from this expansion (gear wise, not group wise,) but everyone else will benefit more.
Warriors will fall behind Sks and Pals for groups. Why? LDoN is time critical, SKs and pallies can let the rest of the group do more dps faster.
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too bad =( monks and warriors are going to be pissed, but it makes total sense, and i can see why a wiz or a necro would be picked over a warrior or a monk, first off a necro can FD and has great DPS so there goes the monks advantage right there,
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updates/upgrades, for well over a year now. It
appears that with months to come up with a fair
and equitable expansion, that would cover all the Classes, SOE has once again failed in their task.
I'm sure that LDON will be a great experience for
most Classes .....
Ask SOE about Class Balance for the War/Monk and
the answer is... we're thinking about it.
RE: LDON/War/Monk
# Sep 09 2003 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
did you leave out some info on my quote?
ahh yes here is the whole thing

[QUOTE MYSELF EARLIER]
too bad =( monks and warriors are going to be pissed, but it makes total sense, and i can see why a wiz or a necro would be picked over a warrior or a monk, first off a necro can FD and has great DPS so there goes the monks advantage right there, ( and i know you said mobs are not FD pullable im just talking ) wizzys rarely have to tank and when they do they die so thats no good but the incredible amount of damage they get to play with at lvl 51+ is just great =) draught of fire is an excellent DPS spell,[END QUOTE]


Draught of fire is a wizzys first very mana efficient damage spell =) for half the mana of ice comet and half the cast time you can do just over half the damage and cast it twice before you can cast one ice comet =) i usually do around 800 damage with it and only 1300 with ice comet so.....anyway it really sucks that warriors and monks get the shaft yet again but honestly what more can you give a pure melee? you cant update spells cuz they dont have any and they kinda tried with all the diciplines....i suppose they could go with war/mnk clicky items hehe oh wait they did that too...(thinks a moment....did monks get kunark armor? or was that only plate classes? ive never played a monk past 25 so i dont know) anyway they have a hard time balancing classes but hey im sure all the great gear coming out of there will be fine and im also sure that warriors will be able to get groups too, its just that a pally or sk will take precedence....oh well, see ya this afternoon on LDoN =) happy adventuring

Edited, Tue Sep 9 07:37:39 2003
couple quick questions
# Sep 08 2003 at 7:56 PM Rating: Default
I looked through al of the posts and didn't see an answer for any of these so ill ask...
Do you have to purchase (with points) all the items you want to gain from LDoN or do the mobs drop any items on the way?
Is there a boss mob at the end of each adventure, by that i mean is there any thing driving you to get to the end of the dungeon?
Thats the best i can think of right now, thanks for your reply.
RE: couple quick questions
# Sep 08 2003 at 8:26 PM Rating: Excellent
mobs drop loot. there are minibosses in most levels, and bosses in assasinate missions.
interesting thought
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:43 PM Rating: Excellent
can you sell items back to the wayfarer merchants for points? obviously for less than you paid but is it possible? kinda like the horse return quest or something?
RE: interesting thought
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
no. not currently anyway
RE: interesting thought
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you =) have i told you latley that i love you?
solo
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:42 PM Rating: Default
so no soloingt at all in it
ONE FINAL QUESTION
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent
one final question, where are the camps located so i can park my wizzy near there for tomorrows patch =) my playing time is limited so this will help me a ton =)

EDIT -- and may i ask an opinion too? which one should i go to if im a 53 wizzy ? is there one that is more fun than the others? i am SO EXCITED hehe im sure they are all fun but im just asking =)

thank you all who posted useful info and i will see you tomorrow if the servers ever come back up hehe =)

Edited, Mon Sep 8 19:43:20 2003
RE: ONE FINAL QUESTION
# Sep 08 2003 at 7:11 PM Rating: Excellent
everfrost innothule south ro ec bbm. all are fun.
RE: ONE FINAL QUESTION
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:59 PM Rating: Excellent
Good question. i also would like to know =)
Druids
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
A couple of questions:

