Ever wondered how our race stood against all others?
Str Sta Agi Dex
Ogre 130 Ogre 122 Halfling 95 Dwarf 90
Troll 108 Troll 119 Wood Elf 95 Halfling 90
Barbarian 103 Barbarian 95 Iksar 90 Gnome 85
Vah Shir 90 Dwarf 90 Vah Shir 90 Half Elf 85
Dwarf 90 Vah Shir 75 Half Elf 90 Iksar 85
Human 75 Human 75 Dark Elf 90 Wood Elf 80
Halfling 70 Halfling 75 High Elf 85 Human 75
Half Elf 70 Half Elf 70 Gnome 85 Troll 75
Iksar 70 Iksar 70 Troll 83 Dark Elf 75
Wood Elf 65 Gnome 70 Barbarian 82 Barbarian 70
Erudite 60 Erudite 70 Human 75 High Elf 70
Gnome 60 High Elf 65 Ogre 70 Erudite 70
Dark Elf 60 Dark Elf 65 Erudite 70 Vah Shir 70
High Elf 55 Wood Elf 65 Dwarf 70 Ogre 70
Wis Int Cha
High Elf 95 Erudite 107 High Elf 80
Dark Elf 83 Dark Elf 99 Human 75
Erudite 83 Gnome 98 Wood Elf 75
Dwarf 83 High Elf 92 Half Elf 75
Iksar 80 Iksar 75 Erudite 70
Halfling 80 Human 75 Vah Shir 65
Wood Elf 80 Wood Elf 75 Dark Elf 60
Human 75 Half Elf 75 Gnome 60
Vah Shir 70 Halfling 67 Iksar 55
Barbarian 70 Vah Shir 65 Barbarian 55
Ogre 67 Troll 62 Halfling 50
Gnome 67 Ogre 60 Dwarf 45
Half Elf 60 Dwarf 60 Troll 40
Troll 50 Barbarian 60 Ogre 37
(I hope this came out how it should have when I copied and pasted it, I apologize in advance if it gets screwed up)
Which means here that Iksars Rank
Strength: 6th | Stamina: 6th | Agility: 2nd | Dexterity: 2nd | Wisdom: 3rd | Intellegence: 5th | Charisma: 6th
Although our fighting stats eqaul that of a Wood Elf exactly, we are still better then Humans happy to say >)
Compare your stats on this chart =)
The Iksar
 | The Iksar starts off in Cabilis in the continent of Kunark. Iksar are killed on sight by every other race in Norrath. What is the best strategy for playing a Iksar? What zones and cities should you take him to and which ones should you avoid? Which factions should you work on improving, and which factions should you be wary of decreasing? How can you safely play your Iksar beyond Kunark? What are the best quests for the beginning Iksar? Where are the best shops? How should you role play your Iksar?
Post your strategies on how to best play a Iksar, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others. |
Scholar
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Scholar
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BTW, if you cant really read it, meesed up like I said, just look at it like this
Str Sta Agi Dex
Ogre 130 Ogre 122 Halfling 95 Dwarf 90
Which is
Str | Sta | Agi | Dex |
Ogre 130 | Ogre 122 | Halfling 95 | Dwarf 90 |
It was tabed, but the post doesn't let Tabulator work on these posts
Str Sta Agi Dex
Ogre 130 Ogre 122 Halfling 95 Dwarf 90
Which is
Str | Sta | Agi | Dex |
Ogre 130 | Ogre 122 | Halfling 95 | Dwarf 90 |
It was tabed, but the post doesn't let Tabulator work on these posts
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Hi folks i wnana talk about the iksar shaman. First of all Shaman iksar make the best shamans. Why? , They have great stats. high wis good dex str are good too. and they have that nice AC they start with. and with that rgen they can caniblize like mad. and so what if you cant go to many citys since PoP came out u can go anywhere. te nexus i good to and the bazaar. AND Cabilis (wich I think is one of te best citys in the game) is a great city to start out in. So if your thinkin about maken a shaman, think about iksar shamans and how good they are
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/OOC
I've read alot of these posts and think they are great. Alot of people here seem to know what they are talking about so I come to them with my conflict. I obviously want to be the great Iksar race.I can't decide if I want to be a necromancer or shadownight. I've tried both the classes and they are both great. Could someone please tell me the pros and cons for each class it would be greatly appreciated.
I've read alot of these posts and think they are great. Alot of people here seem to know what they are talking about so I come to them with my conflict. I obviously want to be the great Iksar race.I can't decide if I want to be a necromancer or shadownight. I've tried both the classes and they are both great. Could someone please tell me the pros and cons for each class it would be greatly appreciated.
Hmm, you bring up a difficult subject, and ultimately your decision will depend on your personal preferences.
For an Iksar Necromancer, there are a lot of difficulties that must be surmounted. First and foremost, our starting intelligence is rather low, and it takes a lot of time and effort to increase it. Fortunately, Verant decided to make some rather sweet iksar necro only items (then again, they denied us flayed skin armor, sigh).
For the shadowknight, you are awesome. You can choose to balance out your knight for either physical combat or for spellcasting, depending on how you distribute your ability points. Essentially, however, the Iksar shadowknight is the highest of all the shadowknights. Simply, you have the ability to take on either a casting or a fighting roll (and do well in both), and your inherent regeneration is also beneficial. No other SK race can touch you in your versatility.
Thus, I suppose I would have to recommend the shadowknight class to you over that of necromancer. The Brood of Kotiz is a difficult task, and should not be taken on by those who have doubts as to their loyalty.
For an Iksar Necromancer, there are a lot of difficulties that must be surmounted. First and foremost, our starting intelligence is rather low, and it takes a lot of time and effort to increase it. Fortunately, Verant decided to make some rather sweet iksar necro only items (then again, they denied us flayed skin armor, sigh).
For the shadowknight, you are awesome. You can choose to balance out your knight for either physical combat or for spellcasting, depending on how you distribute your ability points. Essentially, however, the Iksar shadowknight is the highest of all the shadowknights. Simply, you have the ability to take on either a casting or a fighting roll (and do well in both), and your inherent regeneration is also beneficial. No other SK race can touch you in your versatility.
Thus, I suppose I would have to recommend the shadowknight class to you over that of necromancer. The Brood of Kotiz is a difficult task, and should not be taken on by those who have doubts as to their loyalty.
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Greetings brothers and sisters of the brood!
Upon my induction unto the Brood of Kotiz I was instructed by my superiors to travel far and wide to discover useful information on the lesser races. As a result of this I was supremely unfortuante not to be able to spend much time in our glorious city of New Sebelis...although my duties have allowed me to return from time to time, I remain ignorent of the trials (and rewards) a new member of the brood must endure...now..Cazic-thule has chosen me to serve in a new incarnation (on a newly discovered server-plane known as Venril Sathir) and i will be re-apprenticed to the Brood of Kotiz with no help from other higher-leveled memebrs to assist my development...while this leads to supreme oppertunities for me to explore and meet new allies (and food animals, experimental subjects etc) I will ave to surivive the trials of Cabalis and its surroundings...to this end I petition for advice from you my fellows, as to which Quests, Hunting grounds, equipment etc. would be benificial to me...bearing in mind the new (some would say unspoiled) nature of the server-plane in which i shall be reincarnated.
Yours in Servitude
Brokentooth, Servernt of the Brood of Kotiz
Upon my induction unto the Brood of Kotiz I was instructed by my superiors to travel far and wide to discover useful information on the lesser races. As a result of this I was supremely unfortuante not to be able to spend much time in our glorious city of New Sebelis...although my duties have allowed me to return from time to time, I remain ignorent of the trials (and rewards) a new member of the brood must endure...now..Cazic-thule has chosen me to serve in a new incarnation (on a newly discovered server-plane known as Venril Sathir) and i will be re-apprenticed to the Brood of Kotiz with no help from other higher-leveled memebrs to assist my development...while this leads to supreme oppertunities for me to explore and meet new allies (and food animals, experimental subjects etc) I will ave to surivive the trials of Cabalis and its surroundings...to this end I petition for advice from you my fellows, as to which Quests, Hunting grounds, equipment etc. would be benificial to me...bearing in mind the new (some would say unspoiled) nature of the server-plane in which i shall be reincarnated.
Yours in Servitude
Brokentooth, Servernt of the Brood of Kotiz
Though not one normally advocating off continent travel (afterall, Kunark itself can see you from level 1 to 65 with little trouble), given your current level, I would recommend you make a trip to the moon and visit the caverns of Paludal. There are many opportunities for a skilled necromancer, but a warning, do not venture forth farther than the recondite bandit outpost unless you have the handy cure disease spell. If you are fortunate to get a group at the entrance of the caverns hunting the bandits stationed there (next to shadowhaven) you can easily go from 17 to 25 in a single day (6 hours or so of play, with a decent group). Also, the drops for that level, if you are not a "twink", bring in some extra money.
After that, I would suggest the Netherbian Lair (cautiously) and then Dawnshroud peaks (this to level 36 or so). After this time on the moon, head back to the Overthere on Kunark and hunt till level 40 or 41. At that time, head to Dreadlands.
