Wizard Epic: Staff of the Four  

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Information:
Level:50
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Epic
  • Faction
Faction Required:
Truespirit
Factions Raised:
Factions Lowered:
Quest Items:
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Era:Ruins of Kunark
Recommended:
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
Appropriate Races:
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Entered: Mon May 13 15:41:35 2002
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023


NOTE: A patch on March 25, 2015, added a work-around to obtain items from Cazic Thule, Dread, Fright, and Terror:

- In the Plane of Fear, a harbinger of Fear can help adventurers get their epic 1.0 pieces that would normally drop from Cazic-Thule or the golems. These pieces cannot be multi-quested or traded. In addition, a harbinger of Fear can advance the Whistling Fists quest in the same way as Cazic-Thule. A harbinger of Fear will not be available on progression servers until they have opened up the TDS expansion? (need confirmation on this)

Furthermore, a patch on April 22, 2015, added a work-around to obtain bottleneck items from Phinigel Autropos (Kedge Keep), Gorenaire (Dreadlands), and Talendor (Skyfire Mountains). (not on progression servers). The workaround for this quest is to swim into Phini's area in Kedge and kill the "Swirlspine Guardians" until a mermaid titled "a harbinger of the seas" spawns - talk to her and she will spawn a version of Phinigel for you that will only drop your needed 1.0 piece.



Quick Checklist / Guide

[ ] Getting the Faction (Multiple Steps require certain amounts of Truespirit faction to function)
    [ ] Buy the potion called Ro's Breath from Dargon in Halas, outside the shaman guild (900-1100pp).
    [ ] Find Camin at the Vasty Deep Inn in Erudin. Hail him, Hand him 1000pp.
    [ ] Give Camin the Ro's Breath potion. Receive back a similar potion with no charges.
    [ ] Give Dargon in Halas the no-charge version of the Ro's Breath. Arantir Spawns.
    [ ] Hail Arantir, receive Arantir's Ring. *recommend Bind Affinity here for fast return*
    [ ] Give Chalice, found in the bottom of the Felwithe Paladin Guild, Arantir's Ring. Receive a similar ring back.
    [ ] Return to Arantir/Dargon in Halas. Give either of them the new Arantir's Ring. *recommend gating back*
    [ ] A new version of Arantir should spawn. Ask him "what about the gnome". Receive: Note from Arantir
    [ ] Find Kandin Firepot in Butcherblock Mountains near the shoreline south of the docks, next to south houses. Give him the Note from Arantir.

[ ] Get the Staff of Gabstik & Note to Arantir
    [ ] Ask Kandin Fireport, "What oil". Receive: Golem Sprocket
    [ ] Bring a small raidforce and Find "a broken golem" inside Plane of Fear near the clocktower. (Multiday respawn). Give the broken golem the
        Sprocket and kill the enraged golem that will spawn, loot Green Oil.
    [ ] Give Kandin Firepot the Green Oil. Receive: Staff of Gabstik and Note to Arantir.

[ ] Kill Phinigel Autropos in Kedge Keep. Loot the Blue Crystal Staff.
[ ] Kill Venril Sathir in Karnors's Castle, loot Gnarled Staff.

[ ] Get the Staff of the Four (EPIC)
    [ ] Give Dargon in Halas the "Note to Arantir" to spawn Arantir, then hail him. Give him the Blue Crystal Staff, Gnarled Staff, and Staff of Gabstik.
        Receive Magically Sealed Bag.
    [ ] Give the Magically Sealed Bag to Solomen in the Temple of Solusek Ro, receive the Staff of the Four




Full Walkthrough

Head to the the Temple of Solusek Ro and talk to a human wizard named Solomen. He is located on the left side of the temple between the two undead knights (one room from Lord Searfire at +425, +80, +29).
You say, 'Hail, Solomen'

Solomen says 'Ah, I see you have found my study. This is where I study and scribe the history of magic in Norrath.'

You say, 'What history?'

Solomen says 'I have worked to chronicle everything from the beginnings of magic to what we consider the modern day of magic. Solusek Ro has been very generous to those who wield magic in Norrath. But throughout history there is one thing I have noticed - too much power corrupts the soul. I have seen and documented that the strongest wizards and those closest to Solusek Ro become corrupted by their power.'

You say, 'What Wizards?'

Solomen says 'Unfortunately, I don't have time to speak of such things right now. But I could use your help since you are here. I have here an envelope that I need delivered to one Camin Rah. You can find Camin in the wizard tower in the city of Erudin. He is a sage like myself whose knowledge rivals my own. Do you [agree] to undertake my task?'

You say, 'I agree.'

Solomen says 'Here you are, then. Good luck on your journey.'

  • You receive a Note to Camin.

  • The note identifies as "I've found what we've been searching for!")