1. What kind of spells do Druids get?

2. What if an item has spell haste 2, but I would like it to have spell haste 4? Could I use an augment to upgrade an effect?
RE: Druids
# Sep 08 2003 at 7:27 PM Rating: Excellent
I encountered a spell haste 1 aug earlier... A spell haste 4 aug, if it exists would take a lot of adventure points to buy.
HASTE AUG
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
costs 30 pts at a merchant, head waist only. It augments slot 3, I haven't found a slot three item yet but I havent seen all the items... supposedly it is 10% haste. no info on stacking, screenshot inc shortly
EDIT: edit.. for some reason, it posted "how does a bard solo this if he can't get past the locked door" instead of what I typed ;)
EDIT; SCREENSHOT! will likely go down after ~1000 views.
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Edited, Mon Sep 8 19:38:42 2003
SK spells
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
How about SK spells?
RE: SK spells
# Sep 08 2003 at 8:59 PM Rating: Excellent
I believe http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4101&source=Live is a new spell. pretty sure http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4062&source=Live series is new too -- correct me if I am wrong.
WOOOHAAAA
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Let me just say that this is extremely exciting! I also want to add my sincerest thanx to all you Beta testers for working out many bugs ( I'm sure) allowing us the pleasure of delving deeper into the ever-changing world we love so much. Bravo! As far as the rest of the world, whatever your views on Sony/Verant/whatever aside, I look foward to joining with you in search of further conquest.Onward and Upward!!!

Gaibban Druid of Karana
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Edited, Mon Sep 8 18:22:31 2003
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RE: WOOOHAAAA
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
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Well, we often do beta tests in our house (we seem to like abuse). But, for the LDoN testing, it was more fun than I have had on other beta's. That is because I ended up liking the expansion concepts more than I had expected.

The overall quality is there, inherent to the design of the expansion. It didn't feel like corners had been cut in the quality of the dungeons (they didn't seem like cheap knockoffs), and the new augment idea is very interesting if for no other reason than you can augment any piece of gear in the game, and have well over 20 of them added to your character.

This beta was better than I thought it would be, and that adds to my excitement about the product release.

What I am really, REALLY interested in knowing is what the response will be like in the next few days on this board.

Will people find they enjoy grouping more now with this sytem? How much of their play time are they putting into LDoN, compared to hunting existing zones (that may be a lot less popualted for a while as people explore LDoN). Do they feel the product was on track? Does it do the things sony and the beta testers said it did? Do people like the augments? Who will be the first one who has augments in every slot on their character? What does a character like that play like when taken back to old zones?

Lots of neat things to learn over the next few weeks. I am sure the EQ development team has a big list of questions of their own, as they learn to apply this sort of technology to the game.

My own feeling is the dev team did a terrific job of making this expansion a good one. They made many decisions that will be good for the game, and will make it fresh again (for a while anyway) for those hard core players.
bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:16 PM Rating: Default
what if any new bard songs are there?
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
Call of the Muse is another.. and not sure if Forpar's Verse of Venom is new (Rizlona's for DoTs). Call of the Muse combines both Rizlona and Forpar's into a haste/DD/DoT booster song in one
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 8:10 PM Rating: Decent
what level?
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
curse cure and poison/disease cure are the two new bard songs I am aware of.
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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These were added in LoY. The poster is asking in regards to LDoN.

These are the songs I am aware of:

Call of the Muse : http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4112&source=Live

Forpar's verse of venom : http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4087&source=Live

Fufil's Diminishing Dirge : http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4210&source=Live

Rizlona's Fire : http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4084&source=Live

Forpar's psalm of pain : http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4086&source=Live

Rizlona's Embers : http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4083&source=Live

Forpar's aria of affliction : http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4085&source=Live


Edited, Mon Sep 8 19:16:25 2003
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
Awesome thanks for listing those. They all seam to do the same thing though, just at differant levels. Anyone know of anymore possibly?
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 8:53 PM Rating: Good
supposedly there are 8. while I have already listed two wrong songs.. would http://lucy.fnord.net/spellhistory.html?id=3365&source=Live be the last?
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent
whoops -- don't pay attention to bards too often, just had a groupmate use them when I hadn't seen them before.. most likely all the bards I know on TP are too lazy to quest them ;-)
RE: bard songs
# Sep 08 2003 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
I went and got the second of the two LoY songs after u mentioned curses in that long post-thanks =)
Experience
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
How good is the experience? Will you still want to go to PoP for the best exp, or is this close enough? Also, are the items that drop at all good? Good being, of PoP quality or so.
RE: Experience
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't feel its reasonable to give an opinion on that, since I am not sure how close the beta environment was to production. They often increase exp and loot so that it emulates the natural growth of characters and populates the world with items in a condensed time frame.

