Plane of Hate

This is my take on the "New" Hate and some of the loot and stuff that we have seen in the last two months. I hope it can help someone out there.

A friend got me interested in that zone maybe two months ago. Since then I have been up to Hate at LEAST 5 times a week. Up until recently every single night. In the very beginning it was just the zone in area for my posse then I got comfortable and began to venture deeper.

Loot explained in the following was noted by OMG's I saw in groupchat while'st I was pullin. So forgive me if I dont have the exact epic drop name but if you send me a tell on Prexus I'll get the exact name from my lootbish.

IMPORTANT: For those not familiar with the New Hate, just like the Old Hate- No touchie wallzors pleazors. You will bring trains up the ying yang especially at the zone in area.

Mind you that the following was stuff I have seen in the last two months.

ZONE-IN and area EAST of it: This is where I have seen 5 Staffs of Elemental Mastery's. I CONFIRM it was 5. I am not sure but I think most were EARTH ones and one FIRE. But I do KNOW 5 dropped. And 2 mage guildies I know were pleased from my groups MQ's. Essence of Vampire- seen about 3 at this area drop off FEMALE Revs. The Hate loot table is weird. Some nights at zone in I'd notice in a 3hr sitting we'd get about 10-15 Old Hate armor drops then some nights just 1-2. Reg xp is pretty good up til about 58, after that this area is AA. For those of you looking for Lvl 1 SIGNETS- in 2 months or so, my group had multi-quested about 15+ Level 1 Hate Range items from drops at zone in alone. The other class signets drop alot but man oh man the SIGNET OF THE DARK SOLDIER is the rare one. I have seen a total of "5" Dark Soldier Sigs in two months.

Area south of Zone-in. Smack CENTER of the Zone- MAESTRO's Cathedral: Old Hate armor drops slowed down considerably at this area. I noticed mobs are tougher and of course give better xp. Lots of Level 2 Range item quest drops. 2 months and have not seen any "Crests" for Lvl2 drop around here. Lots of Named can be pulled to this spot. R'tal, GM Q'teil (sp) (all times dropped a no ac +3 saves ring), Corruptor of Life (fleshless skull), Mistress of Scorn(don't remember what dropped but we let it rot, twice), Mage P'tasa (shattered emerald), Deathrot Knight(pally quest drop), and some Golem N'ilik (sp) not listed here (dropped a rogue mask i think) . Note: I never saw a GRANDMASTER R'tal BUT I did see MASTER R'tal who both times dropped Sodes of Empowerment. Can anyone confirm a GM R'tal sighting and not the MASTER one?

South of Cathedral (Near Inny): AA is purty good here. No complaints. 2 Crest drops in this area. My etched soldiers crest and a priest crest dropped. Soldiers crest dropped off a Gravelord of Hate of all things and the priest crest dropped off a Vicar of Hate. Also, a Dissertation of War dropped off a named mob Dreadknight Something NOT Deathrot Knight.

I usually did this with a group of 60-65's. Most time with no enchanter usually a pally, me, cleric, shammy, rogue and usually but not always a tracker class.

I am still exploring west and the 4 house spawn southwest of zone in. West- I have seen 1 named that Death or Dreadknight guy. 4 house spawn- I have seen jack squat. I know 11 PH's. I'm guessin theres still a few more ph's out there especially due east of the Inny and in the west side of Maestro.

Hope that helps someone out there. If yer on prexus, send me a tell I'll show you around if i'm not already there.

This was the $#!@% stupidest Idea SoE has came up with yet. How is a Young Ranger supposed to get his $#@!%$# epic now. You used to be able to raid and get your epic when you were lvl 46+. Now you have to %^$#@ join afterlife or some high end guild to get your $#@!$#@! epic. I am totally pissed.

This makes about as much sense as a soup sandwich. ***** you guys that need PoH for your epic. At least that is what SoE says. Half the people capable of running this zone don't even use their epics anymore. This is just straight stupid.

Paladin Planar armor used to drop off the Knights of Innoruuk. I saw a Knight of Hate in the area round Maaestro's Cathedral but only 2 were pulled and niether of them dropped any armor. Jsut wondering if anyone has run across any of it yet.

Here is what I have found. In GFay, just north of the Wizard Spires are two new NPCs. Stefan Marsinger is sitting, and his sister Seana Marsinger is standing next to him. Here is the text:

You say, 'Hail, Stefan Marsinger'
Stefan Marsinger says 'Salutations, my name is Stefan Marsinger. My sister Seana and I are here on quite a mission for the League of Antonican Bards as well as our own interests.'

I tried all sorts of variations on mission, interests, Bards, etc. and got nothing more from Stefan. Here is Seana's text:

You say, 'Hail, Seana Marsinger'
Seana Marsinger says 'Hello, my name is Seana Marsinger. I am here representing my loyalty to the League of Antonican Bards. It matters not to me whether you support the League or loathe it propaganda is not my objective. Everyone must find their own truths in this life path, so says Quellious. To business then, are you [familiar with the Plane of Hate?]'

