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Thurgadin is the home of the Coldain dwarves of Velious. It is a thriving city full of shops and taverns, a library, and a bank. They're a little apprehensive of outsiders, but will allow you into their city provided you haven't already made enemies of the Coldain by slaughtering their kind on the outside.
Entering Thurgadin...Patrolling the City GroundsOutside the Priest Guild HallHeading Into the City from the Great DivideFrundle's Potion ShopFire Outside Agar's ShopVelium Crystal StatuesIn the Thurgadin ExchangeThe LibraryThe Velium Keg Can Get a Bit Rowdy...Abandonned Mining AreaGrand Historian of the Coldain
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Mobs up after a failed ring war attempt:
# Apr 12 2008 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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All dwarves, lying on their sides, like dead, but with full health bars, and on the one I checked, not able to be /open. A gutted guard, a murdered merchant, a conquered coldain, a gored guard, a perforated priest. There were lots and lots of these guys all over the place. Only one priest that I saw though. All grey to level 70. Oh, and a Bludgeoned Banker, lying on the top of the banker counter. There was no pretend corpse for the other one, so I wonder if he was kidnapped, or maybe even eaten by the bloodthirsty giants. I keep finding new ones: A punctured priestess. A Butchered Butcher.

Edited, Apr 13th 2008 3:03am by Guyyug

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Edited, Apr 13th 2008 4:01am by Guyyug
travelling to velious
# Jun 13 2003 at 11:59 PM Rating: Default
Hi all,

I just recently enabled my Scars of Velious expansion; however, I'm confused on how to use it. I don't see the velious continent on any maps, nor can I see a way to start a character there, so how do I get to velious at all?

Do I need either of the two newest expanions, Planes of Power or Legacy of Ykesha, in order to get to velious?

Thanks in advance.
RE: travelling to velious
# Jun 23 2003 at 11:46 PM Rating: Decent
There is a ship you can take to Velious.

If you have Luclin, however, it is easier to wait at the Velious Spire for the port down. Go to the Nexus and go to the Spire with the two Erudites, one will be Odus Scion and the other Velious Scion. Wait till it says "Now porting to Velious" or whatever and get on, then you'll be transported down.

Hope this helps :)
RE: travelling to velious
# Jun 25 2003 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
Great, thanks. I do have Luclin. Is anything KOS in Velious? I have a Vah Shir in Luclin now.

Are high elves KOS in Luclin, because I have a high elf wizard over in Felwith that can get to Luclin.

Just curious, where does the ship leave from to get to Velious?

RE: travelling to velious
# Jul 27 2003 at 4:03 AM Rating: Decent
You can't be KoS in any Luclin cities; unless you have killed residence of the area. (excluding any cities with bandits, monsters ect.)
RE: travelling to velious
# Jun 18 2003 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
120 posts
In case you haven't already figured this out, when you log in, at some point you will see a button that says enable expansion. You type the product key in, and this will allow you to use the expansion.
RE: travelling to velious
# Jun 18 2003 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
I already enabled the Velious expansion. My question is how can I get to it. Can you travel there by ship, or do you have to teleport there? Is there another way to get there, or to play a character in Velious?

# Apr 17 2003 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
No one has really commented on how easy the exp here is for 35-40 , go to the mines and just starting whipping everything in sight it takes no more then 2 blues of mana for a 36 BL to kill any one thing and the exp is awesome a blue or more per kill. The goos drop the best loot and are the best exp , spiders are extremely Magic Resistant, and are crappy exp and hit very hard and fast but they are still easy to kill solo , the bats are medium and give the 2nd best exp and the rats are just pitifully easy. And if your a melee or just need a heal once you exit the mines run right passed icewell when you hit a T section turn right again and run into the fort, Battlepreist BlahBlah will heal you for 300 2 times automaticaly if you have a mob on you so whenever im at low health i just grab a spider or something run him to the fort get healed and watch 16 coldain kill one spider its quite fun.
Ueadianon 42 BL
Invis potions
# Mar 25 2003 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
somebody said that INvis potions can be bought here. If so, anyone know where? thx
RE: Invis potions
# Jul 27 2003 at 4:08 AM Rating: Decent
Invis potions can be bought almost anywhere. Alchemy supply merchants carry bottles called cloudy potion. They cost about 12 plat [to my troll with CHA buffs].
raising faction in thurgadin
# Dec 02 2002 at 11:06 PM Rating: Default
is there any way for a lv4 high elh enchanter to raise their faction in thurgadin?i've got my charisma up to 135 and the merchants there still charge alot and pay little.i think killing a few wolves back in faydark is affecting this.can it be rectified?
raising faction in thurgadin
# Apr 14 2005 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
58 posts
Most people start off apprehensive to the coldain. My Dark Elf did. Best way to raise faction with them is to kill Frost Giants in Eastern Wastes, Iceclad, or Great Divide. For some reason, the giants in Kael don't give much Coldain faction.