If, however, you wish to be more adventurous, I would also recommend exploring Kaesora (remember, these exploratory suggestions are best done in a group with a shadow knight, scum that they are), the Temple of Droga, the Mines of Nurga (a place I have not visited, though I hear it is quite exciting, and there are some nice Iksar Necro drops), and Dalnir.
Truly, I do not recommend you travel to the other continents of Norrath, unless of course you wish to go to Kerra Isle and hunt some furry cats (always a good time there, and you can do it at level 17).
With regards,
After that, I would suggest the Netherbian Lair (cautiously) and then Dawnshroud peaks (this to level 36 or so). After this time on the moon, head back to the Overthere on Kunark and hunt till level 40 or 41. At that time, head to Dreadlands.
If, however, you wish to be more adventurous, I would also recommend exploring Kaesora (remember, these exploratory suggestions are best done in a group with a shadow knight, scum that they are), the Temple of Droga, the Mines of Nurga (a place I have not visited, though I hear it is quite exciting, and there are some nice Iksar Necro drops), and Dalnir.
Truly, I do not recommend you travel to the other continents of Norrath, unless of course you wish to go to Kerra Isle and hunt some furry cats (always a good time there, and you can do it at level 17).
With regards,
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Ahh thank ye for your timely reply Queen Usula....although the information you gave wasnt quite what I was looking for (entirely my fault for not being sufficantly clear in my post) *drums claws on table as he properly composes his thoughts* welll..as a new spprentice to the brood if kotiz i will of course be starting in Western Cabalis and im interested in what(if any) quests/items there (and its surounding environs...Field of Bone, Kurns Tower etc) would be of use to a Necromancer such as myself...since i will be playing on a wholey new server, theyre will be no high levels, no 'twinking', no working ecconomy as such...since I will be attempting to rapidly level asap (and here i thank ye for your advice in that regard - some places I hadnt thought of you suggest :) )- the equipment i take with me when I choose to leave Kurnark - most likely around levels 8-12 - will be with me for some time before I decide to hunt out better (or the economy develops to such a point as i can buy some), thus..I wish to be as ready as possible when I do leave....Curscale armour seems the only viable equipment i can find (not really on par witha any of the other races starting quests, but then again, such 'newbie-armour' is more duited to there decedant livestyles..) still...as a semi-acomplished memeber of the brood on other servers I have learned to rely only on the gifts cazic-thule has given me...Again thank ye most kind for your response :)
Yours in Servitude
Brokentooth
Edited, Sat Nov 9 22:54:54 2002
Yours in Servitude
Brokentooth
Edited, Sat Nov 9 22:54:54 2002
Hmm, put that way, I would say that very little would be of interest for you in or around Cabilis. You may wish to pursue the Necromancer Skullcap quests, though they are tedious and the actual reward is less than excellent. It is, however, a status symbol, and I hear the final skullcap is rather nice, though admittedly I did not have the patience to pursue it properly.
From simply an equipment standpoint though, it isn't difficult to get the first two skullcaps, and then get the curescale armor (also no challenge for one of the Brood). After that, the only valuable thing you can collect around Cabilis is bone chips, and Kurn's Tower provides a nice supply.
May you bring a wave of Fear through Norrath.
From simply an equipment standpoint though, it isn't difficult to get the first two skullcaps, and then get the curescale armor (also no challenge for one of the Brood). After that, the only valuable thing you can collect around Cabilis is bone chips, and Kurn's Tower provides a nice supply.
May you bring a wave of Fear through Norrath.
You have become better at Roleplaying! (30)
Wow...
It does my heart good to know that there are people out there who still roleplay. I went to about all the servers I could find that I had any interest in playing on. Nothing. Very few people roleplay, even on FV.
I have an Iksar Monk, and this is how I roleplay him:
Strong, capable, and knowledgeable of his abilities. Rarely but occasionally overestimates an enemy, or possibly underestimates himself. Not known to take many chances, he will duck for cover rather than take on an opponent who may very well defeat him. However, if a friend is in trouble, he will risk his life for them.
Part of this is based on wisdom from Terry Goodkind:
There is no evil. Only people who truly believe in the wrong thing.
Something like that. You'd think an "evil" guy wouldn't risk his life for someone. But you will see that time and time again, they will. Unless it's Osama.
Wow...
It does my heart good to know that there are people out there who still roleplay. I went to about all the servers I could find that I had any interest in playing on. Nothing. Very few people roleplay, even on FV.
I have an Iksar Monk, and this is how I roleplay him:
Strong, capable, and knowledgeable of his abilities. Rarely but occasionally overestimates an enemy, or possibly underestimates himself. Not known to take many chances, he will duck for cover rather than take on an opponent who may very well defeat him. However, if a friend is in trouble, he will risk his life for them.
Part of this is based on wisdom from Terry Goodkind:
There is no evil. Only people who truly believe in the wrong thing.
Something like that. You'd think an "evil" guy wouldn't risk his life for someone. But you will see that time and time again, they will. Unless it's Osama.
Just a small suggestion, with regards to rping your character. If you go to the user journals and read the one by Parttime, his stories are not only very well written, but his paradigm on Iksar philosophy is absolutely outstanding!
Lord Xabr,
Your private correspondence has finally reached my desk, though the punishing of the messenger was delightfully enjoyable as I have never seen quite an expression of terror on a creature's face before, and regret having to respond to you so late after the fact.
You wonder my interest in you, and I assure you, my interest is merely to serve the interests of the Brood of Kotiz and the New Sebilisian Empire. The Nihilists report to me directly of your progress these days, commenting that you are only the second of the Brood in many years to have progressed so far in the acquisition of the ranking skullcaps.
Alone, this may not necessarily warrent my personal attention, but I sense a shadow vortex surrounding you, a mystery, and I dispise mysteries. You will play a role in Cabilis, though I have not determined yet if that role will be in service. As such, I will be setting forth challenges to subtly train your mind and hone your skills. I will be lurking in your shadow, dear broodling, and strike at you when you are most vulnerable. This is your test of fire.
I will say no more on the subject until such a time as you are ready, and I have not tempered you enough at this time.
With interest,
Your private correspondence has finally reached my desk, though the punishing of the messenger was delightfully enjoyable as I have never seen quite an expression of terror on a creature's face before, and regret having to respond to you so late after the fact.
You wonder my interest in you, and I assure you, my interest is merely to serve the interests of the Brood of Kotiz and the New Sebilisian Empire. The Nihilists report to me directly of your progress these days, commenting that you are only the second of the Brood in many years to have progressed so far in the acquisition of the ranking skullcaps.
Alone, this may not necessarily warrent my personal attention, but I sense a shadow vortex surrounding you, a mystery, and I dispise mysteries. You will play a role in Cabilis, though I have not determined yet if that role will be in service. As such, I will be setting forth challenges to subtly train your mind and hone your skills. I will be lurking in your shadow, dear broodling, and strike at you when you are most vulnerable. This is your test of fire.
I will say no more on the subject until such a time as you are ready, and I have not tempered you enough at this time.
With interest,
My lord Xabr, New Reverant of the Brood of Kotiz,
Though I have been long away on personal meditations, I have returned, only to discover that your journal now requires a password. Though it certainly is not common practice for me to request instead of simply take what I want, I do request access to your page, so that I can further read your most excellent script.
If you deign to grant this request, please send me an e-mail at usulaw@yahoo.com
With admiration
Though I have been long away on personal meditations, I have returned, only to discover that your journal now requires a password. Though it certainly is not common practice for me to request instead of simply take what I want, I do request access to your page, so that I can further read your most excellent script.
If you deign to grant this request, please send me an e-mail at usulaw@yahoo.com
With admiration
Due to the fact that a cowardly vandal entered my personal journal space and trashed it, neither claiming credit nor explaining their reasons for doing so, I have no interest in continuing to cast pearls before such swine. Hence the password protection.
Truth be told, I have also lost interest in Norrath of late and have spent much more time in an alternate universe wherein there exists a world that I created in collaboration with an old friend some 15 years past and continued the development thereof more or less alone in the years since. Looking for a more productive creative outlet recently, I decided to revive that project. I intend to devote the lion's share of my time and creativity to it for at least the near future.
That said, though my decision has undoubtably changed the complexion of the matter entirely, I had always intended to provide you with the password to my journal. However, understand that it may come to pass that, instead of reading of Xabr and Norrath, you could enter there to find yourself tortured instead with trash I'm developing for some other projects.
In time, you may well decide that you were better off without continued access!
Truth be told, I have also lost interest in Norrath of late and have spent much more time in an alternate universe wherein there exists a world that I created in collaboration with an old friend some 15 years past and continued the development thereof more or less alone in the years since. Looking for a more productive creative outlet recently, I decided to revive that project. I intend to devote the lion's share of my time and creativity to it for at least the near future.
That said, though my decision has undoubtably changed the complexion of the matter entirely, I had always intended to provide you with the password to my journal. However, understand that it may come to pass that, instead of reading of Xabr and Norrath, you could enter there to find yourself tortured instead with trash I'm developing for some other projects.
In time, you may well decide that you were better off without continued access!