You say, 'I am familiar with the Plane of Hate'

Seana Marsinger says 'Good, I need someone that has a bit of an eye for how things should look up there. My brother and I have been studying Innoruuk and his intricate dealings for years. Being raised in New Tanaan may lend us certain neutrality towards all people, yet the values our parents have instilled in us do not allow us to let him go unwatched. In fact, I have begun to believe that my paranoia may prove useful not only to the League, but to the Citizens of Tranquility and New Tanaan itself as well. We have received a simple [piece of intelligence] that may conceivably upset the entire balance of the Pantheon and have most dire repercussions here in Norrath.'

You say, 'What intelligence?'

Seana Marsinger says 'An old friend of our father's in Qeynos, Jusean Evanesque, has been very busy sorting out the information that is coming to him in droves. The first clue came from Kardin Nillic in Gunthak, and then in bits and pieces from many travelers moving through Qeynos. Piracy on the seas has grown, and somehow the Broken Skull Clan has gained power that should have been out of their grasp. Our informants there say that it can only come from Innoruuk. I am afraid that the Plane itself has shifted with this power. I do not believe that we will be able to uncover all that we need [alone] in time to warn people of the dangers.'

You say, 'Why are you alone?'

Seana Marsinger says 'Our parents are back in Qeynos assisting Jusean with all that needs to be verified and ensuring that the League's network contacts are all still viable. They will need to stay there in case we must get the word out quickly. I do not believe that any of the residents of Tanaan would approve of our little quest, and would view it as biased. Thus we are here alone. Does this type of project [interest] you?'

You say, 'I am interested'

NOTE THAT THE TEXT HERE CHANGES FROM SEANA TO STEFAN!!!! Neither I nor another guildmate of mine noticed this subtle change.

Stefan Marsinger takes a moment to size you up. 'You appear to be a practitioner of pure magic, am I correct?'

You say, 'You are correct'

Stefan Marsinger says 'I believe it is safest if you study those who have similar interests as yourself. Travel to the Plane of Hate and observe the revenant, the ashenbone drake, and the loathing lich. They seem to be the main practitioners of your art in the least dangerous area. My interaction with these creatures has been mostly at a distance, and I am not as familiar with them as I would like. If you survive long enough to uncover some type of signet that proves you have been studying these creatures, and truly wish to aid with this cause, bring it to me along with some vampire dust and a diamond. I can craft you protective item and may have some further work for you to do.'

When I gave my items (No Drop Minor Signet of Dark Sorcery I got from an Ashenbone Drake in Plane of Hate, Vampire dust from a Forsaken Revenant in Plane of Hate, and a diamond) to SEANA (who I thought I was talking to), I got:

Seana Marsinger says 'I have no need for this item Elanore, you can have it back.'

It gave me back my signet, but ate my vampire dust and diamond.

After discussing with my guild, I got another vampire dust and diamond, and turned them in to STEFAN Marsinger and got:

Stefan Marsinger inspects the items closely before transforming them into a small glimmering jewel. 'That should help a bit. My studies are coming along rather well, although it is still far too early to decipher what is going on for certain. Do you wish to venture further into the plane and do some more [work] for me?'
You receive 9 platinum from Stefan Marsinger.

I received 'Gem of Sorcery' (looks like a non-stackable peridot icon):
Gem of Sorcery
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 10
CHA: +5 INT: +10 HP: +35 MANA: +35
SV FIRE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL

Not a bad range slot item at all.

You say, 'What work?'

Stefan Marsinger says 'Wonderful. Return to the plane and continue your studies of the demons of magic. With the new information you have brought I believe we have a good framework of reference for the lower rankings of these beings, however there is another echelon of power that I will need to be familiar with. Seek out the minions of magic that seem to take Dark Elven form. These would be the sages, warlocks, and sorcerers. All of these creatures should be within your area of study, but take care! You may even find some that follow your particular discipline if that makes you more comfortable. Make sure to keep your protection with you at all times. Some of them should have a kind of Etched Sorcerer's Crest symbolizing their rank; bring me this crest and some hatebone drake bones, along with your Gem of Sorcery. If you succeed in this task you are more valuable than I could have imagined, and I may need your skill with a final reconnaissance errand.'

So the quest does work, but you must give the items to Stefan, if you are an INT caster. I am not certain which one you would give your items to if you are a WIS caster, a melee, or a hybrid - I would suggest you watch the text to see who is speaking to you for the turn-in. Also, the turn in itmes (and mobs you get them off of) are differnet for WIS caster, INT caster, melee and Hybrid.