    You must hand this note to Camin, the next NPC involved in the epic. It reads:

    "Hello, old friend, I have made an updated list and locations of the items required for my research. Dragon bones- Plane of Fear Jet Black egg- Unknown Mistletoe powder- Old Sebilis Rune of Lost Thought- Unknown Contact me when you find them Solomen"



    Now head to the City of Erudin and find Camin. He can be found inside the Vasty Deep Inn on the 2nd floor. To find him, simply open the front door and go up the stairs to your right. Go down the hall and open the first door on your left. Camin will be behind the door at -1166, -11, 84. He is on Truespirit faction (similar to Beta Neutral - no faction for killing him and starts non-KOS to all).

  • Hand him the note that Solomen gave to you to get this response:

  • Camin says 'So you have met Solomen, eh? He is a man with a wealth of knowledge. It is good to hear he is well.'

    You say, 'Hail, Camin'

    Camin says 'Go away! I have no time for you!'

    You say, 'What are you searching for?'

    Camin says 'Ah! A smart one, I see! If you really wish to know about such a thing, you will have to help me finance my studies. The knowledge I have acquired and researched did not come cheaply.'

    You will need to give Camin 1000pp at this point.
    Camin says 'Good, good, you show a willingness to learn of this with your offer. What I can tell you is that Solusek Ro had four followers who had shown exceptional aptitude in the arts of wizardry. Solusek Ro himself tutored them. He considered them to be like his own children. I know of one who still exists. He goes by the name of Arantir Karondor. He used to specialize in the storing of magic into physical objects. Arantir has been hiding for many, many years and will most assuredly be going by another name, so keep your eyes open. Anyway, be off, I need to continue my research. Return to me if you ever find Arantir Karondor.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.
    You gain experience!



    Now you must head to Halas. Once there, head toward the shaman guild and find a vendor named Dargon (location 350, 357) that sells a potion called Ro's Breath (identifies as "Powerful magic radiates from this object."). Buy this potion for around 1000pp and make your way back to Erudin.

  • Hand Ro's Breath over to Camin and get this response:


  • Camin says 'Very interesting... I've seen this work before. Yes, yes! It's the work of Arantir Karondor! Give this back to the person you got it from. Maybe he will have a clue to Arantir's location.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.
    You gain experience!

  • Camin gives you back the potion.


  • It now identifies as "I know who you are."). The only difference is that it no longer has a charge of Shield of Lava. You must now take this potion back to Dargon in Halas. Once it's handed in, she will turn into Arantir Karondor and reply with:
    Dargon says 'So, I've been discovered! You must know Camin - he is one of the only people who could have recognized my work. I have worked very hard to mask my presence here.'

    You say, 'Hail, Arantir Karondor'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Before I tell you anything, I require you to help me. Seek a woman named Challice. Give her this ring and then return to me.'

  • You receive Arantir's Ring (identifies as "My love has no bounds").




  • You now need to seek Challice out inside the Felwithe Paladin guild at location -13, -263.

  • Give her the ring.

  • Challice says 'Oh yes? Arantir? What a fool he was! The man gave me everything, but for all his intelligence, he could never understand why I was truly with him. It was for his power; he could do anything. But when he mysteriously lost it, he became just another toy. I never loved him. Return this ring to him. He will understand that I have no desire to see him again.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.
    You gain experience!

  • You get a different version of the ring back (identifies as "I never could love a man like you.").



  • Now you must head back to Halas.

  • You can hand the ring to either version of Arantir. Handing it into Dargon will spawn the real version.

  • Arantir Karondor says 'Ah, but it pains my heart to see this. How I could love a woman like that is beyond me. And yet, I still do love her. It was on the day I was to ask her to marry me that I lost my powers. When I was about to cast my greatest spell to prove my love to her, my magic failed. She ran out on me that day. But enough of me, do you wish to hear my story?'

    You say, 'I wish to hear your story.'

    Arantir Karondor says 'I once was one of four true followers of Solusek Ro. So great were the four of us that Solusek Ro himself made us each a special item. We did not know what the others' items were, but we realized that was for our own safety. Each one of us, after receiving the item, began to plot against Solusek Ro. Each of us believed we had enough power to dominate Norrath. Solusek Ro saw this and at the time we needed our powers most, he stripped us of them. Now I know two of the other wizards by name. One was called Sylen Tyrn, the other's name was Demunir Scry. The last wizard was a gnome, but I can't think of his name.'

    You say, 'What about Sylen Tyrn?'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Sylen was a high elf wizard, and like many high elves, he believed himself to be better than others. Because of his birth, he thought he was more noble and more intelligent than anyone else. I heard how met his demise - while flying over a vast area of water, his powers were stripped from him in midflight. He fell and was captured by a rival wizard who specialized in magics of the water. Search for that wizard and you could find a trace of Sylen.'