It is a shame that someone would trash your journal, a regrettable shame. As they left no trace of their actions (I'm assuming from your description), I cannot send forth my spectral pet to teach the cretan some manners.
/ooc I wonder if your project has anything to do with Neverwinter Nights? If so, I would actually be most interested in hearing of it, as I have been developing some of my own campaigns with that system. Regardless, your presence has been missed.
/ooc I wonder if your project has anything to do with Neverwinter Nights? If so, I would actually be most interested in hearing of it, as I have been developing some of my own campaigns with that system. Regardless, your presence has been missed.
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If anyone Would like to join a guild on the prexus server than there are 2 ways to join
[li]Send Tells to an officer
[li]Send an email from the website listed below
http://www.geocities.com/wolfmasters_guild
Edited, Wed Oct 16 17:35:55 2002
[li]Send Tells to an officer
[li]Send an email from the website listed below
http://www.geocities.com/wolfmasters_guild
Edited, Wed Oct 16 17:35:55 2002
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Edited, Wed Oct 16 17:36:14 2002
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best monk i would say is the Human and Iksars :)
Scholar
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UUHH, they are the only Monks (or was this sarcasm). :)
Desert Bear
Desert Bear
I am back after a very long (seemingly) vacation from EQ, I shall be one of the great Iksar on the FV server, if my main character hasn't been deleted yet, you may see me. Otherwise, I shall be the scaly warrior running around FoB. Be well, and I hope to see you soon.
Scholar
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Hello i have a 40 Iksar SK and a 13 Dark Elf SK. I really dont know which one continue. I know that iksars have better melee stats, regen, natural AC..., i also know that DE has more int so i can cast a lot more than Iksars but nothing, i cant decide, so i decided to change my viewpoint and my questions are these: Which one has the best looking? who is more respected? What has more merit to do, and Iksar or a DE?
I know its a stupid question but its my only way to decide. Please answer me :)
One more thing, the faction doesnt matter for me, i even LOVE KoS
I know its a stupid question but its my only way to decide. Please answer me :)
One more thing, the faction doesnt matter for me, i even LOVE KoS
You pose a rather interesting question, though the answer is obvious. It would clearly depend on your motives. Are you planning to impress the ladies of the land, or are you planning to become the incarnation of Nightmare? If the former, stick with the weak skinned Dark Elves, but if the latter, the Iksar is the clear choice.
Personally, I have dealt with Iksar Shadow Knights, and they are the only thing that stays my hand from crushing the Shaman heretics within the city. (ooc, I have great respect for them).
Personally, I have dealt with Iksar Shadow Knights, and they are the only thing that stays my hand from crushing the Shaman heretics within the city. (ooc, I have great respect for them).
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Although at a time i believed all of caicsss creaturess could live in harmony together, in my old age i find thisss foolish to the point of hilllarity.
The humansss die so eassily and wear ssuch silly helmetss.... those are my favorite of the prey, those humanss....
On torvonillousss we have lead forcesss straight into the heart of qeynoss. It was more fun being the stalker and not the prey on that day in those wallsss than i could have imagined....
So i say to you, children of cazic, faction??
Faction!! bah! sscrew faction, more to hunt!!
The humansss die so eassily and wear ssuch silly helmetss.... those are my favorite of the prey, those humanss....
On torvonillousss we have lead forcesss straight into the heart of qeynoss. It was more fun being the stalker and not the prey on that day in those wallsss than i could have imagined....
So i say to you, children of cazic, faction??
Faction!! bah! sscrew faction, more to hunt!!
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I am a loyal citizen of cablis. I await the day that i am deemed worthy enough to serve my Master and Lord to rid our lands of the putrid soft skins that seem to abundently spew forth over our land like a disease. I ready myself day and night in the the hopes of being called forth to cure our lands of them. I pray the Lord Cazic Thule make haste to raise our armies forth to rid of us this plague. I cant wait to drench my blade with many of thier kind blood even until the day i join the many brave Iksar in death that came before me. So i bid thee Lord to call me forth for I am ready for Thy will to be told to me.
Im looking for guild or would like to learn more on starting one for Iksars only.
Beastlord in training always willing to serve,
Saranaky
Faithful To our Lord and cleanser one day of our home.
Im looking for guild or would like to learn more on starting one for Iksars only.
Beastlord in training always willing to serve,
Saranaky
Faithful To our Lord and cleanser one day of our home.
Scholar
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What server are you on? Im in AB if you want to know, 39 Iksar SK and i would love to join your clan if you get it. Nice idea to make an Iksar clan :)
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I am on fv server. for all those to know
What server are you on?
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I am on the fv server.
Hoping to serve our Race
Saranaky
beastlord
Hoping to serve our Race
Saranaky
beastlord
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It seems obvious to me, and should become appararent to most eventually, that before the proposed cleansing of the world brought forth by the Crusaders and the Brood can be realized, cleansing of our own society must first take place. That is why, while the knights and warriors of the mighty New Sebilis Empire bicker and argue, the true followers and worshippers of Cazic-Thule will spill forth from the Court of Pain and rid our land of the weak element. Your foolish masters may feel powerful now, but when our lord and master Glox awakens from his deep meditation, he shall see to it that the full glory of the mighty Iksar is reinstated, and that the world will forever be cleansed of the weakness and pathetic existance of both the Crusaders and the Brood.
You are too quick to assume that the Swift Tails alone can sweep the soft-skin infestation from Norrath. You may fight gloriously and your swift strikes may kill and maim our enemies, but your ability to heal and prepare yourself for battle is severely limited; your ability to weaken and soften up the enemy before and during battle is nonexistent. You may mend your wounds and lie upon the ground playing dead for hours to be sure, but at the end of the day that simply does not win battles.
You forget that there is no historical precedence for that which you claim will come, though anything is possible and it could very well come to pass that the Grandmaster Glox may lead the Swift Tails from the Court of Pain and, in so doing, lead us all to victory over the invaders.
Your forgetfulness is a symptom of the same convenient amnesia that afflicts many whose current peaceful existance, however shaky at the moment, was bought with the blood, sacrifice, and suffering of countless of our warriors and shamans in the Before Green and the Crusaders who fought to reclaim our homes from the squatting goblins and other vermin.
You also choose to discount that which the Brood of Kotiz contributes through our own continuing crusade to keep the Sarnak horde beyond the walls of New Sebilis.
In the end, it is the Beastlords who will harry our enemies as the Shamans weaken them with disease and pestilence and impede their movements while simultaneously strengthening our own combatants and facilitating their movement around the battlefields.
Our Warriors will find and fix our enemies and force them to commit to battle at a place and time of our choosing.
The Crusaders shall carry coffins for our enemies into the battle, and it shall be the Swift Tails who are the nails to seal them within for all eternity.
And it shall be the Brood of Kotiz who wields the hammers that drive the nails into their coffins.
Xabr, New Reverant of the Brood of Kotiz
____________________
/ooc Welcome to the fun. We have heard little from the Court of Pain in this ongoing saga, so this should prove to add a new element and some fun.
Edited, Sat Aug 31 15:33:28 2002
You forget that there is no historical precedence for that which you claim will come, though anything is possible and it could very well come to pass that the Grandmaster Glox may lead the Swift Tails from the Court of Pain and, in so doing, lead us all to victory over the invaders.
Your forgetfulness is a symptom of the same convenient amnesia that afflicts many whose current peaceful existance, however shaky at the moment, was bought with the blood, sacrifice, and suffering of countless of our warriors and shamans in the Before Green and the Crusaders who fought to reclaim our homes from the squatting goblins and other vermin.
You also choose to discount that which the Brood of Kotiz contributes through our own continuing crusade to keep the Sarnak horde beyond the walls of New Sebilis.
In the end, it is the Beastlords who will harry our enemies as the Shamans weaken them with disease and pestilence and impede their movements while simultaneously strengthening our own combatants and facilitating their movement around the battlefields.
Our Warriors will find and fix our enemies and force them to commit to battle at a place and time of our choosing.
The Crusaders shall carry coffins for our enemies into the battle, and it shall be the Swift Tails who are the nails to seal them within for all eternity.
And it shall be the Brood of Kotiz who wields the hammers that drive the nails into their coffins.
Xabr, New Reverant of the Brood of Kotiz
____________________
/ooc Welcome to the fun. We have heard little from the Court of Pain in this ongoing saga, so this should prove to add a new element and some fun.
Edited, Sat Aug 31 15:33:28 2002
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Do Iksar's make good necromancers if so why?
This question has been answered here before, and by several imminently more qualified posters here than I, but this is my opinion on the matter, if it helps you any.
Yes, we Iksar do make good Necromancers. Otherwise many of us frequenting this board would have chosen other races for our Necromancers.
The truth of the matter is that there is a upside and a downside to each of the races from which Necromancers can be created. I, for one, think they balance out in an Iksar Necromancer, so I chose to create one myself.
Others have different opinions about why they chose an Iksar; or for that matter, why they chose a Dark Elf, etc. In the end, the only thing that truly matters is that you choose a character you want to play and you enjoy playing the character.
