The Erudite

race logoThe Erudite starts off in either Erudin or Paineel on the Continent of Odus. In either city, Tox forest is available as a newbie hunting ground. What is the best strategy for playing a good Erudite? What is the best strategy for playing an evil Heretic Erudite? What zones and cities should you take him to and which ones should you avoid? Which factions should you work on improving, and which factions should you be wary of decreasing? Is there a way to develop anough faction to be accepted in the good cities? What are the best quests in Erudin or Paineel for the beginning Erudite? Where are the best shops? How should you role play your Erudite?

Post your strategies on how to best play a Erudite, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
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Just a Question...
# Feb 24 2007 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
This is quite off-topic but... What's the story behind the huge foreheads on these guys?
follow the whisper
# Apr 20 2006 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
ne1 know where the port authority is? i need to get my ldon, wayfarer whisper...
Head grapic
# Nov 25 2004 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know how to remove the cloth head grapic on the Erudites? Or how to change the color of it if we can't remove it? I have tried to "dye" it, but it wont work. Or is there a head item that removes the cloth wrap?

# Nov 24 2004 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm a High Elf. I wear Netted Kelp Tunic. You can see what tunics are available using Equipment - By Slot - Chest - restrict to Wizard.
tunic for erudin wizzis
# Feb 18 2004 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Hiya :) Did someone know if there is a "good" tunic for wizards?? I am bored to wear this robes all the time. Have a lvl 61 Wizzi with the robe of haunted dreams (which looks like the low lvl robe.....forgot the name) :P white scaled tunic looks very nice one my female erudin....but the stats....... :(
# Jan 21 2004 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
Yes there is an easy way to leave odus. You can use the spires on the paineel side of the river. just turn right when you leave paineel follow the zone edge untill you see the spires to your left talk to the npc she well give you a gem then wait after 15 mins or less youwill zone to the nexus from there you can go where ever you want. good luck:)

Edited, Wed Jan 21 20:03:50 2004
# Jul 14 2005 at 2:47 PM Rating: Default
He's referring to the Discord server which had Old World only zones. For anybody still curious you can take the boat in Erudin to Qeynos. If you're from Paineel I'd suggest waiting until you're high enough to invis and then invis your way through Erudin to reach the boat.
# Sep 26 2005 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
SK's can't invis until 30. :D Bertoxxulous help anyone who has to level to 30 on Odus. They get Sneak, though, although I'm not sure what level.
PrePoP Evil Erudite Leave Odus
# Dec 23 2003 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
Is there anyway for a pre-planes of power evil Erudite to leave Odus?

Im on the discord server and without a PoK book I dont know how to get my erudite SK off Odus without running thru Erudin. Please help.
Erudite Paly
# Sep 26 2003 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a Erudite Paladin on the Drinal server. I have played many erudian characters before but never stuck with them. I like my paly however, I've noticed some things about us Eruds. We have low ac. Very low, like 2ac to start with. Which makes us exceptionally vunrable to even newbie mobs. I had a hard time getting to lvl 5. I only have some cloth armor on me. I ran into a nice Froglok who gave me a tenticle whip. Then a Iksar warrior who gave me two shadwoscream steel bracers. My ac is still lacking though. Our newbie zone isn't that great for hunting in either. Its always empty and the stupid emissary's are walking around killing everything. Anyways, I'm not going to give up on this character. I'm currently in Gfay trying to level up since its more populated there. Hope to get a group or find a hunting partner.

