THis is one of the stupidest quest mechanics in the game.
Some of the Beza missions have tricky pulls but can be managed. This one is just idiotic.
Was in a group that was well overpowered for this. We had 85 Mage, 83 Necro, 81 SK, 81 Druid, TV merc healer and TV merc tank.
Everything was easy.
Finding 15 shocktroopers was annoying and took longer than it should have.
The first named was a piece of cake.
Everything was easy , just very slow and long. Room with 5 mobs in it and 1 sees invis means you cant run past but have to kill 5 more mobs that dont count as credit toward the quest. Repeat that sort of arrangement multiple times and this mission took a lot longer than reasonable. Aggro through the doors reminds me of the origina Plane of Hate. Again, meaning there's another dozen or so mobs you have to kill that dont work toward your quest goals.
The ending was horrible. We cleared our way up to Hartmut. He is in a room with 7 adds. He cannot be pacified. His assist radius is large. Pulling him out sucked but we got him solo a few times. When he ran he cleared aggro. Our aggro list dropped and we lost all aggro. However (here is the kicker!) mobs he ran past DID assist him, even though he isn't on aggro anymore.
So, imagine this....we fight him and he flees (which we were expecting). Aggro clears and we go back to medding, waiting for him to return. Sudenly our extended target window is FULL of mobs and we get trained. That happened a few times until we decided to clear everything from where he ran. That was a nother slowdown.
Then he ran back to his room and all the 7 adds joined the empty hatelist and trained us.
After ******** around with this for a couple hours we realized the ONLY way to do this is to clear the entire building (another couple dozen mobs to slow you down that don't help your quest).
KIlling light blues for 4 hours is not my idea aof a meaningful quest. Its a crappy waste of time.
This mission is the worst and I'll never set foot in beza again.
Beza #3: Sand in the Gears
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This group task is the third in a series of five and begins with Clockwork Warmarshal, who is located near the Ak'Anon Strike Force camp at the zone-in of Fortress Mechanotus.
At the end of "How Does Your Garden Grow": Clockwork Warmarshal says 'Destroying the garden has caused some confusion, so it did what we wanted. We are not sure why it was important, but it must have been. If you are interested, there is more you can do in gyrospire [beza].' You say, 'Beza?' Clockwork Warmarshal says 'For the next task we will want you to disable the attack forces of gyrospire beza. These attack forces are lead by a clockwork called Commander Shockmost, and a minotaur called Hartmut. We do not know much about Shockmost, but we have a bit more information about Hartmut. Harmut is a bit odd for a minotaur. He does not like to fight, despite the fact that he leads the living troops and the other living servants in the gyrospire. So he should be an easy kill. Are you ready to [remove] the leaders of the troops?' You say, 'We will remove them' You have been assigned the task 'Sand in the Gears'. Go to the Gyrospire Beza launch catapult 0/1 (Fortress Mechanotus) Kill 15 "Shock" type Steamworks 0/15 (Gyrospire Beza) Kill 10 of the gnome troops 0/10 (Gyrospire Beza) Kill 5 minotaurs that may have been sent as reinforcements 0/5 (Gyrospire Beza) Kill 1 Commander Shockmost 0/1 (Gyrospire Beza) Shockmost is in the repair room (first door on the right when coming up the first upstairs ramp past pillar room). Kill 1 Hartmut 0/1 (Gyrospire Beza) Hartmut spawns on the top floor (not the roof). He hits for a max ~3,500 and rampages. He's rootable and does not summon. He may have a very short "leash" in that if you pull him too far from his spawn point, he'll warp back and de-aggro at full health. Hartmut also de-aggro's and runs to another location in the tower. You may have to fight him multiple times (4?). He casts a 5k DD spell and a 1600 DoT spell (names of these spells?). Return to Clockwork Warmarshall to report your success 0/1 (Fortress Mechanotus) Reward: Faction with Ak'Anon Strike Force V Ancient Amber Faycite Quadsection LORE ITEM NO TRADE QUEST ITEM WT: 0.1 Size: TINY Class: ALL Race: ALL Once you have completed this task, you may request the next task in the series, 'End the Return'. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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We were able to kill Hartmut without clearing the entire tower. We pulled him to just outside his room with Harm Arrow, and each time he ran we evac'ed and ran back up. No adds and worked like a charm! You have to fight just outside his door to prevent him from warping back on the short leash he's got.