Two sources you can look at, one somewhat balanced and the other skewed in favor of Gnomes (but as entertaining as it is enlightening), are:
Casters Realm - Necromancer Creation Guide Necrognomicon - Cultural Necromancy
The following is a quote from Casters Realms' take on the Iksar's suitability for Necromancy:
Hope that helps to steer you towards a good decision and that you have fun with whatever race you choose for your Necromancer. Good luck.
Edited, Sat Aug 31 15:06:03 2002
Yes, we Iksar do make good Necromancers. Otherwise many of us frequenting this board would have chosen other races for our Necromancers.
The truth of the matter is that there is a upside and a downside to each of the races from which Necromancers can be created. I, for one, think they balance out in an Iksar Necromancer, so I chose to create one myself.
Others have different opinions about why they chose an Iksar; or for that matter, why they chose a Dark Elf, etc. In the end, the only thing that truly matters is that you choose a character you want to play and you enjoy playing the character.
Two sources you can look at, one somewhat balanced and the other skewed in favor of Gnomes (but as entertaining as it is enlightening), are:
The following is a quote from Casters Realms' take on the Iksar's suitability for Necromancy:
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The Iksar necromancers level slower than the other races, but they have a health recovery bonus which assists when in skeleton form regaining mana, and the ability to forage for food. They also have a built in AC bonus.
Hope that helps to steer you towards a good decision and that you have fun with whatever race you choose for your Necromancer. Good luck.
Edited, Sat Aug 31 15:06:03 2002
Scholar
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One thing I can always count on is coming here and seeing some quality in-character posts and roleplay going on.
Even if some of the people visiting here just can't "get it," I think that it's really good stuff. The constant friction between the Crusaders and the Brood of Kotiz is choice stuff!
I couldn't come up with anything like this kind of stuff you people are creating here on my own, but I can definitely appreciate it for good work. More! More!
/tips hat to some danged good and imaginative posters here
Edited, Tue Aug 20 17:52:09 2002
Even if some of the people visiting here just can't "get it," I think that it's really good stuff. The constant friction between the Crusaders and the Brood of Kotiz is choice stuff!
I couldn't come up with anything like this kind of stuff you people are creating here on my own, but I can definitely appreciate it for good work. More! More!
/tips hat to some danged good and imaginative posters here
Edited, Tue Aug 20 17:52:09 2002
Some people bust out the Rpers who hang on these boards, rating their posts lower because they don't see any benefit to the reparte going on here. It's not all about spoilers and how-to guides, not in my opinion anyway.
However, if RP is done very well -- and I am not arrogant enough to claim that I do well enough, and certainly not remotely as well as QueenUsula, Parttime, and some others here -- there is always a little bit of strategy to be shared and/or knowledge to be gained from such posts.
Sometimes, the threads are just for fun. One can always just make note of those whose posts tend towards RP and ignore them when hunting for detailed information. One can leave them for a later time when just looking for a little entertainment.
William James once said something like, "The human trait that makes the angels cry is the tendency to criticize another person's way of being happy." I take from that that we should leave each to his own happiness. We come here and we take or leave what we wish, but we should never diminish the honest efforts of others who choose to come here and do something creative with it.
/shrug
Edited, Sat Aug 31 10:46:32 2002
However, if RP is done very well -- and I am not arrogant enough to claim that I do well enough, and certainly not remotely as well as QueenUsula, Parttime, and some others here -- there is always a little bit of strategy to be shared and/or knowledge to be gained from such posts.
Sometimes, the threads are just for fun. One can always just make note of those whose posts tend towards RP and ignore them when hunting for detailed information. One can leave them for a later time when just looking for a little entertainment.
William James once said something like, "The human trait that makes the angels cry is the tendency to criticize another person's way of being happy." I take from that that we should leave each to his own happiness. We come here and we take or leave what we wish, but we should never diminish the honest efforts of others who choose to come here and do something creative with it.
/shrug
Edited, Sat Aug 31 10:46:32 2002
As a shadow knight of cabilis, you would think I would be the last person to speak of unification of the races. But in fact, that is what is happening all across Norath, and even on the moon.
I have studied and practiced the ways of the necromancer for many years, but I gave up the full teachings of the brood so that I could pursue honor and power as a knight. It took me awhile to figure out, but I finally realized that goal of Iksar Shadow Knights is not just to go it alone their whole lives. If that was true, we would not get too far.
There is a unification happening in our land. It is the genesis of an age where Iksar and Humans, as well as any other race, walk with each other. It is true that the kings and queens of all cities have ordered their gaurds to keep certain races out. But it is the free spirit of the common adventurer that has broken down the barriers of race and class.
It is not the stale ideas of the town leaders that will prevail. It is the open-mindedness of those who are out on the battlefield every day that will win the day. Even now we see guilds of people forming, with no race left out. Whether you are an Iksar Shadow Knight or a Barbarian Warrior, you are welcome. It is the common goals of each guild that drives them and unites them.
This is for what I strive. One day, I hope to walk among the streets of Freeport without having to cower in the shadows like so many rats. One day I hope to drink at the tavern in the heart of Qeynos.
Yes, perhaps it will happen. One day...
I have studied and practiced the ways of the necromancer for many years, but I gave up the full teachings of the brood so that I could pursue honor and power as a knight. It took me awhile to figure out, but I finally realized that goal of Iksar Shadow Knights is not just to go it alone their whole lives. If that was true, we would not get too far.
There is a unification happening in our land. It is the genesis of an age where Iksar and Humans, as well as any other race, walk with each other. It is true that the kings and queens of all cities have ordered their gaurds to keep certain races out. But it is the free spirit of the common adventurer that has broken down the barriers of race and class.
It is not the stale ideas of the town leaders that will prevail. It is the open-mindedness of those who are out on the battlefield every day that will win the day. Even now we see guilds of people forming, with no race left out. Whether you are an Iksar Shadow Knight or a Barbarian Warrior, you are welcome. It is the common goals of each guild that drives them and unites them.
This is for what I strive. One day, I hope to walk among the streets of Freeport without having to cower in the shadows like so many rats. One day I hope to drink at the tavern in the heart of Qeynos.
Yes, perhaps it will happen. One day...
(spoken in Lizardman:)
Very interesting ruse that you have concocted for the consumption of the soft-skinned races. I believe this to be the perfect dupe we have been seeking with which to lull them into a false sense of security, thus lowering their guard and permitting us to walk unhindered among them in the very cities where once we were barred from entering, the very cities in which they have so foolishly believed themselves safe to sleep peacefully each night.
Delightful, this trick of yours, presented as it has been in a forum that permits it to be widely disseminated by the gullible and the fearful, for in their fear and insecurity they despair for any sliver of hope for peace such as this and will give rise to a great hysterical cry that will drown out the voices of reason and caution among them.
Ah, how deliciously ironic! How cunningly evil!
Yes, I approve and will present this plan to my colleagues in West Cabilis. The Brood of Kotiz will surely both endorse and enforce this plan.
We of the Brood will be so pleased to have thought of it and will expect your continued cooperation in making it a resounding success.
And when it has succeeded, you may walk with me those same streets of Freeport with head held high in the bright sunlight of a new day. And you may proudly share an ale with me in a tavern in the heart of Qeynos as we celebrate our conquests with great pyres of their dead.
We will toast the fact that Cazic Thule created in us the superior race.
Xabr, New Revenant of the Brood of Kotiz
Edited, Wed Aug 21 07:50:52 2002
Very interesting ruse that you have concocted for the consumption of the soft-skinned races. I believe this to be the perfect dupe we have been seeking with which to lull them into a false sense of security, thus lowering their guard and permitting us to walk unhindered among them in the very cities where once we were barred from entering, the very cities in which they have so foolishly believed themselves safe to sleep peacefully each night.
Delightful, this trick of yours, presented as it has been in a forum that permits it to be widely disseminated by the gullible and the fearful, for in their fear and insecurity they despair for any sliver of hope for peace such as this and will give rise to a great hysterical cry that will drown out the voices of reason and caution among them.
Ah, how deliciously ironic! How cunningly evil!
Yes, I approve and will present this plan to my colleagues in West Cabilis. The Brood of Kotiz will surely both endorse and enforce this plan.
We of the Brood will be so pleased to have thought of it and will expect your continued cooperation in making it a resounding success.
And when it has succeeded, you may walk with me those same streets of Freeport with head held high in the bright sunlight of a new day. And you may proudly share an ale with me in a tavern in the heart of Qeynos as we celebrate our conquests with great pyres of their dead.
We will toast the fact that Cazic Thule created in us the superior race.
Xabr, New Revenant of the Brood of Kotiz
Edited, Wed Aug 21 07:50:52 2002
As you have proposed this Xabr, I shall hold you personally responsible for its implementation. I also warn you that the shadowknight might actually believe his words, as many shadowknights delight in betraying our people to softskins.
I say there can never be peace with the softskin invaders, though this idea of integration has some merit.
Remember Xabr, I shall be watching your progress in this matter.
I say there can never be peace with the softskin invaders, though this idea of integration has some merit.
Remember Xabr, I shall be watching your progress in this matter.
(spoken in Lizardman:)
What the shadow knight may believe is less important than the fact that he believes.
