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#27 Jan 27 2010 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
GwynapNud of the Emerald Dream wrote:
...this may be the book replacement we have been waiting for.


I, for one, am against a book replacement. I like books. I enjoy the feel of a paperback in my hands.

Reading a computer screen makes my eyes hurt after a while.

I don't want to see books replaced. Smiley: frown


You hit the one item that the ipad will not solve that the kindle has .. eyestrain.

I do not see moving on to tablets as a problem. We do not use clay tablets anymore do we, or papyrus or hide? Its just a natural progression. It will make recording history harder though. I doubt in 2,000 years time they will dig up an Ipad and boot it up to find out what we were doing as they can do with ancient cunieform scribbles now ..


Edited, Jan 27th 2010 9:30pm by GwynapNud
#28 Jan 27 2010 at 3:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
GwynapNud of the Emerald Dream wrote:
...this may be the book replacement we have been waiting for.


I, for one, am against a book replacement. I like books. I enjoy the feel of a paperback in my hands.

Reading a computer screen makes my eyes hurt after a while.

I don't want to see books replaced. Smiley: frown


I don't know about this device, but reading a Kindle screen is nothing like reading a computer screen. Doesn't even compare to an LCD, much less a CRT monitor.

I like books, too, but I love my Kindle.
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#29 Jan 27 2010 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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While underwhelming, I find the iPad interesting. I am excited about the move in technology toward this direction, but it still didn't "wow" me like the iPhone did when it came out. I think the fact it even looks exactly like a blown up iTouch is kinda lame.

I'm sure they will add a stylus you could add on later. The fact that it does have Bluetooth keeps options open for things, which is nice.

I'm sticking with my "meh" feeling on it.

For the built in speakers, the site doesn't say if its stereo or not. I didn't hear it in the video either. Anyone know?
#30 Jan 27 2010 at 3:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Reading elsewhere, multiple people said that this thing doesn't have Flash.

Wow... really? That seems almost crippling from a web browsing standpoint.
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#31 Jan 27 2010 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
I just realized that all but one of my university professors are going to completely lose their shit over this thing.
#32 Jan 27 2010 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
I personally don't see anything special about it. It's a large iPod touch with some additional functionality. But the fact that it was a "point" to primarily be able to run iPhone apps (which was a draw of the unveiling) makes it a glorified iPhone without the phone.

What it does do that the iPhone doesn't is multitask. However, that's why I didn't buy an iPhone, and went with the Palm Pre. I have a phone that has all the things that the iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch has and it still fits in my pocket...which is the whole point of portability in a smart device.

It's a tablet. I don't see where the tablet is going to go technologically, aside from the commercial industry where it can actually be utilized in a functional way (Menu's, Service Orders, etc). But as a consumer product, it's really just another device to add to the growing pool of products.
#33 Jan 27 2010 at 3:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Reading elsewhere, multiple people said that this thing doesn't have Flash.

Wow... really? That seems almost crippling from a web browsing standpoint.
That's really poor. I mean, flash will be on mobile devices soon, rendering the point moot, but it seems like strange game plan to just wait for that.
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#34 Jan 27 2010 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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Sweetums wrote:
If it had the option for a stylus and Bluetooth keyboard, I admit it would be pretty cool. I just can't really get excited about it, though.

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 2:56pm by Sweetums


It said on the official page that apple's BT keyboard will be compatible.


Overall I have to agree that this is one of the most mediocre devices that I have recently seen. You're not able to install other mac compatible programs outside of the app store, no expandale memory, no usb ports for existing devices, no support for 802.11 b or g (only runs N from what I read), STILL no wireless syncing unless u wanna shell out 100 bucks a year and thats only for email/calendars/notes, and probably one of the most retardedly simple things that I'm still waiting for on the damn iPhone....no flash support in safari ; ;

I was actually holding off on buying a new netbook to see what apple would turn out, and this coming from someone who owns 2 iPhones (2G and 3GS) and a macbook...my new netbook is ordered and should be in my hands by next week >.>

Edit: oh and to comment on the whole reading on electronic devices vs actual books, I'm gonna have to go with the electronic devices ONLY because I hope that one day all my college textbooks will be on one device...you med students out there can sympathize with this lol...