Here are the items for the other classes (taken from Caster's Realm Enchanter Message Boards):

Priest reward step 1:
Gem of Faith
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 10
STA: +5 WIS: +10 HP: +35 MANA: +35
SV FIRE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: CLR DRU SHM
Race: ALL

Hybrid Reward step 1:
Gem of Courage
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 10
STR: +5 STA: +5 CHA: +5 WIS: +5
INT: +5 HP: +35 MANA: +35 SV FIRE: +5
SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: PAL RNG SHD BRD BST
Race: ALL

Melee Reward step 1
Gem of War
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 10
STR: +5 STA: +5 HP: +35 SV FIRE: +5
SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR MNK ROG
Race: ALL

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Hybrid Reward step 2:
Gem of Daring
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 10
STR: +5 STA: +10 WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +50 MANA: +50
SV FIRE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: PAL RNG SHD BRD BST
Race: ALL

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Priest Reward step 3:
Gem of Transcendence
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 15
STA: +15 WIS: +15 HP: +75 MANA: +75
SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +15
SV POISON: +5
Effect: Flowing Thought III (Worn)
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: CLR DRU SHM
Race: ALL

Hybrid Reward step 3:
Gem of Heroism
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 15
STR: +10 STA: +15 WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +75 MANA: +75
SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +5
Effect: Vengeance III (Worn)
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: PAL RNG SHD BRD BST
Race: ALL

Melee Reward step 3
Gem of Victory
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 15
STR: +10 STA: +15 HP: +75 SV FIRE: +5
SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +5
Effect: Vengeance III (Worn)
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR MNK ROG
Race: ALL

Caster Reward step 3:
Gem of Conquest
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: RANGE
AC: 15
STA: +10 CHA: +5 INT: +15 HP: +75 MANA: +75
SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +5
Effect: Flowing Thought III (Worn)
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL

I don't know if the quest is MQ-able, but I would bet it probably is (at least for the first part)

Do you still need a Wizard to portal into Hate Plane or have they opened up the entrance from the Spectre Tower in Oasis of Marr?

I have posted a very basic map of the zone here:

http://www.meryddian.net/pohate.html

I have also created a very basic mod for the StoryWindow regarding the list of epic drops and a new set of quests that take place between Greater Faydark and PoHate, you can download it here:

http://www.meryddian.net/storywindow.html
(last updated 5/15/03)

I am updating it as I compile information, so please note it is not complete *yet* but there is enough information to get you started on questing.

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Plane of Hate v.2 (aka New Hate) consists of 3 main areas:

North of the cathedral/zone-in: lowest level mobs of the zone, the "old favorites" from the original hate. If you have an epic piece that drops off a "common" mob from Old Hate, this is where to hunt. This is also the area you will need to hunt to get the Minor Signet and common drops for the first part of the GFay/Hate quests. Good exp hunting for 46-high 50's.

Cathedral/central/south: The center of the zone is dominated by the Maestro's Cathedral. Several of the named mobs in the zone spawn in/near here. Mobs that used to be on the second level of Old Hate are also found throughout this area, as well as higher-level versions of the zone-in area mobs (ie zone-in area would have "a cleric of hate," but in this area you would see "a vicar of hate," "a high priest of hate" etc). This is the area you need to hunt for the Crests and common drops for the 2nd part of the GFay/Hate quests. Good aaxp for those in their 60's.

Innoruuk's citadel: Home to the Big Boss of Hate himself, this is where Innoruuk spawns, and the highest level dark elf mobs are. Good aaxp for those in their 60's.

Maestro and Innoruuk drop the books needed to complete the 3rd step of the GFay/Hate quests.

The respawn rate of the common mobs in the zone is now about 8 minutes, which means that exp groups can now come up and camp parts of Hate. The zone can easily accommodate 6-8 groups (or more, depending on how readily your group is able to dispatch mobs) The minibosses seem to have varying respawn rates and at least one of them (Grandmaster) has a placeholder.

Additionally, there is no longer the faction messages that used to exist, and you also do not have to listen to various mobs spamming you with messages ("all hail Innoruuk!"). Most of the mobs drop straight cash, UP TO 17pp+change, with rarer drops of research pages, gems, cash loot, old-version Hate armor, as well as the Gem quest items (Minor Signet, Crest, various nodrop items).

Hope this info gives a bit of starter info. :)

what's this new Plane of on Legends they mentioned in the last patch? I want a new Plane of ! /pissandmoan on

lvl is wrong he was yellow to me at 64

I'm currently a 39 chanter, frantically lvling to get to plane lvl, was wondering, who here drops the chanter plane armor? If it's even dropped here. Any info is greatly appreciated ^_^

I've been to hate quite a few times and never seen the mob "The Deathrot Knight" and neither did the others on the raid, but the monk brought him in on our pull, was red to 60 but easily taken down by 3 groups. He dropped a WAR/SK sword.

Silver Blade of Rot
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: Primary Secondary
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 35
DMG: 17 AC: 10
STR: +10 DEX: -10 STA: +10 CHA -10
WIS: -10 INT: +5 AGI: -10 SV DISEASE: -15
SV MAGIC: +5 SV POISON: -15
Class: WAR SHD
Race: DEF
Deity: Innoruuk

There is a picture of the dude's corpse and stats on sword at http://www.sagaciousguild.org/deathrot.jpg

Sword of rot, eh? Well... thats exactly what it did....

Mailara
56 Templar
Triad of Honor
Mithaniel Marr server

Edited, Wed Jul 31 03:25:51 2002

Im a Dark elf cleric, and im wondering if i go to PoH wiht my guild, will it have faction? like how the PoG has faction, and u cant get into the High elf town if u kill there ( or atleast thats what i heard ).. anyways, any help here?