A true believer makes a better salesman. The blind acceptance of this ridiculous ideal makes him, and other likeminded fools, the perfect false prophets to send forth to proseltyze and create a fertile medium in which the seeds of the Brood's plans can germinate and grow to bear the desired fruit.
Personally responsible? I have no qualms with that. I fully intended to claim credit for its successful execution anyway.
And it will succeed. I have every confidence in the industry of these ignorant and foolish pawns who mistakenly believe they move of their own free will and with some degree of control over their own destinies.
Xabr, New Revenant of the Brood of Kotiz
(soto voce:)
Pray, do focus carefully with both eyes upon me that you may track my progress. But mistake not periods of seeming inactivity for sloth, for it is when I move the least that I can prove most dangerous.
Watch me, yes, because I watch the progress of the pawns, and in watching me you can never watch all of them nor where I may move them... and against whom.
Edited, Fri Aug 23 14:27:06 2002
What the shadow knight may believe is less important than the fact that he believes.
A true believer makes a better salesman. The blind acceptance of this ridiculous ideal makes him, and other likeminded fools, the perfect false prophets to send forth to proseltyze and create a fertile medium in which the seeds of the Brood's plans can germinate and grow to bear the desired fruit.
Personally responsible? I have no qualms with that. I fully intended to claim credit for its successful execution anyway.
And it will succeed. I have every confidence in the industry of these ignorant and foolish pawns who mistakenly believe they move of their own free will and with some degree of control over their own destinies.
Xabr, New Revenant of the Brood of Kotiz
(soto voce:)
Pray, do focus carefully with both eyes upon me that you may track my progress. But mistake not periods of seeming inactivity for sloth, for it is when I move the least that I can prove most dangerous.
Watch me, yes, because I watch the progress of the pawns, and in watching me you can never watch all of them nor where I may move them... and against whom.
Edited, Fri Aug 23 14:27:06 2002
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[/red] lizardman
i Goodbasher agree hee dumb think wwwe want friends with soft skin they weak no swim or kill good... they all fall easy under my blades but me be nice me waiting for righht time... doing as told making friends makee them think me likes them that me friend... then when it time we all unite all of cabblis and we shall rise and and rule them all... if he belives so be it he just make it easyier for me latter... but hee may be no better then skin... and well die with them just as easyly *** the softskins...
i Goodbasher agree hee dumb think wwwe want friends with soft skin they weak no swim or kill good... they all fall easy under my blades but me be nice me waiting for righht time... doing as told making friends makee them think me likes them that me friend... then when it time we all unite all of cabblis and we shall rise and and rule them all... if he belives so be it he just make it easyier for me latter... but hee may be no better then skin... and well die with them just as easyly *** the softskins...
Revenant Xabr,
I see already that you will make a formidable necromancer in the service of Cabilis. I do so look forward to your next few mechanations within the scaled walls of Cabilis, and beyond.
I see already that you will make a formidable necromancer in the service of Cabilis. I do so look forward to your next few mechanations within the scaled walls of Cabilis, and beyond.
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After perusing many of the messages upon this board, I must make a correction or two. Although you Usula have impressed me by your knowledge and Wisdom for such a... shall I say, unpleasant race such as the Iksar, I'd like to state that the Necromancer would truly not be such a Master of Life as you've stated. Necromancers can bring a peer back to the living world but they must make a sacrifice before doing so - a likely method to gather more souls for your vile Thule's plane. Hmph, and those desecrations of the living that your skeleton servants are? Horrid.
I am, surprisingly so, enlightened to the facts that your anciently troubled race is coming to the point near to civil war. I agree with you in a small sense; the practices of the Shadow Knight and Shaman are considered to be vile within the walls of Felwithe as well.
I do, though, respect you to some degree. You are perhaps the first of your kind I've been able to understand through that terrible sibilant speech impediment you all seem to possess.
Keldraan Lifebreather
59th Cleric of the Tunarean Service
I am, surprisingly so, enlightened to the facts that your anciently troubled race is coming to the point near to civil war. I agree with you in a small sense; the practices of the Shadow Knight and Shaman are considered to be vile within the walls of Felwithe as well.
I do, though, respect you to some degree. You are perhaps the first of your kind I've been able to understand through that terrible sibilant speech impediment you all seem to possess.
Keldraan Lifebreather
59th Cleric of the Tunarean Service
Keldraan,
Make no mistake, my softskinned friend, that although to outsiders it may look as if the Iksar are a fragmented race, that is not the case.
It is true that there are factions within Cabilis that are not in agreement on the means of exterminating your presents on our continent, however we are all agreed that your invasion of our lands must be stopped.
We have a common cause, just not common methods.
We are much more in agreement with each other than the factions within Freeport or Qeyons or even Akanon. All of which are considered areas of "good" to those who are morally impaired. I would suggest you take your taunting to those who do not recognize hypocrasy so readily.
As far as using the dead, everything has power within it. It is foolish to not use power when it is within your grasp...even if the source of that power offends your fragile elven sensiblities. Please, go hide in your towers and trees while those of us with the stomach to take power and hold it actually impact the course of history.
/ooc Welcome to Iksar board...feel free to join us in a discussion anytime :-)
Edited, Wed Aug 14 17:22:52 2002
Make no mistake, my softskinned friend, that although to outsiders it may look as if the Iksar are a fragmented race, that is not the case.
It is true that there are factions within Cabilis that are not in agreement on the means of exterminating your presents on our continent, however we are all agreed that your invasion of our lands must be stopped.
We have a common cause, just not common methods.
We are much more in agreement with each other than the factions within Freeport or Qeyons or even Akanon. All of which are considered areas of "good" to those who are morally impaired. I would suggest you take your taunting to those who do not recognize hypocrasy so readily.
As far as using the dead, everything has power within it. It is foolish to not use power when it is within your grasp...even if the source of that power offends your fragile elven sensiblities. Please, go hide in your towers and trees while those of us with the stomach to take power and hold it actually impact the course of history.
/ooc Welcome to Iksar board...feel free to join us in a discussion anytime :-)
Edited, Wed Aug 14 17:22:52 2002
Keldraan of Felwithe,
While I have tolerated Koada Dal clerical mewlings before, I find my patience at an end. Therefore, I shall address your words so that you may not infect the minds of our broodlings.
An Iksar is a master of life, and though you may wish to dispute this fact, it remains for all to see. We are able to bring back the dead, provided we gather the essence from a sacrifice. The point, however, is that it is through our own power we bring back the life of our chosen. For you, on the other hand, you must rely on petitions to a Goddess or some other higher power, while we merely rely on our own skill. What we do with the souls of our sacrifices is clearly none of your concern, though I believe Thule would find little interest in souls of the cowards who were slain through sacrifice.
And though you may call our summoning of undead servants "horrid", I call it simple practicality. Why should the unused body parts of those who have passed to another plane go to waste? Should we instead use our valuable mineral resources as you do in order to create labor? Your argument that it is a horrid practice is simply illogical. Iksar use the resource that would otherwise be unused. Your own kind, however, neglect this environmentally friendly act and instead drain valuable malachite resources, which were gathered through mining operations. Not only do the mining operations cause more damage than necessary to the environment, but it also disproportionately uses a labor force that could otherwise be used to better society. What use do the dead have of their bones, I ask you? We have one mortician in Cabilis, and that one is able to fill our needs for animating servants.
To your point in regards to the Shadow Knights and Shaman within Cabilis, I would say that it is none of your concern, just as the foul rites of the Clerics of Tunare are none of mine... well, almost none of mine, but I will discuss that with you shortly. My opposition to the Shaman and Shadow Knight guilds comes because they deal with other races outside the Iksar, and make secret pacts that could adversely affect the Iksar race.
As for the speech impediment you seem to refer to, there are two simple causes for it. First, the majority of us do it to you softskins because we find it annoys you, and since the common tongue is so unpleasant sounding to us, it is a small and admittedly petty way to share some of the annoyance. The second possibility is due to your former communication with Iksar outcasts... naturally they would not know how to speak properly, since they have no education... for the residents of Cabilis, however, I assure you we are quite capable of communicating perfectly in the common tongue, no matter how horrid the sound of it is, or how painful the forming of it's words.
Now Keldraan, since you have invaded Iksar lands, and since you continually refer to the vile and horrid actions of my people, I would pose some questions to you.
First, what makes you think we Iksar are "vile and horrid"?
Second, how can you self-righteously come to our lands and decry us, when your people are invaders on lands historically belonging to my people?
Third, why do you, as an unprovoked aggressor against my people, think you can come here and challenge us with hollow words?
Edited, Wed Aug 14 01:14:03 2002
While I have tolerated Koada Dal clerical mewlings before, I find my patience at an end. Therefore, I shall address your words so that you may not infect the minds of our broodlings.
An Iksar is a master of life, and though you may wish to dispute this fact, it remains for all to see. We are able to bring back the dead, provided we gather the essence from a sacrifice. The point, however, is that it is through our own power we bring back the life of our chosen. For you, on the other hand, you must rely on petitions to a Goddess or some other higher power, while we merely rely on our own skill. What we do with the souls of our sacrifices is clearly none of your concern, though I believe Thule would find little interest in souls of the cowards who were slain through sacrifice.