    The "trace of Sylen" he speaks of can be found on Phinigel Autropos in Kedge Keep, just make sure you keep going on with the rest of the dialog below before you go there. A Blue Crystal Staff is what you need. It's one of Phinigel's rare drops so you're in for a "fun" camp. He can be taken out easily by two or three organized groups. He has a number of magic immune guardians surrounding him so you may want a monk to do the pulling.
    You say, 'What about Demunir Scry?'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Demunir was a human in a rush for power. He was extremely intelligent and resourceful but, unfortunately, was more interested in destructive magic. Hearing of an ancient land, he immediately traveled to it, believing there to be powerful relics left undiscovered there. While exploring, he came upon a dwelling that housed a powerful warrior. Believing himself to be more powerful, he attempted to take this dwelling for himself. While in battle with this warrior, Solusek Ro stole his powers and left him helpless. It is said that Demunir's item is the warrior's most prized trophy.'

    After you go through the rest of the below dialog and get the note, you're in for another not-so-enjoyable camp. The item you need now is the Gnarled Staff which can be found on Venril Sathir in Karnor's Castle (/loc?). It's his uncommon drop.

    Although only 55th level, Venril will take three or four groups to put down. He procs a 1500 point lifetap so your raid will need to manage aggro very carefully.
    You say, 'Who is the gnome?'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Ah, the gnome I know very little about. I know he was small and crafty, and that he had a brother. His brother's craft was that of making fireworks, and he was the unfortunate victim of one of his own experiments. His firework exploded, leaving his mind diminished in capacity, even for a gnome. I remember others calling him 'Old Stewpot' in jest. I do not know if this is his birth name, but it may help you to locate him. I hear he also stays close to water because of the explosion. You never know when another gnomish invention will go awry. Give him this letter to help motivate him to remember.'

  • You receive a Note from Arantir (identifies as "What is lost must be found").


  • It reads:

    "Greetings Sir Gnome, I hope this letter reaches you in good health."



    The gnome Arantir is referring to is Kandin Firepot. He has a 2.5-3 day respawn timer and is found at about -1490, 2845 in Butcherblock Mountains (in a gnome vendor camp along the coastline far south of the dock area). When you give Kandin the Note from Arantir he will say:

    Kandin Firepot says 'Brother! I have one of those. He's great, but he's dead. His name was Gabstik and he was a really powerful wizard. I still have one of his greatest possessions! You look like you could use it. I've added another item to my shopping list. I require a dry brittle skin that I can mold or a rare oil found in the planes that I must soak the fuse in. Get me one of these things and I'll trade it for my brother's stick.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.

    You say, 'Hail, Kandin Firepot'
    Kandin Firepot says 'Hello, there! Don't have time to talk. I'm workin', workin', workin'! Careful! Don't slip in the oil!

    You say, 'What oil?'

    Kandin Firepot says 'Ah the oil! I recently sent a specially crafted golem to explore through a huge portal to another plane. Its instructions were to collect special oil that I suspect existed in the plane. What I think is the golem broke down. This looks like a good task for one like you. Go see what's wrong with the golem. Here are spare gears of mine in case it's broken. Be careful though, if you put it in wrong it could explode, or worse!'

  • You receive a Golem Sprocket.




  • Head to the Plane of Fear with a raid intact. Hand the sprocket to a broken golem. You now have a 65th level Enraged Golem to deal with. This will be a LONG fight, as he has well over 150k hps.
    An enraged golem says 'Error! Malfunction! Destroy!
    An enraged golem says 'Wizards like you always bring out the worst in me.'

  • Once he is dead, loot Green Oil.




  • Head back to Butcherblock and hand in the Green Oil to Kandin in Butcherblock.

  • Kandin Firepot says 'Oh wow! You found the oil! Where is the golem? You didn't hurt him did you? I am very fond of him. Anyways, here is your reward a note and staff to give to that guy you were asking me about.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 30.
    You gain experience!

  • You receive a Staff of Gabstik and a Note to Arantir (identifies as "Give him a fish!"), which reads:


  • "The fish thank you for the people you sent me! Oh also if you ever come across my lantern please let me know."



  • Now take the note from Kandin and make sure you have the Blue Crystal Staff and the Gnarled Staff and the Staff of Gabstik on you. Give the note to Dargon in Halas. Arantir will once again appear in her place.

  • You say, 'Hail, Arantir Karondor'
    Arantir Karondor says 'Ah yes, you again. Do you have the items? Give me the three you possess and I'll combine them with my own.

  • At this point, hand Arantir the Blue Crystal Staff, the Gnarled Staff, and the Staff of Gabstik.