Edited, Apr 2nd 2009 11:08am by Lanearas
Edited, Apr 2nd 2009 11:08am by Lanearas
I was in a group grinding these mssions today. We would clear all the mobs outside of the tower, then drop and get a new instance. I was getting about 4% regular experience per clear at 82, which is very nice for roughly 30 minutes work.
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Not sure why these missions exist yet.. I am hoping you can do something with the quest gems you get after each one of these missions...
This one simply suks bad.. The reason is you literally have to clear the entire tower all the way up to and around where Hartmut is standing.. Which is the floor before going up to the roof... Hartmut has 8 mobs in the same tiny room as him which makes splitting very difficult... You can use many techniques but its a pita.. We camped in the room next to Hartmut and my monk mezzed a few mobs in place in his room while running Hartmut down the tower.. Mage CoTH'd monk back, then monk pulled the mobs he mezzed... Other tricks could work..
Hartmut is programmed to run away at bard speed about 4 times during the fight... Dont follow, you are not meant to.. Each time he comes back he nears full health and you have to start over (this includes slows or whatever because he rinses himself of all negative effects when he runs), however it is easier to knock down his hitpoints each time he comes back... He still hits as hard each time though and has that nasty DD / DOT combo... If I remember right the DD is around 5k and the DOT does 1600 a tic.. If you dont clear the rooms on the way up he pulls back mobs on you and its messy.. So take the time to clear them all out...
Shockmost is in the repair room, first door on the right when coming up the first upstairs ramp past pillar room... he is easy just bring him single..
Just a LONG mission for no reason... I really hope that the gems get you something or I am going to have a hard time understanding what the programmers think "FUN" is..??
Good luck..!
Edited, Mar 30th 2008 1:33am by Soulcifer
This one simply suks bad.. The reason is you literally have to clear the entire tower all the way up to and around where Hartmut is standing.. Which is the floor before going up to the roof... Hartmut has 8 mobs in the same tiny room as him which makes splitting very difficult... You can use many techniques but its a pita.. We camped in the room next to Hartmut and my monk mezzed a few mobs in place in his room while running Hartmut down the tower.. Mage CoTH'd monk back, then monk pulled the mobs he mezzed... Other tricks could work..
Hartmut is programmed to run away at bard speed about 4 times during the fight... Dont follow, you are not meant to.. Each time he comes back he nears full health and you have to start over (this includes slows or whatever because he rinses himself of all negative effects when he runs), however it is easier to knock down his hitpoints each time he comes back... He still hits as hard each time though and has that nasty DD / DOT combo... If I remember right the DD is around 5k and the DOT does 1600 a tic.. If you dont clear the rooms on the way up he pulls back mobs on you and its messy.. So take the time to clear them all out...
Shockmost is in the repair room, first door on the right when coming up the first upstairs ramp past pillar room... he is easy just bring him single..
Just a LONG mission for no reason... I really hope that the gems get you something or I am going to have a hard time understanding what the programmers think "FUN" is..??
Good luck..!
Edited, Mar 30th 2008 1:33am by Soulcifer
You say, 'beza'
Clockwork Warmarshal says 'For the next task we will want you to disable the attack forces of gyrospire beza. These attack forces are lead by a clockwork called Commander Shockmost, and a minotaur called Hartmut. We do not know much about Shockmost, but we have a bit more information about Hartmut. Harmut is a bit odd for a minotaur. He does not like to fight, despite the fact that he leads the living troops and the other living servants in the gyrospire. So he should be an easy kill. Are you ready to [remove] the leaders of the troops?'
Clockwork Warmarshal says 'For the next task we will want you to disable the attack forces of gyrospire beza. These attack forces are lead by a clockwork called Commander Shockmost, and a minotaur called Hartmut. We do not know much about Shockmost, but we have a bit more information about Hartmut. Harmut is a bit odd for a minotaur. He does not like to fight, despite the fact that he leads the living troops and the other living servants in the gyrospire. So he should be an easy kill. Are you ready to [remove] the leaders of the troops?'
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Hartmut is rootable and doesn't summon, but he breaks root and snare when it's time for him to run off. He is untouchable during the run-away portion of his script. He runs off three times. (Maybe succor or FD in between each run-off?) After that he can be root-rotted or tanked until dead.
Edited, Sep 13th 2008 4:15pm by nytmare
Edited, Sep 13th 2008 4:15pm by nytmare
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