Edited, Fri Sep 26 20:03:18 2003
RE: Erudite Paly
# Mar 25 2004 at 7:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Erudite Pally, gotta admire that, my Erud mage struggled with the ac, (till her alt got her a pile of CB belts to get her to pet level). but two ac for a pally I cry for you.
I asume you took this toon on for a challenge as the main attribute for an Erudin is their Uber INT, the last attribute a pally need is.....well INT. Goodluck hope you stick with it.
RE: Erudite Paly
# Sep 26 2005 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
It's the low AGI that hurts AC. If it's below 75 then you take a substantial drop in AC at early levels. I remember starting an Erudite caster once and it had an AC of ZERO! If you're not twinking, and you're starting an Erudite, put some of those skill points into AGI no matter WHAT your class, at least get it to 76.
I need tips
# Aug 27 2003 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
I just started an Erudite Shadownight! And it seems like there aren't very many at all. Can anyone tell me where I would be KOS at and give me some tips on it.
RE: I need tips
# Feb 07 2004 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
you aren't KOS in Ak'Anon, nor are you in Neriak, as far as Oggok though prolly are due to race.
RE: I need tips
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
You are KOS in Erduin, Greater Faydark, ButcherBlock, Qeynos and maybe Al Akon. In Freeport you are KOS in North Freeport. You may even be KOS in Nierik and Ogglok due to your race.
Erudian Cleric
# Jul 10 2003 at 12:05 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, here goes, I've a Cleric,<lvl 32> she is awesome, like me, in the real world; she loves to help others. I don't play with another Class. We are helpers / assisters. Not fighters..........UNLESS we must fight. [Like that'll do alot of justice]. Run, gate or zone, Yeah! If the heat gets too hot, I'll shout warnings, let you know what me situation is & "jet". There are only a few in EQ that I will DIE trying to save from death. Could you be one of the few, the proud, the "One" ?? I'll rez u first.

I Do live with the "Paladin" attitude : "Do Your BEST to leave NO male / female behind". Now, "Carry On .....Soldier"!!!!!!!! :))

Question is as follows: Pray tell, Where do I find the "Temperance" spell?
newbie query
# Jun 16 2003 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
As an agnostic newbie Erudite wizard, where would I be KOS, provided I've never muffed up my faction with anyone....Just in evil cities, or do I just need to con as I go? (I know I should get in that habit anyway, but I'm scared to go anywhere except right off of the Erudin porch in Tox Forest right now) There not currently being a newbie armor quest for my race/class, I'd like to at least make some pp, and the loot I've come across so far leaves me...shall we say "underwhelmed"?
RE: newbie query
# Aug 11 2003 at 3:36 PM Rating: Default

You better quit before you become some 50 year old geek who still lives in his mom's basement and strips in a retirement home to pay for the monthly fee, unless your already at that point. If so I advise you to get off that 70 year old woman and find a job.
RE: newbie query
# Jul 23 2003 at 3:42 PM Rating: Excellent
I've taken my Agnostic Erudite Mage to Greater Faydark, Quenos, Western and Northern Karana without problems. I also entered the "Evil" city Paineel and the newbie hole there without KOS from anyone. However, some of the merchants in Queynos and Karana wouldn't deal with me due to my race.

Haven't tried others yet.

BTW: we now have an Erudin caster's newbie armor set of quests, still working on those (see Bracer of the Craft Keeper, etc). Seems like we will need to do some travelling, since our main item required (Woven Spider Silk) is unavailable on Toxxulia, I'm hoping to find some on the spiders in Greater Faydark and Lesser Faydark. If you don't have PoP, I guess you're out of luck...
Armor look vs. robe ...
# Apr 17 2003 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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For those who would prefer a different look to that of a robe, may I suggest the chest/leg combo I have -- it's cheap and can be found fairly often at the bazaar; have even seen the tunic in Erudin once as well. However, I have to whine a little at the "ballet slipper" look that a lot of boots project on an Erudite, lol -- and let's not EVEN discuss the color choices!
Besides, this combo gives more AC protection + bonus stats than most newbie robes I've seen.

Sue (Emmage Inpeace)