  • Arantir Karondor says 'Here, this pack contains all of our items. You will never be able to open it again, so you must deliver the pack, intact, to Solomen. He will then reward you. Now that I have helped you, leave me in peace.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 30.
    You gain experience!

  • You receive a Magically Sealed Bag (identifies as "Godlike magic radiates from this bag").




  • Now you must go back to Solomen in Temple of Solusek Ro and hand him the bag.

  • Solomen says 'You actually did it! I never would have thought that anyone could have truly followed this path. This is a tribute to your intelligence and patience. Here, take this staff and know that you have made Solusek Ro and all the wizards of the world proud this day.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by -100.

    The final faction hit is in fact negative.

  • You receive The Staff of the Four.
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    VS
    # Aug 04 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
    What is the loc for VS?
    Not MQable
    # Aug 02 2007 at 8:53 PM Rating: Good
    Tried to MQ the blue crystal (Phinny) staff last night. He would not take it. Considering the difficulty of getting into Kedge Keep and the rare drop rate, the 8 min rot time on these pieces is ridiculous. Ditto for cleric shards in Skyfire. Basically, you have to keep your wizard camped in KK for a week or more.
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    Fight smarter not harder.
    Not MQable
    # Aug 10 2007 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
    I just tried it with barbarian illusions on both wizards and my chanter. The chanter tried Edict of Command (AA charm) and Dyleth's Whipsers (spell) on Arantir. Neither of them worked. The AA just reset itself and the spell was resisted. Got "this NPC cannot be charmed" messages. I gated her away and tried turning in the BCS that the elder wizard had, standing behind him. He would not take it. My younger wizard just started crying in frustration. We've killed Phinny a dozen times this week without a staff drop. He's on a 12 hour cycle now.

    This just sucks. /pout.

    Leerah/Clearlee/Kitsune9 of Quellious.
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    Fight smarter not harder.
    Not MQable
    # Aug 03 2007 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
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    maybe didnt have enough faction for him to take it?
    try using rogue shroud and sneak + stand behind him and turn in and he should take it?
    Solomen LOCATION
    # Jul 16 2007 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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    Solomen is at 443.88, 84.80, 31.75
    MQ- Worked 06/27/07
    # Jun 27 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
    After reading numerous posts, camping the pieces and finishing this quest, I have some insight:

    For Phinny, I found the spawn time and killed four spawns before getting the staff -which was not visible in his hand- the shammie clickie was what was showing. He spawned up to 1.5 hours early and 1.25 hours late within in my time camping him. I based it off a 12 hour spawn time.

    I never saw Venril Sathir up. I did see, and left alone, Venril Sathir's Remains three times in 3 days. He must despawn. I saw him pop each time when I was waiting for VS. The first time, I assumed that when I went to raid some druid or ranger took him out; I was confused when he popped again the next day. (Spawning two hours earlier than the previous day). I suggest you kill VSR; I have no idea what the actual deal is with spawn, but if I ever have to camp VS again, I will kill VSR instead of leaving him up.

    I got fed-up and decided to try a MQ for the Gnarled Staff. At first, Arantir said "I have no need for this item...". However, the MQ'er was a ranger so I told him to hide and then sneak, standing behind Arantir. He accepted the MQ'd staff so I turned in my golem and Phinny staffs to recieve my Magically Sealed Bag.

    Edited, Jun 29th 2007 10:59am by berndan
    hmm
    # Jun 13 2007 at 12:47 AM Rating: Decent
    i tried the MQ system stated below and they wouldnt take the staff from MQ'er
    turn in note
    # Jun 11 2007 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
    I went to do the turn in last night on my wizzy alt, handed in the note, the guy spawned, but wouldn't take the staffs. to spawn him again to do the turn in, will i need to redo the whole epic and kill the BG in fear again for the note, or will spawning him off the potion turn in work to hand in the staffs instead?
    Note to Camin
    # Jun 09 2007 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
    I can confirm that Note to Camin is the first note handed to you from Solomen, just got it now (6/9/07).
    Note to Camin
    # Jun 09 2007 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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    Murmilo wrote:
    I can confirm that Note to Camin is the first note handed to you from Solomen, just got it now (6/9/07).


    Updated, thanks.
    Success!!
    # May 19 2007 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
    My 64 wiz has completed her epic.

    Phinny was very nice and gave me the BCS on the first drop. A 73 druid and myself, 64 wiz took him down.

    Venril Sathor also dropped the first time. Myself, 70 warrior 2-boxing with a 69 cleric and a 70 druid took him down fairly easily.

    Golem went down with the same 70 warrior/69 cleric 2-box, myself, a paladin who helped clear the way but left, and a 65 bard who found us for the final battle. Took quite some time, and Lure of Ro was the only consistent spell to land though Ice Meteor did hit fully once. We cleared the area first and the bard and I handled the couple stragglers that came through as the warrior tanked the golem.

