Research

The pure casters can research and write their own spell scrolls to add to their spell books. A number of different spells can only be gotten through research.

For each pertinent class, what it the best way to use and develop this skill? What researched spells should you be concentrating on learning? How can you develop the skill high enough to learn the right spells? Where can you find the spell materials?

Post the best strategies for researching spells, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
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reasearch
# Apr 01 2005 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
built into the game that some spells research ony which is fun and also can be fraustrating when words hardly ever drop that you need to do the research. then you finally get the need words and then you fizzle.
Triv list
# Jan 14 2005 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
I badly need a triv list (with all info) for necro spells. sooo tirred of searching for a good necro site, and spending hours here looking for what words for what spell at which triv.. Can anyone help?
RE: Triv list
# Jun 24 2005 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
there is a research list for necromancer on eqtraders, which i printed off, and use religiously in order to find which words i need. I also used spreadsheet and put the words in order of the maximum skillup they are good for. Which lets me know which spells i'm working on for practice. it is a long boring thing trying to look for a components list which already lists this for me. and almost as much fun typing it myself...BUT, necessity is the mother of desperation. :D

Necrum Mantzer lvl 42
book
# Oct 24 2004 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
what book do i need to reasearch spells in im a lvl 24 wizard dark elf
Researching Pets
# Sep 28 2004 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a 24th Mage trying to get my everfont and Pet spells. The Elemental grimorie gives me no advise as to what componets I need. Anyone know how/where I can find the componets needed for 24th level pets or what skill level is required?
Geerlok
# Dec 22 2003 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Buy a tinkered, Geerlok Quill in the Bazaar on Luclin for a 5% increase in successful combines of research pages/runes.Costs 100pp - 500pp.
#Sizzlefirestarter, Posted: Sep 03 2003 at 8:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am looking for a place where it is not to boring to level my 32 ranger, I am currently in DSP, with cleric friend, I want to know where I can go with good XP< LOOT< and not be boring, from levels 32 through 40.Went to Ranger Glade for information on zones and places< but no luck.
hmmm
# Sep 02 2003 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
ive never asked this before so i dont know what kind of response im going to get, but as a 53 wizzy and a 31 necro i do a bit of researching, could i have my wizzy research necro spells with the right book, words, and stuff? or is it restricted to a certain class? it would be great if i could just use shared bank to do things for my research but i havent had time to test it, anyone know? thanks
RE: hmmm
# Oct 03 2003 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm pretty sure that the answer is no. Here is a summary of what I have learned from browsing other sites:

There are also new LoY spelly recipes for 50+ INT caster spells, BUT they like the original recipes, can only be made by the class that uses them... so you cannot use wizzy to make necro spells. Only necros can research necro spells.

Only the new spell recipes that were made available with the LoY release for PRIEST Classes are able to made using research by any int caster class.

Edited, Sat Oct 4 10:18:15 2003
Necro lvl 24 pet research
# Sep 02 2003 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
at lvl 30 i decided to hunt the dwarves on sister isle after killing about 10 cycles of them i got Detachment, allure and another word not related to the haunting corpse spell....they are on a 5 minute spawn and there are 3 of them on the island. only faction lowered is KaladimCitizen and its a very slight reduction they are blue at 30 and are easily fear kited you could prolly do them at around 25 - these are usually really hard words to get thats why i posted =) Good luck and happy hunting
Which quests?
# Aug 25 2003 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
I cant get my skill points into the skill. The GM keeeps saying "You have already reached the limits of this skill." Can someone help me? If that problem isnt figured out can you tell me some low level research quests?


RE: Which quests?
# Sep 04 2003 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
you need to get to lvl 20 =) then the sky is the limit...well 200 is the limit hehe

Edited, Thu Sep 4 21:37:57 2003
WORDS OF COERCION
# Jul 31 2003 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
Where do I find WORDS OF COERCION??? Can't find it anywhere.
Research Help
# Jul 17 2003 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
Level 32 Enchanter working on Research. I cannot find any good information, so I am hoping someone can help. Research seems to have a level cap and I am guessing it goes up 5 points per level gain. I think mine is currently 90. I have bags of pages in the bank, but I do not want to do the combines if I can't get skill points.

What is the level cap for Research? If it is 5 points per level, does the cap relax at level 40 or 50, of is it simply 5 points per level gain?

PLEASE help. (laughing) Thanks so much.
RE: Research Help
# Jul 19 2003 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
The good thing in Research is that it has no 20 skillpoints cap, so you can put as many skillpoints into the skill as you like. That saved me a lot of headaches once I discovered it.
I pooled every skillpoint, that i did not use to activate another skill, into research, and now have 200 in the skill, and an Automated Quill.

A pretty good guide can be found at EQTraders.

Edited, Sat Jul 19 04:18:45 2003
How do gloves of RZ work?
# Jul 13 2003 at 10:56 PM Rating: Default
How do these work? What do you use them with?


Edited, Sun Jul 13 23:48:45 2003
druid spells
# May 23 2003 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Druid spells (and others) can now be researched by pure casters with LoY expansion, but how do you figure out where to find the components? Anyone seen Yaeth's compendium pages or rune of synergy?