And though you may call our summoning of undead servants "horrid", I call it simple practicality. Why should the unused body parts of those who have passed to another plane go to waste? Should we instead use our valuable mineral resources as you do in order to create labor? Your argument that it is a horrid practice is simply illogical. Iksar use the resource that would otherwise be unused. Your own kind, however, neglect this environmentally friendly act and instead drain valuable malachite resources, which were gathered through mining operations. Not only do the mining operations cause more damage than necessary to the environment, but it also disproportionately uses a labor force that could otherwise be used to better society. What use do the dead have of their bones, I ask you? We have one mortician in Cabilis, and that one is able to fill our needs for animating servants.
To your point in regards to the Shadow Knights and Shaman within Cabilis, I would say that it is none of your concern, just as the foul rites of the Clerics of Tunare are none of mine... well, almost none of mine, but I will discuss that with you shortly. My opposition to the Shaman and Shadow Knight guilds comes because they deal with other races outside the Iksar, and make secret pacts that could adversely affect the Iksar race.
As for the speech impediment you seem to refer to, there are two simple causes for it. First, the majority of us do it to you softskins because we find it annoys you, and since the common tongue is so unpleasant sounding to us, it is a small and admittedly petty way to share some of the annoyance. The second possibility is due to your former communication with Iksar outcasts... naturally they would not know how to speak properly, since they have no education... for the residents of Cabilis, however, I assure you we are quite capable of communicating perfectly in the common tongue, no matter how horrid the sound of it is, or how painful the forming of it's words.
Now Keldraan, since you have invaded Iksar lands, and since you continually refer to the vile and horrid actions of my people, I would pose some questions to you.
First, what makes you think we Iksar are "vile and horrid"?
Second, how can you self-righteously come to our lands and decry us, when your people are invaders on lands historically belonging to my people?
Third, why do you, as an unprovoked aggressor against my people, think you can come here and challenge us with hollow words?
Edited, Wed Aug 14 01:14:03 2002
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(OOC)
I posted to see what kind of reply I'd have gotten and I'm definitely not surprised. Quite a few of you have livened up these boards considerably and they're extremely entertaining to read. Just wanted to see how you'd defend a few of the questions / comments and all.
After reading this I regret that Keldraan even thought of angering the Queen of the Iksar Necromancers. *grin.* Thanks for making Allakhazam a fun and entertaining place. EverQuest was built for RPers: it's good to see that not all have been lost in the pursuit of loot.
*bows to whomever lies being the guise of Usala and could RP him easily into a tizzy.*
Keld
I posted to see what kind of reply I'd have gotten and I'm definitely not surprised. Quite a few of you have livened up these boards considerably and they're extremely entertaining to read. Just wanted to see how you'd defend a few of the questions / comments and all.
After reading this I regret that Keldraan even thought of angering the Queen of the Iksar Necromancers. *grin.* Thanks for making Allakhazam a fun and entertaining place. EverQuest was built for RPers: it's good to see that not all have been lost in the pursuit of loot.
*bows to whomever lies being the guise of Usala and could RP him easily into a tizzy.*
Keld
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what sort of weapon do u think a lvl 10 war should get
A level 10 elf warrior? Hmm, I don't think such a one is worthy of being slain by tarnished fer'esh.. perhaps rusty would work
2 posts
Dragons are present in Kunark, when will we ever be RID of them?
We will be rid of the dragons once the citizenry of Cabilis realize the error of serving the shaman and shadowknight guilds. Once the Iksar realize these cancers for what they are, we can begin to cleanse Kunark. Before Kunark, however, we must rid ourselves of the cancers within our own society.
Scholar
45 posts
... Right
Edited, Fri Aug 9 18:22:00 2002
Edited, Fri Aug 9 18:22:00 2002
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Why do you consider the Shaman and Shadowknight guilds a cancer?
Xanimar, I have noticed that this foolish broodling, who calls herself queen, considers anyone who is not the lap dogs of the necromancers to be disruptive.
For those who have not been aware of the politics of Cabilis, the city is split into three parts politically. The warriors and the necromancers are one group and the the Shamans and Shadowknights on the other with the Monks staying basically neutral inbetween.
I believe that Usula is just annoyed with swing of politicaly strength with the recent addition of the Beast Masters. They seem to be aligned with the Shamans at this point and I am sure that she is frustrated with the the draining of influence that the necromancers have experienced.
Why, you may ask, is there dis-like between the Necro/Warriors and the Shaman/Shadowknights? It comes down our philosophy of magic. Necro's had long ago been given the power to regulate all magic use for the Iksar Empire by the Emperor. And instead of using that power to expand the Iksar's knowledge of magic, they used it as an excuse to destroy all other forms of magic within the Empire. Do you wonder why there is no other magic users except for Necromancers...It is because the necromancers destroyed each branch of magic one by one, until only we, the Shadow Knights and the Shamans remain. Has it never struck you odd that there are no Iksar Clerics when we as a race follow Cazic Thule? Again they, with help from the warriors, where destroyed when they challaged the necromancer's power.
Now, the necromancers seek to align with the enslaving power of Mistmoor and the corrupt Dark Elves. This is something that the Shadow Knights have been against and will continue to battle in the future. (I will actually personally help when VI get the Test of Betrayal working again.)
Usula...I hope someday you understand that until the Necromancers allow the Iksar to expand their magical abilities to other branches of magic...it is the necromancers who are the real threat to the survival of the Empire.
For those who have not been aware of the politics of Cabilis, the city is split into three parts politically. The warriors and the necromancers are one group and the the Shamans and Shadowknights on the other with the Monks staying basically neutral inbetween.
I believe that Usula is just annoyed with swing of politicaly strength with the recent addition of the Beast Masters. They seem to be aligned with the Shamans at this point and I am sure that she is frustrated with the the draining of influence that the necromancers have experienced.
Why, you may ask, is there dis-like between the Necro/Warriors and the Shaman/Shadowknights? It comes down our philosophy of magic. Necro's had long ago been given the power to regulate all magic use for the Iksar Empire by the Emperor. And instead of using that power to expand the Iksar's knowledge of magic, they used it as an excuse to destroy all other forms of magic within the Empire. Do you wonder why there is no other magic users except for Necromancers...It is because the necromancers destroyed each branch of magic one by one, until only we, the Shadow Knights and the Shamans remain. Has it never struck you odd that there are no Iksar Clerics when we as a race follow Cazic Thule? Again they, with help from the warriors, where destroyed when they challaged the necromancer's power.
Now, the necromancers seek to align with the enslaving power of Mistmoor and the corrupt Dark Elves. This is something that the Shadow Knights have been against and will continue to battle in the future. (I will actually personally help when VI get the Test of Betrayal working again.)
Usula...I hope someday you understand that until the Necromancers allow the Iksar to expand their magical abilities to other branches of magic...it is the necromancers who are the real threat to the survival of the Empire.
As always, you are a well spoken member of the Shadow Knights, yet you delude yourself if you think that the Brood of Kotiz is in any way associated with the softskin invaders.
Do we ally ourselves with Mistmoor? No, that is the province of your own faction, as is evidenced by the bargains struck by the Haggle Barron with representative members of the Overthere. Still, we do not oppose such an alliance, if it means that all the cursed wurms on Kunark are destroyed. Consider also, foolish one, that Venril Sathir, himself allied with Mistmoor, came from your shadow knight ranks after stealing information from Kotiz.
The Brood of Kotiz is the umbrella that even now protects the remnants of the great empire from becoming slaves once again. It is the Brood of Kotiz who was responsible for the freedom we all now enjoy from the snake men.
Shrikke is indeed someone who has a vested interest in the success of our empire, yet, regardless of his well meaning intentions, he does not yet realize what a specific threat his faction represents for the future of the Iksar. We of the Brood of Kotiz are not blind followers of a god who not only enslaves us, but also keeps our empire from progressing. Shrikke may accuse the brood of disallowing other forms of magic, and this is regrettably true, though I do not see a way to convince the Harbinger and his minions to change their views on this subject.... I am afterall, only a female in a brood composed almost solely of males.
Do we ally ourselves with Mistmoor? No, that is the province of your own faction, as is evidenced by the bargains struck by the Haggle Barron with representative members of the Overthere. Still, we do not oppose such an alliance, if it means that all the cursed wurms on Kunark are destroyed. Consider also, foolish one, that Venril Sathir, himself allied with Mistmoor, came from your shadow knight ranks after stealing information from Kotiz.
The Brood of Kotiz is the umbrella that even now protects the remnants of the great empire from becoming slaves once again. It is the Brood of Kotiz who was responsible for the freedom we all now enjoy from the snake men.
Shrikke is indeed someone who has a vested interest in the success of our empire, yet, regardless of his well meaning intentions, he does not yet realize what a specific threat his faction represents for the future of the Iksar. We of the Brood of Kotiz are not blind followers of a god who not only enslaves us, but also keeps our empire from progressing. Shrikke may accuse the brood of disallowing other forms of magic, and this is regrettably true, though I do not see a way to convince the Harbinger and his minions to change their views on this subject.... I am afterall, only a female in a brood composed almost solely of males.