Of course, if you like having Kromriff or Kromzek faction, this method won't work.
building faction w/dorfs
# Nov 29 2002 at 12:49 AM Rating: Good

the BEST & EASIEST way to gain faction w/Thurg is to hang around the waterfall entrance in GD (or in EW) and wait for a Ring War sequence to start.

U'll have to travel around a bit but U can usually find out where the fighting will begin (note: ya do this at yur own risk. there IS some danger......)

once ya find where the actions starts, let the group/guild engage the mobs for awhile....and then toss a small spell or hit'em with an arrow/throwing knives/shuriken.

(note: make sure its a tiny spell ya toss, and do it from a safe distance, AND make sure U only do it once.)

U wont, or rather shouldnt, do any dmg on the mobs but just taking a swipe at them will count as a hit and add towards faction; +dorfs and -giants.

I went from apprehensive to high amiable/warmly in 1 night. hunting in GD/EW some more, plus 1 more RW got me to ally.

total time: 2 weeks. it was cake!

(see my post in the SkyShrine section for easiest way to gain faction w/wurms)

How Tough
# Oct 18 2002 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
41 posts
Hello =)

Just wondering how tough it would be for a lower level (17ish)human to survive in this town long enough to get some things for trade skills? How would they go about getting there?

Thanks and have a great day!
RE: How Tough
# Jul 27 2003 at 4:19 AM Rating: Decent
What's there to survive from? This is a safe place to visit, even at low lvs. (I must warn you though; falling off an icy ledge obviously will kill you, and do not go into any snowy tunnels that turn off from the city's roads. I found only death in those tunnels - skeletons) If you want tradeskill supplys, the bank area has a merchant for every tradeskill and a forge, loom, brew-barrel, pottery wheel and kiln. The perfect place to practice tradeskills considering you have enough money. Hope this helps. Good luck! Smiley: smile
Hunting in Thurg
# Aug 16 2002 at 10:50 PM Rating: Good
I'd just like to say something for us poor people who do believe we can hunt in Thurg. It is possible, just tricky. First thing is it seems that ALL the guards are very magic resistant. That adds alot of spice to the fight. *grin* If pulling the front guards either get a monk with a throwing item to split them or don't try. It's not easy at all. If you have a monk with a throwing item, make sure he pulls all the way down the tunnel to the zoneline, so when the dwarf starts running, you have the longest amount of time before it makes it to the town. If you have to pull singly that is possible too. Go to the Icekeep zoneline and sit near there (Get there with invis or invis potions), have the puller pull the roamers that come by the crossroads near it. Once the mob starts running go all out! Get the cleric, enchanter, everyone to beat on it before he makes it to the bars... if worse comes to worse just zone. Training there effects noone. *grin* So to sum it all up, coldain killers get nothing to help them in Thurg. Poor wizards and other nuking classes must sit outside, for the magic resist will stop them from doing anything... At least hunting in Thurg is a change in pace...
Velious Quest Gem Links
# Jul 21 2002 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
RE: Velious Quest Gem Links
# Jul 22 2002 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
Melee - Warrior, Rogue, Monk, Ranger, Shadowknight, Paladin, Bard
Priest - Cleric, Druid, Shaman
Caster - Wizard, Enchanter, Mage

Black Marble - Priest Breastplate
Chipped Onyx Sapphire - Priest Legs
Crushed Black Marble - Melee Boots
Crushed Coral - Melee Helmet
Crushed Flame Emerald - Melee Bracer, Priest Boots
Crushed Flame Opal - Caster Helm
Crushed Jaundice Gem - Caster Boots
Crushed Lava Ruby - Priest Gloves
Crushed Onyx Sapphire - Priest Helm, Caster Bracer
Crushed Opal - Priest Bracer
Crushed Topaz - Melee Gloves, Caster Gloves
Flawed Emerald - Melee Arms
Flawed Sea Sapphire - Melee Legs
Flawed Topaz - Caster Arms
Flawless Diamond - Melee Breastplate
Jaundiced Gem - Priest Arms
Nephrite - Caster legs
Pristine Emerald - Caster Breastplate

Velious Quest Gem Links:

Source material from Spring 2002
RE: Velious Quest Gem Links
# Jul 27 2003 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
Isn't a necromancer also a caster? If not, then what is it?
RE: Velious Quest Gem Links
# Jul 27 2003 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
<DELETED> Sorry. Double post.