    Golem and Venril were both done Sat. evening/night after a Wednesday patch.

    Kandin Firepot was also up.

    All turn ins successful and my con was apprehensive to Kandin, Arantir, and Solomen.
    Missing Faction Hits + items recieved
    # Apr 23 2007 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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    Missing Faction Hits + items recieved + Missing related items.
    Missing fac hits are underlined, missing items have a link to the item on lucy.



    upon handing the "Note from Arantir" to kandin:
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:32 2007] Kandin Firepot says 'Brother! I have one of those. He's great, but he's dead. His name was Gabstik and he was a really powerful wizard. I still have one of his greatest possessions! You look like you could use it. I've added another item to my shopping list. I require a dry brittle skin that I can mold or a rare oil found in the planes that I must soak the fuse in. Get me one of these things and I'll trade it for my brother's stick.'
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:32 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got better.
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:41 2007] You say, 'what oil?'
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:41 2007] Kandin Firepot says 'Ah the oil! I recently sent a specially crafted golem to explore through a huge portal to another plane. Its instructions were to collect special oil that I suspect existed in the plane. What I think is the golem broke down. This looks like a good task for one like you. Go see what's wrong with the golem. Here are spare gears of mine in case it's broken. Be careful though, if you put it in wrong it could explode, or worse!'

    He gives you the "Golem Sprocket" upon saying what oil

    upon giving kandin the oil
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:50 2007] Kandin Firepot says 'Oh wow! You found the oil! Where is the golem? You didn't hurt him did you? I am very fond of him. Anyways, here is your reward a note and staff to give to that guy you were asking me about.'
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:50 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got better.

    He gives you the "Staff of Gabstik" and the "Note to Arantir"

    Upon giving Arantir the items:
    [Mon Apr 23 07:03:41 2007] Arantir Karondor says 'Here, this pack contains all of our items. You will never be able to open it again, so you must deliver the pack, intact, to Solomen. He will then reward you. Now that I have helped you, leave me in peace.'
    [Mon Apr 23 07:03:41 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got better.

    Arantir gives you the "Magically Sealed Bag"

    And finally, upon giving solomen the Magically Sealed Bag:
    [Mon Apr 23 07:11:47 2007] Solomen says 'You actually did it! I never would have thought that anyone could have truly followed this path. This is a tribute to your intelligence and patience. Here, take this staff and know that you have made Solusek Ro and all the wizards of the world proud this day.'
    [Mon Apr 23 07:11:47 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got worse.

    You receive The Staff of the Four: Damage 20, Delay 30. +10 str, +5 dex, +10 sta, +25 int, +100 mana, +10 svfire, +10 svcold, +10 svmagic, +5 svpoison, +5 svdisease. Effect: Barrier of Force.

    note the final turn in results in a Negative faction hit.. thought that was strange. perhaps to try and stop people from MQing epics, once they done their own. But The faction is easy enough to build back up, or can just use rogue shroud+sneak
    Missing Faction Hits + items recieved
    # Apr 23 2007 at 8:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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    DukeLatan wrote:
    Missing Faction Hits + items recieved + Missing related items.
    Missing fac hits are underlined, missing items have a link to the item on lucy.



    upon handing the "Note from Arantir" to kandin:
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:32 2007] Kandin Firepot says 'Brother! I have one of those. He's great, but he's dead. His name was Gabstik and he was a really powerful wizard. I still have one of his greatest possessions! You look like you could use it. I've added another item to my shopping list. I require a dry brittle skin that I can mold or a rare oil found in the planes that I must soak the fuse in. Get me one of these things and I'll trade it for my brother's stick.'
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:32 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got better.
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:41 2007] You say, 'what oil?'
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:41 2007] Kandin Firepot says 'Ah the oil! I recently sent a specially crafted golem to explore through a huge portal to another plane. Its instructions were to collect special oil that I suspect existed in the plane. What I think is the golem broke down. This looks like a good task for one like you. Go see what's wrong with the golem. Here are spare gears of mine in case it's broken. Be careful though, if you put it in wrong it could explode, or worse!'

    He gives you the "Golem Sprocket" upon saying what oil

    upon giving kandin the oil
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:50 2007] Kandin Firepot says 'Oh wow! You found the oil! Where is the golem? You didn't hurt him did you? I am very fond of him. Anyways, here is your reward a note and staff to give to that guy you were asking me about.'
    [Mon Apr 23 06:53:50 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got better.

    He gives you the "Staff of Gabstik" and the "Note to Arantir"

    Upon giving Arantir the items:
    [Mon Apr 23 07:03:41 2007] Arantir Karondor says 'Here, this pack contains all of our items. You will never be able to open it again, so you must deliver the pack, intact, to Solomen. He will then reward you. Now that I have helped you, leave me in peace.'
    [Mon Apr 23 07:03:41 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got better.