Usula...well met,
It is because of the failures of Venril Sathir and others who have followed the path of the living dead from our own ranks that the Knight of Greenmist so oppose joining Mistmoor and the Dark Elves that he uses as slaves.
Also, you and the Necromancers can not take responsiblity for the overturn of the Shissar Empire and our freedom even though I'm sure you like to tell that story to your own students. That was the work of the Gods...Innoruke (sp?) most likely...and not to give us freedom, but to stop the snakes from challanging them. Our freedom was only a byproduct.
As far as the Haggle Baron is concerned. He is a result of the Necromancer's strangle hold on the culture of the Iksar. A black market of magical items and spells would not be necessary or the dealing with foriegners that comes from their acquistion, if the necromancers would allow the Iksar people to persue magical paths outside of Necromancy.
I do not blame you, Usula, personally for these social/political issues and problems. I believe that you do what you feel you must to hold the Empire together. I just hope that by holding it so tight that the necromancers do not crush the life and spirit out of our people.
/ooc It is nice to banter with you again. I hope that life and gaming is going well. Until next time Queen of the Iksar.
It is because of the failures of Venril Sathir and others who have followed the path of the living dead from our own ranks that the Knight of Greenmist so oppose joining Mistmoor and the Dark Elves that he uses as slaves.
Also, you and the Necromancers can not take responsiblity for the overturn of the Shissar Empire and our freedom even though I'm sure you like to tell that story to your own students. That was the work of the Gods...Innoruke (sp?) most likely...and not to give us freedom, but to stop the snakes from challanging them. Our freedom was only a byproduct.
As far as the Haggle Baron is concerned. He is a result of the Necromancer's strangle hold on the culture of the Iksar. A black market of magical items and spells would not be necessary or the dealing with foriegners that comes from their acquistion, if the necromancers would allow the Iksar people to persue magical paths outside of Necromancy.
I do not blame you, Usula, personally for these social/political issues and problems. I believe that you do what you feel you must to hold the Empire together. I just hope that by holding it so tight that the necromancers do not crush the life and spirit out of our people.
/ooc It is nice to banter with you again. I hope that life and gaming is going well. Until next time Queen of the Iksar.
I do so find it interesting Shrikke, how you can blame the blatant betrayal of your caste members on the protective policies of the Brood of Kotiz. It is unlike you to deny responsiblity for events that shape our history, most notably the counterproductive activities of the Haggle Barron and the stifling religious zeal enspoused by the shaman. You accuse the Brood of Kotiz of possibly crushing the life and spirit out of our people, and yet you still fail to address the spiritual shackles our people still have due to the insane worship of Cazic Thule.
As for what the Brood teaches it's students, perhaps you should ask a legionaire, as they have to go through training with the brood. In fact, though, I did not mean to imply that the Brood of Kotiz was responsible for the downfall of the Shissar, merely that the brood was indeed responsible for the surival of the tribes after this fall. We filled a power vacuum, and in doing so, saved our people from utter distruction as was visited upon the trolls who once called Kunark home.
Do not blind yourself, Shrikke, in thinking that the Knights of the Greenmist or the shaman hold the best interests of the Iksar people in the highest regard, and I will easily admit that our cursed Harbinger also does not hold the necessary interest in the survival and prosperity of our people. I do realize the corruption within the Brood of Kotiz, yet still think the faction redeamable, given the right motivations... I hold no such hope to a faction that enslaves the spirit of our people and ties it to a god who may or may not have been the one to free us from the snake men.
I wonder, more and more each day, what hope there is for our people... and whether our people can have hope when the greatest icon we revere is a god whose singluar purpose is to cause weakness through fear. I know the lessons that can be taught by Fear... I have gone through the trials set forth by the Brood of Kotiz. I know the face of death and decay. I see now that I ramble.
I will leave you with one question, Shrikke, and I actually hope within the cold depths of my heart that you have an answer. How can we Iksar hope to stand against two invading (the elven/good outpost of F. Vie and the dark outpost at the Overthere) and four occupying armies (the wurms, the sarnak, the goblins, and the frogloks), when we cannot even combine our might to offer a united front? I see our only hope in the elimination of your faction Shrikke, because it not only binds our people to a destructive force (praise Cazic Thule as you will, but for me, he is slaver and oppressor of our people) but also promotes discord with the legion and the brood of Kotiz.
As for what the Brood teaches it's students, perhaps you should ask a legionaire, as they have to go through training with the brood. In fact, though, I did not mean to imply that the Brood of Kotiz was responsible for the downfall of the Shissar, merely that the brood was indeed responsible for the surival of the tribes after this fall. We filled a power vacuum, and in doing so, saved our people from utter distruction as was visited upon the trolls who once called Kunark home.
Do not blind yourself, Shrikke, in thinking that the Knights of the Greenmist or the shaman hold the best interests of the Iksar people in the highest regard, and I will easily admit that our cursed Harbinger also does not hold the necessary interest in the survival and prosperity of our people. I do realize the corruption within the Brood of Kotiz, yet still think the faction redeamable, given the right motivations... I hold no such hope to a faction that enslaves the spirit of our people and ties it to a god who may or may not have been the one to free us from the snake men.
I wonder, more and more each day, what hope there is for our people... and whether our people can have hope when the greatest icon we revere is a god whose singluar purpose is to cause weakness through fear. I know the lessons that can be taught by Fear... I have gone through the trials set forth by the Brood of Kotiz. I know the face of death and decay. I see now that I ramble.
I will leave you with one question, Shrikke, and I actually hope within the cold depths of my heart that you have an answer. How can we Iksar hope to stand against two invading (the elven/good outpost of F. Vie and the dark outpost at the Overthere) and four occupying armies (the wurms, the sarnak, the goblins, and the frogloks), when we cannot even combine our might to offer a united front? I see our only hope in the elimination of your faction Shrikke, because it not only binds our people to a destructive force (praise Cazic Thule as you will, but for me, he is slaver and oppressor of our people) but also promotes discord with the legion and the brood of Kotiz.
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Long have I sat and brooded upon those that are the Tier Dal. It is obvious to me that though they claim alliance of purpose that they seek to use us for their own purpose. They will to your face claim friendship while they plan to use you as fodder in the gist mill of their plans within plans. Should the Iksar survive the battles that they will put us in then we can expect a blade in the back. They promise us aid to recover our lost empire. But their words are hollow and empty and only by our own efforts can the Iksar rise again to rule Kunark and all other lands as is only proper. All races will bow to us and be our slaves when we take our proper place again. But when that day comes you can be sure that it will not have happened with any Teir Dal aid. False friends can only be used to one purpose. Slay them and feed their flesh to the broodlings. In the mean time the Iksar must unite to one purpose. Our ancient foes still seek our doom. They still plan our destruction. Our first step is to regain control of the Frogloks. The next of rebellion must be crushed. Not a single Froglok must be allowed to live in that town in the Swamp of no Hope. They are poor slaves but good snacks but none can be allowed to escape our rule.
4 posts
Greeting my brothers and sisters,
i am on Rodcet Nife server and i am trying to implement something cool and usefull to all of us. I created on RN a iksar only channel, name is "cabilis" this way, we can learn to know more about each other and to plan some large scale raid-invasion, get mentor to teach new hatchlings etc.
i've set this channel as /autojoin so everytime i'll be online, so is this channel, i would be honored to have more of my brothers and sisters to join me there!!
cya online!
All Hail the Fear Lord Cazic-Thule!
Ebolla Halfscale
40th lvl shaman iksar
i am on Rodcet Nife server and i am trying to implement something cool and usefull to all of us. I created on RN a iksar only channel, name is "cabilis" this way, we can learn to know more about each other and to plan some large scale raid-invasion, get mentor to teach new hatchlings etc.
i've set this channel as /autojoin so everytime i'll be online, so is this channel, i would be honored to have more of my brothers and sisters to join me there!!
cya online!
All Hail the Fear Lord Cazic-Thule!
Ebolla Halfscale
40th lvl shaman iksar
4 posts
Greeting my brothers and sisters,
i am on Rodcet Nife server and i am trying to implement something cool and usefull to all of us. I created on RN a iksar only channel, name is "cabilis" this way, we can learn to know more about each other and to plan some large scale raid-invasion, get mentor to teach new hatchlings etc.
i've set this channel as /autojoin so everytime i'll be online, so is this channel, i would be honored to have more of my brothers and sisters to join me there!!
cya online!
All Hail the Fear Lord Cazic-Thule!
Ebolla Halfscale
40th lvl shaman iksar
i am on Rodcet Nife server and i am trying to implement something cool and usefull to all of us. I created on RN a iksar only channel, name is "cabilis" this way, we can learn to know more about each other and to plan some large scale raid-invasion, get mentor to teach new hatchlings etc.
i've set this channel as /autojoin so everytime i'll be online, so is this channel, i would be honored to have more of my brothers and sisters to join me there!!
cya online!
All Hail the Fear Lord Cazic-Thule!