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 4:55pm by Kalisa
#35 Jan 27 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
I don't know about this device, but reading a Kindle screen is nothing like reading a computer screen. Doesn't even compare to an LCD, much less a CRT monitor.

I like books, too, but I love my Kindle.
I'm interested in the B&N version. What's a book run on those? Cheap?
#36 Jan 27 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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Cheaper then new, around the same to slightly more then a used book. At least for the used book stores out here.

For the kindle, they price new books and bestsellers at $9.99 I believe. Which is a lot less then the ~$30 you spend on them in a store. If you wait and only buy paperbacks, it's less of a difference, and if you buy mostly used books it's even closer.

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 4:21pm by Xsarus
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#37 Jan 27 2010 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Reading elsewhere, multiple people said that this thing doesn't have Flash.

Wow... really? That seems almost crippling from a web browsing standpoint.
That's really poor. I mean, flash will be on mobile devices soon, rendering the point moot, but it seems like strange game plan to just wait for that.


I wouldn't expect full Flash on any Apple device (minus laptops/pc's, obviously) any time soon. There are potential conflicts between what you can get via Flash content on the web for free vs what you have to pay for to get on iTunes. The big example people use is the fact that you can get videos on Hulu that you have to purchase via iTunes - unless you jailbreak your phone, of course.

Here is a link to an interesting article about it.

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 5:24pm by Dozer
#38 Jan 27 2010 at 4:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Atomicflea wrote:
Samira wrote:
I don't know about this device, but reading a Kindle screen is nothing like reading a computer screen. Doesn't even compare to an LCD, much less a CRT monitor.

I like books, too, but I love my Kindle.
I'm interested in the B&N version. What's a book run on those? Cheap?


On the Kindle about $6-$7 for a new paperback. I'm sure the Nook is similar.

The Nook also has a decent (I've heard) library of free books, as well.

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#39 Jan 27 2010 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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My favorite part about an eBook reader is Project Gutenberg Smiley: inlove

So if you like the classics, you can have a free, legal library.

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 4:47pm by Sweetums
#40 Jan 27 2010 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
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Sweetums wrote:
My favorite part about an eBook reader is Project Gutenberg Smiley: inlove

So if you like the classics, you can have a free, legal library.

This

I've just finished Cervantes' Don Quijote on the iPhone - about the 7th or 8th book I've read on it so far.

Have to agree with Joph's observation.

Take away Flash, expansion ports and stylus and it's a slightly gimmicky touch-screen version of the tablet I've used for years.

Mehh
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#41 Jan 27 2010 at 11:10 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
My favorite part about an eBook reader is Project Gutenberg Smiley: inlove

So if you like the classics, you can have a free, legal library.

This

I've just finished Cervantes' Don Quijote on the iPhone - about the 7th or 8th book I've read on it so far.

What reader do you use? I've read a bit on my ipod, but haven't really gotten into it.

Also, what Gutenberg books would you recommend?

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 11:10pm by Xsarus
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#42 Jan 27 2010 at 11:29 PM Rating: Good
I believe Adobe has a way to compile flash apps for the iPhone sdk.

What I was disappointed about was that there is no stylus or baked in handwriting recognition, even Windows 7 has that. I know a stylus is outdated, but with those two things I could get get rid of pretty much everything I lug to class and just take my notes on the iPad instead. I'm sure there will be an app for thatâ„¢ but I'd rather see something officially supported.
#43 Jan 28 2010 at 12:38 AM Rating: Good
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Nobby wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
My favorite part about an eBook reader is Project Gutenberg Smiley: inlove

So if you like the classics, you can have a free, legal library.

This

I've just finished Cervantes' Don Quijote on the iPhone - about the 7th or 8th book I've read on it so far.

What reader do you use? I've read a bit on my ipod, but haven't really gotten into it.

Also, what Gutenberg books would you recommend?

Edited, Jan 27th 2010 11:10pm by Xsarus
I personally use Stanza and Kindle for iPhone if I feel like searching through their free selection.