    Arantir gives you the "Magically Sealed Bag"

    And finally, upon giving solomen the Magically Sealed Bag:
    [Mon Apr 23 07:11:47 2007] Solomen says 'You actually did it! I never would have thought that anyone could have truly followed this path. This is a tribute to your intelligence and patience. Here, take this staff and know that you have made Solusek Ro and all the wizards of the world proud this day.'
    [Mon Apr 23 07:11:47 2007] Your faction standing with Truespirit got worse.

    You receive The Staff of the Four: Damage 20, Delay 30. +10 str, +5 dex, +10 sta, +25 int, +100 mana, +10 svfire, +10 svcold, +10 svmagic, +5 svpoison, +5 svdisease. Effect: Barrier of Force.

    note the final turn in results in a Negative faction hit.. thought that was strange. perhaps to try and stop people from MQing epics, once they done their own. But The faction is easy enough to build back up, or can just use rogue shroud+sneak


    All updated, thanks!
    lookin for some insight on doin turn ins
    # Mar 05 2007 at 2:33 AM Rating: Decent
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    My wiz is a dark elf and i noticed you have to do turn ins at a few of the good cities like erudin. Does anyone know any ways to get around this little fact or perhaps will illusion potions work since my main is a shaman?
    lookin for some insight on doin turn ins
    # Mar 05 2007 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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    trying using rogue shroud and the sneak skill. Stand behind and NPC with Sneak on, and your faction is changed to indifferent.
    Trouble-shooting Quest MQ
    # Feb 06 2007 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
    Ok, here's a trouble-shooter. I originally tried to do this as a multi-quest, but I could not get Arantir to accept the MQ staff turn-ins from my alt. After petitioning to get the Note to Arantir back from a GM (the potion-spawned Arantir is not the same one who spawns after giving him the note), here is what I made sure to do to insure a successful turn-in:

    1) Work quickly because Arantir has a fast despawn time (seemed like less than 5 minutes to me).

    2) Be sure to HAIL Arantir with the character who spawned him BEFORE trying the MQ turn-in. You need to get him to begin the turn-in dialogue.

    3) Be sure that another character is available to cast invisibility on your alt for the turn-in. (I don't know if this is absolutely necessary, but I didn't want to take any chances the second time around.)

    4) Open MQ trade window with your alt but do NOT give the items yet.

    5) Have someone invis. your alt after trade window is open. (Again, I don't know for a fact that this is necessary, but I wasn't taking any chances.)

    6) Do the turn in.

    7) Finish Quest turn-in with your wizzie.

    This method worked for me. After an aggravating first try, I now have my Staff of the Four. Woot!
    Trouble-shooting Quest MQ
    # Jan 26 2008 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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    I can confirm this worked for me today. I had the gnarled staff on my main (Beast) Everything worked as stated above in original post. And I started the quest at level 46 and did the fianl turn in at level 48, got my epic and Title- Catalyst. I know it has been said certain epics can't be completed until level 50.....
    Trouble-shooting Quest MQ
    # May 13 2007 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
    Thanks for posting this. My daughter's bard was turning in Blue Crystal Staff for me and he wouldn't take it. I got her to open trade window then invised her and it worked like a charm!

    My number 1 alt now has his 1.0!
    Trouble-shooting Quest MQ
    # Apr 23 2007 at 6:04 AM Rating: Decent
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    he wouldnt take the pieces from my bard friend.. so i said hail him

    he hailed, arantir gave him the "blithering fool" response

    so bard did faction song and turned the two parts in, he took em

    then i turned in my part and got my sealed bag
    lvl /MQ
    # Dec 18 2006 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
    Just finished wizard epic. MQ is working, had 2 chars ( with sneak ) who had phinny and VS staff and wizard was lvl 48 ( did first steps at 46 though).
    Camin faction
    # Nov 13 2006 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
    I was stumped at the part where Camin says "Go away. I have no need for you!" for almost a month. You do not need to build faction at this point. There is no [word] to repeat back to him. Instead say: "what are you searching for." That did the trick for me.
    kandin firepot is at...
    # Nov 09 2006 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
    firepot is at -1491,+2843
    Epic Faction Problems. Solution invisiblility
    # Aug 13 2006 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
    OK To Clear Up some missunderstanding. Wiz Epic Faction Problems is. That u cant do turn in right.. Well maybe u would think someone is Smart Enough to think of invis ... well i DID mq today. and it did work.. all i had to do is invis me mage and mq staff to me on Arantir Karondor..

    Well hope this clears up some stuff

    56 wizzy ( Fotter )
    Druzzil Ro
    Camin & Ro's Breath
    # Aug 01 2006 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
    He will not take it, no matter what I do. He just says that he doesn't need that, and I can have it back. Help please! Do you have to be level 46?