Ebolla Halfscale
40th lvl shaman iksar
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I can understand why Iksars cant use plate for roleplaying reasons, but this completely makes the midlevel iksar miss out on a whole lot of good equipment, heck, even high level iksars miss out on good equipment(Though there are the velious and luclin armor quests, thank cazic those are iksar usable *grins*) SKs and Warriors miss out a lot, as well as the shamans missing out on JBB, but oh well, we still have the advantage of regen and the looks of a leezard =)
16 posts
Well If you take a look at Iksars, does it look like they can wear Armor? Normal Plate does not have a huge hole in the back for their tail, nor their posture helps really. In luclin they're bent over all the time, and the helmets arent really made for their skulls. Plus they have huge talons on their feet so there is a good chance they couldn't get their size 16 foot into any kind of steel boot.
So obviously if they want plate, they will have to have it custom made. For warrior iksars theres Trooper and Legionaire Armor, made specificly for that class, and isnt exactly weak. Anywayz, thats pretty much why iksars cant get them selves into plate unless they want to get a blow torch and melt holes in it.
So obviously if they want plate, they will have to have it custom made. For warrior iksars theres Trooper and Legionaire Armor, made specificly for that class, and isnt exactly weak. Anywayz, thats pretty much why iksars cant get them selves into plate unless they want to get a blow torch and melt holes in it.
Do IKS SK miss out on some gear? Sure. Is it that big a deal? Probably not. Dreadscale armor is good to at least mid40s, if not higher. Also, Ry'Gorr is good armor, wearable by IKS SK.
Once you get past that, IKS SK get to wear all the good quested Velious armor, including Thurg, Noct (PoG), and SS / Kael armor.
And the AC bonus, which, although its still debated how much of a benefit it is, is still nice to have.
Lunatic
Once you get past that, IKS SK get to wear all the good quested Velious armor, including Thurg, Noct (PoG), and SS / Kael armor.
And the AC bonus, which, although its still debated how much of a benefit it is, is still nice to have.
Lunatic
9 posts
plz help me and my friend find a guild name for iksar only if your name is accepted you will be paid 10pp and a membership in the guild.
plz email me your idea to
Andrews_smith_westen@yahoo.com
Asst.Guild/Clan Master Xhcale
plz email me your idea to
Andrews_smith_westen@yahoo.com
Asst.Guild/Clan Master Xhcale
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jul 20 2002 at 8:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 10pp? what if im not on your sever? and since when is 10pp a lot of money...
You foolish heretic and slanderer. The Council of the Emerald Scale, acting for the New Sebilisian Government, declares that your drivel should be disregarded entirely.
For your unenlightened ears, Nukker, we are the strongest single race there is. We do have the ability to resurrect, though why that is even necessary for a race as superior as our own is beyond my knowledge (ooc ~ Necros can resurrect, for a price).
Second point, since when are monks not considered prime damage dealers, and what human clan can compare to an iksar master? Our shaman cannot cause damage? Hmm, perhaps you have not seen with your own eyes a single shaman bring down great creatures.. Dots don't stack? You foolish hatchling, though not ALL dots stack, there are a fair amount that do. I will not bother addressing your unenlightened self further, but do know that if you try to discourage Iksar inventiveness again, you will be crushed like a babe mudcrab.
Usula Wurmbane
Empress of Fear
For your unenlightened ears, Nukker, we are the strongest single race there is. We do have the ability to resurrect, though why that is even necessary for a race as superior as our own is beyond my knowledge (ooc ~ Necros can resurrect, for a price).
Second point, since when are monks not considered prime damage dealers, and what human clan can compare to an iksar master? Our shaman cannot cause damage? Hmm, perhaps you have not seen with your own eyes a single shaman bring down great creatures.. Dots don't stack? You foolish hatchling, though not ALL dots stack, there are a fair amount that do. I will not bother addressing your unenlightened self further, but do know that if you try to discourage Iksar inventiveness again, you will be crushed like a babe mudcrab.
Usula Wurmbane
Empress of Fear
Oh, and for an appropriate guild name, consider the following:
Servants of New Sebilis
Brethren of the Scale
Emerald Scale
Clan Greenmist (though I dislike shaman and shadow knights, they do not properly respect the Brood of Kotiz)
Brood of <insert name here>
there are many more options, but I would suggest something that not only reflects the Iksar character, but also takes advantage of our rich history.
Servants of New Sebilis
Brethren of the Scale
Emerald Scale
Clan Greenmist (though I dislike shaman and shadow knights, they do not properly respect the Brood of Kotiz)
Brood of <insert name here>
there are many more options, but I would suggest something that not only reflects the Iksar character, but also takes advantage of our rich history.
6 posts
i think your guild name should be nitrosharks
5 posts
I HAVE A 15 SHD IKS AND I PUT MY POINTS INTO AGI, STR, AND CHA. I JUST ADDED CHA FOR SOME EXTRA DOHE WHEN I GO SELL.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jul 20 2002 at 8:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok... buddy... putting Cha into a SK is the dumbest thing you can do... you need to put into STR because IKS have low base stats for fighting (though fair agi/dex)...
Scholar
45 posts
Charisma does not affect fear, stop spreading misinformation please, it hurts the people who listen to you.
It seems the Nukker doesn't realize the value of equipment. Put your stats wherever you want to put them, just have fun with it. If you wish to be a more attractive Iksar, more power to you.
It's a game. You own the computer. You paid for the software. You're paying for the EQ account and, usually, the Internet access as well. What the hell's the use of playing what someone else tells you that you should play? You play what you want, the way you want, towards whatever end you want. Anything else is playing the game for someone else, and there's precious little good sense in that.
By the way, it is interesting to see that the GNM ranks that high. If you compare the GNM to the DE, ERU, or HUM races, they actually have better stats. I cant believe that Im actually typing that, but that is what the numbers are.
In general, races are balanced by the xp penalty. That is how Verant made it desirable (that is, ignoring any personal preference, be it roleplaying, looks, etc) to play a DE, ERU, etc. All things being equal, a ERU or DE SK will almost always be a higher level than a OGR or TRL SK. It is not related to having a higher INT. I just love having fun with that because that has little to do with it, but people argue that like their life depended on it. News bulletin: that aint it. The great equalizer is the xp penalty.
What makes all this relevant is that a GNM SK levels faster than all the other races. That is not a mistype. So, if one was to ignore all personal preferences again, the question now becomes, why would you ever pick a ERU, DE or HUM SK over a GNM SK?
I am utterly amazed by that & I hope I am missing something, but at the moment, I am now wondering what Verant is thinking...
Lunatic
In general, races are balanced by the xp penalty. That is how Verant made it desirable (that is, ignoring any personal preference, be it roleplaying, looks, etc) to play a DE, ERU, etc. All things being equal, a ERU or DE SK will almost always be a higher level than a OGR or TRL SK. It is not related to having a higher INT. I just love having fun with that because that has little to do with it, but people argue that like their life depended on it. News bulletin: that aint it. The great equalizer is the xp penalty.
What makes all this relevant is that a GNM SK levels faster than all the other races. That is not a mistype. So, if one was to ignore all personal preferences again, the question now becomes, why would you ever pick a ERU, DE or HUM SK over a GNM SK?
I am utterly amazed by that & I hope I am missing something, but at the moment, I am now wondering what Verant is thinking...
Lunatic
Sorry, but your message is incorrect.
If you do not include INT in the "fighting" stats, IKS have the 3rd best "fighting" stats amongst all races. They trail only the OGR & TRL in that department. If you do include INT in the “fighting” stats, which I probably would (as shown below), they are ranked 4th.
If you ranked them, including INT in the "fighting" stats, here is the order, from highest to lowest.
1) OGR
2) TRL
3) GNM
4) IKS
5) DE
6) ERU
7) HUM
With the exception of OGR & TRL, I would put all bonus points into STA, as the remaining races have plenty of INT to not even worry about it. In regards to an OGR & TRL, there are 2 schools of thought. One says that if you are a hard-core gamer & plan on hitting 60 & getting optimal equipment, then still dump all points into STA, as the gear you get at later levels will take care of you (via INT, direct mana gear, etc.) If you are not or want a more balanced approach, then AGI/DEX/INT is where you might want to spend your points.
You are correct about one thing however, CHA (along with WIS) has no business getting allocated any points at inception.
Lunatic
If you do not include INT in the "fighting" stats, IKS have the 3rd best "fighting" stats amongst all races. They trail only the OGR & TRL in that department. If you do include INT in the “fighting” stats, which I probably would (as shown below), they are ranked 4th.
If you ranked them, including INT in the "fighting" stats, here is the order, from highest to lowest.
1) OGR
2) TRL
3) GNM
4) IKS
5) DE
6) ERU
7) HUM
With the exception of OGR & TRL, I would put all bonus points into STA, as the remaining races have plenty of INT to not even worry about it. In regards to an OGR & TRL, there are 2 schools of thought. One says that if you are a hard-core gamer & plan on hitting 60 & getting optimal equipment, then still dump all points into STA, as the gear you get at later levels will take care of you (via INT, direct mana gear, etc.) If you are not or want a more balanced approach, then AGI/DEX/INT is where you might want to spend your points.
You are correct about one thing however, CHA (along with WIS) has no business getting allocated any points at inception.
Lunatic
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