Edited, Sun Jul 27 05:17:29 2003
# Mar 12 2002 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
anyone know if they will ever implement more shawl quests in the game? right now there are 7 shawls i think
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 05 2001 at 7:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i bought the kunark expansion this summer. Ive been wanting the Velius expansion, but were i live there are no stores that sells it. Were should i look to buy it? is there anywere on the net were i can buy it and it SAFTLY ships it? or somewhere were i can buy it and download it from the web page? If you know plz tell me.
# Aug 20 2001 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
Ok so does anyone know whats up with the lollipops hanging around all the dwarves in Thurgadin lately?
Warriors Guild
# Aug 14 2001 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
This there a Warriors Guild in the city of Thurgadin? If so where can one find it at?

Skill Points Burning a Hole in me Pocket.....

Revell Durinheart
33rd Lvl Warrior
Seekers of Lore
# Jun 10 2001 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
This is a city, does that mean melee classes can bind here?
RE: Bind?
# Jul 03 2001 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
Yes you can bind here.
The Mines
# Jun 04 2001 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
Near the Icewell Keep zone there is a series of mines and tunnels that is some pretty nice hunting for mid 30. Heck, if a CLERIC can solo there and get nice xp, you know its easy :)

The "goo" will drop coldain heads, which can be sold to folks for faction in Kael. They drop 2-4 plat per kill. Get a small group together and you can go down to level and clear the entire thing. Just me and a rogue (both gnomes, if that matters) keep entire area clear for a long time.

Lacuna Coil
40th GNOME Cleric
Mith Marr
Banker spawn
# May 24 2001 at 9:20 PM Rating: Default
does anybody now how long does it take for the banker to respawn after sombody kills him?
Coldain Heads
# May 22 2001 at 5:47 AM Rating: Default
Kiling a few of the Tar goos last night and came upon 2 coldain heads. Could anyone tell me what these can be used for?
RE: Coldain Heads
# May 22 2001 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
Heads can be used for two quests in the Giant city to raise Giant faction. Depending on which quest you do, you could lose Dwarf faction, in addition, to Dragon faction.

Captain Bvellos at bank in KD will raise all Giant factions, drop Dragon
kromrif recruiter will raise Storm/Frost, drop Dwarf/Dragon

I've never done the recruiter quest, but the Captain's quest is very good faction for each of the heads.
# May 03 2001 at 12:27 AM Rating: Default
All of the quest armor drops behind the arena in kael and tormaxes guards. You must have amiable faction to recieve any of this armor. The gems drop in Velk, DN, Icewell, CS, WW, Sirens, and rarelly in kael. There are several long quests that will raise your faction with the dorfs in thurd. I suggest the easiest way is to kill the many giants and wolves in the great divide. Also the giants on the lower floors of Kael give dorf faction but otherwise are useless. This is slow but it will eventually bring up your faction. No one is KoS upon entering Thurd for the first time. If you kill the dwarfs in Icewell or in the Great Divide it will lower your faction gradually. They are rare drops in the area around Kael. On each raid we usually get a max of 2 to 3 peices of the cleric items, and almost the same ratio for the other classes(keep in mind that we pull almost everything in the area, spend long periods of time there, and with smaller events the ratio will not be the same) Overall not many people will see any of these peices. Its taken me about 7 raids for one of the cleric bracers and the guantlets. Good luck and I hope this helps
RE: Drops/factions/l3wts
# Jun 14 2001 at 9:25 AM Rating: Default
last night i went hunt to keal at south side with a well balanced group .
in about 6hours we collected 9 pieces of armor quest;4 casters(the chanter was really happy :) ) ,2 plates ,2 chains ( with BP !!) and one leather .
we also collect 9 others drops : cloak ac8 6str 6Sta 35hp wght .5 ; Collar AC15 +2str war only and others things .
and the xp was decent (├ęblue bub at lvl53 )
That was THE NIGHT !!
# Apr 29 2001 at 7:00 AM Rating: Default
I am in Thurgadin, i am a human paladin, At first the dwarfs whould sell to me, Now they wont i killed a few wolfs... and other ast mobs, what wrecks yor faction in this city, and how can i fix it?
# Aug 25 2001 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
When you kill the Dire Wolves make sure you are only killing Drakkel Dire Wolves. There are Dire Wolves tamed and trained by both the giants and the dwarves, and you will lose faction for killing the pets of whatever race you kill.
Chucc Realmwalker
Norrathian Peoples Front
Luclin Server
# Jul 03 2001 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
Killing Giants and Dire wolves in GD is one way to increase your faction
Cleric Quest Info
# Apr 24 2001 at 4:16 PM Rating: Default
I have read the others posts and from what I gather the trash area in Icewell Keep is the only area to get the crushed opals, black marbles, crushed flame emeralds, etc. Is there any other place to get them that any knows of and from what MoBs?