    Edited, Aug 1st 2006 at 6:26pm EDT by Kordana
    Camin & Ro's Breath
    # Nov 11 2006 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
    I'm fairly certain (not 100%) that you need to be 51.
    Camin & Ro's Breath
    # Apr 19 2007 at 9:42 AM Rating: Default
    just got epic at 46 on my wizzy alt, that is the minimum lvl, you just cannot use clicky effect till 50.
    MQ's Broke
    # Jul 17 2006 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
    Wizard Epic is broken i attempted to MQ the last 2 staffs needed for my epic &
    he returned the items to the persons that had them. You can no longer MQ wizard epic you must turn in all the items yourself. I don't believe this is a faction issue cause everyones faction was good that tried to hand in there staffs before i handed in mine. One of the persons was a wizard & was a high elf who done the 1.0 already. They had the phinny staff =/. NPC gave it back to him said i had no use for this. There for the MQ failed.

    the gnome is still there, but he comes and goes just keep checking on him.

    Edited, Jul 17th 2006 at 5:43pm EDT by Zlandar
    Kandin Firepot
    # Jun 29 2006 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
    Hey there, have been looking for Kandin firepot for awhile now.......he been moved from his usual place in BB or ? )

    Socratez.
    All About Phinny and how to Get to him!
    # Apr 14 2006 at 1:20 AM Rating: Decent
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    At level 70 Phinny's guards con green and light blue. He wanders around the pit of the 'star' room.

    As an SK I never got below 80%, hardly bothering to cast lifetaps. My gear pretty plainly Sucks, and I was completely unbuffed, as he dispells like a hundred times per fight. It isn't a spell --- he procs it, so it's unavoidable. He is light blue at that level, and pretty sad. No harder than a light blue in OoW+, and prolly easier.

    Strat to kill him: If 70, a straight nuke or bow or something and you got him pulled, usually single. Something that does no damage is prefered, so you don't risk being summoned into the middle of his friends.

    His guards are clerics at least in part, so you're going to want to pull him near the ceiling so that they don't cheal him. He wanders around in the pit, so he's not a static spawn (ie- doesn't just sit). That should make it significantly easier to single him if that level. Just wait until he's near one of the green-con seahorsies, and then tag him. If all are light blue+, wait for him to get in the middle and then pull him. If you get an add you're gonna wanna kill it first, or split it with FD if it's an option. They cheal so much though, you may wanna consider back-up plans before you start, ie- binding outside and having gate up.

    If less than 70 (guards con blue) I imagine normal pulling rules apply.

    *edited* ---> I, PERSONALLY, have never seen one of his guards see invis. But apparently, it happens occasionally. You're not gonna wanna go down there anyway in most cases so it kinda doesn't matter regardless though.

    How to GET THERE ----- It took me over two hours to find him, cuz of one secret door. Here are the directions.

    From the ENTRANCE, go out into the first room. Go Down, facing South. Click on the grate. Go into the room, and go down again, still facing south. Do the same thing in the next room you hit. When you get to the bottom (you will have gone down a tunnel twice), turn EAST and head through the door. There's a shark in the next room --- head straight past the shark. Enter the grate on the bottom at the end of the tunnel. You can't miss it; all tunnels lead to the same place.

    Go up the looong tunnel and you'll see 4 grates on all sides. Doesn't matter which you go through; All open, and all are in the same room. There's only one door in the room --- It has two grates, meaning you have to click on one grate, and when it opens, click on another to open the second. They are on top of one another.

    SECRET TUNNEL to Phinny: Past the two grates, you'll end up in a room with two "blocks" in it. There are a lot of fish in there. The blocks look like plantholders; They're about nine feet tall, and have little plants on the top. It looks like they're part of the walls but if you click on the one to the right of the door you're entering the room from, it will move, revealing a secret tunnel. Go through the tunnel to Phinny's room. It's safe to uninvis/buff/etc anywhere on top of the little star cut-out in the floor, but I wouldn't get any closer than I have to.

    Note that my directions may not be perfect; I typed it from memory. It's pretty straightforward though, I think. Good luck!