aka: Sueranger Dangerscout) (Natura Matura) (Stargrace Windsonnet) (Trueblue Monkybunny) (Rosieda Ribbetterr) (Igloosue)
# Apr 17 2003 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
I am lvl 14 necro can I hunt in pc yet or where would be a good option
RE: necro
# Apr 25 2003 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
You can hunt in PC - but generally not solo. Go up the ramp and hunt the aliens or shrooms. Take a group with you.
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 25 2003 at 1:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let me tell you about an idea i had one day. I was running through Grater faydark and i had accedently attacked a nexus at the wizzy spires. Needless to say that i was killed Instantly. I was extreamly mad because i lost my exp. Through my hatered i studied the creature and i devised the most extravagant scheme ever. I was wondering if my fellow Citizens of norrath would aid me. Darkies and Lighties come together in a mass horde to take one down. "What's in it for me" a person might ask. Well i think that not only the feeling you get from uniting with all of the inhabitants of norrath to squash a common evil but a great possibilty of an uber pay off and Extream exp or maybe nothing just a cold hard defeat.I am not really sure if they drop anything or if they even give exp.They are most likely the least killed Npc in the game. I have heard of one or two being killed but to my knowlage no loot has ever been identified. There are only a couple of reasons why i have not been able to find the loot items either 1. The uber guild who took one down came up with an awsome item that they dont want to get nerfed because of 1000000 crying lowbies saying its too powerfull so they did not add it to new item lists 2. None of them have ever been killed 3. Normal Loot for lvl of mob 4. No loot :( Now i am not really sure yet of the master plan but i am thinking along the lines of a massive head on attack group attack at random with no aperant stratagey.A person could even make a mule char and lvl to 5 or 6 toe just for this battle.Toe to Toe with the Unchecked Evil of the world. Or i have got a more methodical aproach. Either way i could be just stupid or really tired but that is my idea and i am willing to set up shop on any server. e-mail me at massive_nexus_strike@YHAOO.COM if you have any ideas, you want to join (( lvl is of no importance 1-65 doesnt matter Class either warriors clerics shaman monks i am in need of warm bodies :) )) or you just want to flame about how stupid i am either way i will welcome your emails and i will try my very best to email you back .No matter what it says. More information on nexus is always welcome. E-mail me and give it a chance.
The Story of Odus - Bristlebane
# Feb 10 2003 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
On the Bristlebane Server, there is a guild that claims all rights to govern Odus. It is an Erudite-only roleplaying affiliation called the High Keepers of Odus.

On the Bristlebane Server, Odus has a story.

Yes, recently the Story of Odus has been written, which tells the background history of Odus and the High Keepers of Odus, its (former) army the Foreign Legion of Odus, and the men who made it that way.

It is a wonderful tale filled with magic, prose, poetry, and most importantly, Erudites.

View it at
It can be found under the "News" category.

-Gallius of the Gatecallers
Emperor of Odus, Bristlebane Server
"I refuse to engage in a battle of the wits with an unarmed man."
# Feb 03 2003 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
I am a Eurodite Enchanter. I have a yellow robe, shoes, and that's about it. Do I eventually get armour? Do I need armour? Also, when I tried buying a short sword, it told me that it wasn't the right weapon for my class - all I have is a small dagger and keep getting my butt kicked. HELP :)

Also, is there a spell that can morph me from one place to another? It's a pain waiting for the ships to port, and as I said above - I keep getting my butt kicked by things. I'm at lvl 4, close to 5. Have been playing for about 2 weeks.
RE: Eurodite/Enchanter
# Dec 03 2003 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
Start going to the Bazaar in Luclin, you can buy some magic robes and stuff fairly cheap at times.
# Jan 31 2003 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
Hi all. I play an Erudite Necromancer and was reading over these posts. I saw nothing about necromancers here, so i fugred id throw in my two cp. I will include the leveling areas that i went to in order to level rather quickly.

Levels 1 - 4 : Stay in the Paineel Newbie zone, it is not bad exp, and you can loot Plague Rat Tails off of the rats and sell them for about 1pp (Nice For Newbie Spells)

Levels 4 - 8 : Go to Toxxulia. If you go to the right towards the wizard spires you will run into a 4 spawn Kobold camp. I stayed here through level 8, watch out for the Shaman he will slow your pet, kill him first. Sure, its no tthe BEST exp, but there is nice money and it gives you a chance to experiment with your character.

Levels 8 - 12 : Go to the Field Of Bone. I know it is an evil city, but if you watch your butt you should be ok. Hunt Giant Scorpions in the pit, and anything else that cons well. You will hit level 12 before you know it.

Levels 12 - 16 : Go to Kurn's Tower. It is on the opposing side of the pit in the Field Of Bone, on the edge of the pit. You cant miss it. Fight Greater Skeletons, the experience in there is awesome, even good grouped. If you are really brave, you can go down to the Burynai area. You will need a group for sure to do this.

Levels 16 - 24 : Go to Paludal Caverns on Luclin. Your level 16 pet can tank Patog Fiends if they come only one at a time. The experience off of these dies out at level 18 or so. At this time try to get a group at one of the Recondite Camps. People will usually accept you and the experince will go rather quickly.

Levels 24 - 29 : Go to High Hold Keep. You will be KOS, so put on Gather Shadows before going down to the camps. The experience is very fast in here. You will be level 29 in 2 days. Until level 27 stay at the Guard Room (GR). At level 27 try to get a Warrior Room (WR) group until level 29. You will have no need to do much in these groups, the mobs die very quickly and your spells will not help much so just use your pet and make sure he stays buffed.