Also, theses quests require ancient tarnished armor, or unadorned armor, but they don't give any clues as where I can get them. Does anyone have and idea if I can buy it or where and what MoBs drop it? I just made lvl 50 and I am still wearing bronze boots, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

The poor Cleric.
Iksar KoS??
# Mar 27 2001 at 8:57 AM Rating: Default

Well, first off I should really ask whats the level range, I know you can look it up on this site but its not very solid info.

For the love of god, dont tell me to "Go con' things" becuase sweet Jesus I cant waste my time running through dragon filled SUPER-DANGEROUS zones to go and "Con' things"

Please dont flame, I know how to get there also, but I wanna know if theres groups there or if its empty, is it only meant for 45's-50's. Or around 39's-50

Any info is welcome... ANY info, hehe

Dakomodo Rabidmunkee,
Guild - Mystic Warriors of the Night,
This is a pre-thank you,
RE: Iksar KoS??
# Mar 27 2001 at 12:55 PM Rating: Default
Ask and ye shall recieve.

First,nobody starts KoS with the Coldain. You'll be apprehensive to them,being non-Dwarven.

Second off,one can start as early as 30th in Velious,in Thurgardin in fact. I was soloing the rats,bats,spiders and goos then,and have made four very nice levels doing so. A team of high 20's could do the same for nice xp and decent if not superlative loot(low end gems,crystalline silk nets,coldain heads,and coin up through 2-4 platinum+ on bats and goos). Once you get up a few levels,start exploring from there...Crystal Caverns is rather popular right now.
# Mar 06 2001 at 7:04 AM Rating: Default
# Mar 11 2001 at 5:06 PM Rating: Default
You cant get from Kunark to Veliuos Direct. You can however catch the Blated Belly ship from Overthere (be careful you are KOS) to Timorous deep (be careful again as you also KOS) then to Oasis via rafts called muck skimmers. Once in Oasis travel to NRO to where the pirate gnome jetty is and catch the raft again to Veliuos. Once you land on the other Island run to the jetty just on the other side and wait for the Icebreaker which will then take tou to the Iceclad Ocean mainland. From there its all up to you.
# Mar 10 2001 at 2:38 AM Rating: Default
Take the boat from North Ro. Easy as that.

There's no direct Kunark-to-Velious ship,far as I know.
Escape Mines?
# Mar 05 2001 at 3:59 PM Rating: Default
How do you get out of the Mines once you go see Stonetooth?
# Jan 30 2001 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
286 posts
Where exactly do the quest armors (corroded plate, unadorned leather, worn fine silk, et. al.) drop? I have yet to see or hear of any dropping, would I have to go deep into Kael/Thurgadin/Skyshrine for them? Are they random off of any of the three major races of mobs (Coldain, Kromrif/Kromzek, Kin)? Or, just the higher level ones?
# Jan 21 2001 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
I am Iksar Necro. Which faction that I should raise for Thurgadin?
Where can I hunt and get that faction?
Is there KOS all Iksar?
RE: Faction
# Mar 02 2001 at 6:27 PM Rating: Default
I'm an Iksar and did nothing for faction an walked right in ............I saw a troll get jumped so it might not be good for them but we are not KoS there unless they have a thing with you being a necro you should be fine.

ps im a war lvl33
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