How many times have you heard how good exp is in a beta test, only to find your exp in production is much less?

I think all people can tell you is that exp in beta was very good (too good in my opinion). How it is in production is an unknown.
RE: Experience
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
about an aa a dungeon on a normal 65. the xp wasn't that good for the difficulty (IE maybe an aa in 80 minutes average. given the tone of this beta (they are actually paying attn. to bugs and xp feedback etc) it is reasonable to assume that it will be something close to beta levels.
RE: Experience
# Sep 08 2003 at 9:12 PM Rating: Default
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Quote: "given the tone of this beta (they are actually paying attn. to bugs and xp feedback etc) it is reasonable to assume that it will be something close to beta levels."

Possibly, yes. Probably, no. Its just not a hard thing to figure out for them. They know how many mobs, and what level of characters, and the time you have. They already know exactly how much you are capable of getting. And, we do know from previous experience with EQ dungeons that they have a global exp modifier, and they can adjust it (hello, pop zones?). So, I don't think they would spend a great deal of time on that tuning since they have fairly good control of it anyway, plus lots of previous experience with zones of those same levels. From that point of view there is nothing new to them at all.

Also, if you are in beta and have read the beta notes, you will know the answer whether the exp was set higher or not. Whether or not this is the case at the very end of testing I have no idea - but its not right to play up a portion of the game when you have been told otherwise.

That said - even if exp drops to half of what we got, its still fine as far as I am concerned. The reason is that there are so many bonuses inherent to the system, over and above experience. You also get loot that has more slots than normal drops in EQ. Plus the augments. Plus the ability to upgrade all gear in the game. Plus the award points for success of your mission, and the ability to purchase unique items with those points.

All those things together are what is important, and not just "How good is exp". Even if exp was identical (or a bit worse) than a similar dungeon in previous EQ, there are many good reasons to hunt LDoN.
RE: Experience
# Sep 09 2003 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
They have tuned it considerably since beta started. The reason xp was set higher during parts of beta was simple. They had not yet figured out how to give xp from completing adventures.
WOOT?
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
I Heard LDoN comes out tomorrow ( tuesday the 9th ) is this at all true?
RE: WOOT?
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:11 PM Rating: Default
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Yes, according to the Sony site, all servers are down tomorrow 3am until noon. I am sure we all assume that it will probably go past that estimate; could well be that they need extra time. Its a complex process, lets wish them well at it.
compilation
# Sep 08 2003 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Hopefully this should help with some of your questions. This is a compilation of posts, by me mostly, the adventurers stone augment stuff is by nytrous. most of these posts have fallen off the first page, and answer most of the questions that have come up recently. all the pics at freepichosting.com will be taken down very soon (6k views in 3 or 4 days, basically anytime now they will be down) the bottom post about spells is from Call to Glory's guild boards (posted by me)
raids time limits seem to be about 3 hours. adventure time limits are 90 mins. raids take 18-36 people, adventures take 4-6. awarded points on each successful adventure completion depending on level and difficulty level (normal/hard.) you can only get an adventure in a group with people within 7 levels of you. a normal level 30 adventure will provide 3 points, a normal 65 will provide 51 points, and a hard 65 will provide 76 points. you start seeing items at the adventure merchants when you have over 100 points in any one theme. Augments can be dropped **OR** bought at an adventure merchant. adventures have 90 min time limits, twice that for most raids.
after you go through some dialogue in your hometown (or RM/karana if you are kos at home) and some at any adventurers camp, you get an "adventurers stone" to augment your charm. Once you have it you can port around the camps simply by saying the name of another camp near a magus. can add stats when you get a lot of adventure points also. most pure casters recieve disarm/unlock spells for chests. Paladins (my main in beta) recieve a spell called Guidance, which is a 1100hp + 54ac buff (basically on par with aego.) Also get temperance and group temperance. Enchanters get single target VoQuellious and illusion frost bone among other things. New series of spells for several classes that add spellshield %'s, similiar to the items found in potime. Clerics get a melee guard spell -- similiar to spell shield, except takes off melee damage instead of spell damage. various other interesting spells.all items that I saw have aug slots, old world items only one. depending on the level item it is, it will have a different slot. nubi items have slot 1, while time items have slot 8 etc. augments are both dropped, and found on the adventure merchants.
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-- various LDoN stuff,hosted thanks to illia