Levels 29 - 34 : Go to The Overthere and fear kite at the Skyfire zone. Watch out for Tigers as they will kill you, but everything else is relatively easy to kill. You should be able to sell and bank at the Dark Elf Outpost. You can take Red cons here IF you know how to fear kite effectively.

Levels 34 - 39 : Go to The Great Divide and fear kite by the Eastern Wastes zoneline. Kill Frost Giant Scouts and Drakkel Dire Wolves for the best EXP. It will go by fast, and you will get some nice items doing this, so it is profitable in more ways than one. Kill Drakkel Blood Wolves on the off chance that you see them. They drop the MQ for a nice legging quest.

Levels 39 - 44 : Go to The Mines Of Nurga. The experience there is AWESOME and easy soloable to a necromancer if you go to the right places. You will figure it out quickly as did I and keep the Green Goblin Skins and Mt. Death Mineral Salts that drop! They sell for 60pp a piece in bazaar on Torvonilous Server. I went up as a trader and sold one levels worth of Salts / Skins and made 2.6k.

Levels 44 - 46 : Go to The Dreadlands, fear kite by Karnor's Castle. Watch out for the Spiders they make for difficult kills. They have Damage Shields (12 pt.), nuke, and root. I would guess they are Druids judging by their Damage Shields, the type of nukes, and the fact that their roots do Damage, however they could be Rangers as well.

Levels 46 - 49 : I am currently level 46, and doing the Spirocs in Timorous Deep. They are awesome experience and easy kills. I am doing this until level 49. I will let ya know when I get past this place and tell ya where to go next.

Well thats it, hope I helped. Good luck to ya!

Edited, Fri Jan 31 18:00:56 2003
# Dec 17 2002 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
Hey yall eq was in the news (specifically cnn). They were doing a show on fantasy worlds (ie. harry potter and lord of the rinds) and stated that eq was the largest fantasy world or something like that. they brought up the mage/wizzy pic from pop.

that is it figured i would catch yall up on it, don't know how many actual caught it. but oh well now yall know.

32 mage
mystical empire
home on bertox
Evil Erudite Clerics
# Nov 14 2002 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
I think that I just like to go for the "off the beaten path" type of characters, So I made an Evil Erudite Cleric. First thing, let me say that the Newbie Armor Quest for this character is the coolest of any I've seen. The armor is jet black with very subtle maroon highlights. The Vambraces make you look like an Uber 65 because of the awesome shoulders. Very cool armor: I get highbees asking to inspect me all the time on their way to the Hole!!! hehe

I do have some questions, though. I've never made a Cleric before and am wondering what areas would be good to graduate to after reaching the 19th spell circle. I think I'll be ready to get the hell out of the Warrens at that point, but because I'm evil, I'll have difficulty trading, etc. I'm used to the evil char thing, but what is the best area for clerics given their penchant for killing undead mobs?

Giant Skellys, Kunark
# Nov 14 2002 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
The Giants Skeletons in Rathe Mtns are an exp dream in the 20-25 range. There's also a haunted tower that a great place to hunt. Unfortunetely, it's a FAR way from any towns friendly to you, as you won't be welcome in Oggok or Grobb. You can sell at the gypsies in Lake Rathe though, and buy food and drink.

After that, there's Kunark. You should be welcome at the Evil Outpost on OT, and good or evil, everyone will want you in their group. That'll get you to high 30's. Then the Dreadlands. You can solo the skellies at the combine ruins if you like, but getting a group should be a snap.
You'll probably find you have more luck grouping than trying to solo though. You die a lot less in a group :)
# Nov 09 2002 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
do erudites make good SK's
RE: help
# Dec 17 2002 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
think of this, is the str. good enough to hit constently high. you really got to think that the erudits generally hate physical work. that is why they are called the high men (intell indicates that), so i would say no.