    Edited, Sun Apr 23 05:17:55 2006
    plz update quest
    # Feb 14 2006 at 2:53 AM Rating: Decent
    i ahve just done first two parts of quest as my wizzy . both parts where soloed by freinds of mine not groups at all .kedge was soled by a mage and VS was soloed by a ranger so easy fights now days .
    Can't turn in to Camin
    # Jan 06 2006 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
    I also have tried several times to turn in the Ro's Breath to Camin but he just hands it back with no changes. Is this epic broken?
    RE: Can't turn in to Camin
    # Jan 25 2006 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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    handing it back with no charges is what he is supposed to do. once you have the de-charged potion, give it back to dargon to spawn arantir carandor.
    my head hurts
    # Dec 30 2005 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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    im stumped at the pont that you turn in the potion of ro's breath to camin. ive tried everything, includibng the invis trick, and faction buffs. tried charming him, even (he ate the potion on that one) ive given him cash, ive done everything exactly, and carefully as it is listyed here. any ideas?
    Faction
    # Oct 14 2005 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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    I am close to finishing my epic and know there is a faction issue...with Truespirit? If so we are screwed b/c I've tried and tried to do turn in to the wandering spirit in WK to raise Truespirit faction (at apprehensive atm)..did this with my chanter before last patch and worked fine...now he won't take the items, even had a chanter there to cast collaboration...my faction didn't change but her's did and I had her try to do hand in...no luck. So is this it for wizard 1.0 epics? Unless you are a shaman/wiz...SOE why do you keep ******** us over? Would love any input please

    Also, I tried doing hand in while invised and each time invised dropped...another nerf?

    Edited, Fri Oct 14 16:37:32 2005
    RE: Faction
    # Oct 21 2005 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
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    You said you tried to do hand in while invised and each time invised dropped.

    This is how you do it. Perhaps you're doing it wrong.

    Group with said inviser, hand the item to the NPC, but DO NOT PRESS "GIVE". Once that trade window is open, have your friend invis you. Target the NPC, type "/con" to see your faction (indifferent, apprehensive and whatnot). If it is higher than apprehensive, then you can do the turn in. Hit the GIVE button. If the NPC is still apprehensive, then the mob can see invis and you're screwed.

    Doesn't Camin give you a good faction hit with Truespirit by turning in money? Or even turning in the note from Solomon?

    Last resort, you can skip Epic 1.0 (it really is almost useless, since BST crack doesn't stack with epic rune) and work the 1.5 sidequest. I'm a 70 WIZ and I know I for one never use the clickie rune anymore.

    Then again, if you're in PoTime, you can always wait to get the Wand of Impenetrable Force.

    If you're only 50 something, then ya, you're screwed. If you want to go to a major extreme, you can try killing the Broken Golem twice and doing the turn in twice. Get the gear, give to Broken Golem, spawn Enraged Golem. Kill it, loot the oil, hand it in to the gnome in BB, you get faction hit. A big one.

    I know that these quests were designed to do in order, and no designed for multiquesting. Though it works in some respects, it wasn't made for it.

    I went and bought a MQ for the FEAR staff. Because I never gave the oil back to the gnome in BB and got the faction hit, by the very end of the quest, I was apprehensive to Solomon. I handed him the bag to receive my epic, and he ate it. Petitioned, and I logged in one day and had my epic 1.0.

    Anyway, I hope all this helps. If it doesn't and you petition, the first question out of the GM's mouth will be "Did you do the quest in order?"

    I hope you can truely say YES to that answer.
    RE: Faction
    # Sep 19 2008 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
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    You gain experience for handing over the note to Camin, but no faction; that'll cost you.
    RE: Faction
    # Oct 15 2005 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
    You try killing Moltak there to change your faction at all?
    RE: Faction
    # Oct 15 2005 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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    Thanks for responding. Which zone in this Moltak in, tried finding on bestiary and no luck. Thanks for your time and helping with this.
    RE: Faction
    # Jan 19 2007 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
    Moltak in the Temple of Solusek Ro.
    RE: Faction
    # Jun 15 2006 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
    Well you can hand 1kpp to Camin until he turns indifferent...took me 11k to get enough faction to continuen epic...just dont kill a lesser spirit
    RE: Faction
    # Nov 03 2005 at 3:56 PM Rating: Default
    If you are doing wizard epic the invis trick will always work. I'll explain the exact way I did it though.

    I got through everything up to the gnome you get the gear from in Butcher Block. I got the gear from him, did the hand in to the broken golem myself and got the oil. Now after the raid, I had a friend with simple invis spell come along with me to the gnome. I opened the trade window with the NPC for the hand in, my friend cast invis on me, I conned him and he was indifferent, and I hit trade and it worked. I proceeded to Barb town and handed in the letter, I used invis here too but I don't think it mattered. Did the same trick with all staves and this worked as well. And finally back to temple of sol ro, and it again worked and I got my Staff of the Four.

    If you're having trouble with something like scowling faction with the highelf lady in Felwithe I think a simple harmony along with the invis stuff will do the trick. Hope that helps...

    Liveye (lvl 70 Wizard)
    Updated?
    # Oct 13 2005 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
    You know is there any chance to put a few asteriks or something beside the updated part of this quest? I keep seeing epic 1.0 quests on the updated list and there is no indication as to what has changed...

    Liveye (lvl 70 Wizard)
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