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The below screenshots were all taken by nytrous, bumping them to the top anyway as some of them are really nice.
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmac024/ldon/QuintessenceOfSand.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmac024/ldon/3dmgaug.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmac024/ldon/frogghost.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmac024/ldon/numleou.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmac024/ldon/ojun.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmac024/ldon/takc.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmac024/ldon/takfight.jpg
some maps -- also by nytrous for the most part
http://ragedemon.netfirms.com/ldon/
Current mechanics of the Adventurer Stone charm augment:

Max stats: 10ac, 10 to all stats and sv's, 100hp/mana

10 successes in *one* theme = 5 bits of knowledge from the adventurer stone quest NPC = 1 boost to your augment

1 boost to your augment = 2hp/mana

every 10hp/mana = 1 ac, 1 to all stat/sv's

minimum successes required to max out aug = 500

as much as that sounds, it won't take that much time... perhaps a month or two if you're an above-average of a typical gamer (in between "typical" and "hardcore")

Currently I'm at around:
10 guk, 6 miragul, 14 mistmoore, 10 rujarkian, 10 takish`hiz wins... 8hp/mana on my charm aug (posted by nytrous)
(post by me on shammy spells) well.. to begin with you get a series of disarm/sense/unlock trap/chest spells. Lesser/normal/great versions of each.
http://lucy.fnord.net/spellhistory.html?id=4261&source=Test
http://lucy.fnord.net/spellhistory.html?id=4273&source=Test
http://lucy.fnord.net/spellhistory.html?id=4285&source=Test
they consume a component sold by the wayfarers, and if they ever get working correctly will be very nice. hopefully by release the traps will be level scaled (a trap on a chest in a 30 normal adventure did 500 damage a tick! http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4114&source=Test )
you get a series of very nice curs based dots cuminating in the below linked Bane. They were changed to 5 ticks, and had the damage lowered slightly. Good change -- it lets them be extended via aas etc. more efficient but nukes, but faster than dots.
http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4095&source=Test
They are adding in Remove Lesser Curse and Remove minor curse spells. http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4056&source=Test
http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4057&source=Test
You **WILL** need these spells in LDoN, EXP mobs, and especially traps curse. not to mention raids... Another important change, they are making RGC buyable with points earned from adventures. This means you can get a spell that drops off a contested mob (Rhag 1 in SSRA IIRC) by xping. To give an example of the significance of this... an MI cleric was recently offering 200kplat for it.
You are getting a new series of movement spells, spirit of the shrew. linking the group one below.. Its run speed is just about identical to run3, but very useful to lower level groups, or slackers who dont have run3 yet. IT CAN BE CAST INSIDE!
http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4055&source=Test
paladins are getting a new, aego type spell. also getting temperance, and group temperance.
http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=4109&source=Test
this will allow you to self buff your hp higher than bot9+kazad can get you.
also -- these new spells will be purchasable at the adventure merchants. hard 65 adventures give 76 points, normal 65 give 51, normal 30 give 3... point cost has not been decided yet





Edited, Mon Sep 8 16:40:51 2003
RE: compilation
# Sep 08 2003 at 4:44 PM Rating: Default
You said that
Quote:
you start seeing items at the adventure merchants when you have over 100 points in any one theme


Does this mean that you cannot browse the merchants beforehand to see how many points you will need to earn to buy a specific spell/aug/item? Do the merchants only show stuff that you already have enough points to purchase?
RE: compilation
# Sep 08 2003 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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They originally only showed you things you had points for. But, that was changed so they now show you what cool things you could have, if only you had a few more points!

Once you get the points for that, they show you the next set.

Think of a jewelry merchant, with a mean streak, on steroids.
RE: compilation
# Sep 08 2003 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
within the last few days, they have made it so you see close items too. also have done way more items -- and lowered the point total. can now get stuff from 1 pt.
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