32 mage(erudite)
mystical empire
home on bertox
# Oct 31 2002 at 1:18 AM Rating: Default
Personally when i think Erudite i think Frasier Crane.
Rp erudite
# Sep 29 2002 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
I am an erudite mage that tried to do the right thing and use the toxxulia forrest as starting zone, and I follow quellious. As a mage, I feel we have to have groups, since we cant take a hit well. Oh, on a side note, Erudite paladins are the toughest around, they cannot die it seems, I saw an erudite paladin in the warrens at 12, 5 kobolds on him 3 guards, 2 scouts and he just did not die. As a follower of Quellious, I see the search for inner enlightenment as comprable to the selfishness ideal that is represented in Innoruk. Since we will spend our time researching and learning things to the exclusion of all else. Evil races tend to like this aspect it seems and if you are grouped and you teach them a language, they are gratefull and may offer the occasional nice piece of armor to sell. Summoning bandages is always a plus for them. I suppose you can be snooty, but Erudites are also the pinnacle of social grace, so I think the ability to "converse" as it were, with all races is a plus and if you are excruciatingly polite, it tends to show. Also, Erudites always trade. If someone offers you something you must offer something in return (Gatecallers)summoned items or otherwise or coin. The fact that there really is no “newbie” armor for Erudite casters is, well, ok because it trains you how to battle and it trains the people you are grouped with to try to help you. Also, Erudite casters must learn to take a hit sometimes, you can be snooty afterwards, but being selfish and not talking to anybody while the battle has ended and you are binding your wounds until 50 health is a nice characteristic. But your grace will show when you cast flame shield on the medding group members without being asked, and you’re in a dingeon, as if to protect them the only way you know how.
# Sep 14 2002 at 1:26 AM Rating: Decent
where doo i start mai erudite pally epic?...just wanna knoe early...
The RP'ed Erudite (help!)
# Sep 05 2002 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent
After playing EQ for... well... a long time, i decided to join a couple of friends that are starting to play on the FV server. I want to do a good job with role-play, and would like the advice of others on how to go about it.

As i understand it, Erudites are supposed to be superior, snooty, and condescending, generally speaking. However, i doubt all races would be treated exactly the same, nor would Erudites be obnoxious to the point of totally alienating everyine else... they're smart enough (one would hope,) to know that would not he a bright thing to do.

I do think my enchanter would be more tolerant than some Erudites, as he IS a follower of Quellious, the Tranquil. Therefore, he by definition would be s seeker of knowledge, and prone to travel, as indicated by the "book" definition of a Quellious worshipper. But i'm still curious about how he should act race-relation wise.

Some are easy calls... Ogres, Trolls, and Iksar would be KOS if possible, and if not, there would certainly never be found a kind word passing between them and an Erudite

Teir'dal though, due to their studies of "pure" magic arts (wizards, mages, and enchanters,) might be tolerated as a useful source of information / source of learning.

Barbarians... my gut says unwashed heathen, and conversation would be just cordial enough to avoid having one's arm pulled off.

Humans, especially mage-classes, would probably be the race to which we'd have the most condescending attitude. I'm thinking, "Oh, a human wizard... how quaint."

High Elves, i believe would be treated as intellectual and magical equals... though the High Elves might not think of us as being THEIR equals, from a societal standpoint.

But what of Dwarves, Wood Elves, Half-elves, Gnomes, and Kerrans? Here, i'm stumped.

Does anyone have any advice on how i might act towards ANY of these races? While i may have some opinions on how Erudites may relate to a race, i'm very much interested in conflicting opinions.
RE: The RP'ed Erudite (help!)
# Sep 05 2002 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
In the Library of the High Keepers of Odus, , there is an article entitled "An Objective Glance at the Races of Norrath." This fully outlines the basics of Erudian attitudes towards all the other races. For your RP'ed attitudes towards these, take a look at the article.

With the exception of Kerrans, so I will outline that here. When the Erudites finally arrived on Odus, the Vah Shir were running a large Empire that extended all across the continent and into various island chains to the south and east. As Erud and his followers began to build Erudin and introduce civilisation to the area, the Vah Shir resisted. The ensuing conflict lasted for ages, eventually ending (ironically) during the Erudite Civil War. The Vah Shir capital city was relocated to Luclin and the remaining Vah Shir, loyal to King Vah Kerrath (hence "Kerrans"), were rounded up and forcibly moved to Kerra Isle to the west of Odus.

In short, due to the legendary conflict, Kerrans and Vah Shir are looked upon as vile scum, no better if not worse than a lowly Kobold, and meritirious of nothing other than death. I hope this helps.

When in doubt, just remember you are an Erudite- look down on everyone.

Edited, Thu Sep 5 21:24:47 2002
newbie wiz equip
# Jul 30 2002 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
anyone have an idea when us erudite wizzies will get their fair share of newbie equip. even though i am higher level some of the stuff in other races isnt too bad
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