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#44 Jan 28 2010 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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intelligent pads!? I will pay anything for a pad that doesn't leak. So not sexy.

Kindle for iPhone is the best e-reader programme I've come across in my limited experience. Firstly, most importantly, you can download the first chapters of books for free, to try them out. Secondly, it's paired with an easy payment system, where you don't have to re-enter any details after the first time.

While I love the feel of paper books, I'm now addicted to e-books for three reasons.

1. They cost half the price of a paper book, at least in Oz.

2. I am now not nearly adding so much to the radical overspillage of my bookshelving capacity. If I loan out more large series to my sisters and mother, I may actually be able to unearth the other couch from under my books.

3. I can get away with reading e-books after "lights out" because on the dark-page setting the light is low enough for my partner to sleep through it.

Edited, Jan 28th 2010 8:49am by Aripyanfar
#45 Jan 28 2010 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't like mac, or anything related to macs just on general principal, so anything I say against the diepad has to be taken with a grain of salt. But regarding the e-book potential, apple has missed one hugely important factor. E-ink displays, such as the kindle and the nook and a handful of other devices work for reading because their screens truly mimic a piece of paper. no excess glare, no eye fatigue as you would find normally associated with a standard LCD screen. I still prefer paper books personally, but I can read an e-book on a kindle with somethign approaching my normal reading speed. Reading the same book as a word document on a computer screen, I find I cannot read it as fast, nor read as long as I would otherwise. Whihc is not to say my reading speed on a computer screen is ever slow, just not as fast as normal.

E-ink displays have huge drawbacks, especially given the monochromatic nature of them currently, but they do the purpose they are intended for quite well, and I think apple will find that after the initial hype is over, their book module will not take nearly the markket share they think it will.
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#46 Jan 28 2010 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I've heard about studies that show majority of people who like to read prefer real books over an e-reader of any sort. I don't think the iPad will be the reader the world has been waiting for.

I'm a mac user and I agree that this is very lackluster. Wait for version 2.0 to be released (right before xmas?) though. Also, they have already released the SDK for it and that is where I believe the real revenue will come from. It's basically going to be a device that will rake in the dough from subscription costs like Netflix, TV, Music (iTunes), News Alerts, Weather Alerts, Traffic Alerts, Data usage, etc., etc., etc.

It's not really worth getting at the moment, but the potential for much more is there and I'm sure this is why some people seem so excited.
#47 Jan 28 2010 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Too bad Mad TV came up with the iPad 3 years ago.


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What it does do that the iPhone doesn't is multitask.

No, it doesn't. That's one of the biggest drawbacks to the iPad aside from the lack of Flash support. Also, 64Gb is pretty damn small this day and age for something that's designed to store and display music, movie, and photo collections.

These drawbacks haven't dissuaded my wife from drooling over the iPad, though. I tend to agree with this article that Apple's target audience for this isn't really people who already own and use a netbook, Kindle, or even an iPhone; it's for everyone else that hasn't joined the portable media revolution yet, most of whom just want something that's ridiculously intuitive to use.
#48 Jan 28 2010 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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About the only thing I find vaguely interesting or amusing about this is the people who have dubbed it the iTampon. Are there no women consulted when they come up with names like this?
#49 Jan 28 2010 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, I'm looking forward to the possibility of Jailbreaking it. If that can be done, this will be an amazing device.
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About the only thing I find vaguely interesting or amusing about this is the people who have dubbed it the iTampon. Are there no women consulted when they come up with names like this?


"So, it finally got around to that time of the month for the product's launch, and it turns out that the iPad can't handle periodicals. I guess the folks who had hoped it could cope with their 24-hour news cycle are especially disappointed," - random commenter on Gawker
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What I would really like to know is it it comes in a version with "wings" and can I wear it when I swim?

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Ambrya wrote:
About the only thing I find vaguely interesting or amusing about this is the people who have dubbed it the iTampon. Are there no women consulted when they come up with names like this?


"So, it finally got around to that time of the month for the product's launch, and it turns out that the iPad can't handle periodicals. I guess the folks who had hoped it could cope with their 24-hour news cycle are especially disappointed," - random commenter on Gawker
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