Iindarie
Mage Components
# Apr 09 2003 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
Is there a list of where Mage Components can be found off of mobs and vendors and such (i.e.word, pearl shard, gloves of rallos zek, ic eof velious, eyes of serilis, etc.)
LoY new Enchanter Researchable Spells
# Feb 25 2003 at 8:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Some 29 Enchanter spells from lvl 51 to 60 are now Researchable with the LoY expansion. It looks like all the pure caster classes have new research opportunities for existing spells. I've put up all a little bit about the new Enchanter research at

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nigeybabes/enchanter_research.htm

Pages from Yaeth's Compendium have dropped off mobs in PoJ that I am aware of. I hope this is all of some help to people.
Wizards Cannon
# Jan 21 2003 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
i am a 19th lvl wizard i have obtained a wizards cannon and the runes listed. How do i make the runes into the completed spells? I am a member of the Knights of the Phoenix Sun on Luclin sever. Any Help will be greatly appreciated.
RE: Wizards Cannon
# Feb 11 2003 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
You need to place one of each of the runes in a Lexicon (obtainable from several Wizard Guilds) and click the combine button.

This is the procedure you will use for any researched wizard spell.

Keep in mind there are a couple of runes that have the same name but are for different spells.
Words of Coercion
# Jan 18 2003 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
31 Dark Elf Mage here, where you find / make to drop
Words of Coercion?

Thank You,

FROGLOK EYES???
# Jan 05 2003 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Smiley: confused Looking for Froglok eyes, been hunting in Innuthule swamp and have not seen any drop, where might a young mage find them. Any help would be greatful.Smiley: frown
RE: FROGLOK EYES???
# Apr 04 2003 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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They're not especially rare, msaybe like 1 in every 10 frogloks or so. I've seen them drop ff othe frogloks in UGuk and the live frogloks in LGuk.
RE: FROGLOK EYES???
# Feb 11 2003 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
I believe they are an uncommon to rare drop, but I only seem to remember seeing them in Swamp of No Hope for sure.
where to find
# Nov 19 2002 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
where can i find the words of tyranny, i cannot
seem to find it anywhere. i get alot of other
words but not tyranny.
RE: where to find
# Mar 25 2003 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
I had them drop off of a kodiak in West commons and they are frequently sold to the merchant near the druid rings. Also lots of words can be found in the shaman guild of east cabilis.

Cisbeny <Nightwalkers of Norrath>
20th mage
Karana server

Edited, Tue Mar 25 01:18:33 2003
RE: where to find
# Nov 27 2002 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
here is the site you should go to www.magecompendium.com
and it will more than likely be a rare drop. look under research there should be a link to componets there is where you will find what is all needed and where they are. kay adios

Llaman
28th mage
mystical empire
home on bertox
where to find
# Nov 19 2002 at 1:59 AM Rating: Default
Completed Runes
# Oct 18 2002 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
Can anyone please tell me if the completed runes, that you recieve on succesfully combining Azia and Bezia runes(im doing training rune at the moment)are used for anything?

Much appreciated

Gonadian 24th Mage Of Test
RE: Completed Runes
# Nov 27 2002 at 11:18 AM Rating: Default
first thing stop practice reseach and use your skill points. yes they are give them to a wizzy they use those ruins, or for minimum amout of money sell them.

Llaman
28th mage
mystical empire
home on bertox
when should I start combining pages?
# Oct 12 2002 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
I am currently a lvl 20 Enchanter and after finding a number of left and right sides of pages I decided to start skilling up on research.

I know all about the runes and how to get the book to make them (GLS, gypsy camp, etc.) and all that. But I cant seem to find any suggestions on how high I should lvl up on research before I start trying to create my spell scrolls. I'm assuming that the lvl 20 spells will be harder to make than the lvl 16 ones but I cant seem to find any trivial info on either.

The spells Iwill be working on are mesmirazion (of course) lvl 16, berserker strength lvl 20, color shift lvl 20, and endure magic lvl 20 in case this helps.

I have both halves of the pages for most of these already and have only placed 1 point into spell research so far. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Multiresearch
# Sep 10 2002 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
This may seam like a dumb question, but I have to ask. As an enchanter, could I also do practice runes from other classes???
RE: Multiresearch
# Oct 07 2002 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
No. You have to use the book from your class/alignment.
RE: Multiresearch
# Feb 11 2003 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
Just to make sure everyone has this right...

Enchanters MUST use the Tome of Endless Enchantments

Magicians MUST use the Elemental Grimoire

Wizards MUST use the Lexicon

Necromancers MUST use the Book of Dark Bindings

AND

Each of the above combine containers can only combine components to make spells of the corresponding class.

Did I restate that correctly?
RE: Multiresearch
# Sep 02 2003 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
but what if an enchanter had a necro book and the corresponding words for a necro spell.....could she still click combine and get results?
Help with Research
# Aug 24 2002 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
I have a level 18 Dark Elf Necromancer and I put a point into research at level 16, boosting my skill to 16. I then set about doing the Concordance Quest and making the training runes, only to find that my skill didn't go up. Puzzled, I went to the trainer and tried to put points in but was told that I'd maxed out the skill for the moment. I went away then and came back at level 18, hoping that my higher level would mean I could raise the skill one way or another, but both methods still failed. When am I allowed to increase this skill again? Level 20?
RE: Help with Research
# Aug 30 2002 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
The formula for calculating your research skill is as follows: Your level minus 15 multiplied by 5. In other words at level 18 it would be 18 - 15=3, 3 * 5= 15. But when you first purchase a point in a skill that requires a certain level to be obtained, your skill automatically becomes whatever level that was required to purchase it. Ex: Spell Research requires level 16 to buy it, but at level 16 your skill cap is 5, so after you get your first point in it you cannot increase it until level 19 when you can increase it to 20. 19-15=4, 4*5=20. I hope this clears up all of the confusion :)
Mezmerization
# May 07 2002 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
Where are the pages for this spell? My friend has looked everywhere for them.
RE: Mezmerization
# Jun 22 2003 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
I too would like to know where these Tasarin pages are found. Have searched practicly everywhere.
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